Is Porsche's Cheapest GT Car Just a Parts-Bin Special?

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Жыл бұрын

The 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 gets some complaints. Its gearing is too tall. It should have gotten the GT3 motor. It's not a "true" GT car. But this isn't some parts-bin wannabe. It's easily one of the best sports cars Porsche ever made, in part because it's the only GT car you can still buy for under $100K.
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@smiaaron Жыл бұрын

I’ve had a GT3 and a GT4 on the track, and there’s no question I would pick the GT4 for my own car. It may give away a bit in raw speed but the chassis dynamics in the GT4 are really something special.

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

I think of the Germans being so clinical and precise, it's amazing to me how that translates to such an emotional driving experience.

@TheWolfMatt Жыл бұрын

Very smooth on the track bud, well done. I was kind of hoping to see you try and chase it down in your C6 Z06 but perhaps next time. That GT4 is something special as I had one keep up with me in my 17 ZL1 Camaro around Willow Springs, we traded spots a few times and ended up posting similar laptimes which is crazy since I had double the power he did. Got a sub from me for this one, well put together vid bud. Thanks for posting.

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome Matt, thanks!

@993mike Жыл бұрын

I had an almost identical car for 7 years since new, and it was great, with the exception of it having carbon buckets and Cup 2 tires. Also did the RSS adjustable rear toe links and front thrust arm bushings, and then went 2.5 degrees front and 2 degrees rear camber. So much fun. Was right on the cusp of doing the transmission change to shorter 2-5 gears when I good friend decided to sell his 2K mile 991.2 GT3 with pdk, buckets and PCCB’s, and that engine & transmission combo is just soo good that I had to make the change. The original plan was a GT4RS that I put a deposit down on, but not with the obscene dealer markup being charged on those

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

I've had the pleasure of driving the same car on Cup 2 tires now and it's amazing how much track tires change the character of the car in terms of handling. Such a joy. I honestly didn't notice the gearing being an issue on the track but I've never driven one of these on the street. What made you so eager to consider the gearing change? I assume that's a pretty pricey undertaking? I've driven the 991.2 GT3 RS a fair bit now and it's an unbelievable car. Congrats! I'd love to try a GT4 RS at some point...

@sanzserif Жыл бұрын

Great vid man. The gearing chatter is interesting. Having driven a range of Porsches, I can say this that is consistent and sometimes even worse in the 911. Never thought it was an issue in the GT4 especially since it has a nice power band from 4k up.

@charleslu7044 9 ай бұрын

The gear ‘rattle’ is predominant with lightweight single mass flywheels. I had a AASCO LWF installed and loved the quick revs.

@gahlhunter Жыл бұрын

Great video and super smooth driving 🤘🤘

@minimcewen Жыл бұрын

Great video. Own a 981 GT4, had a 16 Cayman and several other 911's. Parts bin = GTS models. GT4 is not a Cayman, it's just a platform, the car is unique in it's own right. Too many differences to Cayman to label it just that but it's gotta have a name and it looks like a Cayman so there ya go. Not sure on the production numbers, I've looked at them all too...just seems much, much easier to find GT3's everywhere vs GT4's. Just don't see them that often.

@clu4u Жыл бұрын

My parts bin 981 Spyder has the 9A1 engine from the 911S, steering rack from the911 turbo and PCCBs

@eromain37 Жыл бұрын

and another great video Josh! Always like the GT4 and there is something about those cars made in 2016 :)

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

2016 was an excellent vintage for sports cars!

@Shawnrraines Жыл бұрын

Shopping around for one right now, great informative video! Subbed

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Really love that car. Hope you find a nice one.

@timburton1080 Жыл бұрын

Nice video! Just bought a 981 GT4 clubsport, getting the FD shortened with a lightweight flywheel

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

Congrats! Clubsport must be a ton of fun.

@metzgerf16 Жыл бұрын

I agree with Hunter. There's nothing wrong with 'parts bin' when it's a damn good parts bin. Didn't see any issues with gearing when you were driving. A friend of mine pushed the Cayman pretty hard when I was car shopping, and I do really want a Porsche. But it's hard to beat the GM options for the money.

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

I'm sure budget is the top consideration for 95% of sports car shoppers and it's hard to beat a Chevy in that regard, especially if most of your driving will be on the street. I'm curious where my new C6Z is going to be with some focused mods. Gotta be honest, I'm seriously considering selling the Turbo, getting a 981 GT4 as my "nice" occasional track use car, and using the leftover cash to turn the Z into a dedicated time-attack project. Maybe I'll come to my senses but I can't stop thinking about that GT4!! I think I need to try a 996 GT3 before I make any decisions.

@bradjack7734 Жыл бұрын

It is a bit tall

@darrenprior6339 Жыл бұрын

That has to be the best looking GT4 I've ever seen. Magnificent

@adrianleek7211 Жыл бұрын

Great video. What a car. Are you sure they made 6,300 981 GT4’s? Is that correct? I’ve read it’s more like 2,500 worldwide as you state in the vid. Where does the 6,300 come from? Would be interested to know as a 981 GT4 owner.

@Redducati1199 6 ай бұрын

2500 981 GT4, should make them a bit more desirable long term

@Juzz_Vibes 2 ай бұрын

Can you turn rev match off in sports mode?

@gabem8119 Жыл бұрын

@Josh Van Veld’s Racing Mind cool vid! Don’t know much about the cayman’s, learned more about them from your vid and from my AX last weekend. My instructor races one. While watching your racing lines I noticed the track markers by the edge of the track. I feel they’d be really helpful for those learning that track. Don’t think most track have markers like that.

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

Thanks! They are helpful although you don’t want to rely on the placement too much because it might not be the ideal line and it can change from car to car. Also I found out that if somebody takes them out in a race and you were relying on them you are suddenly in a bad spot 😅 For sure they’re great for learning.

@ky7037 Жыл бұрын

People were sleeping on these when they were selling in the $80s in winter ‘22 hoping to snatch these for the low. Now they’re climbing back up

@junjin18182028 27 күн бұрын

They never hit that low unless you're looking at high mileage car tho

@themafree1105 Жыл бұрын

hello from France, very interesting video Thanks you for your feedback !

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

Hello! Thanks for watching!

@cayman9815 Жыл бұрын

wow that looks a great track ! and off course the car also 🙂

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

Really well-suited to that car. Very technical. I can't count how many laps I've done out there and I haven't gotten bored yet 😀

@CodeBlueNurburgringAtom Жыл бұрын

Great video! As always, Porsche’s GT cars are the ultimate in great track cars that can still be driven on the street reliably and comfortably.

@twinturbo1995 Жыл бұрын

Cant find these cars under a 100K anymore great cars but expensive..You could probably get a GT350R or even a C6 Zr1 for way under

@ky7037 Жыл бұрын

A couple sold in the $80-90k range on bring a trailer a couple months back

@twinturbo1995 Жыл бұрын

@@ky7037 try finding that now lol

@ky7037 Жыл бұрын

@@twinturbo1995 oh yeah. That time window has come and gone. Still a lot of people wanting to buy in for that cheap but I think they’re too late to the game

@JerryCecco Жыл бұрын

I like Porsches too except for the price, cost of maintenance and on track speed vs Z06

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

Same here. I'm willing to put up with a lot of downsides if it means I can save $50K. If budget is unlimited, you get the best of the best, but that's not realistic for most of us. I think I can put around $10K in upgrades on my stock C6Z and mop the floor with a lot of more expensive cars in terms of lap times. Then again, some people put lap times way lower on their priority list than I do 😀

@pinkwheels3 Жыл бұрын

@@JoshVanVeld You just need a poor-person Porsche, aka 86/BRZ twin. Cheap fun with toyota budget maintenance costs.

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

@@pinkwheels3 A HIGHLY tempting proposition. I need to get my hands on one for a video... if only there was somebody local to AMP with one! 😉

@pinkwheels3 Жыл бұрын

@@JoshVanVeld I don't have one I have two :), Roberto has my cell phone number!

@_Suzuka_Joe Жыл бұрын

my 981 will be here middle of next week and I've got a trackday setup for 10/30 in it.

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

Congrats! You're going to love it. What track are you heading to?

@_Suzuka_Joe Жыл бұрын

@@JoshVanVeld eagles canyon. Lots of bike days there but never in a car.

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

@@_Suzuka_Joe It's crazy how different the track experience is in a car vs. a bike. I love them both almost equally but I have a lot more skill in the car. Hope to get there someday with a bike.

@_Suzuka_Joe Жыл бұрын

@@JoshVanVeld after 8 years of trackdays and club racing I just sold my bike. I’ve seen so many guys jump from trackdays to club racing and burn out a year or two later and here we are lol.

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

@@_Suzuka_Joe Wow! What caused the burnout do you think?

@godzla69 11 ай бұрын

Good job hunter way to tell your friend to finally strap his helmet on! Lol😂😂😂

@JoshVanVeld 11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@DaringGreatlyRacing Жыл бұрын

Parts Bin Porsche = Cayman GT4. Parts Bin Pontiac = Aztek

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

I saw an Aztek on the road the other day and thought about offering to buy it so I can turn it into Walter White's Track Car 😆

@craigc8682 11 ай бұрын

Is the exhaust stock?

@JoshVanVeld 11 ай бұрын

Good question, I'm not sure.

@JerryCecco Жыл бұрын

Budget for many people is the first and biggest road block, if not we'd all be tracking $1m (insert hyper car name here)

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Everything is relative. Someday I want to do a build where I buy the cheapest possible car that I think I can get below 1:40 at AMP (safely).

@JerryCecco Жыл бұрын

@@JoshVanVeld Welcome to my sandbox, the formula starts with tires, then reliable power then weight......good luck

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

@@JerryCecco George Costanza voice: Don’t forget the brakes, Jerry!

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

@@JerryCecco George Costanza voice: Don’t forget the brakes, Jerry!

@smiaaron Жыл бұрын

@@JoshVanVeld B Spec car? Great racing class.

@thekingofcamo Жыл бұрын

What a sexy car.

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

If I could only pick one word to describe it, that would be a top choice! ❤

@BenR99 Жыл бұрын

That or a c8/c7 ?

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

Good question. I haven't driven a C8 yet. C7 Z06 is less money, way, way more power, and much more practical in terms of space. I'd also pick the looks of the C7. But right now if you made me pick, I'd go with the GT4. The driving experience is just so good.

@tomshores Жыл бұрын

What no chin strap?

@JoshVanVeld Жыл бұрын

I was wondering who would notice that first! Normally the pit-out folks check to make sure you've got stuff like that taken care of. This time they must have assumed I had my act together (bad assumption!). I fixed it for the next session. I'll be more careful next time.