Is One Piece the Most Political Anime Ever Made??

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@myhlanoelsalsa8690
@myhlanoelsalsa8690 Жыл бұрын
Political? The anime which climatic point of one of its main arc is to burn down the flag of a totalitarian global government? The anime where all of the main characters are criminals? The anime that has at least 3 whole sagas dedicated to explore the race theory of a fantasy world? I think Hasan is just being delusional or something
@myhlanoelsalsa8690
@myhlanoelsalsa8690 Жыл бұрын
Ok, let's be real. OP isn't intrinsically political in the context of the real world because of the lack of an analogy to a contemporary social issue, but it reaaaally uses the main themes and concepts of real life politics to its worldbuilding and states a clear ideology
@CrossriderBankai23
@CrossriderBankai23 Жыл бұрын
Dumb take
@dydx_
@dydx_ Жыл бұрын
@@myhlanoelsalsa8690 (1) The exploration of racism within fishmen island contemporary for the US. The consequences of being disadvantaged and exploited for generations and the manifestations of such exploitation throughout time is at the heart of domestic US politics. (2) The Void Century is contemporary for Japan on domestic and geopolitical layer. The censoring of history by denying its existence is alluding to horrific war crimes committed by the Japanese during World War Two, especially against Koreans. Those crimes still soil the blood between the nations because of japanese refusal to take accountability, the population within Japan isn't being taught about these events or Imperial Japan. Recently relations started to improve with Japan having initiated some deal which requires measures about acknowledging those war crimes. (3) The Wano arc features heavy themes of industrialization and imperialism. A closed off foreign nation(Wano) is militarized by alien power(Kaido) where the native population gets deprived of their natural resources(Famine) which are rerouted to arrive at the abusers in opulence(Colonialism) while the native population starves and is forced into obeying strict laws and being compensated only enough to barely stay alive while living in slums, or end up in prison as slaves or guinea pigs if speaking out against the occupying forces(Industrialization), all while this invader plans to completely overtake the conquered soil for generations even after leaving (Yamato as Shogun) for the sake of buying mass produced weapons(Smile Devil fruit) by a 3rd party operating on foreign soils on the basis of capitalist principles (Caesar's Black Market) so they(Kaido) can wage and fuel further wars on the world (Investing in foreign Militia in hopes of gaining access to massive capital should Civil War X in Africa/Middle East/Central Asia turn out victorious). Highlighting for anyone who didn't know yet.
@dydx_
@dydx_ Жыл бұрын
@@concentratedH2O Shut up with that arrogant tone. If you need to validate your self esteem, go play Call of Duty. Children who only reek a chance to make fun of American centric views bring no value to any conversation as you clearly have no interest beyond being a condescending turf. Your mother must have been a horrible mother if she failed you like this. Repent and reflect.
@briandorough498
@briandorough498 Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah it totally has heavy political undertones, hasan is totally right. That said. I strongly dislike hasan 😂
@profishonal8912
@profishonal8912 Жыл бұрын
Oda intentionally drew One Piece goofy so he could handle darker topics, his regular art style is very realistic
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo 7 ай бұрын
Come again? He has a "regular" art style?
@profishonal8912
@profishonal8912 7 ай бұрын
@@LuznoLindo yeah, he has two art styles, his One Piece one, and his normal one.
@sure5783
@sure5783 7 ай бұрын
@@LuznoLindoyou can look up his paintings and other art, he can do lots of styles
@Nitro-wg6sr
@Nitro-wg6sr Жыл бұрын
It was weird how the boys were actually against the idea of One Piece being really political, when that’s essentially a major part of the series itself
@jollyd.joestar3937
@jollyd.joestar3937 Жыл бұрын
The main villain is a 1984 concept
@youraveragepasser-by7367
@youraveragepasser-by7367 Жыл бұрын
Probably because they're not politically informed
@mike.n.n.7723
@mike.n.n.7723 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people these days don't like it when a series they like is called "political" because the word has kind of a negative connotation these days
@nawab256
@nawab256 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I’m shocked they don’t think one piece is political when one piece is pretty much completely political in every way
@dydx_
@dydx_ Жыл бұрын
@@jollyd.joestar3937 Do you know what 1984 means?
@Karlthuluu
@Karlthuluu Жыл бұрын
One of the biggest political plots in One Piece is one that they didn't talk about in Drum Island, which literally is about privatized healthcare
@cryonicprawn1911
@cryonicprawn1911 Жыл бұрын
Hasan mentioned Drum Island later in the podcast, he brought it up with the hxh discussion on Leorio's motives as a character.
@Karlthuluu
@Karlthuluu Жыл бұрын
@@cryonicprawn1911 Oh ok, didnt watch the whole episode because it was quite painful
@guillermodobler6031
@guillermodobler6031 Жыл бұрын
bro, in drum island the goverment is the only one who has access to healthcare, that is communism, people cant afford healthcare because there is a govermental monopoly.
@topster888
@topster888 Жыл бұрын
Actually it was about government-controlled healthcare.
@belld.s5276
@belld.s5276 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. I think it gets overlooked because the example used in Drum was too cartoonishly villainous. I think, like most people of course, that Fishmen Island is the most politically centered arc. Otohime is one of my favorite characters and I'm sure plenty of fans wouldn't even remember what her role in the story is. But her impact on history WILL shape the future of the story and it already has in the Reverie. I also think Skypea has an underrated political plot.
@JonasFootball
@JonasFootball Жыл бұрын
I have no idea how the boys don't understand Hasan's point when one of the main villains is legit the "World Government".
@lancevance6346
@lancevance6346 Жыл бұрын
Alex Jones says the same shit. And the WG even works like his conspiracies. Truly there's politics for every person on the compass huh
@Necroskull388
@Necroskull388 Жыл бұрын
@@lancevance6346yeah but Alex Jones is mid so most people don’t care about that aspect
@lancevance6346
@lancevance6346 Жыл бұрын
@@Necroskull388 I'm just saying. You'd think OP messaging is leaning one way but ultimately it's upto the individual what they get out of it and how they infer it. Stuff like freedom, World government , secret new world order, shady alt elites controlling things from the background , secret biological experiments etc all perfectly lines up into an ideology. You might not like it, but what you think is advocating for your side could be inferred totally differently for different people.
@ToXic_-_
@ToXic_-_ Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say the “World Government” is the main villain, i would say it’s more the 5 Elder stars/Celestial dragon that control the world government is evil Since the revolutionary army whole goal is to take down the celestial dragon, not the world government which yes, are there evil people in the world government, yes, but it’s not the main source of evil
@alexfielding7191
@alexfielding7191 Жыл бұрын
@@Necroskull388 Hassan is basic mid.
@goncalo473
@goncalo473 Жыл бұрын
That "what aspect?" by joey makes realize that he needs to re-watch One Piece as an adult. All the arcs and the world building are about politics.
@UrekMazino1337
@UrekMazino1337 Жыл бұрын
his ass was not watching ☠
@orewaluffy7378
@orewaluffy7378 Жыл бұрын
Fr bruh I thought I wasn't hearing him right at first bc him, the anime man of all people don't see the politics in one piece😭💀
@EdwinJonathanBrown
@EdwinJonathanBrown Жыл бұрын
I kinda wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt because it is a common podcast/interview technique to play dumb and ask simple questions to prompt the interviewee into making exposition of their talking points. But then he got a little too “lmao waattt?” and realized he just didn’t get the undertones of one piece
@goncalo473
@goncalo473 Жыл бұрын
@@EdwinJonathanBrown it's completely normal. Joey watched OP a thousand years ago, for him is just an anime about, as they say, a rubber man. What shocks me the most is Connor, who's read it recently and has the same opinion as joey xD
@carl4243
@carl4243 Жыл бұрын
To a regular Japanese like joey, one piece is not political. Remember, politics in Japan is not dramaticized as to 70% of the world.
@theradionicrevival8068
@theradionicrevival8068 Жыл бұрын
it's not the fact that One piece is political It's not the fact that Connor didn't know one piece is political It's the fact that Joey and Garnt DIDN'T know one pice is political is what kills me 💀
@theradionicrevival8068
@theradionicrevival8068 Жыл бұрын
I guess the thing about politics is that people think it’s just the “dems and the libs” and all kinds of other boring Mumbojumbo But in reality everything is political because our political beliefs are just a reflection of our actual beliefs and where we came from as people. So we can’t really separate ourselves fully from that in the stuff we create However the reason I’d say One piece is more political than something like dragonball (which also definnetly has politics in it and stars a cast of terrorists) is how frequently Oda uses one piece to actively and consistently express his beliefs and experiences of the world that he lives in through the characters It’s why I’d label things like a lot of ghibli movies as well as stuff like one piece or naruto a tad more political than the Pokémon anime or something So as a big One piece fan, I DO find it a tad disheartening to hear that a lot of fans genuinely think this really is just the series of silly dumb pirates getting into a series of gaffs 😭😭😭😭 While true, sometimes creators due just put shit in without realizing it, I feel like using that as a retort to this kinda stuff comes off as an incredibly disengenous to one piece, oda and is just generally overall pretty anti-art. Oda specifically crafted one piece to be a pretty detail oriented series That mf wouldn’t have made 1060+ chapters if he didn’t have something to say You sorta BETTER have something to say if you want people to get on the ride with you bro 💀
@MrDyl666
@MrDyl666 Жыл бұрын
Media literacy is not great with a lot of anime fans
@Galvatronover
@Galvatronover Жыл бұрын
@@theradionicrevival8068 how are the z fighters terroists
@Tye0111
@Tye0111 Жыл бұрын
its overrated
@aeida6140
@aeida6140 Жыл бұрын
@@theradionicrevival8068 "durr everything is political." Not really.
@Doctor4077
@Doctor4077 Жыл бұрын
I get Connor not noticing the politics of One Piece because he's new to it and he also consumes media at a very surface level in general. But how do Joey and Garnt, long term One Piece fans WHO HAVE BUILT THEIR CAREERS OUT OF ANALYZING MANGA AND ANIME, miss all of the politics in One Piece?
@Withon
@Withon Жыл бұрын
Funny rubber man saves the day
@carlcedricguatlo8924
@carlcedricguatlo8924 Жыл бұрын
I think all of them knows the political concept because it is blatantly obvious throughout the show. Either they focuses only on the adventure vibe of the show or they avoid talking much about politics (I vividly remember an episode where they avoid politics talks.) presumably for fears of dividing their fanbases.
@Doctor4077
@Doctor4077 Жыл бұрын
@@carlcedricguatlo8924 okay but Garnt and Joey seemed genuinely surprised/confused when Hassan explains just how political One Piece is. Like based on their reactions they, at most, thought the most political message of One Piece was the obvious “racism bad”. Also I’m only talking about Joey and Garnt because it’s been made very clear that Connor’s media literacy is about as deep as a inflatable kiddie pool
@carlcedricguatlo8924
@carlcedricguatlo8924 Жыл бұрын
@@Doctor4077 Well I will give them the benefit of the doubt about that, but given that they made their careers on Anime Analysis gave me reason to doubt whether their reactions are true or something else.
@diegochaves6433
@diegochaves6433 Жыл бұрын
because their fans believe they are smarter than they really are. Just dumb people on the internet: content creators and fans alike
@slicerh248
@slicerh248 Жыл бұрын
I still don’t understand how you can watch/read One Piece and not think it’s political. You genuinely would just have to be turning the page and not reading.
@KlintKaras
@KlintKaras Жыл бұрын
People say one piece is not political because they are used to "political" stuff being super aggressive and accusatory. Meanwhile one piece if more tangentially political/ implying politics . And you can watch it and side with either group . You aren't explicitly told "this side bad!" Its heavily implied and I side with pirates but you can absolutely watch and feel the world government is "right with some bad apples"
@juanma9868
@juanma9868 Жыл бұрын
There are people that think that CoD, Metal Gear, GTA, FF7, Bioshock, and others games, are not political ... Let me make this clear, people unironically think that a game about eco terrorists attacking a megacorporation that control the country IT'S NOT POLITICAL ...
@Ineedgames
@Ineedgames Жыл бұрын
Usually when people say "It's not political", they usually mean "No Woman or Black People" Like that's fking Arlong Park.
@mattbaltimore7195
@mattbaltimore7195 Жыл бұрын
People can watch something and it takes it at face-value though..... That's why some people have the ability to watch nonsensical shows or movies without being intellectually engaged aka just turn your brain off and let visuals explode to your eyes.....
@gandalainsley6467
@gandalainsley6467 Жыл бұрын
@@Ineedgames When people say its political it has nothing to do with there being women and black people.(pretty sure that you have a problem when you jumped right on that) It has to do with being condescending, complaining ect. about certain group and how much of victims are the group that is complaining.
@jdg7327
@jdg7327 Жыл бұрын
The very words "World Government" screams political.
@paolocane7403
@paolocane7403 Жыл бұрын
Fujitora also stated about the corruption of warlords ,hehe
@lancevance6346
@lancevance6346 Жыл бұрын
Screams Alex Jones for sure. Hell even works like his conspiracies lol.
@Necroskull388
@Necroskull388 Жыл бұрын
@@lancevance6346Yeah, except Alex Jones disingenuously uses the rhetoric of populist, anti-government messaging to front pro-authority positions. It’s the reason Alex Jones is frequently described as “anti-government” but never “anti-state.”
@thienphucn1
@thienphucn1 11 ай бұрын
@@Necroskull388 Let's try raising tax on billionaires and corporations and see how quickly right wingers like Alex Jones switch up their "anti-government" rhetoric
@chaosqueen7644
@chaosqueen7644 Жыл бұрын
It's really strange when peoble are against the idea of one piece being political, when you only have to think about the plot of any arc for 3 seconds to realize It's ALL politics. It's baked in a fun adventure series, yes, but like... it's right in your face all the time
@Renagade01
@Renagade01 Жыл бұрын
maybe because its not woke enough ( Which is GOOD ok ITS GOOD that its not woke enough to slap the political view of Oda to its readers) that's why its not really working and One piece fans are more interested in Void Century, who is Imu, What da faq is the deal with Shanks even though he his popping off left and right nowadays and who the faq is Nika? like yeah too much world building that political view is really cant be seen
@T0NK0
@T0NK0 Жыл бұрын
@@Renagade01 It doesn't take a genius to look at fishmen racism for 2 seconds though
@Renagade01
@Renagade01 Жыл бұрын
@@T0NK0 then again what is in the fishman arc ?? Shirahosis big booba, sanji overflowing with nosebleed because of mermaids a perverted old man who wants to marry a literally middle schooler (i mean if you think about iT) mermaid that aside from her big size she is just literally a middle schooler or a child or something, the mermaid who predicts luffy will wreck havoc in fishmen island, again how da faq did shirahoshi came out of her mother?, WHY da faq is shirahoshi considered, no, is the weapon Neptune, and why does some perverted man know about it ?, how da faq somebody moved a poneglyph? and about racism you call that scene where a dragon noble shooting shirahoshi's mother racism ? well yes it is, because ever since in sabaody arc its already known that there is racism on fishmen island spearheaded by the dragon nobles, but then again lets go back to nami's arc literally the fishmen their not only ravaged but murder the people in their and good thing Nami still remained a virgin till this day, now you want me to relate that to the stereotype of black people in the real world? black people are notorious in their violence where they are known if you are in their hood you know someone is following whom and some kids or people is under such person to do their bad things, so should I feel sorry about the racism in one piece? hell nah bruh, why should I ? its not even in the real world in the first place and I have my own understanding around me in the real world on what I would believe in or not cause for me I just enjoy One Piece not thinking about how political it is but because it has a deep world building that maybe Oda might not finish till his lifetime. so what is the real problem here? america has became a big joke that their joke called wokness is now spreading like shit in different media that even One Piece could be seen in a bad light because of the term "how political it is" and and we won't have proper criticism about it because when a critic or a nobody said "look at how political this series//media is" people are now having wrong and negative thoughts about it
@justaway6901
@justaway6901 Жыл бұрын
The ideological conflict is literally Freedom vs Authority
@gandalainsley6467
@gandalainsley6467 Жыл бұрын
Because being Political is seen as bad because of western media. When people hear Political now its SJW complaining and that sort of thing which people don't like. Just like word diversity is ruined now.
@AlanJonesu
@AlanJonesu Жыл бұрын
Word! I caught up on One Piece, the manga, in about two months. I expected yelling, Ora ora's, volleys of punches everywhere, "ikozeiii!", among other things. What I didn't expect was corruption, slavery, racism, genocide, tyranny, civil wars, coup de etat, drugs trafficking, child abuse, classism, 😳 like damn.
@ReiseLukas
@ReiseLukas 11 ай бұрын
A good story will make its world feel real, and sometimes the best way to make a fictional world feel real is to give it problems our world has
@DonquixoteDoflamingoSama
@DonquixoteDoflamingoSama 9 ай бұрын
Is this possibly a-
@anime_predator_04
@anime_predator_04 3 ай бұрын
That's why i love one piece
@MSTGamingTV
@MSTGamingTV Жыл бұрын
As someone lives in Thailand, I saw a lot of One Piece manga panal used political meme and it felt like Oda researched Thai political history for that phrase in the panal.
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Жыл бұрын
May I ask which panel?
@MSTGamingTV
@MSTGamingTV Жыл бұрын
@@commonviewer2488 Mostly panels about Celestial Dragons, due to similarity of them and Thai monarchy.
@thienphucn1
@thienphucn1 11 ай бұрын
@@MSTGamingTV The Celestial Dragons represent the ruling classes around the world in general. Be it billionaires and corporations in North America and Western Europe, oligarchs in Russia, corrupt public officials in Asia and South America, theocracies in the Middle East, or warlords in Africa, ... they all use their power in the similar way. The Celestial Dragons use the World Goverment to exert control over the world, its people, and its resources the same way the ruiling class in the real world use their polices and military to oppress everyone into submission under their rule
@dooflegoof
@dooflegoof 8 ай бұрын
@@commonviewer2488 too many panels are being ref'd, it's hilarious that so many scenes in one piece are like a mirror image of what happened in Thailand, the celestial dragons, the buster call, the very consistent theme of authority trying to push down the new generation, and recently the panel of shanks shouting "are you that afraid of the new era" is coincidentally happened not long before Thai's latest election where the new and popular politician whom is loved by the younger people was technically won the election, but the authority just very obtrusively pulled all the tricks in the world to knock him out of his deserved position.
@Alexander-vo4gv
@Alexander-vo4gv Ай бұрын
all I know is that phratet ku mee has a luffy bar
@keno4770
@keno4770 Жыл бұрын
One piece is so overtly political that it’s actually a little sad that they were disagreeing. Cant tell if Connor Joey and Garnt have like bare none media literacy or what 💀
@youraveragepasser-by7367
@youraveragepasser-by7367 Жыл бұрын
Probably a mix of that and them not wanting to delve deeper into politics in fear of alienating their audience
@Renagade01
@Renagade01 Жыл бұрын
maybe that is also the reason isn't it ? the more you stay in the internet the more stupid your thoughts become like making the word "political" be relate any negative it is describing its subject to, like at the first place Japan and USA is really far apart in their literature well like these there are still one piece fans who dont consider one piece as left political media because its showing not really most of the political views in it like even in dressrossa Luffy and his crew wont really end up their if not because of their short term alliance with the hearts pirate if luffy did not accept the alliance and we won't know what da hell is happening in dressrossa.... just saying its more like one piece fans is more intrigued on different things that Oda has put in one piece world like void century, what is the deal with shanks, who is imu, what is really the entity called Nika all about, and literally what the hell is one piece and why are three world destroying weapons in a form a land, a mermaid, and so on
@pixelpause3693
@pixelpause3693 Жыл бұрын
They are just affraid that their community will flay them alive for aknowledging politics in anime.
@cryonicprawn1911
@cryonicprawn1911 Жыл бұрын
I would argue all three of them have pretty strong media literacy, it's just that the world of One Piece has so many aspects that you could hyper focus on. I mean, look at the One Piece youtubers. Most aren't talking about the story's implications of slavery, racism, or exploitation. They discuss the overarching story, the characters, the powers, the drama, because that's what you are typically more invested in.
@gandalainsley6467
@gandalainsley6467 Жыл бұрын
@@pixelpause3693 Its because when people hear political it automatically jumps to identity politics and that sort of thing which most people can't stand . The word is ruined.
@micael01
@micael01 Жыл бұрын
Hasan is saying all that, and he did not start the Fishmen arc, that talks DIRECTLY about racism, that traces parallels to the history of the fight against racism in america. HOW Joey and Garnt didn't notice the politicals motivation behind one piece is mind blowing
@weeecalango2761
@weeecalango2761 Жыл бұрын
Yea and how Hody at fishmen island was wrong for holding on to the grudge of their ancestors even tho present humans had done nothing bad to him, and thus he was the villain of that arc. Does that sound like something thats happening rn in the real world? Responder
@IanIDV
@IanIDV Жыл бұрын
OP is incredibly political, it just isn't nearly as black and white, aggressive, and in your face as 99% of political stuff you see. It's pretty rare that a piece of media can make politics not just tolerable, but enjoyable
@josesosa3337
@josesosa3337 Жыл бұрын
I totally get the idea, I think Oda just understands power dynamics, and inserting real world references.
@PK-uj8mp
@PK-uj8mp Жыл бұрын
'Black and white, aggressive, and in your face' bro you gotta be kidding me man. Luffy is literally a terrorist and ur saying the politics arent in your face 😭😭
@Necroskull388
@Necroskull388 Жыл бұрын
Read the article “Your Politics Are Boring as Fuck” for more on that concept. It’s actually way less rare than you think (for example the entire Metal Gear series, Bioshock series, etc etc) but that’s the whole problem - because it doesn’t slap you in the face, people can get through the whole thing without thinking they just experienced a “political” piece of media.
@jadenwaz9585
@jadenwaz9585 Жыл бұрын
@@Necroskull388 I feel like that has a bigger psychological impact than if it were to be overtly political. If people’s defenses are down and you get them invested emotionally in your ideas, you have more of a chance of changing their minds.
@SpicyTortilla69
@SpicyTortilla69 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@bayekofsiwa5847
@bayekofsiwa5847 Жыл бұрын
Aight for those y'all who needs refreshment on what kind of themes One Piece tackled in each major arcs. I already posted this in a subreddit but I'll post it here again. Just so you know, One Piece tackles A LOT of real world issues like political propaganda, war, poverty, famine, slavery, genocide, disease, racism, human experimentation, human trafficking, and most importantly, government corruption. Baratie - Hunger and how worthless money is if you get nothing to eat. Arlong Park - Extreme effects of institutional racism Drum Island - Disease and healthcare monopoly Alabasta - Evil political propaganda that leads to a deadly civil war Skypiea - Indigenous people fighting for their land and their proud history Water 7/Enies Lobby - Historical revisionism Thriller Bark - Depression Sabaody Archipelago/Amazon Lily - Slavery Marineford - World War that changes the course of history forever FishMan Island - Tackling institutional racism HAAARDD Punk Hazard - Human Trafficking and Human Experimentation Dressrosa - Evil political propaganda that leads to the full control of the citizens of Dressrosa (fake news, politician idolization, capturing/killing critics, etc) Dressrosa (Law's Backstory) - Disease that leads to genocide due to government withholding important information with regards to the country's important but highly dangerous resource for their own selfish gains. Wano - Poverty and hunger due to an extremely corrupt government/ What happens to a country if it's ruled by a fascist regime. To end, I'll just leave my own quote here: "One Piece is a child's beautiful imagination running wild on serious political and sociological issues."
@maximusmirov6478
@maximusmirov6478 Жыл бұрын
Is saying "good is good and bad is bad" political?
@sebastien-loikntsangou-kan5264
@sebastien-loikntsangou-kan5264 Жыл бұрын
I'd also like to add that Sabaody and the ASL flashback both tackles classism. Goa Kingdom is literally separated by the rich and the poor.
@SavantGardeEX
@SavantGardeEX Жыл бұрын
Not to mention dressrosa also had slaves working under the island, and Wano is pretty much based around Japan's Edo period and their 265 year isolationism under the Sakoku law where foreigners weren't allowed in and Japanese people weren't allowed to leave. it's sooooo political with just the islands history alone.
@josesosa3337
@josesosa3337 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with alrong park being about racism. Its about power. Would'nt Arlong be smart enough to know that random humans on an island don't contribute to fiahman persecution?? Is arlong an idiot?? Nope, Arlong is a scumbag who takes his problems out on innocent people. That arc, like most others in one piece is about POWER, and types of POWER.
@Necroskull388
@Necroskull388 Жыл бұрын
@@maximusmirov6478Considering that the Nazis were a political party that took power and ran their country, yes. No matter what evil you can think of, people can politically justify it and make it real.
@TheChaosOrganization
@TheChaosOrganization Жыл бұрын
The fact that the marines were prepared to murder a baby because his father was king of the pirates under any other story would sound like a political thriller to most people.
@ApexGale
@ApexGale Жыл бұрын
Luffy invades an extremely secure military facility with the intent to free someone who has been sentenced to death by a regime he has strong hatred for not once, but twice. Anyone who thinks he is not a terrorist is deluding themselves - he is actively anti-establishment and goes to various lengths to make his stance abundantly clear. Shooting down the flag of the WG, breaking pirates out of prison, attempting to halt Ace's execution, punching a Celestial Dragon in the face. What more proof do you need
@IR-Fan
@IR-Fan Жыл бұрын
​@Blood in the Water how aren't those things that @Apex Gale mentioned not act of terrorism?
@PowerSpirit50
@PowerSpirit50 Жыл бұрын
​@Blood in the Water It is terrorism against the World Government.
@smileyn7377
@smileyn7377 Жыл бұрын
@Blood in the Water Prison breaking is not terrorism?
@johnathanmcdoe
@johnathanmcdoe Жыл бұрын
@@smileyn7377 Neither by UNGA nor by U.S. code. Then again, terrorism is a severely overloaded term and you could probably fill a book with its meanings. It's pretty much useless by itself and only takes on a specific meaning if you know the context.
@AskunChanel
@AskunChanel Жыл бұрын
@Blood in the Water Well, that's terrorism. The world-Gov see them as a terrorist. Luffy literally broke many orders that the World-Gov established. And Luffy is literally a wanted man, just like a terrorist ring leader, a wanted man.
@metalliopleurodon
@metalliopleurodon Жыл бұрын
Geniunly felt dissappointed none of them could even fathom One Piece is political. Like, what were you paying attention to?
@res14himd
@res14himd Жыл бұрын
yeah it’s honestly kinda embarrassing how quickly they turned him down. especially with how excited hasan seemed about talking about that aspect of the story.
@kidkouga92
@kidkouga92 Жыл бұрын
Lol right!??? Like Fishman island is completely about Racism and SLAVERY, the WG literally rules using misinformation and commits all these freaking atrocities.
@mattbaltimore7195
@mattbaltimore7195 Жыл бұрын
Fanservice, absurd comedy, character arcs and pretty colors......
@metalliopleurodon
@metalliopleurodon Жыл бұрын
@@mattbaltimore7195 And those are pretty valid reasons to like the series. But like seriously, just how many times is Racism brought up in the story? I could understand Connor not getting it since he's reading it for the first time. But he just finished water 7. There was a book burning in that shit and a guy got shot by the government just for knowing a name.
@Levi-rc8kh
@Levi-rc8kh Жыл бұрын
I think they've just gotten so used to consuming brain dead entertainment like Jojos that they've just lost their ability to think on a deeper level about a show's themes.
@ChrisJoestarr
@ChrisJoestarr Жыл бұрын
I'm surprise by the guys reaction like it's pretty obvious one piece is literally one of the most political animes like pretty clear, i mean the whole plot revolved around it
@reddishcarp1237
@reddishcarp1237 Жыл бұрын
The plot revolves around finding One Piece.
@Brian-wx4ig
@Brian-wx4ig Жыл бұрын
@@reddishcarp1237 bruh be fr every arc revolves around politics
@alak2416
@alak2416 Жыл бұрын
@@reddishcarp1237 😂
@hei7846
@hei7846 Жыл бұрын
@@reddishcarp1237 That is the end goal but every arc has plot revolving around politics
@onlymyself1234
@onlymyself1234 Жыл бұрын
@@reddishcarp1237 Right, and the One Piece is tied to themes such as history revisionism. Void century and all
@DarkusAsakura
@DarkusAsakura Жыл бұрын
... Are you seriously telling me Joey and Garnt just watch One piece and go: -Haha, funny rubber man obliterates and dethrones oppressive dictator of X island, sails and repeats process for AT LEAST 6 times now? At some point you need to catch up on the pattern cmon!
@lancevance6346
@lancevance6346 Жыл бұрын
It's really not very good at it then. What a coincidence every restored monarchy has a tragic story and kind kings and royal families.
@Necroskull388
@Necroskull388 Жыл бұрын
@@lancevance6346Monarchies just fit storytelling better. It’s way easier to have the heroes sail in and restore a preferable past monarch then sail away, than to have them stick around every single time and laboriously establish a new Democratic state. Is that seriously the type of story you’d prefer?
@Eastrffffffffff
@Eastrffffffffff Жыл бұрын
Haha wow th funny rubber man just burned the flag of the corrupt millitary government who is unjustifiably sentencing his friend to execution or slavery over her knowledge of censored historical texts so hype! Truly one of the best nonpolitical shows on the air right now!
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo 7 ай бұрын
@@lancevance6346 I'm not sure what else you want from it because that's the best that can be done considering the fantastic nature of the work. The world of One Piece is practically anime Land of Oz, after all.
@TheBasedGreeg
@TheBasedGreeg 10 ай бұрын
This is very, very weird to me. Connor is Monkey, but Joey and Garnt usually have insightful commentary on a lot of art. Them being shocked and resistant to a very left leaning, anarchist manga series is just insane to me. Like how did they completely miss everything of substance? It’s a little more than Rubber boi vs Magma man guys… 😅
@T0NK0
@T0NK0 Жыл бұрын
Not to roast the boys... but wow they looked dumb here lol. Joey was really skeptical for no reason at all. It's a minor chunk of a podcast but this like actually kind of annoyed me, they were so weirdly dismissive lol
@topster888
@topster888 Жыл бұрын
Probably because One Piece is objectively less political than MHA is. OP is about as political as Dragon Ball Z's Frieza arc, which also deals with a dictator, racism, slavery, etc.
@GustavoMatiasp
@GustavoMatiasp Жыл бұрын
​@@topster888 wow thats a absurd take
@justaweeb1482
@justaweeb1482 Жыл бұрын
@@topster888 bro 🤦‍♂️your not serious….
@topster888
@topster888 Жыл бұрын
@Just a Weeb what's the logic that One Piece is more political than Dragon Ball Z? Isn't your entire argument that it's because OP has a lot of villains who are tyrants, racists, slavers, etc and the Strawhats fight them? Well they do that in DBZ too. So what makes OP more political than DBZ?
@Hyperslayer_X
@Hyperslayer_X Жыл бұрын
@@topster888 they can’t answer that lmao. One Piece is political yes, but it’s far from the “most political anime ever made”. Like come on, Attack on Titan exists. One Piece might be more political than Dragon Ball, but it’s relatively equal to Naruto and Bleach in terms of its political depth if we’re being 100% honest. There’s a lot more political anime/manga out there that go in depth about sociopolitical topics.
@ShaheerS2
@ShaheerS2 Жыл бұрын
how the fuck did joey and garnt NOT realize OP is political?????? i was so excited for someone politically inclined with an audience to watch OP and hasan was the perfect pick for this
@Karlthuluu
@Karlthuluu Жыл бұрын
I can really recommend Merphy Napiers reaction to each arc. She's not specifically political, but she is a book youtuber, so she is good at breaking down the themes of each arc
@ggpoh4925
@ggpoh4925 Жыл бұрын
Hasan barely knows anything about politics. His political reading library is not over 10 books I will bet my left nut on it.
@SavantGardeEX
@SavantGardeEX Жыл бұрын
​@@Karlthuluu I love that you mention her, but she seems to disregard and bypass a lot of the politics too.
@starandeath4735
@starandeath4735 Жыл бұрын
​@@SavantGardeEX fishman island is her favourite arc because of the politics
@royalfun1031
@royalfun1031 Жыл бұрын
​@@starandeath4735Themes*
@SpiderJAAM
@SpiderJAAM Жыл бұрын
*"Luffy... is a terrorist"* Just the way he said it kills me 😂 The Straw Hats are a criminal organization.
@topster888
@topster888 Жыл бұрын
They're pirates, not terrorists. A terrorist commits violence against civilians and use that fear to enact political change. The strawhats, when they're embroiled in a political situation, fight the ones at the source of the problem. By definition, they aren't terrorists.
@jasonjones3328
@jasonjones3328 Жыл бұрын
​@@topster888 Pirates were considered terrorists
@topster888
@topster888 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonjones3328 Not by the dictionary. Or the UN.
@jasonjones3328
@jasonjones3328 Жыл бұрын
@@topster888 The UN didn't exist when pirates were a thing, or at least these types of pirates
@comedownmachine4682
@comedownmachine4682 Жыл бұрын
@@topster888 luffy is literally a terrorist he declared war against the gov. average pirates don’t do that
@TheBlackDemon1996
@TheBlackDemon1996 Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched much of One Piece yet, but even I know that one of the series' most famous moments is Luffy punching a corrupt politician in the face so hard it started a war... EDIT: Okay, so I'm nearly caught up on the anime now, and goddamn is this series political...!
@scorpioninpink
@scorpioninpink Жыл бұрын
Or burning the World Government flag.
@Tebrial
@Tebrial Жыл бұрын
Not even a politician, literally he is a class of elite people that see themselves so far above the rest of society that they literally wear suits as to not touch the same ground and breath the same air as the normal people.
@Dr._Atom
@Dr._Atom Жыл бұрын
Didn't actually start a war, but okay
@commonviewer2488
@commonviewer2488 Жыл бұрын
​@@Dr._Atom They called it war, and seeing the fighting that followed all over the isles, I'd say it was a short-lived war
@leleo2219
@leleo2219 Жыл бұрын
@@Dr._Atom eh, it did send Kizaru after them which then saw a fight between Kizaru, Sentoumaru, Kuma (kinda), the pacifista vs all supernovas, strawhat pirates, Rayleigh. It was short but it fits the definition "a state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country"
@IamZedX
@IamZedX Жыл бұрын
I feel their laughs and genuine lack of ever looking 5% deeper into the actual story, is really more surprising than Hasan lol
@yunkinto
@yunkinto Жыл бұрын
True i was like, how is nobody agreeing with him? I can see cutscene- and story skipper connor not seeing it but gnart and joey too?
@B-max.
@B-max. Жыл бұрын
Calm down, it's an entertainment podcast. They are just playing dumb for that reason.
@IamZedX
@IamZedX Жыл бұрын
@@B-max. bro they literally had serious discussions about literal hentai the podcast just before lmao. Yet they have a guest bringing up stuff and they have to play dumb and act like have zero idea what he talking about? yeah... no bud
@SolitaryLark
@SolitaryLark Жыл бұрын
I hate that they laughed, like it’s not funny it’s completely true
@hyperinsomniaparacondrioid
@hyperinsomniaparacondrioid Жыл бұрын
I think it's just because politics is a touchy subject
@niyaking-khari3515
@niyaking-khari3515 Жыл бұрын
Do these guys read One Piece with their eyes closed? Oda literally couldn't be anymore overt when it comes to showing his political beliefs in One Piece. 90% of One Piece arcs are about the Strawhats toppling oppressive governments and distributing wealth/food/medical care etc. among the citizens
@ReiseLukas
@ReiseLukas 11 ай бұрын
True. One Piece is also Romanticism, It's romantic to beleive that all it takes to make society better is to topple corruption and spread the resources back to the people. In a Romance it's totally fine and I have no issue with it in the story itself. But the real world is more complicated and One Piece's methods of making the world better won't always work. In a fictional world I support these values, but not in the real world. The core One Piece principles of fighting for Freedom and following your dreams I still wholeheartedly support, but everything else is questionable in real life
@frosthammer917
@frosthammer917 8 ай бұрын
I mean I don't think Oda really thinks himself that the real world is as easy and straightforward as his story. I think its meant to be a fun story also espousing his ideals but not really a guide on how to bring it to our world.
@manuelsputnik
@manuelsputnik 8 ай бұрын
@@ReiseLukas One Piece is, in a lot of ways, as realistic as a classic Shonen Jump comic can be about this sort of thing.
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo 7 ай бұрын
@@frosthammer917 Honestly, the world of One Piece has never felt like an "easy and straightforward" place to live. The wackiness aside, this is a world where pirates are everywhere, the government is monstrously corrupt, and both factions contain people with destructive superpowers that use them on a daily basis. Not to mention the story of One Piece is far from easy and straightforward when you get right down to it. Not when there are over a thousand characters and 80% of them have this interconnected history that spans centuries of in-universe time.
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo 7 ай бұрын
@@ReiseLukas It's true. I mean, let's face it, Luffy and the Straw Hats are eventually going to get to Mary Geoise and rip Imu and the Celestial Dragons new ones, and it's going to be glorious. But in the real world, toppling corrupt regimes is far more complicated than just showing up at their doorstep in your ship and kicking all their asses.
@taquitolayton68
@taquitolayton68 Жыл бұрын
nah dude pure coincidence when he writes stuff like "Workers, take up your weapons!" and "Envelop the factory! Destroy the place where we labored!" in cover stories haha.. crazy coincidences all over the place
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude Жыл бұрын
A worker revolt written into the story is very obviously Oda trying to inject his own communist revolutionary ideology, thought into the material to spread the word of communism... NOT. Ffs.
@mello9074
@mello9074 Жыл бұрын
People don't read cover stories I guess
@ZeroResurrected
@ZeroResurrected Жыл бұрын
Please stop telling lies
@topster888
@topster888 Жыл бұрын
Remember the part where he restored a *monarchy* from a group that tried to overthrow it? You might have missed it; it only happened like four times in the series.
@lancevance6346
@lancevance6346 Жыл бұрын
As is All the monarchies(current world billionaires) Luffy restored , all with conveniently sad and tragic backstories and kind royal families. What a coincidence they're all such wonderful people.
@Samael767
@Samael767 Жыл бұрын
This was just so...strange to watch. It's easily one of the most overtly political shonen series ever made. Watching the others just laugh every time he spoke is just...deeply baffling.
@topster888
@topster888 Жыл бұрын
Even MHA has more politics in it than One Piece does. Calm down.
@ThereaalSP
@ThereaalSP Жыл бұрын
@@topster888 LMAOOOO
@jacopom.7477
@jacopom.7477 Жыл бұрын
@@topster888 It's not even close
@p7p7d7l
@p7p7d7l Жыл бұрын
Delete this comment buddy u embarrass urself with it
@b4194
@b4194 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see Hassan to go into the difference in politics between OP and Naruto as Naruto is essentially fascist
@Tebrial
@Tebrial Жыл бұрын
I can understand missing some of the themes, but sometimes one piece is so in your face about it that its hard to imagine how someone could miss it. Lets take Germa. A country in which the leader was obsessed with superhuman prowess, that saw himself and his genetically engineered family as superior. They have a giant eagle as an emblem. Germa(ny), do I really need to explain more?
@ajiththomas2465
@ajiththomas2465 Жыл бұрын
I know, right? One Piece is obviously political in a substantial sense, not a stylistic sense. All it takes is too look at the allusions and references. Luffy's father Monkey D. Dragon is the leader of the Revolutionary Army, his ship is named Granma, the same name as Fidel Castro's shop, and his birthday is October 8, the same date of the October Revolution. Not only that but having a framed portrait of Che Guevara on your wall is quite a lot different from having a Che Guevara T-shirt. Another is the Gorosei/Five Elders who are at the near top of the World Government. All 5 of them are visually based on important political leaders from history, namely: Itagaki Taisuke, Abraham Lincoln, Mikhail Gorbachev, Mahatma Gandhi, and Giuseppe Garibaldi (often erroneously confused for Karl Marx by other OP fans). One Piece is plenty political not simply in stylistic choices but also in substance. Its just wild that the Trash Taste boys are missing it, especially when 2 of them also focus on media analysis. Do you get what I mean?..
@laurentbergeronmusic
@laurentbergeronmusic Жыл бұрын
Nothing about Germa is political though. Them taking from nazi imagery isn't any different than them taking from power ranger imagery. The strawhats ultimately befriend Germa 66 despite the fact that they do not change at all, and in fact, in the recent cover story Judge allies with Caesar Clown who is a Doctor Mengele type. So if anything, they are worse than ever, but all Luffy thinks about them is that they have cool suits. If Germa is genuinely supposed to be political, then Oda is saying that it is fine to be friends with nazis.
@foggy8298
@foggy8298 Жыл бұрын
@@laurentbergeronmusic what are you even talking about?? Nobody within the Vinsmoke family or Germa had any self-determination besides Sanji when he ran away, his mom who died, and the strong father figure Which is even more fascist imagery, because that’s what fascism, in part, wants. A strong manly figure to be the face of the entire populous. Judge has never shown any redeeming qualities ever and nobody likes him. Even his children who he genetically altered to make worse people are showing signs of resistance. They’re partially abdicated of moral weight because they had no autonomy, and when they start gaining some, they go as isn’t Sanji. Germa 66 is pitied because of how horrible they are and how sad the situation is. Nobody is friends with Judge. Also, the Nazis are political and nazi imagery and thematic story elements of eugenics and fascism is political
@laurentbergeronmusic
@laurentbergeronmusic Жыл бұрын
@@foggy8298 And yet despite all that, Judge helps Luffy, and Luffy says goodbye to them with a smile. He's maybe not totally friends, but he's definitely friendly with them. The nazi thing is just a theme they had, like how Moria's crew had a horror theme, or how Kidd's crew had a metal (music) theme, or how Big Mom's crew had a food theme.
@foggy8298
@foggy8298 Жыл бұрын
@@laurentbergeronmusic no? Judge “helped” Luffy very loosely, and Luffy didn’t understand how horrible Judge was. When Luffy talked about how judge listed all of Sanjis good qualities it was proof that Luffy is not privy to all the horrors he did. He’s an exclusively morally bankrupt villain and is hated by his children (that have free expression) more than even big mom. The nazi comparison is very, very explicit and judge is treated as the worst of the worst within the series. Gothic horror tropes and candy land are visual themes that don’t always have weight while nazi imagery is exclusively symbolic of a very specific brand of authoritative evil. Sanji is the emotional through-line of whole cake island, and he says himself that he can’t blame his family as a whole for the sins of the father, disowns said father, and shows his moral superiority by saving him while judge cries and whimpers, an obvious contrast to how judge berated Sanji for his emotions. If you genuinely believe that Judge Vinsmoke as he is now is an allied force for the Strawhats you either have not read/watched one piece, need to retake your middle school English classes and learn how to analyze text, or are sympathetic to judge himself.
@antonioemilio9932
@antonioemilio9932 Жыл бұрын
The title of the video should be "Trash Taste gaslighting Hassan into thinking One Piece isn't Political and Hassan is just a silly communist man".
@KaiserTrigger
@KaiserTrigger Жыл бұрын
Well... He is. He's the kind of person to watch Barney The Dinosaur and try to trick you into thinking that a message about friends and family delivered through a purple dinosaur and song is some evil capitalist scheme.
@ZeroResurrected
@ZeroResurrected Жыл бұрын
Hasan is a terrible person and deserves far worse than this
@GustavoMatiasp
@GustavoMatiasp Жыл бұрын
​@@KaiserTrigger bro u look dumb
@aliscripture9334
@aliscripture9334 Жыл бұрын
@@KaiserTrigger Yh some radical liberals tend to be overly paranoid and politicise art too much
@Necroskull388
@Necroskull388 Жыл бұрын
@@aliscripture9334the fact you described Hasan as a radlib because he’s a leftist is so funny to me lmao
@shyguypro9876
@shyguypro9876 Жыл бұрын
The boys kinda put their foot their mouth on this one. It's genuinely shocking to me that they can read One Piece and not see how absurdly political it is. It's honestly made me think less of their opinion in media in general because it kinda shows they don't really pay attention to or think about what they watch/read.
@TheLandauMinimum
@TheLandauMinimum Жыл бұрын
They also called Japan Sinks apolitical back when it came out. They are generally very bad at parsing subtext (and text for that matter).
@bakernation
@bakernation Жыл бұрын
@@TheLandauMinimum They fucking know. They just don't want to piss off the fence sitters and the hog-adjacent in their audience. The same reason many content creators actively avoid politics unless it specifically applies to them.
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo 7 ай бұрын
Not going to lie, watching this clip back when it was first uploaded made me realize how dangerous it is to care so much about the opinions of people you don't know, and that there really are a low of shallow people out there who don't put as much thought into things as you do. One Piece is chock-full of political subtext; it's more than just characters who only appear once in a panel showing up hundreds of chapters later to be a major player in the last saga. And the fact the Trash Taste guys were never able to see that for themselves despite being with One Piece for so long is just sad.
@KlintKaras
@KlintKaras Жыл бұрын
People say one piece is not political because they are used to "political" stuff being super aggressive and accusatory. Meanwhile one piece if more tangentially political/ implying politics . And you can watch it and side with either group . You aren't explicitly told "this side bad!" Its heavily implied and I side with pirates but you can absolutely watch and feel the world government is "right with some bad apples"
@lifeline_
@lifeline_ Жыл бұрын
I mean, it's not even just the WG and pirate as they both have bad people in them. Fishman island has loads of racists and extreme nationalists, but Oda give understandable reasons why they turn out that way. He shows how globalism through the WG has allowed for colonialism, not nationalism, but also how nationalism such as with Big Mom's territory can also be a problem. The best part about One Pieces political side, is there are very few characters that you look at and say they are evil. Some were born, most were made, and he shows how this could be done.
@quietcoast
@quietcoast Жыл бұрын
@klint karas Probably the best comment. So much media can’t help but preach and scream about how much their own view [the author’s] is correct and everyone else is horrible. Whatever political message exists is left for the audience to engage with freely or completely ignore while still enjoying the show. In that sense One Piece is actually apolitical. The ability for people to people to assume their own righteous is boundless. Maybe Oda is a secret leftist, maybe not. When a story is well written it transcends the petty views of ideologues be they left or right, anarchist or statist, and even what the writer believes themself.
@josesosa3337
@josesosa3337 Жыл бұрын
@@quietcoast I agree. I've said it before, I don't know oda's real beliefs, but i think he's good at mixing real world references with cultural and power dynamics. I think anyone can agree that one piece is about power, freedom, and the balance of the latter. If pirates are freedom fighters who fight "cops", then what about luffy's relationship with Coby, Garp, and smoker?? When pirates fight eachother, is Oda pro revolutionaries killing eachother?? If he's anti government, why is it a good thing when luffy beats up pirates who stand against him?? I think Oda wants to portray an imperfect world, similar to our own, reaching its boiling point. There are good and bad ways to be free. Sorry for the long comment.
@vincent207
@vincent207 3 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have put it better myself. I think when people say to keep politics out of entertainment, they generally mean keep out politics with a sense of finger wagging towards the audience.
@derjaxx5302
@derjaxx5302 Жыл бұрын
If the fact that the revolutionary army in One Piece has a ton of Okamas in it isn't political then I don't know what is lol
@sarthakarora3212
@sarthakarora3212 Жыл бұрын
The queen of okama that can actually change sexs permanently and changes her gender of a whim is the definition of the most politically involved leader ever.
@marcelocapeljunior3579
@marcelocapeljunior3579 Жыл бұрын
Being fair, our first impression of the Okamas was through Mr.2 in Baroque works, a secret society of mercenaries hoping to overthrow a largely benign ruler for their own benefit. It was only in Impel Down and with Ivankov that we got a better picture of them.
@foggy8298
@foggy8298 Жыл бұрын
@@marcelocapeljunior3579 yeah, but every gender nonconforming character in one piece has been shown to be explicitly heroic, and there have been a lot of nonconformity in that regards. Wano had a trans woman and a trans man(????? Yamato is a little confusing), but before that we’ve had all the heroic Okama. Even if their looks were played for jokes sometimes (which is a little ewwy), they were always explicitly big goods. Even Mr. 2 in Alabasta vs. Sanji was shown to be the most outstanding baroque works agent
@tenkenroo
@tenkenroo 8 ай бұрын
Well hold on mr 2 from his introduction was always a kind person. It was merely his involvement with baroque works that made him an antagonist. After he was defeated he was willing to get captured just to allow luffy to escape. Okamas in one piece, while being considered gonk in appearance, are always kind hearted and for the side of freedom.
@worztbeats8189
@worztbeats8189 3 ай бұрын
yamato is a woman btw.@@foggy8298
@neouma5382
@neouma5382 Жыл бұрын
I seriously don't understand how they don't see the political themes, connor i get it, but i expected better from joey and garnt. They really just see the show as funny rubber man punch big bad guy lol
@Dadude572
@Dadude572 Жыл бұрын
Because the show doesn't try to push a political message to either side. It's political themes are basic but not hammered home on what Oda thinks of the world or how governments should be ran. It's as political as pirates of the Caribbean. Like I'm sure everyone is aware it exists in One Piece but it's goal was never to push forward a specific political narrative, it's more focused on being a fun adventure with obstacles. Portraying a world government as being corrupt is a very common concept and grounds for a lot of story telling in general, on anime specifically it rarely gets deeper than that nor does it explore the nuances.
@neouma5382
@neouma5382 Жыл бұрын
@@Dadude572 but stuff like okama/trans characters like ivankov exclusively being on the revolutionary side, the message that healthcare shouldn't be privatised and should be accessible in drum island, the 3 whole arcs dedicated to the themes of racism, I feel oda is clearly pushing a certain side and the story reflects on his sort of views
@lancevance6346
@lancevance6346 Жыл бұрын
I can guarantee you 98% of the watchers around the world view it as exactly that. Not from the political brainrot lens in the west. Everything is just a thing that happens. A minority of people's cope about being some revolutionary doesn't resonate with most of the world. They don't associate trans characters with anything political in particular happening around them. It's just a character that exists. etc
@foggy8298
@foggy8298 Жыл бұрын
@@Dadude572 no, Oda is very clearly “shoving” his opinions in one piece, as he is allowed to as the sole author. Just because they don’t say out loud “wow, Fisher Tiger is a lot like historical African American civil rights leader Malcolm X, and fishman island is about the dangers of both passive and aggressive activism within marginalized communities and how infighting and pointless spite only worsens the prospects for those communities against the power structure oppressing them” because Oda is a writer and good writers hope (though are apparently wrong) that their audience is able to read into their stories themes and not just pog at Luffy fighting the big bad again
@foggy8298
@foggy8298 Жыл бұрын
@@neouma5382 yeah, the fact that even though Oda, on the surface at least, seems kinda transphobic in character designs and stuff (at least until Wano), he’s obviously very pro gender expression There has never been a villainous character who’s even somewhat gender-nonconformist, and there have been tons of characters who are obviously in that camp. Ivankov and his queendom I forgot the name of , Mr. 2, that red scabbard trans lady, Yamato even if the discourse surrounding him is toxic incarnate- Probably others I’m forgetting too
@rashotcake6945
@rashotcake6945 Жыл бұрын
Man, the guest only scratched the surface of the politics of one piece in this video. There’s anti-racism in fishman island, environmentalism and pro-immigration in wano, straight up marxism in the Goa kingdom arc
@ashpelt1
@ashpelt1 Жыл бұрын
hes only up to the end of marineford, so im excited to see what he says about those arcs when he gets to them
@BigFatSammich
@BigFatSammich Жыл бұрын
Hasan is smart enough to know going TOO in-depth would bore the Trash Taste audience so he only brought a digestible amount of insight to the table. You can look up clips of Hasan talking about OP. He goes more in-depth :)
@DameOfDiamonds
@DameOfDiamonds Жыл бұрын
​@@BigFatSammich Hasan is not smart lol
@ajiththomas2465
@ajiththomas2465 Жыл бұрын
Hasan purposely only talked about a small part of the mountain of political aspects of One Piece. If you want to hear his more independent thoughts on each arx, check out one of his clip channels, HasanAbi Agitprop, which has a Once Piece Playlist.
@carl4243
@carl4243 Жыл бұрын
​@BigFatSammich oh good a pretentious overthinker
@ArgzeroYT
@ArgzeroYT Жыл бұрын
"japan loves the bad guy" - iirc villain academia was popular in USA and not Japan
@divinehero7331
@divinehero7331 Жыл бұрын
japan loves GOOD villains
@jasonjones3328
@jasonjones3328 Жыл бұрын
​@@divinehero7331 Actually most villain arcs aren't well recieved in Japan it's why we barely get them
@stevenmark4407
@stevenmark4407 Жыл бұрын
They laughed at literally everything he said as if it were a joke. Ffs. Lol these lot are so in awe with the characters, gimmicks and tropes that they don’t see all the political themes and messages that are RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. Then Garnt has the audacity to say that oh some mangaka’s add things like that cause it’s “cool” like man can’t be serious. Lol.
@Hyperslayer_X
@Hyperslayer_X Жыл бұрын
He’s right though. Kubo for example literally said on record that he added different cultural elements into Bleach because he thought it was cool. The Christian symbolism in Eva was literally added because the creators thought it was cool. They said it doesn’t have any deeper meaning.
@Necroskull388
@Necroskull388 Жыл бұрын
@@Hyperslayer_XYeah and those are two totally different series. There are other series where the politics are explicitly intentional, like Gundam. Also, I’m pretty sure that thing about Eva having no deeper meaning was just Anno bullshitting since he hates his fans.
@fumbuswumbus
@fumbuswumbus Жыл бұрын
@@Necroskull388 I completely agree, obviously some series do things for aesthetic purposes but from what I know about one piece, Oda genuinely has things to say about these subjects. The difference between oda and kubo is that the cultural elements in bleach are more of an aesthetic thing (correct me if im wrong) where as real world problems are a major part of one piece and put the forefront.
@kipwhitler6804
@kipwhitler6804 6 ай бұрын
i like to think the boys consume anime with more than just a cursory, surface-level eye. hearing them talk to Hasan like he's got another head growing out of his neck when he says "One Piece is a political anime" is genuinely the most baffling thing they could have said. like holy shit.
@egg3228
@egg3228 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the boys jerk reaction to Hasan saying it’s political comes from them having a surface level idea what political means This was such a fun episode with Hasan 😂
@SavantGardeEX
@SavantGardeEX Жыл бұрын
Literally twitter rn thinking about leftist and conservative. Political in a fictional sense, but also some real world leftist ideology triggered so many ppl on the bird app bruh 😂
@DP-mv7ph
@DP-mv7ph 7 ай бұрын
fr politics and human rights are basically the same terms! like politics are not only countries having war with each other but its also about stuff like homophobia, racism, abortion laws and etc..
@focornali4349
@focornali4349 Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that Luffy would be an anarchist at best considering his big thing is freedom and dreams above all else.
@RFLCPTR
@RFLCPTR Жыл бұрын
Anarchocommunist, deal?
@joebidenjr5902
@joebidenjr5902 Жыл бұрын
He's a blank slate for the people watching to project on to. Luffy never makes any comments on the politics in the anime.
@Brian-wx4ig
@Brian-wx4ig Жыл бұрын
@@joebidenjr5902 bro he burns down the flag of the world government and kills marines If that isn’t a political message idk what is to you Buddy
@RockSolitude
@RockSolitude Жыл бұрын
Luffy is a pirate (duh)
@agustinrosado1153
@agustinrosado1153 Жыл бұрын
Well even that description would make him a leftist, as anarchists are placed on the far-left The left describes ideologies that look to give social support in opposition to hierarchies, while the right describes ideologies that trust those hierarchies, trying to maintain them and act through them.
@FeiFongWang
@FeiFongWang 7 ай бұрын
EVERYTHING is political, “Ideology is strong exactly because it is no longer experienced as ideology… we feel free because we lack the very language to articulate our unfreedom.” ― Slavoj Žižek The people who consider themselves "apolitical" or "without ideology" are actually the ones with the STRONGEST, ever present ideology. They have come to see their ideology as reality itself, and use it as the lens in which they view every aspect of society. Politics permeate every aspect of an organized society, point blank, end of story.
@yxxsyn6562
@yxxsyn6562 Жыл бұрын
joey and garnt has definitely not watched the one piece me and hasan watched clearly
@sarcoidosis33
@sarcoidosis33 Жыл бұрын
I'm convinced Joey and Garnt were playing up their reactions to OP being political. There's no way they think all the references and plot lines are just randomly thrown together because Oda thinks it's cool. If they're being serious, then I'm so beyond disappointed. I thought they both loved OP and thought about it critically
@kobil316SH
@kobil316SH Жыл бұрын
The boys should be fucking embarrassed for the way they were laughing and dismissing Hasan.
@Dr._Atom
@Dr._Atom Жыл бұрын
Not really, hasan has always been the subject of laughter for years
@terrencenoran3233
@terrencenoran3233 Жыл бұрын
Most anime are political to some extent. It just depends how blatantly they can shove it down your throats. If people know their history, they should know that being a pirate back then was inherently a political thing. That's why One Piece having politics is not that far off.
@moustachio05
@moustachio05 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day paying or choosing not to pay your taxes and living in society is already a political action
@komos3719
@komos3719 11 ай бұрын
Ah yes, I remember when the totally apolitical and protagonist-aligned REVOLUTIONARY ARMY sneak into the Reverie (basically a world summit) just for shits and giggles ig
@PetarBladeStrok
@PetarBladeStrok Жыл бұрын
Super wierd how boys didn't think One Piece is political. How can you miss that?! Hassan is preaching.
@SavantGardeEX
@SavantGardeEX Жыл бұрын
​@@benjaminramsey498 NAH it's all facts... Che guvera was also in a flag of the manga chapter 702 in OP....
@Necroskull388
@Necroskull388 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminramsey498Bro Japanese people are humans living on Earth not space aliens. Their politics aren’t that different. Do you really need someone to tell you that there are Japanese socialists, communists, capitalists, and fascists?
@worztbeats8189
@worztbeats8189 3 ай бұрын
luffy is the warrior of freedom, and guess wich system forces you to do whatever the "greater good" needs you to do?@@Necroskull388
@mvk4343
@mvk4343 4 ай бұрын
Trash Taste boys' reactions is what happens when you only do barely basic surface level reading
@Golemon_of_Cat
@Golemon_of_Cat 11 ай бұрын
the whole "why is the curtain blue" concept often gets misunderstood. The point is not to ONLY analyze the author's implicit messaging, but also the unconscious messages that are woven in. Also Yes everything is political, people don't recognize it because they perceive politics to be strictly tied to "named systems"(socialism, conservatism etc.)
@fajarsetiawan8665
@fajarsetiawan8665 4 ай бұрын
One Piece is made by a mangaka who display a Che Guevara poster on his apartment's wall and spotted to have Karl Marx's book in his shelf. Wtf are you talking about that One Piece isn't left-wing? 😂😂
@FlamasNegras
@FlamasNegras Жыл бұрын
One Piece is a extremely progressive series. The main forces of good are called "the revolutionary army" and they are going against unjust regimes that believe themselves to be "better" than others because they were born in a special societal class. Like, if you didn't pick that, then might as well not have been watching One Piece. I already said that on Reedit and I stand by that. It is just obvious O.O Also, Thriller Bark is very fun. How dare you xD
@ajiththomas2465
@ajiththomas2465 Жыл бұрын
I know, right? One Piece is obviously political in a substantial sense, not a stylistic sense. All it takes is too look at the allusions and references. Luffy's father Monkey D. Dragon is the leader of the Revolutionary Army, his ship is named Granma, the same name as Fidel Castro's shop, and his birthday is October 8, the same date of the October Revolution. Not only that but having a framed portrait of Che Guevara on your wall is quite a lot different from having a Che Guevara T-shirt. Another is the Gorosei/Five Elders who are at the near top of the World Government. All 5 of them are visually based on important political leaders from history, namely: Itagaki Taisuke, Abraham Lincoln, Mikhail Gorbachev, Mahatma Gandhi, and Giuseppe Garibaldi (often erroneously confused for Karl Marx by other OP fans). One Piece is plenty political not simply in stylistic choices but also in substance. Its just wild that the Trash Taste boys are missing it, especially when 2 of them also focus on media analysis. Do you get what I mean?...
@abdurrahmanqureshi3030
@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 Ай бұрын
One thing that one piece misses is that there are two sides to a story. Marines and Celestials are often times portrayed as brain dead dogs of the world government with no nuance or reasoning for what they do. I think not giving their perspective is a pretty big miss in the series but I think this will change. Once we get Akainu's backstory it will make a lot more sense why they do what they do.
@Saphsin
@Saphsin Жыл бұрын
The background political world building has been building up from the beginning and becomes blatantly in your face by the Enies Lobby Arc.
@Ihavethekenergy
@Ihavethekenergy 3 ай бұрын
Clearly all the boys need a rewatch, and also a class on political history
@inakiodriozola7248
@inakiodriozola7248 8 ай бұрын
And he didn't even mention how Drum Island it's basically a big metaphor for public vs private health and the access to health as a right
@Dx_Ach
@Dx_Ach Жыл бұрын
Wait untill he gets to the introduction of racism against Fishmen and how big a deal it was when Jinbe had a blood transfusion.
@weeecalango2761
@weeecalango2761 Жыл бұрын
yea and how Hody at fishmen island was wrong for holding on to the grudge of their ancestors even tho present humans had done nothing bad to him, and thus he was the villain of that arc. While Jinbe decided to leave the bulsshit behind and unite to humans, like was the queens desire from the very beggining.
@milkboy2228
@milkboy2228 Жыл бұрын
@@weeecalango2761 The grudge isn't the focus the racism is the focus of the problem. Otherwise we wouldn't have Fisher Tiger in such a heroic light for refusing to do the transfusion despite his clearly good nature. The grudge is meant to be understood. The celestial dragons are the main example of racists in this series since they push the notion of an inferior race to begin with. The racism wasn't left behind and it didn't end with Jinbe.
@weeecalango2761
@weeecalango2761 Жыл бұрын
@@milkboy2228 Heroic light? it wasnt heroic at all, it was just sad, that despite trying his best, in the end he couldnt let go of his own hatred, that was rooted deep in him. The racism obviously didnt end with jinbe, because thats not how things works, but Jinbe defeated his own hatred, and so did most of the fishmen from fishmen island. The focus is the grudge, because Hody pushed grudge towards humans, however he himself had NEVER experienced racism, in fact, HE was he racist from the very beginning, he was the one killing humans since he was a child, and also had supremacist ideas just like Arlong.Thats what hatred ideology did to him. Tenryuubito are not racists, theyre not a race, theyre a class. They see everyone else as inferior, the same way they enslave fishmen they also enslave fellow humans. If you want a blatant display of actual racism in the show, look no further than Arlong and Hody. Please read fishmen island again, and youll see the message is EXTREMELY clear. When the prince says "we dont need a past, please set it back to zero" thats the answer for the problem. The answer is to let go of hatred of your ancestors, because the people living now have nothing to do with it, and otherwise youll just create an infinite loop of revenge.
@milkboy2228
@milkboy2228 Жыл бұрын
@@weeecalango2761 Your telling me Hody never expierenced racism but want me to reread the arc? Crazy how consistent that statement is. They literally live in an isolated bubble where the children aren't allowed to be free and enjoy the archipelago, or the rest of the world. They are constantly oppressed and Hody grows up taking this to mean that all humans are evil. He's the extremist interpretation of the grudge. Just because he didn't have a celestial dragon step on him doesn't mean he doesn't live in a world that tells him he's inferior. Fisher Tiger was absolutely a hero despite his sad ending due to the same grudge. The sun pirates as a whole are the symbol of hope for slaves. There's no denying that he's held in a clearly positive light which couldn't be the case if holding a grudge was the sole focus. The celestial dragons are also clearly racist. Just because they're also shitty to humans doesn't mean they aren't extra shitty to Fishmen, who they directly view as an inferior race. They hold these views so clearly and these views so clearly exist as it's what leads to Fishmen like Arlong having the responsive ideas that Fishmen are actually superior instead. Fisher Tiger is clearly inspired by Malcolm X and Otohime is MLK. Both are seen in positive lights and both understood the idea that racism doesn't just end by not caring about the past. The fishmen had a larger goal to be part of the world and the reverie. The idea that the fishmen are in the wrong is not in anyway the main point as they are meant to be sympathized with, while also including extremes that we shouldn't sympathize with. It's not just "look how wrong they are for fearing humans." It's about change.
@weeecalango2761
@weeecalango2761 Жыл бұрын
@@milkboy2228 Bro youre dellusional.. its not me saying Hody never experienced racism, Hody HIMSELF said that. When the prince asks Hody what did the humans do to him for him to hold such a grudge, he answers "nothing". The difference between your point and mine is that you are talking ideology from your head, and im talking about what is CLEARLY STATED IN THE MANGA, and i mean clearly, because it was written with all the words. Hody was crazy, he was holding on to the grudge of the past, and lashing on to innocent people. He was completely in the wrong, just like Arlong, and the author makes no argument to justify his actions. Fishertiger is seen as a hero, yes, but his death was not heroic...at all. Nobody understood why he wouldnt just take the blood and it was sad. Do you know what was heroic? Jinbei making the blood transfusion for Luffy, that simbolizes he managed to overcome his hatred of humans, he took the first step towards union. Hody was never a character made to be sympathized with.. in NO point his actions are justified.. he is straight up bad..the same applies to Arlong. Youre so insane you look at the characters and see actual real historic figures, that just proves you read the manga through the lens of you bs ideology. I urge you, reread fishmem island, but ACTUALLY READ IT, you cant just get the story framework, insert your political ideologies inside and think you got the plot LOL, thats not how stories work.
@blueshoals
@blueshoals Жыл бұрын
The more often you hear the words "War, Government, Soldier, Tyranny, Freedom, Royalty, Nobility, Peasant, Native, Foreign, Criminal, Outlaw," or things like that, the more and more obvious it should be that the subject matter is inherently political. Hell, you should think "Politics," the moment you hear someone mention anything about "War."
@amongstsus9201
@amongstsus9201 6 ай бұрын
media literacy is dead
@DerpASherpa117
@DerpASherpa117 Жыл бұрын
Luffy himself is quite apolitical, but HIGHLY moral, which isn't necessarily a leftist thing (in fact, I'd argue just the opposite). That being said, One Piece is definitely political.
@cryingbball
@cryingbball Жыл бұрын
Yeah I kinda see this. An apolitical figure taking political action because of his morals.
@lirycline6646
@lirycline6646 Жыл бұрын
Leftist are incredible immoral tho
@lirycline6646
@lirycline6646 Жыл бұрын
Leftist are incredible immoral tho
@DerpASherpa117
@DerpASherpa117 Жыл бұрын
@@cryingbball he doesn't consciously see his actions as political, though. He sees them through the lens of doing the right thing. Although keep in mind that pirates in OP go both ways in terms of doing the right thing, including the Straw Hats. They are still PIRATES after all, which is why I find the idea of some people commenting that "dude, pirates ships are totally like communes bro" hilarious, both in OP and IRL.
@devkanyabose7591
@devkanyabose7591 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@manny3765
@manny3765 Ай бұрын
They’re laughing but he’s 100% correct
@cosmicklutz1675
@cosmicklutz1675 Жыл бұрын
Watching them laugh like "lol he’s so funny hahaha" as if he wasn’t straight up spitting facts.
@gloriathomas3245
@gloriathomas3245 Жыл бұрын
The Gundam series way political and Tomino doesn't hide either. In fact I would say Endless Waltz basically sums up how super political the entire Gundam series is.
@NezeruGaming
@NezeruGaming Жыл бұрын
In an interview about Weathering with You, "according to Tomino, today's Japanese youths are different from his generation. Unlike youths in the 1960s, who dreamed of communist revolution, today's youths find similar catharsis in works divorced from reality, which Tomino thinks is exemplified in the appeal of KZfaq and Makoto Shinkai's films". "Tomino then remarked that a feeling of frustration towards the state of Japanese politics has been a constant since World War II. "It ends up being a case where people feel like all they can do is just plod along steadily in life, without getting caught up in the incompetence of politicians. So when it comes to their desires, they look away from reality and instead direct themselves inward. They dream of revolution taking place within themselves. In that sense, watching Shinkai's anime and feeling refreshed, even when it's only your own feelings that are being addressed, is one way of living in today's society without becoming a criminal." "When the interviewer responded that this seemed like a rather defeatist outlook, Tomino said that "plodding along steadily" is a very human characteristic. Ideally, people should be applying that mentality towards the problems of the world rather than focusing all of it inward. As a positive example, he cited the cleanup activities performed by elementary school children on the island of Okinoerabujima in order to prevent plastics on the beaches reaching other countries. Applying an attitude of diligence towards the environment within one's daily life and passing that attitude on to children is a way of confronting the world's problems. By doing that, the world can be changed without looking inward or through sparking revolution." "And if society were to change like that... maybe Shinkai's works won't be hits to the extent that they are now," Tomino remarked with a laugh."
@terrencenoran3233
@terrencenoran3233 Жыл бұрын
That's because the mecha genre is inherently political.
@Ineedgames
@Ineedgames Жыл бұрын
It's funny when people say "Gundam went woke" with Witch from Mercury. When the series started with a nation just escalating their own fuck ups.
@jack90054
@jack90054 Жыл бұрын
Gundam is fundementally about war (anti-war to be exact), and war is by nature EXTREMELY political
@MellowSquash
@MellowSquash Жыл бұрын
I think there are two different kinds of critical analyses people do of One Piece: the philosophical/literary themes and the politics. It's easy to get lost in one or the other as I don't know if Hasan mentioned anything about the more personal parts of One Piece's writing like the tropes of found family, the romance of pursuing one's dreams, and of course the importance of relationships and connecting with people. I don't blame the two for losing track of the political undertones of OP because it is not as blatantly in-your-face like modern media portrays it but it is slightly ridiculous to read a manga where the Big Bad is the GOVERNMENT and think "Wait, this is political?"
@nawab256
@nawab256 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry boys of the trash taste but you ether don’t read / watch one piece or you are lying to yourselves if you don’t think one piece is political. It definitely walks a fine line between a fun journey and politics but it’s definitely political.
@davidgrimaldo2861
@davidgrimaldo2861 Жыл бұрын
Not really a story having some political subtext doesn’t make it political. You can’t tell me that One Piece’s main focus is being political.
@weeecalango2761
@weeecalango2761 Жыл бұрын
youre dellusional. One piece is apolitial. Just because theres a government doesnt mean its political(LOL). Otherwise all works of ficction would be political.
@nawab256
@nawab256 Жыл бұрын
@@weeecalango2761 bro all shows walk a fine line of politics but one piece definitely takes part in it whether it likes it or not. now is it the main point? probably not, but it also cant help being political when every bad guy takes form in politics one way or another. the rich keeping down the poor through high hierarchy, fishmen being second class citizens, liberation of countries and lets not forget luffys awakened form being the power of complete freedom. he's a physical form of liberation.
@weeecalango2761
@weeecalango2761 Жыл бұрын
@@nawab256 freedom is political? Yet every side of the political spectrum claims to fight for freedom? The powerfull stroking down on the powerless on a fictional world is not politics unless you can trace paralels with real world entities and fit it into a political narrarive. Its fiction. If you cant read it as fiction it is your problem. One piece doesnt stand for any political position, therefore its not political, even if you say it has topics one would consider political, like 'government', 'war' , 'racial discrimination', these words doesnt make the work inherently political, its just part of the worldbuilding, and it would be very hard go make a story as big as one piece, without EVER citing a government organization, difference between races(especially when theyre so different like in OP). So, One piece is certainly not trying to convey political values, because the story lets you side with whoever you want(keep in mind most marines are good guys). And if your definition of a story being political is just if it involves any topic that could be considered political, then its alright, but i fail to see how it would not make every story ever made as political as it could get, so it would be absolute pleonasm to say OP is political
@Purpletrident
@Purpletrident Жыл бұрын
Weebs and gamers are the last people I expect to understand when something is political, to be fair. Especially when it's only political to them when there's a gay or black person lol.
@cinnamonroll96
@cinnamonroll96 Жыл бұрын
i'm confused do you mean ppl that only think something is political when they see how other ppl advocate for black ppl and queer ppl etc. and then say "oh why do you all need to make it political?" or do you mean the ppl that advocate for black ppl and queer ppl. if it is latter i can assure you, those ppl, we def. know about how op is political. how it talks about corrupt governments, how it shows classism and racism on a structural and systemic level, how something as big of a crime like eradicating history and the whole island of ppl who educate themselves on it pose the biggest threats for the few white rich men that sit on top of the food chain. how media, censoring and stuff are in the story and change the outview of all the civilians about the things that are happening aroung the world and the pirates. etc.etc. like i would worry more about the ppl who make it their whole mission to discuss powerscaling. those are the ones that often time lack the understanding, bc it only becomes political to them the second someone tries to advocate for black ppl, queer ppl, women etc. aka they complain about those ppl that advocate bc they neither see how that is political nor how other topics are political. whilst those other ppl advocate for the rights of marginalized groups which means they not only care about black, gay ppl etc. but also advocate against classism, corruption, etc. etc.
@Ineedgames
@Ineedgames Жыл бұрын
@@cinnamonroll96 He's talking about anti-sjw's, who never realised StarWars was always political and that it was made because Gorge Lucas hated far right politics.
@lifeline_
@lifeline_ Жыл бұрын
... most of them only care when it's forced for political reasons. There's a difference between it being a side note and their entire character...
@lifeline_
@lifeline_ Жыл бұрын
@@Ineedgames authoritarianism and racism, which are not exclusive to the far right...
@Ineedgames
@Ineedgames Жыл бұрын
@@lifeline_ Starwars was created for political reasons. Forced to them is Woman, and non-whites.
@shoottodeath8404
@shoottodeath8404 7 ай бұрын
luffy literally shares a birthday with karl marx
@amarog_stone
@amarog_stone Жыл бұрын
Bro there’s a reason why Luffy is a character that wears nothing but shorts, a ragged t shirt, sandals and a straw hat (oda actually backed this up) it’s because is really metaphorical that the person that’s going to stand up against a being so supreme as the WORLD GOVERMENT is a guy dressing like a farmer whose power is the ability of changing and do whatever he wants AKA Freedom and all of this cycle’s (warning spoilers manga) into why he’s the reincarnation of the sun god Nika which is actually a Greek god named Nike of o no you guess it FREEDOM
@MrObkung
@MrObkung Жыл бұрын
One piece is VERY political. Power structures, power balance, slavery, rights, minority oppression, freedom fighter. You name it.
@martianpudding9522
@martianpudding9522 Жыл бұрын
One Piece is a show where pirates are the heroes and the navy and the government are the main antagonists, how could that possibly be apolitical lol
@joebro186
@joebro186 Жыл бұрын
I disagree and you're take is no quite correct. One Piece is a story where pirares are the hereos and antagonists but where navy and WC officials can be the hereos and antagonists as well. Coby, Aokiji, Smoker and Big Mom, Kaido, Black Beard (as the main antagonist from the pirates perspective) just to name a few..
@lancevance6346
@lancevance6346 Жыл бұрын
The main antagonists is a literal Alex Jones conspiracy lol. Except in OP it is real.
@weeecalango2761
@weeecalango2761 Жыл бұрын
Bro you failed so hard, the main villains are still pirates, Kaidou, Big mom and Black Beard . And the marines have a lot of corruption but also many of them are heroes and just doing the right thing, mainly Coby Garp and Smoker.
@joebro186
@joebro186 Жыл бұрын
@@weeecalango2761 That's what makes the story so appealing. You can't even say that the pirates are the *main* antagonists. One of the main themes/goal of the story is to bring dawn to the world and the world government is soley responsible that we're at this point. Sakazuki killed the main characters brother and commited genozide to a bunch of civillians. I can't think of one pirate so far that has done something nearly as horrible. You can make the point that Imu is going to be *one* of the main antagonists of the whole story. I think the main point is that there are good and bad on both sides.
@weeecalango2761
@weeecalango2761 Жыл бұрын
@@joebro186 yea but like, i legit think Kaidou was the worse one up to now. I fail to see how Akainu is even close to Kaidou in terms of being a bad person. But yea the point is that is good and evil on both sides.
@autogeneratedmusicvideosdalle
@autogeneratedmusicvideosdalle Жыл бұрын
One Piece is one of those anime that can be just as goofy and kid friendly as you want it to be, and also as deeply political and historical as you want it to be.
@1020percent
@1020percent Жыл бұрын
Those who say, not argue, that one piece isn’t political have negative reading comprehension skills. I understand if you only view any medium in the most superficial way possible that’s cool, but you will be missing out on so much more. The deeper stuff is why so many hold one piece as one of, if not, the peak of manga.
@justaway6901
@justaway6901 Жыл бұрын
There's a great video by Mr. Morj on his channel about the Philosophy of One Piece. I bet Joey and Garnt would need that
@corrinflakes9659
@corrinflakes9659 Жыл бұрын
Garnt has something cooking about people in Japan liking Dio more because of his eccentric personality. For America, is it any wonder why in Breaking Bad that Gus Fring is considered the best antagonist there, he’s of few words, and holds himself professionally, he stands out from the eccentric drug dealers around him. Both are charismatic, but have the most polar opposite energies.
@bearpawzz
@bearpawzz Жыл бұрын
Lol I honestly couldn't believe how much the boys were surprised that One Piece was political. It's so obvious and in my opinion, what makes One Piece and Oda's writing so great.
@BehindTheMustche
@BehindTheMustche Жыл бұрын
Literally every single arc is 100% political. Even Long Ring Long Island has political undertones. Essentially it’s about how private groups/entities find ways to conspire and steal personal/IPs from other groups to gain more personal power. The only one where there wouldn’t be much of a case intially is Reverse Mountain, BUT it could be argued in retrospect Crocus is still aiding his private group find a successor to their previous poltocal/socioeconomic goals with Luffy
@ajiththomas2465
@ajiththomas2465 Жыл бұрын
I know, right? One Piece is obviously political in a substantial sense, not a stylistic sense. All it takes is too look at the allusions and references. Luffy's father Monkey D. Dragon is the leader of the Revolutionary Army, his ship is named Granma, the same name as Fidel Castro's shop, and his birthday is October 8, the same date of the October Revolution. Not only that but having a framed portrait of Che Guevara on your wall is quite a lot different from having a Che Guevara T-shirt. Another is the Gorosei/Five Elders who are at the near top of the World Government. All 5 of them are visually based on important political leaders from history, namely: Itagaki Taisuke, Abraham Lincoln, Mikhail Gorbachev, Mahatma Gandhi, and Giuseppe Garibaldi (often erroneously confused for Karl Marx by other OP fans). One Piece is plenty political not simply in stylistic choices but also in substance. Its just wild that the Trash Taste boys are missing it, especially when 2 of them also focus on media analysis. Do you get what I mean?
@weeecalango2761
@weeecalango2761 Жыл бұрын
i hate to say this but you literally have to touch grass
@tenkenroo
@tenkenroo 8 ай бұрын
The thing I like about one pieces politics is that it engages in them realistically. Balance of power, racial hierarchies that are enforced by fascist dictatorships, racism. It’s incredibly well written
@t.b.cont.
@t.b.cont. 9 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t say luffy was a leftist, or that oda is either. He’s an individualist and anti-authoritarian, but other than that there’s really nothing that points to luffy or oda to either left or right. Liberty isn’t an inherently left leaning trait. One piece’s whole ideology is to do what you want to do, regardless of what anyone else wants, and this sort of individualism is inherently against any sort of collectivist ideology that seeks to unify people under a single belief or rule.
@petre1758
@petre1758 Ай бұрын
"This is an anime about freedom" "It's not political" lol
@toastycarp
@toastycarp Жыл бұрын
I think there is a misunderstanding here. Any story that deals with governments or power shifts between multiple bodies will always be inherently political. But to say the focus of one piece is political is just wrong. One Piece has political aspects throughout it’s entirety but it’s main focus is philosophical. It would not make sense to constrain the study of story to a smaller field like politics when it is only a subset of philosophy. So if we’re really labeling things One Piece is philosophical.
@giovannigonzalez6349
@giovannigonzalez6349 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t take some deep analysis and rewatching of the entire show to see that. It’s all right there
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo 7 ай бұрын
It's true. I mean, every arc from Alabasta onwards is about the Straw Hats liberating a kingdom from whatever pirate crew or faction of Marines is oppressing said kingdom.
@PaulM68322
@PaulM68322 Жыл бұрын
How could you watch one piece and not think its political? 😅 Apart from everything that was already mentioned there was a whole flashback Arc centered around voting and political assassinations 😅
@potateees
@potateees 4 ай бұрын
why do they keep laughing as if anything hasan says is a joke?? how can you watch one piece and not think it's political ? lol mustve watched with their eyes closed
@BiPolarUrsus
@BiPolarUrsus Жыл бұрын
One Piece isn't that deep. So its surprising that people miss the message so much. Oda is slapping you in the face with its message and people brains only see "rubber man go, gum gum no" Its like watching John Wick, and being confused on why he was so mad that they killed his dog.
@TheCandyGamingChannel
@TheCandyGamingChannel Жыл бұрын
Very relatable point lmao
@PandaDonG
@PandaDonG Жыл бұрын
It’s really not, but I think people assume it’s waaay simpler than it actually is, due to the 4kids dub and how simple/cartoonish it looks
@LuznoLindo
@LuznoLindo 7 ай бұрын
One Piece is _very_ deep, so I don't know where you got that from. It's not Game of Thrones deep, no, but you mustn't have been paying attention if you think there isn't a complexity to how the story of One Piece goes.
@wrennouzen6247
@wrennouzen6247 11 ай бұрын
lmao, they are looking more clowns as one piece continues (1,086 as of now)
@kristol569
@kristol569 11 ай бұрын
I can unterstand getting through the pre time-skip half of One Piece and thinking it isn't political at all, but how do you get to fisher tiger's and otohime's backstories and not think that it has any political implications?
@abdurrahmanqureshi3030
@abdurrahmanqureshi3030 Ай бұрын
Fishman island isnt as leftist as it seems. Otohime is the royal monarch of the nation and luffy defends a rebellion against her. That isnt very lefty
@Ineedgames
@Ineedgames Жыл бұрын
Most anime are very political. One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, are actually very political. One Piece: Extremism is bad. Naruto: Anti-war propaganda Bleach: Corrupted Justice system (Hallow's are a metaphor for judging someone's actions after a bad point in life, and why Quincies want to absolutely destroy them for things out of their control). and don't get started on Fullmetal Alchemist, and Attack on Titan.
@Twiska
@Twiska Жыл бұрын
I think having good world-building requires you to get polictal.
@jasonjones3328
@jasonjones3328 Жыл бұрын
Yeah shounen especially is super political if you look at it
@Dr._Atom
@Dr._Atom Жыл бұрын
You clearly made up that Bleach political element lol, no one thinks so and it's very much forced 😅
@Ineedgames
@Ineedgames Жыл бұрын
@@Dr._Atom lol. You only say that because you think Bleach is a dumb action show. Totally Not Mark made a good on this in his Bleach review. Soul Reapers are basically judges. Rukia even says this when that one Hollow goes straight to hell for crimes committed when he was alive. The whole society arc is even revolved around Rukia breaking the law. With her own Brother putting politics above his family. That's like the whole theme of the arc. Kids fighting against stupid laws and politics.
@jasonjones3328
@jasonjones3328 Жыл бұрын
@@Dr._Atom I mean like the whole point throughout the series was that the Soul Reapers had an immensely flawed system
@edsonvitorino2965
@edsonvitorino2965 Жыл бұрын
the coping of these guys goes crazy lol
@denizkaragullu6239
@denizkaragullu6239 10 ай бұрын
How do you watch Fishman Island arc, Skypeia arc and Enies Lobby arc then come out to say One Piece isn't political. Protagonist's father is the head of the revolutionary army ffs
@MasterBeast46
@MasterBeast46 10 ай бұрын
One Piece is political in the same way Game of Thrones is political. They both involve political tension/conflict/drama between a multitude of factions and politities. That's basically a universal concept in most forms of fictional storytelling. Hell, you could say that Modern Warfare 2 (the OG one) is also political because it also features conflict between multiple political entities. What I don't like however is people (specifically Hasan) saying that Oda is a "leftist" because he's against racism and slavery or that the main characters are anti-authoritarian "revolutionaries". Like no fucking shit he's against that, so is the vast majority of Western Civilization, you aren't exactly Karl Marx or Laiez Faire for making that basic observation. The Founding Fathers were also "revolutionaries" but I highly doubt you'll hear people claim they were communist or Marxist. It's such a brain dead take.
@senatordodo4240
@senatordodo4240 10 ай бұрын
@@MasterBeast46 i mean, id describe "all people should have enough food to eat" (wano), anti authoritarian (world government), anti rich and powerful out of touch leaders (Celestial dragons), ideals of freedom (like, everything), critique of a failing judicial system (water7), commentary on generational hate (fishmen island), putting the power in the hands of the people/workers (drum island), anti privatisation of health care (also drum island) etc. as pretty leftist. Im not 100% in agreement of hasan's take but its definitely more political than other pieces of media
@martianpudding9522
@martianpudding9522 Жыл бұрын
And also pirate ships basically function as communes where people share labor and resources. The strawhats specifically even have one person (nami) in charge of money who gives out allowances to everyone else when they go ashore, presumably the same amount for everyone
@perrywinkle5000
@perrywinkle5000 Жыл бұрын
What you described is also called...a family. Pirate crews are much closer to families than leftist communes.
@Nebraska2002
@Nebraska2002 Жыл бұрын
1. They have a leader 2. Resources are distributed evenly 3. They use currency 4. It functions like a family not a commune 5. They do what luffy says not a majority vote
@thecapitalisticdictator2256
@thecapitalisticdictator2256 Жыл бұрын
​@@perrywinkle5000 nah. Communism is when a group of people share & follow a common set of rules, duuuuuuuuuh
@Zal0vid
@Zal0vid Жыл бұрын
Cringe. Go away
@marcogianesello6083
@marcogianesello6083 Жыл бұрын
Jesus fucking christ the level of reaching
@freakindamnshiki
@freakindamnshiki 4 ай бұрын
nah, if you know the name of fidel's boat, you do need to be a bit of a tankie weeb yes! like it is not something someone just happens to know
@yoclickz353
@yoclickz353 Жыл бұрын
With the amount of success One Piece theory/analysis channels see on this platform, I honestly think that if Hassan caught up to One Piece, gets a solid understanding of every arc and apply the political knowledge he has, he can really go in depth and explain the politics of the One Piece story and that can attract a serious amount of interest and audience.
@Heroism4499
@Heroism4499 Жыл бұрын
I do agree with Hasan that One Piece has a lot of anti-big government stuff (the big bads of the story is the Navy and the World Government) he cherry picks some of his claims. Luffy overthrows a lot of governments (mainly Dressrosa, Alabasta, Wano) but the country is usually under the control over someone who's even more Evil (Doffy, Crocodile, Kaido) and after taking out the current government he always tries to reinstall the true government. Luffy always tries to put the most deserving person on the throne at all costs (King Reku, Cobra, and Momonosuke).
@1020percent
@1020percent Жыл бұрын
I would argue he doesn’t even truly try to put the good leader in, he just wants to square up with the bad. Everything else will happen as it will, in the context of the story it’s always a leader friendly to the straw hats, but Luffy is not selecting the leaders, only aiding them in removing the bad one.
@Heroism4499
@Heroism4499 Жыл бұрын
@@1020percent true. There's like 5 other people on Wano who's a better leader than Momo but he's better than Orochi and Kaido.
@DawnofIsai
@DawnofIsai Жыл бұрын
And who gave Doffy and croc the power and clout to even be able to do such a thing? The world government. They are untouchable by marines/bounty hunters and most pirates are smart enough to avoid Warlords. Even the "good" marines see the problems that warlords cause and how corrupt the system is basically 80% of OP pre 4 emperors saga is about how the Warlords are fucking up the world. Arlong? Freed because Jinbe is a warlord,. Doffy? free to do whatever the fuck he wants bc he's a warlord and former celestial dragon that knows the truth. Croc? also free reign over a world govt country and the major cause of a civil war and drought. Weevil? Just walking around destroying cities. Law? uses his power to get into Punk Hazard a secret government facility. Blackbeard? Only released like 5 level 6 impel down prisoners and now has a former admiral on his crew. What gave these pirates the ability and freedom to do any of this? The protection from marines by the world government. Luffy isn't installing anyone he wanted VIvi to come with him and welcomes momo also. He just cares that there's people doing mean things to his friends or taking food from ppl.
@YightLagami
@YightLagami Жыл бұрын
They are the exception rather than norm. In Dressrosa, Luffy is more so beating up Doflamingo rather than helping King Riku and wanting to help Rebecca/Law. Momonosuke had to prove himself worthy in front of Luffy multiple times to be respected. It's good that the true governments that are placed back in are often the noblest and pure people who care about their citizens the most, but real life, this is much more complicated and mostly untrue for alot of politicians/governments.
@lancevance6346
@lancevance6346 Жыл бұрын
For all that political thing it really does a terrible job at showing the volatility that goes on in a country AFTER a deposed king/leader. Conveniently the original royal family is always good, kind hearted with tragic stories. And always steps up. Luffy doesn't even have to do anything. There is already the "next in line" ready to take over the kingdom.
@tishoostars
@tishoostars 26 күн бұрын
Even if he's totally right, "Luffy Is A Terrorist" is the actual funniest shit ever at face value
@125discipline2
@125discipline2 10 ай бұрын
alabasta arc was very similar to what happened in iraq
@thomasffrench3639
@thomasffrench3639 Жыл бұрын
“We don’t skip parts” -Joey and Garnt “Start with Fate/Zero” -also Joey and Garnt.
@traplover6357
@traplover6357 Жыл бұрын
7:05 My favorite reaction in the whole ep 😭
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 Жыл бұрын
People who like to say that anime and manga aren’t political are people who don’t understand Japanese politics.
@lazcoroner1483
@lazcoroner1483 Жыл бұрын
The problem is you know Hasan isn’t thinking of Japanese politics when he claims something is political.
@Ash_Wen-li
@Ash_Wen-li Жыл бұрын
​@@lazcoroner1483 Yeah calling Oda a straight up Leftist is using a very Western lens
@willpoweramv
@willpoweramv Жыл бұрын
​@@lazcoroner1483 Hasan is ignorant
@youraveragepasser-by7367
@youraveragepasser-by7367 Жыл бұрын
@@willpoweramv id say he's not fully informed on world politics beyond the western lens
@Ineedgames
@Ineedgames Жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of weebs lately trying to say "Japan isn't corrupted by Western ideologies, and all promote far right agenda's, and hates the LGBTQ". Do these bitches not know that Ken Akamatsu (Love Hina, Nagima) is now a liberal politician?
@keepwishin99
@keepwishin99 Жыл бұрын
Kinda pissing me off how they're laughing when he's literally right 😵‍💫 just shows how little they're actually paying attention
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