Is Phantom Venusaur Unobtainable?

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11 ай бұрын

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A technical, behind-the-scenes explanation of Pokemon Trading Card Game's Card Pop!
Huge thanks to the fan-made disassembly of the game, and its main contributors, 33dannye and ElectroDeoxys, for explaining the details to me! github.com/pret/poketcg

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@sombat2788 11 ай бұрын

When you card pop with a player, you've card popped with every player that player has card popped with.

@Ryan-is-me 11 ай бұрын

You might want to get yourself tested

@zedokaiba6047 11 ай бұрын

@@Ryan-is-meyou might wanna pop your cards

@TheZackofSpades 11 ай бұрын

I knew i should’ve popped with protection…

@sombat2788 11 ай бұрын

@@Ryan-is-me Thankfully, no (gl)itches!

@mak_707 11 ай бұрын

Always practice safe card popping!

@bufar 11 ай бұрын

As a kid I remember getting every card but one. Crazy to find out getting the last card was impossible.

@Erhannis 10 ай бұрын

I remember that, too - but I don't remember card popping, so I guess I should have been missing two cards. Was one of the cards included in the total and the other not?

@HarryKoakuma 10 ай бұрын

@@Erhannis Neither one of the Card Pop exclusive cards are included in the total unless you've already obtained them

@Erhannis 10 ай бұрын

@@HarryKoakuma Huh. I wonder what I was missing.

@NeroVingian40 9 ай бұрын

@@ErhannisImakuni, maybe? Idk, man.

@RyuDouro 7 ай бұрын

its not impossible, I have it

@TheZackofSpades 11 ай бұрын

I had the print of that Phantom Venasaur. It was…not a strong card but I still ran it at my local League just to show it off.

@mr.saturn8989 11 ай бұрын

I love how this video gets straight to the point.

@TheFatestPat 11 ай бұрын

Darn, it should have the Mew card that was unobtainable without cheats. That would have been within the spirit of the old gen 1 games.

@firefly1509 11 ай бұрын

This is making me want to get back into the PTCG (and PTCG2) disassembly projects heh, I contributed a bit to the poketcg assembly ages ago and it's really neat to see it being put to use like this!

@nicocchi 11 ай бұрын

Pokémon games and "hindsight is 20/20"-type glitches, name a more iconic duo

@EdwardoFE 11 ай бұрын

Naw man my buddy Bill down the street got Phantom Venusaur legit! He wouldn’t lie to me! Great research. I don’t know how this issue can even be fixed on Nintendo’s end, but it would be nice if there could be some sort of stealth patch to the game to fix this. They really should have just made the cards available some other way starting with the 3DS version’s release anyway.

@BlaqueT 10 ай бұрын

Yes, It's a shame that they couldn't have allowed you to just get the promo cards, as has been done in previous re-releases. They did it for Pokemon Crystal with the Celebi event!

@StarkMaximum 10 ай бұрын

His uncle worked at Nintendoooooo!

@GottZ 8 ай бұрын

i can show that card to you on my original gameboy cartrige. don't mind that "blaze" thing in my room.

@PkmnMstr10 11 ай бұрын

I remember reading articles that I think were on the Pokémon website that played up some printing errors in the Team Rocket expansion as intentional due to the "mischief of Team Rocket" or whatever. Little did I know how numerous were the actual errors as a result of gameplay translation.

@StarkMaximum 10 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, saw a lot of that as a kid. Saw a lot of game manuals call out easily performed glitches and bugs in Mario or Sonic, and describe them as "evil tricks from Bowser/Robotnik", encouraging you to watch out for them. I love to imagine the idea of causing a hard crash that makes you reset the game being a legitimate plot by Robotnik to stop Sonic once and for all.

@ExaltedUriel 3 ай бұрын

@@StarkMaximumHe hated that hedgehog so much he unravelled the fabric of spacetime itself just to end him

@hyperventalated 11 ай бұрын

I'm somewhat of a silent enjoyer of your videos most the time, so i wanted to pop in for once and say your videos are consistently great. Seeing you in my sub box is always very much a treat

@robbowantsadonna 11 ай бұрын

"POP" in....I see what you did there!

@ZackeroniAndCheese 11 ай бұрын

Wow! This is a really excellent video. Love the simplified discussion of the source code

@ProfessorRex 11 ай бұрын

Fascinating!! I absolutely love little oddities in the code like this! Thank you for putting this together!!

@wotwathorigl5446 11 ай бұрын

super interesting!! i was trying to get all cards through card pop at some point and now i get why i seem to not can obtain some cards at all lmao :D

@Klied 11 ай бұрын

I randomly started rewatching your other TCG video today because they released the Pokemon TCG on the GC Emulator on the Switch recently. What great timing~!

@hilariousskullnamedcatzo647 11 ай бұрын

Very cool of Nintendo to actually bring back card pop and not just leave it rotting away

@ConnorJG76 9 ай бұрын

Man your two TCG videos were fantastic and the editing was great. Makes me want to go back and try speed running it again

@Sev_Henry 11 ай бұрын

Heya! I reached out to you on Twitter about this exact issue the other day, and mentioned my discord group had looked into the code to see what the issue is. Like you said, it seems there's no legitimate way to get the Phantom Venusaur, but we're now looking into possibly exploiting some sort of ACE to try to add the card to inventory. We've even put up a $300 bounty on anyone who can find/come up with a glitch/method to do exactly this. It doesn't seem like Nintendo will bother fixing this issue themselves.

@nickstuimlucamatef399 11 ай бұрын

Why would Nintendo fix this? It’s for the gameboy

@RunicSigils 11 ай бұрын

@@nickstuimlucamatef399that's just as dumb a question. The real question is "Why would Nintendo fix this? They didn't develop it." When you're re-releasing something (which this has been twice now including on their modern system) it is perfectly possible to make modifications. Even lazy ass Game Freak did so with the Gen 1 and 2 games and updated it to work with wireless communication which was not a thing the games did until late Gen 3. While someone else could do it, it makes more sense if the actual original dev is making the changes and the problem here is that Hudson Soft is no longer in business. Now granted technically that means Konami, who bought them out, likely has the ability to do so but it's also Konami who doesn't even let you transfer their own game save files on the Switch, they're so cheap and lazy.

@lilwoodiewood3457 11 ай бұрын

Thats no thing 300$ ... that's nonthing .. nobody with programmer skill is working for that little atleast anybody with a brain ...

@Sev_Henry 11 ай бұрын

@@lilwoodiewood3457 i wasn't the one who suggested the price. Another user apparently checked a speedrunning sight that also offered bug bounties, and came back with that figure.

@Sev_Henry 11 ай бұрын

@@RunicSigils ah, good ol' "We lost the source code to Silent Hill 2" Konami. Always reliable.

@bravebiird 11 ай бұрын

absolutely love your videos so far it's also making me want to give the sequel a shot after i beat the first on NSO! it's a shame we never got more game adaptations like this, i really enjoy the pokemon card game but on a strictly casual level

@HybridAngelZero 11 ай бұрын

I could have swore I got that Venusaur card as a kid. Pretty much everyone I hung out with in school had this game, so a lot of Popping was on the table. I'm probably just Madella Effect-ing myself, though

@Skasaha_ 11 ай бұрын

I have a weird memory of Nintendo handing it out like they did Mew and Celebi back in the day, but my old save file doesn't have it and I can't find any record of it ever happening online either so I guess I'm getting Mandela'd as well lol.

@HybridAngelZero 11 ай бұрын

@@Skasaha_ Sadly, my school-age copy of the game was stolen, so I can't even go back and check 😭

@Kteeep 11 ай бұрын

Finally a new video! I love your channel

@Nmethyltransferase 11 ай бұрын

"Wait... Nintendo wants me to cheat? >>>"Always has."

@DaAmazinStaplr 11 ай бұрын

Seeing as how Nintendo never even fixed the Advanced Store in Oracle of Ages and Seasons, I don't think they'll get around to fixing this.

@bewearstar9462 11 ай бұрын

What do you mean by that?

@DaAmazinStaplr 11 ай бұрын

@@bewearstar9462 There are 2 specialty shops in Ages and Seasons that are known as the Advance Shops. The only way to access them is if you play Ages and Seasons in a GBA, they're locked with a closed door on GBC hardware. You can buy a special Advanced Ring and some Gasha seeds when you go to these shops, but Nintendo never unlocked the doors for eshop owners. It's the same for the 3DS versions as well. The only way you can get a 100% ring collection is by looking up a ring password online unless you happen to have a cartridge and port your password from that.

@ExaltedUriel 3 ай бұрын

@@bewearstar9462I think they're just referring to the fact that in the modern Virtual Console and NSO versions of the Oracle games, the Advance Shop is completely inaccessible because they both run the game emulating it on a GameBoy Color instead of a GameBoy Advance.

@devoniandoctor 10 ай бұрын

Hey man. I just wanted to say that I have been binge-watching your videos the best few days and I have loved every single one. The content you produce is really high-quality and it is noticable how much effort you put into each and every video. I really hope you keep up the good work!

@lunalaur 10 ай бұрын

Oh Damn I was streaming this and thought about trying the down A glitch!! Good to know it does actually work in the switch version. Greats vids!

@richardm5664 11 ай бұрын

I had the Venusaur back in the day but only through using an Xploder cheat cartridge to get it (and the Mew). Never knew anybody else with the game so Card Pop was never an option for me.

@afatblft93 9 ай бұрын

waiting patiently for another video... because i truly enjoy your content.

@justsomejojo 11 ай бұрын

I have European versions of the game so now I know why Down + A doesn't work. Nice! I'm actually currently in the process of slowly grinding up the chips in GB2 to get the phantom cards, because I want a 100% save on there. I didn't actually know these two are phantom cards, so I could probably just leave them for last, since at least in the first game, they don't show up as missing in the menu's card total. Grinding those 2000 points takes quite a while...

@PhantomDusclops92 11 ай бұрын

I tried it yesterday and the game just froze. I thought they decided to fix that one glitch for the Switch Online version but it was because I played European version.

@Br0oham 10 ай бұрын

Not sure if the Aus copies are any different but Down+A works in our version. Maybe 1 out of 100 times it'll freeze, but otherwise it works perfectly fine

@AllTimeScary 11 ай бұрын

A new video, let’s goooo!

@BillehBawb 11 ай бұрын

sending your temu code out to as many people as possible rn

@BlaqueT 10 ай бұрын

Wow the algorithm just randomly sent me to you, and I'm glad it did! Looks like you have some cool videos and ideas coming out, you've earned a subscriber! 😊

@IsuKen 10 ай бұрын

This game was such a huge part of my childhood, maybe even more so than the mainline games. I remember spending an entire summer at my grandparents house playing this game every day. I didn't know anything about deck building back then, so I just went through the majority of the game using mostly the deck I started with, only adjusting a few things like adding potions and swapping mons in and out depending on the gym. Magnemite and Ponyta lines were pretty much my go to, now looking back I'm convinced I only beat the grandmasters by some insane stroke of luck, cause it sure wasn't skill or game knowledge. XD

@TalysAlankil 10 ай бұрын

oh, early pokémon, never cease to amaze with its ability to run completely insane math that doesn't even do what it should

@MaxAim 11 ай бұрын

Your channel is so underrated (for now)

@justjosh8869 11 ай бұрын

Bruhhhhh i just randomly found your last video and then you upload the part 2 minutes later 😂

@FirebrandArremer 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video, it was great!

@jr8972686 10 ай бұрын

Off-topic but I really enjoyed the opening section's music being from Kirby's Adventure

@TheMono313 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your interesting videos !

@chalkeygarvin8496 10 ай бұрын

Does anyone know of a Card Pop discord server or something else where people collaborate to get the phantom cards?

@BriskWalkZombie 11 ай бұрын

Babe wake up, new DeltaSeeker dropped!!!

@angelwing9 11 ай бұрын

The ending lmaooo

@RednekGamurz 11 ай бұрын

Lmao, that's actually a really funny goofup on their end.

@dean9472 11 ай бұрын

Oh damn, never knew this. I card popped a bunch with friend making new games to try for them too. However I did have one of the cheat devices that let you write custom AR codes while in game, and figured out how to give myself the cards eventually, so it's crazy to now learn it wasn't even possible and I was one of the few people who ever got to play the original with the card.

@datsleepyboied9946 11 ай бұрын

I got one, my uncle from Nintendo got it for me

@HyperfixationWizard 5 ай бұрын

So much spaghetti code for a random chance generatior that ultimately interjects itself. No wonder phantom Venisaur was unobtainable. lol

@ammy_baba9609 11 ай бұрын

justice for phantom venusaur.

@TechnoProductions11 11 ай бұрын

Pokémon Is Cool.

@Codemanny 11 ай бұрын

Damn straight man.

@andrewsingsthehymns9567 11 ай бұрын

FACTS

@Princelet_ 11 ай бұрын

I've had success with the down A glitch in the European version. It makes me have to mash B a few times in a short menu loop sometimes (always ending up back in battle if it doesn't work) but hasn't caused a single crash.

@takenname8053 11 ай бұрын

SUPER NICE, Never played the game before

@DeathComesQuick666 10 ай бұрын

As a kid, i used to Card Pop all the time by using the TV remotes... yes, it did work.

@wjs5875 11 ай бұрын

Even Venusaur looks surprised

@infinitesquarez 11 ай бұрын

5:12 As someone who used to play on a PAL version of the game this was honestly like a trigger. So many bad memories of my game crashing came flooding back - I always thought it was because my GB was faulty or something.

@areaxisthegurkha 8 ай бұрын

Hi, i really like your videos. I was wondering if youll do a TCG2 secrets video?

@bryancole4022 10 ай бұрын

Might be my Mandela effect speaking but I swear I've obtained this card as a kid lol

@mikemath9508 11 ай бұрын

i vaguely remember wanting to make a "starter deck" back when playing this but never did because i''d never found a venusaur, and thus never used bulbasaur or ivysaur (i was a purist as a kid)

@psymar 10 ай бұрын

You can still get the normal venusaur, even without card pop. It's only the phantom promo one that this video is about.

@yugiiscool1238 10 ай бұрын

Didn’t even know this game got rereleased on switch! That’s pretty cool

@17blaziken 11 ай бұрын

@deltaseeker i got the Mew promo via the in-game tournament after beating the league. I was always wondered how to unlock the venosaur, guess that card popping would not solve it lol

@AzraelThanatos 11 ай бұрын

If I remember right, phantom Venusaur was not intended to be a available through normal play. It was something that they had special promo versions made that could card pop at events in order to get it. I believe there were a few people I knew who got them there, but I don't know for sure.

@robertcrist6059 11 ай бұрын

Not on topic, but my question I was hoping to get answered is: Can we expect/alter our chances of the rare card we get from the packs? I'm missing Nidoking from Evolution and Zapdos and Dragonite from Mystery. I felt one time after I beat the grand masters, when I battle someone who will give out a pack which could hold the missing card(s) I need they gave me one; for example I was previously missing Dragoinare from Mystery set and right after beating the grand masters I batteled someone who I knew gave out a Mystery pack, and they gave me the missing card. Probably coincidence, but wanted to know if there are any legit ways (not hacks) to know how to better your odds at geting the cards you still need. 1 Evo, 2 Mys, 4 Promo, 2 Phantom.

@X23SSaviourGundam 11 ай бұрын

That Psyduck is me trying to follow this video

@ShortRacoon 11 ай бұрын

Yeah i tried it on my european copy. I was using a gameboy pocket so i tought maybe i just needed to use a gameboy color

@gligarguy4010 11 ай бұрын

I just started playing the TCG game again on NSO, its such a nostalgia trip

@ashmander3465 10 ай бұрын

God i need both cards. Maybe if the sequel appears they can jury-rig it to let you get the 2 phantoms from them in to the first game

@JohnnyD-ho7qt 8 ай бұрын

You can’t unfortunately - would be cool to trade but it can’t be done

@christmaldonado89 11 ай бұрын

I got all cards except probably 2... Also i was at the doctors once as a kid and i actually met a kid to card pop with but it wasnt good but ehhh well

@Neogeddon 11 ай бұрын

bUt I HaD pHAnToM VenUsAuR nah im kiddin from what i heard, the GBC emulator on the switch supports lua scripts (i.e. on-the-fly ROM patching) but i haven't heard of this issue getting fixed specifically. Stadium got some sort of graphical rendering update(??) so they ARE using the feature, but, who knows lol

@chainswordcs 11 ай бұрын

many of nintendo's emulators for virtual console stuff support game patches, yeah. it might be more trouble than it's worth to fix though, of course.

@TemperedMedia 8 ай бұрын

F in the chat because I gave away my copy of the first one... and never knew about the sequel!

@StarzGecko 10 ай бұрын

Surprise there hasn't been like a fan or Nintendo patch to fix that issue yet.

@TylerSteven9 10 ай бұрын

I'm surprised this isn't listed on TCRF. Usually they list things like this.

@bryancole4022 10 ай бұрын

1M likes...you tryna compete with Gangnam Style 😂😂

@Whitepawprint 8 ай бұрын

Love this! I wonder if anyone will make a patched Rom that fixes this, haha

@violetstarsign 10 ай бұрын

This is ludicrously depressing. I wanted the Phantom Venusaur so bad, because it leads to a hilarious deck--you run Venusaur Lv64 on the bench, then Vileplume as your active Pokemon, and you just use the Solar Power ability from the bench to clear the confusion. Alas, it can never be done :(

@gwolfyy2572 Ай бұрын

Still playing on gameboy gonna have to get the ganeshsrk😂 for them cards 😅

@ProfJayBee 11 ай бұрын

This is amazing. Thanks for working all this out and telling us. Whoever first conceived that method should be tried for psy-ops war crimes. 😅

@juanzurita639 10 ай бұрын

I can't pull the down+A ... It goes into my cards in play and it bugs as I can't get out: pressing B will get out of my cards and automatically go into them again

@MazterP28 11 ай бұрын

#nintendo you have to look at this video

@kaisershipyards 11 ай бұрын

So how do i card pop on the Switch version?

@mewtwo7778 11 ай бұрын

U go to play online on game selection screen , invite ur friend to your game session load up the game and u both hit card pop hit a and viola

@ChichimonLeagues 11 ай бұрын

Are we able to do multiplayer card battles via the switch gameboy emulator? Because if so I have some collecting to do.

@isbragg 10 ай бұрын

Yes. All communication features work on the Switch version via online and local wireless. Keep in mind that online play is in private friends only rooms only. There are no public lobbies or random matchmaking.

@frankyzlol3257 10 ай бұрын

Hope they added Pokemon TCG 2 at Nintendo Switch ver, but lookslike not gonna be there lol

@SilentVinyl 11 ай бұрын

Rip venu

@TheCouncil-zg4vp 8 ай бұрын

@BlueBoyPhin sounds like an obscure Pokemon fact to me

@dvdplayer-2038 11 ай бұрын

One day they’ll fix it… Maybe…

@babysinclairfan 11 ай бұрын

Phantom Venusaur is totally obtainable! *Pops in GameShark*

@TheSaxRunner05 11 ай бұрын

Is there a discord or something where people can meet to card pop?

@mewtwo7778 11 ай бұрын

Yes there is actually:)

@milcac3626 11 ай бұрын

I got kt first try in the european / german Version.

@FaniboyxD 10 ай бұрын

is there a way to get the venusaur in the switch version? ACE?

@DigiEggz 10 ай бұрын

Are there any feasible ways to glitch the card into your inventory?

@SnepperStepTV 11 ай бұрын

Fix phantom venasaur and also port the 2nd trading card game to english GBC. Anybody know why the save file will sometimes erase itself?

@yiweiwang8898 11 ай бұрын

Does the glitch still exist? I tried on my switch, I couldn’t get it to work

@Alchemistake 11 ай бұрын

is there anything new with nso versions?

@Argroh 10 ай бұрын

do ye think people have saved the pokemon TCG GBC web site flash animation tutorials from back when?

@TarikA 10 ай бұрын

@DeltaSeeker: So... how can I obtain it?

@alaraplatt8104 11 ай бұрын

LOL thats what happens when you try to get too fancy with it. oh i'll subtract this guys name from this guys name, dont forget to carry the invisible id no

@SgvSth 10 ай бұрын

So which card is unobtainable in TCG2?

@Dwarkus 11 ай бұрын

All cards are obtainable. All promos (including the phantom cards) become available as prizes in the tournament after beating the game. All you have to do is find and duel Imakuni 3 times and the tourney opens back up with a random promo as the prize. Either that or my cart was glitched.

@djhowell5273 11 ай бұрын

I'm gonna try this in a few days when I beat the game

@Dwarkus 11 ай бұрын

@djhowell5273 your mileage may vary I haven't touched the game since release but I do know I had 4 of every card. It's possible that you have win the matches with Imakuni and you might have duel him 4 times.

@PkmnMstr10 11 ай бұрын

I can tell you based on the hours I put into that game and the thousands of cards I collected that is definitely not true 😂

@jesushuerta4379 10 ай бұрын

@@PkmnMstr10 I can also back this up, I've spent hours doing the tournaments after the endgame and all it gives are promos, not phantom card.

@jhite1230 10 ай бұрын

@@PkmnMstr10Actually, they might be right. My old save has exactly 1 Phantom Venusaur, and I didn't have any friends to Card Pop with, and didn't have access to a cheat device. It could have been a tournament reward