Thanks so much for watching! & how cool! I’ve heard about the Creole community that migrated to that area of Texas. I believe Beyoncé’s family migrated there too when her mom was a little girl so that prob was like the 60s I’m guessing. Creole is such an intricate thing to explain but I’m trying lol

I'm also a Texas born Louisiana Creole myself....also in the Baytown/Houston area lol. There's a lot of us here!!!

Louisana born Creole but most of my family came to Houston, Baytown, & Beaumomt and. that was due to oil and energy capital of the world equals more jobs ;)

Damm I'm also Black creole from the Baytown area, I'm family is from Villplatte and Mamou last name Thomas...

​@kfelix2934 another one from Baytown... 😂 Bonjou!

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade I hear ya. Well, this is how colonialism has done lots of damage, it really has. There's times I think it would be fun to just forget it all and hide out amongst the Aboriginal groups and dance near the Pacific Ocean, forget history, and enjoy seafood and the breeze. lol But they experienced colonialism too. They lost their land. I just enjoy diverse cultures anyway. God has created us all!

You sound like you have a beautiful mixture!

Omg that makes me so happy to hear! Our culture is so unique and so beautiful, I’m really happy to be that reminder for us to know who we are & to be proud of it. Latinos share a similar background and are immensely proud of that. Creoles should be able to feel free enough to do the same 💕⚜️

Yeah everybody and their mama has some sort of opinion on it or false idea of it. I know it gets so annoying.

Absolutely! Idk why people are so concerned with how the next person ethnically identifies. The only time I can understand it is if someone is gatekeeping their own race/ethnicity from people who are claiming it but aren't actually even mixed with it. Otherwise I'll never understand trying to force someone into your race. Especially when they're not saying they're not that race. They're just saying they’re that race AND other things.

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade Yes Exactly 💯 👏 🙌

Strongly agree you do t even need to explain

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade yeah I think insecurity

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade most of my immigrant friends identify with their Latin American country unless there aren’t many people in the city from there country

That's so cool that they maintained the language! Thanks so much for watching my video!

I LOVE it! I love that more of us are realizing and embracing our unique and interesting heritages. Please continue loving on & learning about you and your family’s beautiful history. We wouldn’t exist if not for the vast blending within our families 💕⚜️

Amen! An identity in Christ is the most important identity of all.

That’s exactly it right there. People take people identifying as mixed or terms that point to mixed ancestry as them being anti-black or superior. Me claiming all of my ancestry has nothing to do with being “superior.” Not sure how any of that is supposed to be related. The only way to not be anti black is to be anti everything else I guess.. weird stance to take

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade you did a nice job trying to explain what you meant. The fact that you don't want to give offense shows that you care. Hang in there, don't let people's negative reactions or comments bring you down

@@mariocaron6223 Thanks so much for those kind words & encouragement! It’s very motivating

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade 😊

I think people should be caring towards themselves about themselves. No matter who they are. Caring and respecting yourself is a positive healthy way of living and being. Knowing, stating and celebrating your past is part. Of that. With that right mindset of care and respect we can apply it towards others... And together create a better society and world. People are amazing and beautiful and we all have so many mixtures in our genes going back prehistory let's celebrate the good going f9

That's because some people don't know their history. ♥ 🙏

Yup they get so offended

That's very true. Identifying with your whole ancestry or ethnic group is one thing but down right denying or being ashamed of your African ancestry is shameful. This is part of what makes some peole think all people of mixed ancestry have this mindset if we don't go out of our way to overcompensate & be the "blackest" person in the room. Embracing your whole ancestry goes both ways. No one should be forced to identify with only one part of their ethnic/racial composition but at the same time, no one should hide or be ashamed of any part of their ancestry if it's a large portion of who they are. & it's crazy that they would respond that way to you as a dark skin person without any regard. But like the other commenter said, some people don't know their history. Many of them are told by their families that their dark skin is just a result of having alot of Indigenous blood and they'll run with that as opposed to entertaining the thought or looking into the possibility that it could be due to African ancestry despite so many Latinos having African ancestry lol. Some don't know (because I think they kinda don't want to know) and some downright disown it but that's more of a them problem than an anybody else problem. It's not healthy to not be able to accept and love every part of you.

We as black ppl are the most hated people on the planet

@@okletstalk1372oh the things I’ve heard, I’m hesitant to say hated but I’m sure we are the most misunderstood cause many people don’t interact with us especially not in their own language, actually in central and South America many black communities are secluded and some are told they are indigenous, so many Spanish speakers only ever glimpse at the media to see us, I’ve had accounts that were offensive but clearly they arose from ignorance rather than mal intent for example not believing that my hair is real, I simply proved it was only to be accused of gluing a wig on 😂 the stubbornness, but where this lady was from dreads are only ever seen on wigs I had to understand her ignorance, here are some other translations: “You aren’t like the other brown skins” (compliment) “That’s not your hair so why do you wear a wig”(serious question) “Nothing more your people like to do only rob my people”(accusation) “You stay with your father?!”(surprises) “Your friends were shooting all last night”(accusation) “Hey monkey”(playfully) “Hey slave” (playfully) “Brown people are so mean but you’re so kind”(compliment) “Your people are so ratchet & ghetto don’t compare me to them” -(this last quote hurt me the most and it opened my eyes to this issue as it was said to me by an Afro Honduran after she made fun of my darkness and I suggested she was just as dark as the bottom side of my arm, she was not caramel at all and indeed just as brown as me)

Thanks so much for take the time out to watch & comment!

Multi race Im CREOLE ❤🎉 A🎉 AND I LOVE MY GUMBO SELF OK SHÁ AND I HAVE BEEN PICKED MOST OF MY LIFE BECAUSE I SPEAK “ broken Lang, and speaking Creole French and other made bc they cant understand Creole French ❤❤ sending love to my Creole sisters and brothers… from Naw’leans to new iberia

Yeah it has different meanings in different places. It overall signifies a mixture. A Creole langue takes pieces of this language and blends it with pieces of that language and Creole people are often (not always) mixed. In Cape Verde, their Creoles are typically an African/Portuguese blend as the Portuguese colonized that area whereas Louisiana Creoles are most often an African/French(sometimes Spanish) blend as we were colonized by the French & Spanish.

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade that’s fascinating! I didn’t know it had to do with language either. I’m also pretty sure it’s not used as (only) “mixed race” in Surinamese context. I think it’s officially those inhabitants of Suriname who descend from African slaves. One doesn’t exclude the other of course. Thank you for your knowledge.

@@NextChapterRapper The term also means any white or black person not born in Africa or Europe but lives in a culturally mixed society of both. For example Napoleons wife Josephine is called Creole despite not being mixed but born in the Caribbean island of Guadalupe and Toussaint L'Ouverture while black and not mixed is also labelled creole

@@theultimateartist4153 wait so there are creoles without a drop of African blood in them?

@@NextChapterRapper Yes, If you study colonial history it was quite common for people in France to see white french settlers as alien to France hence the word creole, many local French settlers word borrow African words to communicate hence as opposed to French speakers who just spoke fluent French. The word at it's core really just means "mixed" culture more than mixed race when objectively studied

Couldn't have worded that better myself. THANK-YOU

That’s the common misconception. Thanks so much for watching 💕

and the Garifuna ,who are descendants of Black Caribs: Carib Indians and black runaway slaves of Saint Vicent .The Garifuna did create a blended Afro/Indigenous culture .Blended in crafts, language etc

That’s true but some people get angry when you tell them that you are mixed. They only want you to identify only as black and not mention the other races.

That's interesting. Because when I was last visiting New Orleans. I came across mixed black Creoles, and outside the city in the rural areas. You had the Cajuns, who looked white. Some claimed to be Creoles too. It's all confusing to me. However, most blacks in America have some traces of white blood in them. Imagine Angela Davis, a black activist, who is fair skinned. Found out she was mostly white than black. The look on her face was astounding. When she was told that. When her ancestry was traced..

& that’s exactly why I like having a term like Creole. Being multi generationally mixed is it’s on distinguished experience. It’s similar to being biracial but we don’t have a fully white parent & white side of the family and the confusion/difficulties that come with that aspect of being mixed. We get the being stuck in the middle in terms of how people in the outside world treat us but in our homes, we look like plenty of other people in our family. I like it to be exactly known that I come from generations of a beautifully blended family.

​@@CreoleLadyMarmaladeYeah, lots of people dont realize there are entire communities of mixed race people who are generational from well over 100 years ago. I guess Louisiana is one of the only places where those communities exists. You look like those women down around Jeanerette, they're gorgeous too.😊

@@plowsharesintoswords8438 Thank-you! Yes that generational mixing is definitely more prominent outside of the U.S, that’s why Americans have such a hard time comprehending Louisiana Creoles and need to put some sort of binary racial box around us. It’s ok for us to say we’re black but the minute we say Creole or mixed, then we have “self hate”.. when it’s no different than a biracial person referring to themself as biracial. Which plenty of people have problems with that as well. Crazy

Yea and those old white people who were in control of checking boxes for people is who has messed things up, by labeling people whatever they want to and got away with it, forcing people to not use their own language because most Americans and Europeans can speak or understand other languages, they mixed up the real Natives of America, they made light skin people separate from their own people, who were either black or mixed then started labeling people, they put most light skin people on an Island, put darker skin people on another Island then made them think they were all different or Africans, yea people know but a lot of people don't know or understand why people are all divided against one another, and should learn real history from reputable non bias information period!! "they know most of the people from a lot of those Islands are descendants of white men, the English, British, and Spain, African, Mexican and Americans, when more people learn the true history of how people were all divided, then maybe they will look at things differently??"

Thanks so much for watching. I’m glad you enjoyed it.

@@jbrown5307 Thanks so much for watching!

Absolutely. Thanks so much for watching!

@@straighttalktea Thank-you so much! ⚜️💕

Thank-you!

I truly love my Native American side as well as my African American side, I'm so bless to have wonderful parents and family.

I love hearing about different beautiful Creole cultures!

Irish people weren’t white at that time which adds in another weird dynamic. Irish people only became white relatively recently. Did you know that eugenics was practiced on Europeans to create whiteness? It’s not often discussed.

Skin tone wise? They're definitely white; always have been because of geography and evolution. Now in terms of prior racial classification​, you're correct.@@davruck1

@@alexandermartinis147 white was never about skin color. It was lineage and culture. I have lots of people in my family who could pass for white. But there’s darker people in the same family. My dad is lighter than most white ppl but his brother is dark and his father is dark. His mom is light. But they are a very old Black family from Arkansas who lived in the segregated cities. At that time Black people were doing better than white folks. She was born in 1928.

@@davruck1 Perhaps you had mixed ancestry in your family... Also, 1928? During Jim Crow?? Black people definitely weren't "doing better" than white people.

I'm so glad this was able to help you in some way. That's part of my goal with this channel. To just let mixed people of all varieties know it's ok to simply be mixed or for the ones who belong to particular ethnic groups, mixed or not, it's ok to identify primarily as that ethnicity. People make everything such a black and white issue when there are people who exist in between or have pride in their ethnicity/culture as a whole like many Latinos who are simply Puerto Rican, Dominican, etc and don't necessarily find whole identity in simply saying black just because they have some African ancestry. I don't think this takes away from one's acceptance of their "blackness" as long as they recognize and appreciate that it's apart of them and know that being mixed doesn't make them better or worse than anybody else.

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade The whole "blackness" thing is the most confusing part for me, I have a Nigerian mother and an English dad of Eastern European immigrant parents. Growing up in London my mother wanted to safeguard me from prejudice and doctored the way I spoke and dressed until the end result was someone who felt very much like a white Englishman but with an afro and brown skin. The humour I would develope as a young teenage boy was the exact kind of humour specifically edgy white teenage boys would have (embarrassing). When one hears me over the phone one usually assumes I am a white man. My profession is classical music which in my experience is quite lacking in the black department. I feel a little removed from my blackness, I feel it to be so nebulous. The conclusion obviously is that I am black because lmao big lips afro. But obviously it is so much more than that, it's also culture. Something I feel a little far away from. It's also struggle, another thing I have (very very luckily) not had much of. I guess if I don't identify with these things, it is just skin deep but that feels like a cop out. I do not mean to pour my heart out to you ahahaha but I saw your video and your content and it struck a nice lil G13b5 chord within me. It resonated let's say haha. So I hope you have a good one!

​@@ajjivackovic1782I'm biracial British and I understand completely. There are however quite a few biracials in London.

But some of this Louisiana biracial are from Haiti and they used to trade with black slaves in Haiti and when the system of slavery collapsed in Haiti they left for Louisiana to trade with black slaves again. So the issue of biracial or creole is difficult for some of us to understand. If this creole could trade with white slaves I would see any problem with it but I do because even in Haiti the creole didn’t trade in white slaves but blacks only

Thanks so much for watching!

Thanks so much for your positive & insightful feedback. Your ancestry is especially interesting to me because of the varying French cultures that you have on both sides. That is really cool! Did either of your parents speak French? My paternal grandma and some of my great-grandparents on both sides spoke French & Kouri Vini. I agree that jealousy as well as hurt play large roles in why so many attack us for identifying with our true roots instead of titles that were forced upon us by Americans. It’s very sad because I’ve never met a single Creole person who was ashamed of or belittled their African ancestry. They simply place false allegations onto us. They don’t have this same energy for Jamaicans or Haitians who identify as such rather than simply “black” and that’s because those groups are predominantly black. Notice how they give Dominicans the same flack that they give Louisiana Creoles. Mixed groups need to only identify as black while black groups are allowed to identify with their culture/nationality/ethnicity. I checked out some of your vids and your family is beautiful. You were also the CUTEST little kid. I'm so happy that you're proud of your Creole roots. More of us need to display that same pride for our culture and our people. Thanks so much for watching! ✊🏼⚜️✊🏽

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade Hi, hi! Actually nope ...... my mom had educational problems and not sure about all my father's schooling. But anything other than English I never heard them speak. 🙂 I was named after my father who was named after his father Octave Jules, but it was a rough upbringing in my world and there were supposed plans for my parents to get married but my father didn't follow through. So after many years around age 10 my mom got custody and she was also a very strict Catholic, and because they weren't married she decided to rename me first and last name. So my mom changed my name and I lost Octave at age 10 and got the name Mark as my new name. She was strong in her religious beliefs and my father may have been Catholic, but very non practicing which caused a lot of problems between them. But now I just focus on the positive and all the good things that I learned and was given to me by both sides of my heritage. And beside French-Canadian & Native American my mom also was Irish and English. I just made a new best version on the Creole video with my father including the grandparents info, so you can check that out too 😀 Thank you for very kind compliment on my childhood cuteness hehe ...... Much appreciated 🙏 You're right about everything you said the double standard with how mixed groups vs black groups, and how they choose to identify is totally outta wack, and almost like we are seen as a Sub category less equal than if we were straight black. It makes no sense how black folks treat each other sometimes I even hear it when I'm watching something, and a black guy will call a mixed guy a "half breed" which is nothing less than a put down. I will most definitely continue to watch your videos and I appreciate you checking out mine as well 👍

Thanks so much for watching! Yeah I don’t think people realize how Latin our roots are and how we were originally very similar to Latin America which is why I think we’ve always had a more colorful and blended, almost Caribbean like culture than the rest of the United States.

That’s interesting to know. My family talks about how a few of my great-grandparents spoke French but I didn’t know if they knew exactly whether my great-grandparents were speaking regular French or Creole/Kouri Vini. I’m guessing my Cajun great-grandma, at least, spoke regular French. French is also easier to keep alive than Kouri Vini because there’s tons of other French speakers in other parts of the world and tons of resources for learning it. I 100% agree that Creoles need to go back to speaking French if they want people to truly realize that we are indeed our own ethnic group, linguistically & all. Our not so distant ancestors native langue was not English. & I do agree that Spanish is a good language for Creoles to speak as well as many Creoles do also have Spanish. I’m still working on my Spanish (I speak it pretty well but still not totally fluent) but I do want to learn French next (I know very basic/minimal French right now). I moreso associate my particular Creole heritage to French more than Spanish though because I have very little Louisiana Spanish ancestry. My Spanish ancestry comes primarily from Latin America via my Nicaraguan great-grandfather so my connection to Spanish has more to do with my Hispanic ancestry and my connection to French is linked to being Creole so I want to learn them both and feel super connected to both ethnic groups though I do feel, like you, that Creole does need more representation and we need to more proudly identify as such and make the French &/or at least Spanish languages apart of what people associate us with.

Most Creoles today just identify as black. It may vary a tad more with the older ones but most just identify as black but the ones that look super mixed or ambiguous, they still usually identify as black but if you prod a little and ask specifically what they're mixed with or something, they may clarify your confusion by saying they're Creole but it's not often the first thing they respond with. It's frowned upon here and seen as us not wanting to be black. Which clearly I don't personally subscribe to because the one drop rule is rubbish to me. I know a lot of highly mixed Creoles who in private complain about the fact that we're sort of stifled from identifying as anything but black if we don't want to be seen as "stuck up" or "anti black" but they won't voice that out loud. So I'll say it for them lol. But don't get me wrong, I don't know any Creoles personally who won't proudly proclaim that they're part black. They don't hide it or ignore it. I just know some who would like to be free to say all that they are and not have our pride in our blackness questioned or dismissed simply because we won't pretend it's the only part of our ancestry.

​@@CreoleLadyMarmaladethat's just it. The more mixed looking ones can have the privilege of claiming and identifying as being creole without criticism because that's the most common and accepted definition of creole in Louisiana. On the other hand someone of a darker hue would be criticized and called a liar. They can't claim there, sometimes authentic, ethic heritage without the backlash. Many darker skinned creoles only just identify as African American.

@@LCCreole We definitley get criticism too when we say we’re Creole. We get accused of not wanting to be black and trying to gain proximity to whiteness by claiming something other than purely black or African American. Someone’s gonna always have something to say about everybody regardless. But I do know what you’re saying about how no one assumes non mixed or dark skin people can be Creole.

Thank-you! I was planning to look more into Haitian culture but as of now I'm not super educated on them. I do know that Louisiana had an influx of Haitian immigrants once upon a time and I believe lots of us have distant Haitian ancestry. I know in my family tree I have quite a few distant great+ grand parents from "St. Domingue" which was Haiti back in the day

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade Just one correction. St-Domingue was just Haiti. The emigrees left St-Domingue (Haiti) during the Haitian revolution. They were white, black and mulatto...and they doubled New Orleans creole population. Dominican Republic derived from the Spanish colony of Santo-Domingo...a separate colony from French St-Domingue (Haiti)

@@alexskatit4188 You’re right. Thanks for the gently worded correction. I just thought Santo Domingo was the Spanish way to say St. Domingue lol

@@CreoleLadyMarmaladeHaitians identity as Creoles, we speak creole and have island creole culture. The loop earrings we wear are called creole. The women are called creoles regardless of their skin color. For the history of Haiti and DR please refer to the FDR library. WS did a number on people causing historical amnesia. Haiti is the first black republic in the world helped the USA with its independence. Helped Simon Bolivar free Latin America. Helped the DR free itself from Spain. Thank You for your post.

Absolutely that’s great that you’re taking an interest in your heritage! You should think about learning Kouri Vini (the French/African Creole blend our ancestors used to speak) or even standard French just to tie you in that much closer to the culture. I’m still learning Spanish right now but I’m going to start learning more French too. The reason Latinos are taken more seriously is because they have a unique culture that they never let die and they keep up their language. More of us should do the same. I am part Latina too lol but I’m more Creole as both my parents are Creole, my mom is just also part Nicaraguan.

I wanna learn the language

This couldn’t be any truer. Truly sad. It’s why I appreciate Puerto Rican culture so much. It’s what we could’ve/should’ve been.. but in French haha

​@@CreoleLadyMarmaladeIt seems the reason Puerto Rico wasn't affected so much by Saxons is because the island was already over populated. In addition to being isolated. Some even say if Napoleon would have teamed up with Toussaint instead of against him, the French would have had the man power to off set the help the Americans were sending to Mexico and eventually gained all of north America

The funny thing is before jim crow was upheld there was 3 clear divisions which included mulatto. Mulatto clearly had there own culture and heritage throughout the south. Look no further than "Brown Society" or William Ellison. Today AA claim both like AA history when neither of the two have anything to do with AA. I hope you do a video exposing this one day lol. Your right you have some heated you tubers out there lol @CreoleLadyMarmalade

@@krazyjnva2up2down55 Oh wow I gotta look into both of those but YES Anglo Americans cannot (or don’t want to) comprehend the separate Mulatto class of Latin societies.

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldKGnbqd3rOXpqM.html this is William Ellison. Both Anglo groups routinely refer to the man as black. His census records clearly say MULATTO. He was also part of one of those society's who only married other mulattos

Wow that’s interesting

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade Do I even LOOK creole though?

@@Drago1467 Creoles can look any way. There’s mixed Creoles and fully black & fully white ones but if you’re asking if you look like a mixed Creole since you’re biracial, I wouldn’t guess you to be Creole right off but if you told me you were, I’d believe you.

That's not really the case nowadays. If anything it's the opposite. It's kind of an ongoing joke how you almost never see two (mixed) Creoles together anymore. In my family, everyone in my grandparents generation are highly mixed, barely even half black then my parents generation it kind of varies, some are still fully mixed Creole but some have a fully black parent & a mixed parent so they're still kinda mixed but with more black than anything else but my generation & below, they're predominantly black and barely mixed at all. I'm a rarity in modern Creole identity. My dad is very hung up on only having mixed or close to white children so I'd say my highly mixed existance was deliberate on his part but not my mom. My sister has a monoracially black dad and my mom doesn't have those color struck hangups so it's coincidence on her part that I ended up being one of the few people under the age of 50 who still has 2 mixed Creole parents. My kids dad is also dark skin, monoracially black. The whole keeping the lineage mixed/light skin on purpose thing isn't really a thing anymore.

The black vs white skin color argument is prevalent in all races . Worse it seems in people of color. Where are the black skinned , nappy head Creole’s?! Seems like the inclusion of black folks is intentional. Almost racist. How can you explain that away when all I see are light straight hair creoles?!

Exactly! Being Creole is very distinguishable and when you say that’s what you are, it makes sense to people. It’s just like being Latino. No Puerto Rican is going to explain the entire process of colonization & say “I’m multi-generationally mixed African, Spanish & Indigenous & whatever else”… they’re simply gonna say “I’m Puerto Rican” & you’re gonna go ooooh ok 👍🏼 lol. Don’t know why it’s more understood regarding Latinos (even though some people feel they also need to just say they’re black too) but over all, the concept of them being mixed through numerous generations is understandable but the concept of Creole being the same is just beyond mystifying for them. & yes I knew Basque was very common among Latinos but it does make sense that it’d be common for Creoles too as Basque is literally tucked away between Spain & France. Me & my mom have Basque on our DNA tests but I thought it was because of her Latino grandfather but it could very well be coming from anywhere as two of her other grandparents are Creole and my dad’s side is also Creole.

@@CreoleLadyMarmaladeit would all make sense if people actually understood that the terms Black and white literally have nothing to do with ancestry. Besides undocumented Mexicans, the only Latinos they allow into the United States are whitewashed ones, which is why they’re a distinct category. African immigrants are technically not Black either.

@@whoahna8438 Right, I’m not Catholic. Not every Creole will be exactly the same BUT at the same time, they can’t not have ANY of these attributes and still be Creole. If you aren’t Catholic, don’t speak Creole/French, don’t have French or Spanish ancestry & just aren’t very mixed in general, HOW is this person any different AT ALL from just any other African American? If they have no attributes that a Creole person would have, how are they then Creole? Go to Latinos and tell them you have no Spanish or Indigenous blood & you don’t speak Spanish & see how well they embrace you as one of them. No one’s saying Creoles have to possess ALL of these attributes because it’s new Day, not everybody is of the same religion, the language was stolen from us in general so not many still speak it, but you do need to have SOMETHING that sets you apart from what it means to simply just be African American.

@@whoahna8438 Don’t make issues where there are none. “just” means solely, only & I’m sure you’re aware of that. Meaning only African American and nothing else, not mixed, racially nor culturally, “just” that one thing. & the slave woman in Louisiana would have been living under French or Spanish rule so both her mixed and unmixed children would have been speaking some form of French and their family would have been active participants in Louisiana French/Spanish culture hence Creole. I’ve already spoken to that point. Creole does not have to equal mixed, it is a culture, so both her mixed and unmixed child would have been Creole due to culture. & those descendants of French speaking Virginians, idk why they’re claiming Creole in the first place if they themselves don’t currently speak French nor are they the French/Creole mixture. I have a 4th great grandpa from Cuba, doesn’t make me Cuban or even a little bit Cuban and I at least speak Spanish, they don’t even speak French. There’s literally no point in the existence of ethnic groups if there are literally no basic requirements. I may as well be Japanese then.

@@whoahna8438 & religion alone doesn’t designate ethnic origin so a Catholic African American is just that. A Catholic African American. Being Catholic alone doesn’t make you Creole just like it doesn’t make you Latino. But I won’t argue someone from South Louisiana regarding themselves as Creole even if they have 0 other distinguishable attributes about them. Do I see the point in them wanting that title if it has no affect on their ethnic appearance nor in their everyday life via spoken language or any other cultural aspect other than food, no. I mean, I cook Mexican food sometimes, doesn’t make me Mexican. I’m not sure why simply being from a particular state warrants someone an entire new ethnic identity but if they want it that bad, it’s a free country. But would I consider them Creole. No. May as well give New Yorkers there own ethnic group & Californians, & everybody else. Creole is a tie to our pre American identity. The Mulatto racial mixture that arose pre America, the French/Creole languages that were spoken pre America, the Catholic religion that was practiced pre America. Simply living in Louisiana and cooking gumbo ain’t enough.. not to me

Thanks so much for watching! 💕

Sounds like strong, beautiful blend

Thank-you so much!⚜️

I get that a lot haha. Thanks for watching! ⚜️⚜️

You're apart of the problem. You seen VERY mixed race, yet attach yourself to racist ideology and the one drop nonsense. Why is white purity so protected, yet blacks are anything and everything ? Keep supporting ol massa.

I’m very glad you found my video too! Creole is Creole no matter your color. Don’t let people steal your beautiful identity away from you. When mixed people say we’re Creole, they have something to say because they think we think we’re too good to be just black & they’ll say stuff like “Creole is just something light skin people say so they don’t have to say they’re black” & when people who don’t look mixed say they’re Creole, they tell them they can’t be Creole because they’re not mixed. So if people who don’t look mixed can’t be Creole because they’re not mixed and mixed people can’t be Creole because black or African American are the only appropriate labels according to them, then that just shows they don’t want ANYBODY being Creole. It’s rooted in jealousy for some of them. Not that Creoles are “all that” or better than anybody else but they do the same thing to Dominicans and biracials a lot too. Anyone who comes from a culture that is synonymous with being mixed race &/or multicultural, they don’t like it so you have to ignore them and stand on who you are. They do this to everyone. I’m so happy you enjoyed my video. Be proud to be Creole. It’s beautiful! ⚜️💕

I'll be honest. I'm guilty of this too. My parents register as native American and black on their paperwork and I just put black. I have freckles with brown skin and my son is light skin. Both of my parents are dark brown. And that's how Creole genetics. But since I'm obviously African looking, I just say black. I know and work with Africans and they know I'm not completely African.

@@user-zb1dw8vd7k Beautiful mixture! My Nicaraguan great-grandfather was the standard, mainly Spanish & Indigenous Mestizo mixture. My grandmother (his daughter) has an African American mother so she has all 3, Spanish, African & Indigenous.

Cool background. I don't really think it's the timeline thing (slavery, jim crow etc) so much as how recent a relative of that era would even be to you right now. If she's your mom's 2nd great grandma, then she's your 3rd great grandma which means only around 3% of your DNA was inherited from her. But you can absolutely claim any bit of your DNA. Just about all African Americans have up to roughly 25% European DNA so it's not uncommon for lots of African Americans to have a white ancestor that far back, though typically male, so it's interesting that you have a Caucasian maternal line.

Because I’m also a small part Nicaraguan

Yes that's what people fail to realize, that Creole is Latin. I always say I feel like a bridge between Americans and Latinos because although we are American citizens, our roots are Latin and many of our mixtures are essentially the same as Latinos. Even as a child, before knowing about Nicaraguan ancestry, I always felt most similar to and the strongest connection to Latinos and Latin American culture. I didn't know the intricate history of Creole to know that I essentially come from prettymuch the same society as Latinos but I did feel and know that we were at least racially and phenotypically similar & I've just always had this connection to and understanding of them. As an adult I now realize we're far more similar as Latin cultures than we are to Anglo Americans even though we're in the same country.

DNA tests are actually extremely accurate at the continental level so as far as knowing your overall racial mixture (Subsaharan African(black)/European(white)/East Asian etc), the reputable companies like Ancestry & 23&Me will be spot on. People like to say they’re “inaccurate” because things can get tricky when it gets down to the specific regional level. Spanish and Portuguese genetics are so similar that it’s hard to pinpoint exactly which one someone might be. There’s been lots of migrations and intermingling between ethnic groups, especially between those who share a border so it’s sometimes hard to perfectly pinpoint individual ethnicities. So that’s where doing your own family research and confirming things with a paper trail come in handy. Knowing enough of your family history will let you know whether that Spanish/Portuguese result is Spanish or Portuguese or if that France/Germany is France or Germany etc. But also, the higher the percentage you are of something, the more likely it is it be accurate. A reputable DNA test isn’t going to tell you you’re 30% of something if you’re not that thing at all. They can’t give you an EXACT number so in reality you may really be 29% or 32% but it will be in the ballpark. But those low confidence things that are less than 5%, those are the things you may not be mixed with at all. Unless you know for sure from your own research/family knowledge, I wouldn’t put too much stock into the things that are less than 5% because that could just be noise. The only thing less than 5% that I acknowledge is my 1.6% Indigenous ancestry because my great-grandfather was from Nicaragua and Latinos, especially Mexican and Central Americans typically have large amounts of Indigenous ancestry so I know it comes from him. If you know how to interpret DNA tests, they work exactly the way they’re supposed to. They’re not intended to be a 100% exact science. They give you a good glimpse into your background and can help you to fill in some gaps like I did with my own grandma who’s biracial but we were told her father was Italian but after my mom & I doing DNA tests we found out that wasn’t true. But I combined our results with research and relative matches to confirm that he was actually Nicaraguan and not Italian. So the more research and family knowledge you have, the more clear and useful the DNA results will be. But at the broad racial level, that’s always super accurate. I have a video comparing my 23&Me & Ancestry results and though the numbers vary at the regional level, they all still add up to roughly the same thing at the continental/racial level. According to them both I’m 51-52% Sub Saharan African, 47% European on both & 1-2% Indigenous. Don’t give up looking into your grandma’s background. My grandma was a big mystery all our lives because she never knew her father and there were different rumors about what race he was & I’ve always felt like that was an important key to knowing my own background to a fuller extent so I felt very “complete” once I solved that 71 year old mystery and I’ve even gotten close with my grandma’s sister from Nicaragua who I now practice my Spanish with and everything. I say def do an ancestry test. Do both of the big ones (Ancestry & 23&Me) if you want to be extra thorough and compare results but yes definitely pair it with research. Also, if you’re specifically trying to inquire about Creole ancestry and can only do one test, definitely do Ancestry. Louisiana Creole is a community on Ancestry that will likely populate for you if your grandmother was significantly Creole. There’s also a Louisiana Cajuns and French settlers community that could also potentially populate and this would also point to Creole ancestry. I know it says Cajun but some Creoles have Cajun ancestry as well so these communities can sort of go hand in hand to give you clues. I’m Creole with a Cajun great-grandmother & have both communities in my Ancestry results. But thanks so much for watching my video & commenting & blessings on your journey to you! ⚜️💕

ok, i found that video and will watch it. I guess it's time to find out something more. My 6?X great grandfather was joseph guillory who had 4 children with his slave "margarita" She tried to escape to new orleans. Well known court case "The margarita case" Thank you 🙋‍♂ @@CreoleLadyMarmalade

@@dkidder1367 Oh wow I’ll have to look into that case! & you’re very welcome ☺️

It’s exhausting at this point 😫😂

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade Facts!

That’s beautiful. Well, I have a Hispanic great-grandfather from Nicaragua but I don’t consider myself to just be Latina/Hispanic. I’ll say that I’m mixed with Nicaraguan or part Latina or have Nicaraguan/Hispanic ancestry but as you can see, I primarily consider myself to be Creole but I do acknowledge my Hispanic ancestry. So I’d say that acknowledging your Creole ancestry is beautiful and saying that you’re part Creole or have Creole ancestry would be appropriate. I wouldn’t just downright only refer to myself as Creole though because it’s generally assumed that you’re fully Creole or at least have one fully Creole parent when you do that. & that’s the same reason I wouldn’t only refer to myself as Hispanic or Latina. I don’t have a direct parental link to it making me fully nor at least half Hispanic so I make sure to make the distinction by saying I’m part Hispanic/Latina rather than only repping being Latina/Hispanic. But I hope you do lean into claiming Creole as apart of your beautifully blended heritage and learn your history and try learning some French or Louisiana Creole (Kouri Vini) 💕⚜️

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade that makes perfect sense! Thank you💖 Since I’ve learned so much about my mom and dads side of the family’s ancestry I haven’t really been able to fully identify myself in terms of my heritage and race. But this really helped!

Glad I could help ;)

& that's exactly why I wanted to talk about my particular mixed heritage because there's so many different ways to be mixed and we really only hear from biracial people most of the time who have one black parent and one other race (usually white) parent. I do enjoy hearing their experiences as they are similar to my own in many ways but being multiracial or multi-generationally mixed are unique experiences as well. I'm glad you embrace your whole heritage even if Irish isn't something you necesarily identify with right off, you acknowledge it and don't deny it and that's beautiful... & yes the trans stuff is ridiculous and that's why it pisses me off when someone has the nerve to tell the next person how they should or shouldn't identify racially/ethnically if they're claiming racial/ethnic groups that are actually apart of them and their family's DNA. If people can refer to a human with a penis as a woman, then I shouln't hear a peep out of anyone about me identifying racially or ethnically as anything that is actually apart of my DNA.

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade Yep. I couldn't agree more. Thanks for the feedback. Beauty comes in all colors!

Thank-you! Americans are so fixated on race but I am enamored with CULTURE. So white, that’s boring, but Italian, tell me more. “Black” that’s such a blanket term, but Jamaican, tell me more. I’m interested in the traditions, music, language of various cultures so while simply identifying with the blanket terms “white” or “black” may be fine for most, I’m more in touch with the CULTURE of my heritage aka my ethnic group which is Louisiana Creole.

African diaspora? We were already here! We are indigenous to America. Look up Dane Calloway.

Well said brother. The Americans did a lot of damage

​@@thebuttermilkgirlisback Lol!!! So delusional...

Creole was made up by the " white man from france ( french ) having babies with the slave woman( preferably the light skin ones who were products of their masters) who did NOT want these women and their kids to be looked up on as being" like the other Negroes".( preferably the dark skin ones with nappy hair!! Know your history because it all stemmed from slavery.. and a black female slave) .the white man has ALWAYS been free and in control to have any woman, any race that he wanted!! Always had the power.it all stems from him.!! While everyone thinking they are better / different than Negroes remember where and who u originated from and as far as speaking " creole" he the white french man from france taught his women the language and rather than saying " u can speak french cos the slave woman wasn't in france they named it creole" too. All made up by him !! And because he said it , named it so be it. It went down inhistory as such. To be fair he created the " colorism" putting the light skins in the house the dark skins in the fields. So of course the dark skins felt less than, envious, jealousy, and felt that the light skins thought they were better than them BUT the light skins didn't have anything to do with it they had no control, " they were just following orders".and so the saga was passed down and continued throughout history to today.!!

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade Hi, modern day Miami ,Florida is what New Orleans would have looked in the past; as far as people's look . If you walk the streets of Miami today, you see all kinds of Latinos from the original Cubans to Colombians, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, Hondurans, Salvadorans, Peruvians; and so on and some even mixed with each other; hence the term Latino ;you will see all kinds of phenotypes ,but they are all bound by a "Latino " culture . I also been to the Lowlands of the Carolinas and Louisiana and in architecture :cement colorful houses ( there are other architectural elements ) ,and the soul food : remind me much of South Florida/Caribbean/Latino culture:the use of so much rice and beans . Apart from the Spanish speaking Latinos ,other Caribbeans: Haitians ,Jamaicans and others have also influenced South Florida and Florida and expanding out of Miami .

Yeah they usually already know what’s up when you say you’re from Louisiana haha.

Yes! Very similar

A New Orleanian and a person of Creole and British Caribbean descent. You're correct about the access to an ethnic group. But what I would say is that the lack of understanding and the reductive influence that black Americans (outside of greater N.O. ) have drives that push. Before moving to Canada, I lived in Metro Detroit. Many were confused to my skin color not matching their perception to what black people normally do. I told them my ethnic make up (which is what define culture). They instantly used the "if you were pulled over by police you'd still be a N*****" shaming tactic. Many use it to make you forget about your culture.

Hmmmmm. Almost lost me with commentary - just enjoy both or multiple heritages. What is true in America is that no one can question you about The base mixture

🖤 Blacks are a ethic group. Ethnicity within other black 🖤 groups. With their own blended cultures. What's unfortunate is that many people can't recognize what they have in common. That's a strong word, if not an insult. Black Americans are not jealous of Creoles, because we have too much to be proud of. The contributions we have accomplished in America 🇺🇸 speaks for the pride we have in our Blackness. ♥ 🙏

@denisehenry3427 Many Black Americans (not all) wear their blackness like a scab. I've witnessed it all my life. I was verbally attacked all my life about this high yellow 💛 skin, so don't try it, lol. Alot of those accomplishments (not all) you speak of are black people claiming MIXED race peoples wins. Example: Barack Obama

​@@denisehenry3427I do agree with ou but black is not a ethnic group it's a race an ethnic group would be youroba, igbo, hausa , fulani : these are ethnic groups most commonly found in west Africa that most ados come from in the US/ ex slave holding west European countries ..

What a beautiful background. Creole is it’s own ethnic group so for me it explains my whole origins more specifically than African American. An African American can be from Illinois or Georgia or anywhere else in America and they’re almost always predominantly black with some distant British/Anglo ancestry. Me saying I’m Creole specifies my specific pre American, French Louisiana heritage and it’s more likely that my mixture includes French &/or Spanish than British. My recent ancestors spoke French, not just English. It’s an entirely different background & histor. So for me, my race is black (mixed) & my nationality is American but my ethnicity is Creole. You can say that I’m a black American based on my race and nationality but my ethnicity is specifically Creole and I think it’s perfectly fine to identify as such. People like to say Creole is a subcategory of African American but it’s not. There are fully white Creoles so are they also African American? Many Creoles have mixed with African Americans so that’s probably where that idea came from but the offspring of these unions are simply both African American and Creole but Creole itself isn’t a subcategory of African American. Creole existed before Louisiana even became part of America or before any African Americans were even there so how can we be a subcategory of something that’s not even part of how we came to be? Most of us are of African/black ancestry and can be described as racially black but I solely ethnically identify as Creole but if someone else says I’m African American, it’s no biggie. People aren’t familiar with our history and feel a way when you do like the Dominicans and say “I no black” 😂 in my case I’d be saying “I no African American” & they wouldn’t comprehend the concept that I’m not saying I’m not black, I’m just saying I’m a different ethnicity but I am racially mixed with black. They wouldn’t comprehend that so I let them identify me as African American if they want to but if you ask me what I am, I say Creole. For you & your background, it sounds like you’re probably both Creole & African American. My kids dad is African American and I tell them they’re both Creole & African American.

You definitely look Creole or Dominican on your profile pic ☺️

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade thank you for your response! I appreciate it. You have a cool background, too. My thing with African-American , though, is that it seems to be a broad term for many of us. To me the term would imply that one has close ties with Africa/recent African heritage, and I don’t have much connection to Africa or any of its cultures/tribes besides most of my dna being African, obviously. Also, many white people don’t call themselves “European-Americans”. Although they make up most of the population that doesn’t make us any less American and it doesn’t mean we should be identified as people of another continent *hyphen* American. For both my race and ethnic classification I’d rather be called Black. With how complex my ancestry is, too, I just feel it doesn’t fit. That’s why I asked if Creole would be appropriate for ethnicity, but I will just identify as Black and acknowledge Creole as part of my heritage/ethnicity. However there are others more mixed than me that identify as AA, but all power to them.

@@maestrosavage1359 I absolutely agree that it’s weird that white people don’t have to be called European-American but everybody else has to be hyphenated like they’re some sort of abnormality. Also, a lot of black Americans today are choosing to refer to themselves as FBA or “Foundationsl Black Americans” because just as you said, so many centuries have passed now and we no longer have any ties to Africa nor shared culture with Africans so the FBA ethnic rebranding makes sense to me as well & can’t be confused with people who were born in America but have parents or grandparents who migrated from Africa or the Caribbean. They too are technically “African American” but they don’t come from the same history, culture nor ethnic background as Foundational Black Americans. So I do agree that the title African American is just ill fitting for anyone regardless of mixture. My great-grandfather was from Nicaragua and I sometimes say I’m Creole & Nicaraguan or sometimes just Creole. I think it’s kind of a fluid thing & just depends on what identity suits you. Like you, I taught myself Spanish as a second language and have always had a special closeness to the Latino community because it is what Creole should’ve been and I found that they looked more like me and just felt more familiar to me. Their families look like mine, they just resonated with me more and I saw myself in them (moreso Caribbean Latinos like Puerto Ricans and Dominicans) so because I share this close identity with my Latina heritage, although it’s not as large a part of my background. I do claim it as well most of the time so I think it would be fine to say Creole. You have it on both sides.

😂😂 I threw it in there because I feel like when people say “I’m mixed/Creole/biracial etc,” what some black people literally somehow hear is “I’m WHITE!!!” when that’s not it at all lol. If we wanted to be white we’d all flat iron our hair and say we’re Italian and call it a day lol

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade its true though or that you have colorist beliefs if you have fair skin as if you don't have dark skinned relatives that you love. It would break my heart when pretty dark skinned girls accused me of hating them when they look just like my mom or aunt who were my idols!

@@CatloafCreative My sister’s dad is fully black and my children’s dad is fully black so I have a brown skin sister & daughter as well as all my nieces and tons of other distant relatives. There’s no possible way I could look at brown or even darker skin and not see beauty. Like you said, that would directly negate the beauty I see in my family. & they are also Creole. People hear Creole and think we’re disassociating from black when there tons of black/non light skin people of Creole heritage

Yep. I hated Linda Darnell (the actor) that played that part for a long time after watching the movie. 😂

She wasn't the 1st one to play her a Real very light skin black female whose came from " the one drop rule era portrayed the girl inoriginal imitation of life" her name was " Freddie Washington" . She was really pretty .and looked way better than linda darnell.!! To this day " do not see how they came up with that title"..it is so sad that so many ppl do NOT KNOW HISTORY...

Funny you should ask, I’m actually posting a vid about Mulatto today! I’m going through my family census records and almost all of my relatives before 1920 were classified as Mulatto

I do want to dive into the other categories like Quadroon and Octaroon as well

Here’s the Mulatto vid! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qJ-jaden0qu3ZJc.html

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade You are a mullato. Go to africa and say youre black, you and any other biracial would be laughed at. Its 2023, truth matters.

People labeled us and we embraced it. Placed on an auction block. Paraded around like prime livestock. That was cruel and inhumane. ♥ 🙏

100% agree!

Creoles in America are linked specifically to colonial Louisiana. Being mixed isn’t the important part. You have to be a descendant of colonial Louisiana. Hope this helps & thanks for watching.

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What a beautiful & rich family history! One drop rule was definitely the standard in their time so it’s understandable why mixed people of their generation identified the way that they did.

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade Thank for your very insightful video. Like my mama used to say."Down home you gonna get different answers from different people in the Culture." She thought of her heritage as a cultural mix. She also used to say," Ain't like pop-pop(her father) and me are gonna get invited to a Klan meeting. Cuz as soon as we open our mouths we gonna get caught. Better to live a truth.Than die a lie".

@@frederickgriffith7004 Very true. But race in America was very black and white back then. If you weren’t “pure enough” to be white then you were black. Race is a bit more nuanced today and our mixed race experiences often speaks to an in between existence and I think that’s ok. Thanks so much for watching and gracing my comments with a bit about your beautiful family. ✨✨

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade Absolutely agree with your assessment 👏. There was no in between up to my mother's generation.She was born in 1930.

That’s a very well rounded way to make sure your kids know their whole history and love every single part of themselves. & congrats on the upcoming little one!

You're apart of the problem then. You're a creole.

Yep that's exactly how the word evolved for us too. Just kind of equates to "native of this area" in the simplest terms. & yeah I added Portuguese to the subtitle after I recorded, as also being apart of the Latin American Latino identity because I kinda just forget about it when speaking lol probably because I'm always focused on French & Spanish but yes Brazilians are def apart of that. & absolutely, since I was little I was always fascinated with the similarities between Louisiana Creoles and Latinos too. Especially having some Nicaraguan ancestry as well, I love connecting the dots between my two beloved cultures. Latinos are what Louisiana Creoles would've been without all the culture stifling, one drop idoctrination & just overall Americanization. America did to us exactly what it's good at doing. I wish more Creoles would realize how we're literally Latin in origin and not Anglo and I feel like that should make us a pretty cool bridge between Latinos and Americans if more of us realized it and leaned into it.

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade yes, I always considered creoles as Latins. There was an Exodus of the French from Louisiana and Haiti after Louisiana was sold to the U.S. and after the Haitian revolution to Puerto Rico, so we have a good amount of Puerto Ricans with French ancestry as well.

I did not know that! That's super interesting. That must be why I always, especially had a fondess for Puerto Rico (& Dominican Republic) out of all of Latin America haha. I did know that a good chunk also went to Mexico and just integrated into Mexican society. That was probably especially easy in PR. We already look the same and they already spoke a romance language. Probably wasn't hard to assimilate. I'd bet that was actually probably easier than the ones who stayed & had to assimilate to English speaking American culture.

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade I believe so.

@theycallmeC Wepa! Jaja ♥️

There are millions of beautiful ladies out there but THANK-YOU!

Absolutely. I always use the Gullah people as an example of this.

I love this! THIS is the scenario for many Creoles so expecting us to identify differently is just wrong and forceful. I too used to identify as black much of the time just to avoid the snarky comments. Though that didn’t even matter because the response was always “ain’t no way you’re JUST black” so I would end up having to elaborate anyway. But I noticed that if I answered that I was Creole or mixed when they first asked, they’d get an attitude but if I said black first & then they “gave me permission” to elaborate because clearly looking at me, I’m not just black, then it was acceptable to say more to ease their curiosity lol. But I’m over it now. If my heritage offends anyone, that’s a them problem, not a me problem ✊🏼✊🏼⚜️⚜️⚜️⚜️

Yep that’s exactly how it went down.

No...all wrong. My people were here in Louisiana since 1863, and a "Creole" was a person of French and African descent who was mixed. Native American and Black mix was called "Redbone" or "Cheriwench". English n Black mix was valled "Mallata" or "High Yellow". All of these mixed groups produced some very BEAUTIFUL people, but the Mallata women down around Jeanerette are simply gorgeous and have no need of make up whatsoever.

Yea and those old white people who were in control of checking boxes for people is who has messed things up, by labeling people whatever they want to and got away with it, forcing people to not use their own language because most Americans and Europeans can speak or understand other languages, they mixed up the real Natives of America, they made light skin people separate from their own people, who were either black or mixed then started labeling people, they put most light skin people on an Island, put darker skin people on another Island then made them think they were all different or Africans, yea people know but a lot of people don't know or understand why people are all divided against one another, and should learn real history from reputable non bias information period!! "they know most of the people from a lot of those Islands are descendants of white men, the English, British, and Spain, African, Mexican and Americans, when more people learn the true history of how people were all divided, then maybe they will look at things differently??"

​@@plowsharesintoswords8438 You are wrong. "Creole" is a word with no one definition. It was first meant for Spanish settlers who were born in the Americas (Criolos), but as the original poster notes, it also became associated with people who were considered "racially mixed", especially if they were of African ancestry. HOWEVER, the poster is wrong to say that the term "Creole" is synonymous with "mixed". African Americans, even those who were "mixed", were rarely called Creoles. Louisiana Creoles are an exception here. Meanwhile, in Jamaica and much of the Caribbean, you see the word "Creole" applied to people who may have nearly no non-African ancestry. Sierra Leone has "Krios" of that sort, too - largely New World originating people of African descent who then mixed with eachother and local ethnic groups.

@@chillin5703 Naaaa, you wrong. Creole is a French word from FRENCH settled Louisiana...no Espanol settled here to impose their language or culture.

Oh wow! How cool! Thanks for stopping by

It is def on my bucket list to visit DR! Caribbean Latinos & Creoles have so much in common! They even refer to New Orleans as the northern most Caribbean city lol

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade they hate our country because we claim mixed instead of any other race. If you feel like creos are alone u got a home in the island of Hispaniola

Yeah but black Haitians aren’t.

Bingo! Many Black Americans are very loyal to their Anglo teachings. That’s why so many of them can’t comprehend what it means to be a mixed race Creole or Afro Latino. The French & Spanish created environments that were conducive to having in between identities whereas everything is just black or white for Anglo Americans in general. There’s too much information available to everyone now for any of us to still be allowing others to stifle our cultures and identities based on their lack of comprehending it. That’s why I’m passionate about spreading information about my culture and what we are because I do not appreciate the continued erasure. I love my unique culture and I won’t be bullied away from it. Thanks so much for the insightful and well thought out commentary ✨⚜️

Beautiful mixture

You are 100% right. Being in between is simply a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario so you may as well identify with what suits you best and I find that ethnicities & nationalities tell so much more about a person than race. Race only indicates phenotype. You can have an African American, a Nigerian & and a Jamaican who are all “black” & look exactly the same yet they all have 3 very distinct cultures and vibes to them. I’m a big fan of identifying by ethnicity or nationality.

Yeah ☺️

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade Excellent topic. I'm a Professor at Southern University. I discuss this Topic all the time the original use of the word. You really did a great job, I'm Impressed!!!!!!!!!!

@@CreoleLadyMarmalade so are you in New Orleans????

@@professorterrellwaynejohns7401 Thank-you! & yeah I’m near New Orleans. My mom went to Southern.

Oh wow! I heard that the DuVernay line started from two brothers that moved to New Orleans from France so all Louisiana DuVernays are supposed to be related. My great-grandpa was Otis DuVernay and my grandma is Charlene. Who’s in your DuVernay line?

Mygreat grandmother’s name was Ondine (she was married to Joseph Duvernay); my Grandmother’s name was Gladolia Duvernay and my father’s name was Lumon Duvernay (most family members called him Mitch).

I don’t know if you know this but we also have lots of family members in Michigan and Canada.

@@katebattle1103 Omg my great grandfather Otis, his dad & brother were both named Joseph so your great grandfather is likely my great grandfather’s father or brother. Idk either of their wives names to try and figure out which is which

@@katebattle1103 No I didn’t know we have a lot of family in Michigan and Canada. That’s my dad’s side and he was a very absent father so I didn’t grow up seeing his family much at all.

I absolutely agree

Why is white such a distinct definition? Why us Chinese such a distinct definition, why is south asian a distinct definition? Why is black such a loose term ? Ding ding..... RACISM. You people cry racism from others, yet still follow good ol jim crow and the racial ideologies of that day. Dominicans are a heavily admixed population, and creoles are mullatos. My goodness have some dignity. Most African Americans are 80 percent or more black and still look pretty African. So its not the same.

Dominican is NOT black. It is an ethnicity/nationality and the vast majority of Dominicans are mixed. Don't impose your US rules on other people.

@alexskatit4188 its not about US rules. Its more about historically being black is the less desirable thing to be everywhere in the western world. Im not the darkest and have been accused of being other things throughout my life but I know other people that probably can't pass for anything else and I feel like identifying as black for me is more about embracing what is considered less desirable. I have no problem with people being proud of their entire background be it white, German, indigenous or whatever but some people just want to be exotic or or something cooler than "just black". Im not cool with that

I say what is, simply IS. If a person is mixed with more than just black then that's just what it is. Ideally no, we wouldn't want them claiming their mixed identity simply to sound more exotic but at the end of the day, they are what they are and who's fault is it if they come across sounding exotic? They didn't make themselves mixed on purpose. Society needs to change their views on fetishizing mixed identity. Mixed people shouldn't be expected to only identify as black to avoid sounding too "exotic" when it's not our fault that label was put onto us in the first place. I know you didn't say you expect mixed people to solely identify as black but just saying in general. This is often the mindset people have when they get mad at mixed people choosing to identify as mixed rather than exclusively black. They assume it's because we want to sound exotic when it should really be as simple as this person is simply identifying as exactly what they are no matter the reason behind it. If they think it makes them superior in some way, that's truly sad but they simply are what they are. Now, a mixed person pretending to be fully white, that's different. They're literally going out of their way to lie so you know for a fact they're trying to seem more superior or completely distance themself from blackness in order to raise their status in society or a black person with a mixed great-grandma identifying as mixed, THAT is someone going out of their way to sound "exotic".. but an actual mixed person stating exactly what they are, just is what it is.

​@@CreoleLadyMarmaladeit's complicated. There's a reason why the creole language or kouri vini is a dying language and louisiana french is doing fine. It's because of who is perceived to speak creole vs french. I guess my thing is anybody feel frer identify how you please. I just hope people will not be shamed out of their culture and I feel no need to identify with the white part of me because there's a line around the corner for that. People can see it when they see me and there is no part of my own culture that I lose by simply saying I'm black.