is Rio Ferdinand WRONG about Bukayo Saka?
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3 ай бұрынAfter Rio Ferdinand claimed Bukayo Saka is NOT world class the kick off lads debate just how good the Arsenal hero is.
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The latest episode of the Kick Off Podcast ignites a fiery debate in the football world as Saka's stats are compared to Ronaldo's. With Saka boasting 51 goals and 49 assists in his first 210 appearances compared to Ronaldo's 50 goals and 43 assists, the discussion heats up. Rio Ferdinand's comparison of Saka to Foden sparks controversy, with some arguing Saka's efficiency and impact on the game surpasses flashier players. The panel delves into Saka's potential and the importance of surrounding him with the right team. Could Saka reach the heights of Ronaldo or Messi? Tune in to hear the debate and join the conversation!
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@hiiithisisinsanewoow6753 3 ай бұрын
Saka is very good. Could be great (Hazard, Alexis level), but trying to convince yourself that he could reach prime Messi and Ronaldo level is delusional. Might take 40 years to get the next Messi. Bro had like 2 ballon dor's, 2 UCL's and and treble at that age. While playing at the best team ever.
@dragonflame99k34 3 ай бұрын
And he is no where near gonna be the level of hazard Sanchez as well tf 😂😂😂
@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON. 3 ай бұрын
@@dragonflame99k34I dont he'll ever be hazard pure talent/ability wise. But tbf even sanchez i dont think anyone thought hed be THAT good and he was 25 when he moved. Same with the likes of a Salah or kdb etc....whens saka e.g 25 would be a fairer analysis of his level
@IbrahimAli-jb8ml 3 ай бұрын
I think he can. He's already halfway there statwise at the age of 22.@@dragonflame99k34
@dragonflame99k34 3 ай бұрын
Sanchez was sick at Barca too.Salah was also already a good player at Roma for 2 seasons
@xpds5543 3 ай бұрын
Hazard is levels , saka will never reach the heights and he’s never done anything that’s made you get off your seat
@kaneharris3971 3 ай бұрын
That fact u even mentioned him in the same sentence as Messi an Ronaldo is insane
@ayaanlatif2296 3 ай бұрын
He didn’t, sky sports did
@kaneharris3971 3 ай бұрын
And so did the arsenal fan multiple times👍🏻
@CaughtColdBoxing 3 ай бұрын
@@kaneharris3971he said there is no reason he can’t get on his level which is ridiculous. Not even the best winger in the league
@vidalgutierrez1736 3 ай бұрын
@@CaughtColdBoxingand Ronaldo didn’t even play 433. These guys are the worst
@mavsworld1733 3 ай бұрын
@@vidalgutierrez1736Ronaldo was a winger playing for the best team in the premier league, who had just won the premier league the year before and had won it 4 times in the last 5 years. After he joined they didn't win it, and they didn't win the champions league too. It took them 5 years with him in the team to win the champions league and 4 years to win the league. They won the FA cup in his first season, but that his only major silverware until the prem. So where exactly was Ronaldo on another level or taking games by the scruff of the neck, because if you are in a team with Neville, Ferdinand, Scholes, Keane, Giggs and Rooney, and you aren't winning titles then you're clearly not that otherworldly at that age.
@aarondt77 3 ай бұрын
You had me for first few minutes but then you compared him to the way Gerrard carried Liverpool.... Lost me there mate
@kurtsudheim825 3 ай бұрын
Mature he started at lb for the worst arsenal side in pl era, pea & their gun where the only other decent players they had, they eye a joke. He's a kid, who who always say ate inconsistent cause they're learning, & he's been performing for them for years now. He has decibel varied that team, maybe not as much as Steven or Harry at spurs, but they had exp
@duckers5120 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, try winning a champion's league with Djimi Traore and Vladimir Smicer 😂😂😂
@PotatoAimNr1 3 ай бұрын
@@kurtsudheim825Huh?
@jeevanthomas8095 3 ай бұрын
Crazy how arsenal fans are rewriting history. As if aubameyang wasnt the one actually doing the carrying 3-4 years ago..
@Edyoucation-fe1qq 3 ай бұрын
Imagine having to drag that midfield of Xavi Alonso and Mascherano. And how can you possibly get assists when the likes of Torres and Suarez up top. Must be difficult.
@brianonyango6011 3 ай бұрын
This was the most constructive discussion I have heard concerning the Saka vs Foden discourse. Both players are absolutely TOP.
@kurtsudheim825 3 ай бұрын
I hate this constant comparison, it's so stupid, saying one os great didn't mean the other isn't, they're on different paths rn, so what
@Anonymous-sq8me 3 ай бұрын
My god the levels of delusion this arsenal fan has is genuinely unbearable🤣🤣 Saka potential level of Ronaldo and Messi is laughable
@artetaDagoat 3 ай бұрын
Ronaldo maybe
@gedeonnsiala4838 3 ай бұрын
Not all these guys are even arsenal fans
@generalpausanias7089 3 ай бұрын
@@artetaDagoat😂😂
@mirkys130 3 ай бұрын
@@artetaDagoatI know football is the worlds game but maybe it just ain’t for you lmao
@joshskeels810 3 ай бұрын
Well.. has better stats than ronaldo at same age 😂😂
@willusher1723 3 ай бұрын
Glad he got that in at the end about Saka's mentality. It couldn't be more false when people call him "shy". He's just so humble, brings a positive attitude everywhere and he works so hard for the team tracking back, helping us retain the ball and dominate instead of taking on the 2/3 players marking him. He definitely plays more functional but that is very much down to the way we play. I think if he simply played more as an inside forward in more of a free role he'd have more of that superstar Salah, Hazard, Bale tag already. Maybe we can see that for England especially with more open games, but I love what he does for Arsenal. What a player and what a strong CHARACTER 💪
@kurtsudheim825 3 ай бұрын
Tldr, but I agree, everyone makes him of him for missing a pen. Bit my q is: WHY TF is a 19yo stepping up to take a pen that could win your nation its first trophy in half a century? Where was walker, Jordan... bunch of shrinking violets foe exp players. I get they were attackers, but expecting kids to handle the pressure
@cam_bielby6335 3 ай бұрын
Saying Foden wouldn’t get in above martinelli is mental😂
@NphiniT 3 ай бұрын
Martinelli is better than Foden bruv
@technodiscofool 3 ай бұрын
@@NphiniTMartinelli is great, but Foden is miles clear
@andziaarus8902 3 ай бұрын
Different tyle of players can't compare
@augment999 3 ай бұрын
innit Foden is so clear of Martinelli
@NphiniT 3 ай бұрын
@@technodiscofool Stop that man. Martinelli is Ballon D'or material. He is clear clear off Foden.
@jackrodwell4967 3 ай бұрын
Wow, have i just heard that there is no reason why saka can reach ronaldos levels? The disrespect is unbelievable its like saying haaland is the best striker in premier league history because he holds the record for most goals in a pl season...
@handysphinx2125 3 ай бұрын
yeah saka will never ever reach anything close to ronaldo or messi
@JPayne95 3 ай бұрын
It's a detriment to saka to be compared to such freaks
@akeemguy7331 3 ай бұрын
bad analogy because Halaand could actually rip PL records apart if he stays long enough..
@laddoink7636 3 ай бұрын
@@akeemguy7331He can score 300 in 10 seasons and it doesnt change the fact that hes nowhere near henry, rooney, suarez, rvp, salah (aguero kane in my opinion as well) Numbers are context dependent and haaland has the easiest context for numbers for any player ever- poaching for man city and being compared to technical fluid strikers ( if you drop deep and wide to progress play then the tap ins and rebounds go to your teammates more and modern teams score more, and title challengers post billionaire era dominate more- more points and goals) Haaland objectively doesnt improve his teams goals per game from when foden or alvarez play in his position. All opinions on strikers are just outdated boomerisms
@akeemguy7331 3 ай бұрын
@@laddoink7636 again still a bad analogy 😂 Halaand would reach much closer to their level than Saka would reach to Ronaldo's...
@MrDylanh1995 3 ай бұрын
Foden had to break into the City team first though? Pep doesn’t just pick someone and use them as a Swiss army knife to fix all his problems without rating him highly. Foden benefits from playing with great players but he had to break into that team first and beat a lot of great players before he could benefit from that.
@mathieuz.1243 3 ай бұрын
Foden breaking into the squad w david, bernardo kdb yaya gundo mahrez sane sterling etc is much more impressive. He’s done it in ucl semi finals and finals big performances to win ucl’s and cups. Not to mention winning ypoty twice in a row. Comparison only came when foden was injured last szn….
@jeevanthomas8095 3 ай бұрын
There's this idea that its easier to shine and play at a high level when your surrounded by great players and its harder when your surrounded by not so great but good players. Its exactly the opposite. Saka stood out because he was the best of a bad bunch whereas foden stands out even when hes surrounded by some of the best players itw and has to play at that high standard to just start for the team. Saka is not on fodens level. Im a realmadrid fan and despise city but foden is clear
@ndola2252 3 ай бұрын
He NEVER played in the knock out stages of UCL or the semi and final of FA cup. City won but he wasn't in the team.
@rodrigomadureira5677 3 ай бұрын
@@ndola2252, foden did tho. Foden has the same G/A (3) as arsenal in semi and ucl finals😂
@falsemanager654 3 ай бұрын
Foden will NEVER replicate The numbers Saka did last season in a prem season in his whole career Think about that
@jeevanthomas8095 3 ай бұрын
@@falsemanager654 saka had 29 g/a last season foden had 24 g/a already this season. Lmao
@competitive_north280 3 ай бұрын
0:59 is he fucking serious? Arsenal on Saka’s back? jesus christ it’s like he’s the only player who plays for arsenal.
@MesterWilliam-ny9nq 3 ай бұрын
not now like 2-3 years ago
@aDsnow 3 ай бұрын
You definitely weren’t around during 2021 cause back then if Saka didn’t perform Arsenal didn’t either
@eeeminem9747 3 ай бұрын
He means when Saka first came into the team, before Edu and Arteta recruited an entire new team.
@competitive_north280 3 ай бұрын
@@aDsnow during 2021 sure, but it’s not like the entire club was on his back even during that time, and he definitely didn’t CARRY them to 2nd, that’s so disrespectful to other players.
@TheSideOfSpirit 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, 2-3 years ago when he was playing left back.
@TheUltimatewomble 3 ай бұрын
Don't think saka fancies playing in the championship with city
@bunnytan01 3 ай бұрын
They don’t want him
@marioknight5937 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@MGJK97 3 ай бұрын
The Gerrard comment lost me. WAFFLE.
@Airyed 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely both him and Foden are fantastic this narrative that only one of them is good is so annoying I hate that two young players are being used against each other
@Obolix101 3 ай бұрын
i know they are both class and will both have excellent careers imo
@akeemguy7331 3 ай бұрын
that's modern football fans for you... If i say one person is good.. People interpret that as me saying someone else is bad.. A player is either great or sh*t these days.. no in between,.
@virtualcity721 3 ай бұрын
Saka is way better, Foden is not even better than Palmer
@kurtsudheim825 3 ай бұрын
They're on slickly divergent paths, but exactly, getting to make it look like one isn't great because the other is better is cheap. Shows me more what a useless thing rio is, as bad as Jamie, both car & red knapsack
@kurtsudheim825 3 ай бұрын
@@virtualcity721yes he is, don't be thick, Cole looks great because he's standing out at Chelsea who are horrendous
@jammers1996yido 3 ай бұрын
Bale at 22 had: UEFA TOTY 2011 Carling Cup Winner 08 PFA POTY 10/11 2 Times Prem TOTY Name me a single game or moment that Saka has had that's comparable to: Hattrick vs Inter at the San Siro 2010 Destorying the world champions Inter at White Hart Lane 2010 Goal vs Stoke 2010 Dragging Spurs into the Champions League 09/10 Back-to-back MOTM Performances vs Chelsea and Arsenal to put Spurs 4th in April when Man City was favourites in 09/10 MOTM vs Arsenal at the Emirates, scoring the first goal in a 2-3 come back win in 2010 Championship TOTS 2007 All that happened before he was 22... Bale's team in he's last season at Spurs consisted of Michael Dawson, Clint Dempsey, Assou-Ekotto, Tom Huddlestone, Scott Parker, and Adebayor as Starters lmao.
@kylesmyle4907 3 ай бұрын
Bale levels above mate don’t lower yourself to these mental arsenal fans.
@user-bq2tc6dh6t 3 ай бұрын
bale only had a handful of great seasons he didn’t looked arse half the time
@jakecollin5499 3 ай бұрын
I thought you were being a bit harsh but when you listed those starters he had …you win 😂. I loved Clint Dempsey but fuck that’s a tough lineup
@user-rh1iv7yp2c 3 ай бұрын
This comment is reaching for the most part. Individual awards, sure but the rest is some some goals and some one off games. You could fill out a list doing the same thing with any player. Also did you even watch football back then? Adebayor was a top striker so I don't know why you're mentioning him like he was rubbish. Scott Parker wasn't bad either.
@CliffordCT76 3 ай бұрын
This is not how you think every day. Saka won FA cup when he was 18,that's just a bare minimum
@princekweyama3693 3 ай бұрын
Yes, He’s Wrong you can’t possibly Justify Foden being World Class and Saka not being world class aswell. It’s either there both world class or there both not there yet.
@akeemguy7331 3 ай бұрын
That only makes sense if someone believes they are equal..
@CrossxFir3 3 ай бұрын
That doesn't make sense. One is in the midfield and one is a winger.
@ShiftDrift-kh6wb 3 ай бұрын
You're clueless
@princekweyama3693 3 ай бұрын
@@CrossxFir3 lol Fodens only been playing midfield consistently this season and even then Pep didn’t trust him in there vs Chelsea other than that Foden has always been playing across the front 3 as a forward
@drep9028 3 ай бұрын
If, could have, maybe....all hypothetical. Foden is a treble winner and stepped up in KDB absence. Without hypotheticals...there's no comparison
@khabibsson7122 3 ай бұрын
Saka is nowhere near the Neymar hazard bale level let alone Messi Ronaldo, he’s not better than foden either, he’s a quality player but there are levels
@obadiahsamuel9278 3 ай бұрын
Listen to their argument closely....at 22 is what they're talking about not Saka matching their careers
@khabibsson7122 3 ай бұрын
@@obadiahsamuel9278 bale at 22 was winning PFA awards and terrorizing the league, Neymar got his move to Barcelona after winning it all in Brazil, Hazard won the league for Lille
@matthewchandler8255 3 ай бұрын
Saka gets less credit (compared to past players) because he is in no way flashy. Robhino was considered great at one point mostly because he was flashy
@prometheustv6558 3 ай бұрын
@@obadiahsamuel9278at 22 he’s nowhere near them
@elderado1623 3 ай бұрын
The foden slander is egregiously stupid. Saka is great, but he’s not good enough to warrant this level of foden disrespect
@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051 3 ай бұрын
When City needs and LW, RW, CAM, CM and false 9, Foden is always there to answer. Them saying Saka is carrying Arsenal is more of disrespect to Odegard, Rice, Partey, Saliba even i can argue for Jesus and Zinny coz they are the ones who motivated them to challenge for the title.
@yetundeadeyemi2436 3 ай бұрын
People only like foden because he's on best team itw but at the same time is underperforming, especially compared to how Saka has been
@samwheaton8591 3 ай бұрын
@@yetundeadeyemi2436dumbest comment I’ve ever heard
@TrapSection 3 ай бұрын
How about this argument. Do you think Saka would've made his way through the City roster? I'd say absolutely not. Over Mahrez? Come on.
@tomashehir 3 ай бұрын
He would’ve been rotated, in the same way Foden was.
@benhoughton7009 3 ай бұрын
He’s better than Mahrez cmon
@samwheaton8591 3 ай бұрын
@@benhoughton7009omg I can’t stand arsenal fans. Have a word with yourself
@yearo77 3 ай бұрын
I support neither team and Saka is world class. For Arsenal he has been fabulous and had a dip like most do but now is back on form. But the true test is watch him for England he is usually one of or if not Englands best players. Where Foden never is. Against France in the World Cup he unplayable.
@danielainger8666 3 ай бұрын
Saka is not world class, people throw that word around.
@yearo77 3 ай бұрын
@@danielainger8666 that’s your opinion. Like it is Rio’s, but if Foden is then Saka definitely is.
@AJ-nd4nk 3 ай бұрын
@@yearo77Neither are world class.
@welshwizardzzz423 3 ай бұрын
18:10 “I’m telling you now it’s coming” - home.
@maninform3523 3 ай бұрын
"saka is already hazard level" and they wonder why they get ridiculed as a fanabase, ffs its not about G/A, saka is close to even being as good as hazard are you mad ? he is a good reliable young winger, he's like a young sterling, so please chill
@benhoughton7009 3 ай бұрын
Way better than Sterling cmon 😅😭
@MaximilianXXX 3 ай бұрын
He's definitely not Hazard level, but he is better than young Sterling (when he was at Liverpool). Saka offers more defensively, which is key to Arsenal's high press.
@garysmith1206 3 ай бұрын
As an England fan I don't care who's better. I'm just glad they are both English.
@kylesmyle4907 3 ай бұрын
Can’t start them both as we need to save places for Hendo and the Yorkshire Pirlo
@user-bq2tc6dh6t 3 ай бұрын
saka is nigerian
@garysmith1206 3 ай бұрын
@@user-bq2tc6dh6t You're either thick ,a troll or a bot which is it?
@garysmith1206 3 ай бұрын
@@kylesmyle4907 Is that you Gareth?
@garysmith1206 3 ай бұрын
@@user-bq2tc6dh6t You're ether thick, a troll or a bot. Which is it?
@kaaaiga 3 ай бұрын
The council estate/ private school analogy is actually spot on
@Mana-vv6vp 3 ай бұрын
Did I just hear BUKAYO SAKA can reach Ronaldo’s level?????
@obadiahsamuel9278 3 ай бұрын
Nah, they're trying to make comparison at age 22. Not a career
@wtw03 3 ай бұрын
Any record Can be broken by anyone
@TheMufc123 2 ай бұрын
@@obadiahsamuel9278he literally said there is no reason he can't make it to Ronaldos level. He isn't ever going to be that level and it's embarrassing for him to think that 😂
@kkkk-hh1ur 3 ай бұрын
Fooden is more talented if he was at Arsenal he would be there best player
@ndola2252 3 ай бұрын
No he wouldn't.
@rayleighbaldr_d2125 3 ай бұрын
I agree. If you look at Cole Palmer at Chelsea, you would think he world class but he was playing from the bence for Man City.
@zombie-xj7gc 3 ай бұрын
BS
@123kaired 3 ай бұрын
Footballers aren't allowed to do them moments like running from the halfway line nowadays. Managers don't allow it as its not optimal
@dagzey 3 ай бұрын
as a liverpool fan ..i think saka is better than foden
@kylesmyle4907 3 ай бұрын
Ronaldo wasn’t a stats monster in his first 5 years of professional football. Let’s revisit the conversation in 10 years after Saka never even reaches world class level, never mind top 5 footballers EVER.
@CTrillions 3 ай бұрын
He’s already worldclass u melt
@kylesmyle4907 3 ай бұрын
@@CTrillions is he bollocks you silly little sausage 😂😂😂
@JimmyWashingtonII 3 ай бұрын
You can't your opinion onto people. @@CTrillions
@CTrillions 3 ай бұрын
@@JimmyWashingtonII not an opinion it’s Facts
@kurtsudheim825 3 ай бұрын
I think a big issue for ska is he didn't have pace, not saying he's slow, but i can't recall seeing him blitz down the line like gareth in that final against barca
@KingDD2012 3 ай бұрын
No he’s not wrong, next question
@simonmuller2206 3 ай бұрын
Is this show a full podcast?
@cp_vaughny5000 3 ай бұрын
At 22 Rashford was in his 2nd season of 30+ goals and assists. At 22, this season is going to be Saka’s first. As with Rashford then, Saka is a top PL player but still has to progress to be mentioned in the same breath as Hazard, Bale etc.
@NphiniT 3 ай бұрын
Facts! I just hate that progressing usually means moving to Madrid or Bayern or Barca. I hope we can give him medals at Arsenal
@mhgooner9546 3 ай бұрын
Why you lying for? At 22 he had 1 season where he contributed to 30 goals and assists.
@cp_vaughny5000 3 ай бұрын
@@mhgooner9546 I’m not, all comps, when you’ve looked it up you can come back and I will accept an apology 😀.
@mhgooner9546 3 ай бұрын
You're getting your dates wrong lol. At 22 it was his first season to get 30+. @@cp_vaughny5000
@sludgepuppy 3 ай бұрын
Ronaldo's numbers at the start of his career weren't reflective of what he was to become. In his early days, people thought Ronaldo was gonna be a flop, if you remember correctly. Don't get ahead of yourself.
@NphiniT 3 ай бұрын
True. Quaresma was the hype in Portugal, not Ronaldo. Last 2 seasons at Man Utd he became a different player (And Messi too after the 2008 Olympics).
@Naveen-rl1jv 3 ай бұрын
I expect this to be a completely unbiased debate
@charlieyates7231 3 ай бұрын
Can you please start posting the game highlight reactions from the stream again
@Pbaggysmalls 3 ай бұрын
Glad to be back
@miguelsedda378 3 ай бұрын
This is what i call a great footballing conversation!!!! 👏👏👏
@ForestPantherGod 3 ай бұрын
Will definitely pick Saka over Foden. Hate both Man City and Arsenal but there's a clear difference between the two. Foden is a Pep system player. Saka can play in any team.
@TalkToEmCam 3 ай бұрын
The term world class gets used WAYYYY too often. I personally think it should be reserved for who without any question walk into any team's starting XI. With that said, I feel like there are only a handful of current players that actually should be labeled world class. There's been a big drop off in these kinds of players since the 2020s started
@roronoalaw7772 3 ай бұрын
World class for me also means you should be able to start for any team or be within the five best players in the world in your position
@NphiniT 3 ай бұрын
I believe it has to do with how robotic the system has gotten. Players have less freedom to express themselves. They have to follow instructions. If Dirk Kuyt (for instance) played in this era, he would have been in discussion for world class. But he was just a very good team player. Most hyped players these days are just very good at executing their coaches' instructions. Which is great. But truly world class players used to force the game to revolve around them. We don't have much of that anymore.
@benedictharrison2819 3 ай бұрын
@@roronoalaw7772more like top 3 in your position.
@mhgooner9546 3 ай бұрын
@@benedictharrison2819So there was only 3 world class strikers when Suarez, Aguero, Benzema, Ibra, Lewandowski, Cavani, Kane where all playing at their best?
@OfficialJStarr 3 ай бұрын
That private school vs estate analogy was a bit mad, but very true 😂😂😂
@Birdman65907 3 ай бұрын
Saka scored 4 pens this season so on the same amount of open play goals as Foden.
@allanmburu15 3 ай бұрын
Assists carries him above foden
@prometheustv6558 3 ай бұрын
And Foden has been playing as a midfielder
@thatgeekdad 3 ай бұрын
Saka doesn't have the mentality to see himself as the carrier of Arsenal. You don't need to be as cocky as M'bappe, which he got for winning the WC at 18, but he needs to start getting that swag of Beckham, Ibhra, and Ronaldo when he was leaving United. He is too humble.
@Stayfocused365 3 ай бұрын
“Doesn’t have the mentality”,Do you know the guy 🤡
@prometheustv6558 3 ай бұрын
@@Stayfocused365I saw him at the Etihad, under all that pressure he was nowhere to be seen
@inhok5190 3 ай бұрын
if Saka wins either the prem or the champions league with Arsenal, then you can consider him in that level of Bale and Hazard with another 3-5 years of 25 G/A+ a season but if he goes to City or Madrid, he’s at the level of Sterling
@kizmutyaba4965 3 ай бұрын
Cant really dispute that
@avuzwamrwebi3508 3 ай бұрын
What team trophy has Jude won so far?
@keyshawnwilliams2929 3 ай бұрын
While foden was competing against mahrez, David Silva, bernado silva, sané, kdb, yaya. Saka was competing against?. The boy would have been rotated and loaned out at city because of his lack of versatility. Foden can literally play4/5 positions even played striker at one point. Believe me in 10 years foden will have the much better career.
@DanoFSmith-yc9tg 3 ай бұрын
I think Robben or Henry is a really good comparison, easily a top 10 of his generation, just maybe not a top 3 type talent.
@lgc9652 3 ай бұрын
if we’re comparing saka to foden I see it like this. on the ball I think foden is technically better. He pick up positions where there’s nobody close to him similar to David Silva but he’s light weight. Saka is Physically really strong as well as having unbelievable strength and willing to go shoulder to shoulder with people. If we’re saying who do I want to start for england i’m taking saka all day long.
@CharmyCharmCharm 3 ай бұрын
That was great advice at the end
@19KingCal95 3 ай бұрын
Bale moved to Real Madrid just turned 24 due to his form the 2 years prior comparing them at that age theres no comparison Bale all day
@funisanartform 3 ай бұрын
Bro lost so much credibility saying Saka can compare to Ronaldo. Ronaldo was a monster once things clicked. Saka will be in the superstar category of your Modrics, Alexis', Di Marias.
@akeemguy7331 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Balon D'or Modric? Man said "will be" not even "could"
@nightlight6917 3 ай бұрын
Modric level the one that has a balon d’or and five champion leagues 😂
@Bradley.433 3 ай бұрын
I love saka, I think he offers so much to our attack but as a forward to be considered world class by everyone you need world class ball striking. Right now he’s getting better at it, but he’s still got a massive room for improvement there, if he keeps developing his ball striking that’s when no one will question if he’s world class.
@adityatiwary2221 3 ай бұрын
Foden is far and away a better footballer than Saka.
@user-rh1iv7yp2c 3 ай бұрын
Foden isn't even far and away a better footballer than Bowen nevermind Saka
@BeansBeansBeans 3 ай бұрын
Based on what? Technical flair?
@ktmsnoop 3 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s just your opinion man
@ndola2252 3 ай бұрын
Yeah right. That's why one is one of the first names on teamsheet for club and country and the other is mostly rotated. I guess these managers don't know as much as you do! Lol 😅.
@Mavolovolo-zc4lm 3 ай бұрын
@@TwoBlokesOneBall Foden technically is by far better than Saka
@oliverfrost2430 3 ай бұрын
Let’s not disrespect Messi and Ronaldo. Coming from an Arsenal fan. However, I think Saka will become a 45g+a a season player. His season on season progression is incredible and it’s due to his attitude. It’s a strength not a weakness. Always learning, always growing. He can surpass Hazard.
@vvs_mordecaiencrypt8012 3 ай бұрын
If Saka played for Man City,you guys are not considering the fact that Foden had to wait and was not getting as much game time,Saka was thrown into the first team and was getting a lot of minutes under his belt,if he was in Fodens circumstances we don’t know if he would be what he is today
@lukesullivan5576 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha immediately bottled it on that stevie g point
@matthewhedge2893 3 ай бұрын
This idea that Saka put Arsenal is a complete myth lol he has been a very good player and one of their best players but to stay he has carried them isn’t true
@lezdrake3629 3 ай бұрын
lads Bale was destroying it as a left back at Southampton before he moved to Tottenham, he was a mercurial talent at a very young age
@bassiatukamara3539 3 ай бұрын
How many goals do Saka and Foden each has for the national team?
@Mavolovolo-zc4lm 3 ай бұрын
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@nonder92 3 ай бұрын
Foden and Saka both need big time moments in big time matches to be considered world class. I think right now (setting aside medals and trophies) Saka has produced a little bit more of those big moments but he hasn’t been part of many big time matches yet outside the prem league until this year. It’s all really subjective really.
@kurtsudheim825 3 ай бұрын
So scoring against spurs, man & city, lvpl... & for national side at a tournament didn't count for big moments? Well enlighten me as to what you do count as big moments
@nonder92 3 ай бұрын
@@kurtsudheim825 don’t get all butt hurt, I’m a gunner too amigo. I meant as far as exposure goes, Foden I think has had more exposure to big matches earlier on in his career like the champions league as well as being around some truly world class talent at city. Saka had to grow with the talent and system that was brought in by arteta. That being said I really think saka just beats Foden because I think saka would be even more efficient and effective than Foden if he was at city instead. Regardless, both still need more big matches to keep proving it. I think saka is a bit more consistent but it’s hard to stand out in any of peps systems unless you’re debruyne or Messi lol
@mavsworld1733 3 ай бұрын
So where are Haalands moments? Didn't see any in the FA cup final or Champions league final. Saw a lot of Rodri and KDB though. Yet everyone goes on about him.
@nonder92 3 ай бұрын
@@mavsworld1733 I agree, Haaland is a glorified poacher and that’s pretty much it. He’ll only have a chance at league titles and champions league medals. Try to stay on topic though lol kdb and Silva are world class because they are always consistent. I think saka is more consistent than Foden and if he were at city instead he would definitely be more efficient than Phil but they are in different positions so it’s not a true 1 to 1 comparison. It’s hard to stand out in a pep team unless you’re kdb or Messi lol regardless, I’m taking saka because I think he is someone who can really take over when needed and he’s shown a lot of maturity when it mattered especially after missing such a vital pk on an international stage.
@mavsworld1733 3 ай бұрын
@@nonder92 I agree, but everyone seems to think that Haaland is world class, so I don't really see how people can agree that, and then make demands of Saka, that Haaland doesn't fulfill. It seems like shifting the goal posts.
@floatinrocktubetalk3768 3 ай бұрын
Rio had a howler. Saka is definitely the better player. Those stats show that Saka is overhated and actually better than he gets credit for.
@matthewchandler8255 3 ай бұрын
He's not flashy... quietly extremely effective
@callumjames8746 3 ай бұрын
'Bale didn't look as good as Saka at 22'. Gareth Bale turned 22 ahead of the 2011/12 season, where he got 30 goals and assists in 42 games for Tottenham, which is better than any individual season Saka has put together. Even at 21, Bale scored a hattrick against treble winners Inter, which is still more iconic than anything Saka has done in his career to date. The absolute lack of ball knowledge is astounding.
@catfishpoptart8895 3 ай бұрын
Can we just let him be Saka? These comparisons are outrageous.
@andymore62 3 ай бұрын
People just hate on him because he plays with a lot of power and quick little moves rather than dribbling like Neymar or Ronaldinho, but ultimately, he gets the ball to the spaces where it needs to go, has good vision, works his ass of in defense, and he has become a pretty lethal finisher. He does it all at a high level.
@DonWan47 3 ай бұрын
To close to call. Saka vs Foden is a tight race but Foden has had the better teammates and coaches.
@roronoalaw7772 3 ай бұрын
Saka has been better for England
@DonWan47 3 ай бұрын
@@roronoalaw7772 They’re both excellent. I feel uncomfortable taking sides.
@NphiniT 3 ай бұрын
Their stats are actually equal if you remove Saka's 4 penalties. So I would say they're equal 😅
@ndola2252 3 ай бұрын
You don't remove penalties they are part of football and a legitimate source of goals if you are deemed good enough quality to take them for your team. Saka is.
@NphiniT 3 ай бұрын
@@ndola2252 I agree. I'm just saying they're pretty equal stats-wise at the moment
@joey-jp3wd 3 ай бұрын
That Arsenal fans acts like Saka's been playing for Torquay united for the past 5 year
@markm1419 3 ай бұрын
He was playing with trash players though like mustafi Kolasinac Bellerin chambers Torreira guendouzi lacazette
@cameronwilliams301 3 ай бұрын
It’s actually incredibly disrespectful to put saka into any version of ronaldo conversations.
@kk2bad 3 ай бұрын
Arsenal fan here. Completely agree with Saka comments. Also Gerrard was world class from day one to the last. I think the young guy showing his age as if you lived through Gerrard era you would know this
@thefansfootball 3 ай бұрын
FYI I'm an Arsenal fan. Saka for me doesn't have the personality to be the number 1 guy, but for me he is the ultimate teammate. The levels of Luiz Suarez, Benzema and Modric.
@NphiniT 3 ай бұрын
I think you're used to confident and/or arrogant players. Saka can be number 1 just the way he is.
@ndola2252 3 ай бұрын
Clueless. He is a humble and very well grounded young man who is and will go far. Shy and retiring he is not.
@tomashehir 3 ай бұрын
Both top quality players. Saka for me but that’s just my opinion.
@dveryblueblood 3 ай бұрын
People should lay this tiring argument to rest. Does it really matter who is better? Both are very good players.
@juggernaut2035 3 ай бұрын
Saka has brilliant output and even when he doesn't produce GA, he tends to play well but he can't win a game by himself like a Messi, Ronaldo, Hazard could
@lmostayoutuber 3 ай бұрын
Saka has good stats but he could easily go up another level, if he improves on his weaker foot and heading, also work on his consistency of crosses, the only way is up
@nevzy619 3 ай бұрын
3 years max if that even medals won’t keep him there not once the lure of a big club comes calling
@joshufo9959 3 ай бұрын
Chelsea fans talk about Hazard as if he was a Balon D'or winner 😂
@njabulomashilwane4731 3 ай бұрын
Notice how only City players get taxed when it comes to comparisons with other players. It's either they are system players or they play with better players
@matthewchandler8255 3 ай бұрын
Saka to me... doesnt have a skillset that will diminish greatly... hes not doing 20 stepovers and beating dudes. Hes sorta quietly effective. My fear is that he stays exactly the same, but thats still very good. His secret weapon is how good he is with his off (right) foot
@samwheaton8591 3 ай бұрын
Foden having to break in to one of the best sides ever with a coach who will ONLY play you if you’re at his level while also playing in a position he doesn’t prefer for YEARS and only now that he is being allowed to play centrally he’s arguable been City’s best this season. Also the G/A argument is so dumb. Saka is deigsnated pen taker, meanwhile foden has to share stats with haaland, KDB and the like. Saka can also quite easily get marked out of a game.
@trashed4005 3 ай бұрын
I genuinely would love Foden at Arsenal. He'd be a better Wilshere with less injuries. Also comparing the two is stupid because they should ideally be in the same team.
@Arbizunuila 3 ай бұрын
the disrespect to Gerrard lmao
@joey1547 3 ай бұрын
I got a headache from this comparison
@TomDeLaCruz 3 ай бұрын
Geordies heavy breathing into the mic when he talks should be mentioned... le him know his inhales are loud as fuck, pls
@sheylo3616 3 ай бұрын
Lmaoooooooo
@user-jk9we8tl8p 3 ай бұрын
I find the comparison of Saka and Foden very similar to that of salah and hazard. Hazard (like Foden) was always more talented and better on the eye but can't argue with salahs efficiency. Obviously they're not at them levels yet but similar stylistically.
@taylena1235 3 ай бұрын
These argument if they take him out is so stupid people always do it with scholes lampard gerrard as well we could even say if foden was in arsenal they could be doing even better then what they are doing now its sooo stupid
@Joshwaheazo 3 ай бұрын
I remember Ronaldo in the premier league. I'm from Brighton so I didn't actually have a premier league team, I just hated how smug United fans were so I supported whoever they were playing every week. When Ronaldo got 42 goals from the left wing that was unheard of. It was annoying how good he was. He actually won the ballon dor; only two Premier League players have done that not even TiTi. Was so glad when he left 🤭.
@Pbaggysmalls 3 ай бұрын
Very very good discussion finally some sense when it comes to saka. Kudos
@daniellegesse8907 3 ай бұрын
I never wanna bear anyone ask "what was Salah doing at 22" because he was grew up in Egypt which so much worse than England in a league that just got cancelled. If Saka was Egyptian he never makes it not even close. You can't compare the two upbringings.
@wayneholness6090 3 ай бұрын
Waffle
@taz454 3 ай бұрын
Classic example of overhyping your team's player in Saka.
@xkgq97x15 3 ай бұрын
Surely it’s harder for foden to make it in the city team than saka who plays every week in an arsenal team
@DarkArterialGore 3 ай бұрын
While I can't deny that Saka is super effective from a statistical point of view at Arsenal, when you compare his technique to other elite left footed attackers like Messi, Bernardo Silva or Foden he's a few steps below as his touch is much heavier & his close control is always so far away from his body.
@ndola2252 3 ай бұрын
Yeah mate he's a shocking player. He just happens to be one of the most technically gifted young players in the world. But a moron wouldn't see that.
@fabianbest8496 3 ай бұрын
This is absolutely outrageous!!! The disrespect to Foden. Foden is a starter for Arsenal 1000%
@jordandumehlezimthombeni1051 3 ай бұрын
When Man City needs an LW, RW, CAM, CM and false 9, Foden is there to answer. The question is that can SAKA offer that for Man City? Foden can play the RW position for Arsenal. So Foden can do what Saka does for Arsenal but Saka cant do that for City
@astro9219 3 ай бұрын
Saka didn’t lose England that shootout. Penalties were missed before Saka stepped up and England were trailing.
@alexfielding7191 3 ай бұрын
No because everyone's definition of world class differs, Rio's is obviously on the stricter side.
@cormacomalley4422 3 ай бұрын
I'm a Liverpool fan, but I love this kid Saka, completely agree that Arsenal over last 5 years is down to him ... Think rashford feeling when he came through for that boost and then actually constantly perform! To improve with the team year on year ..... Has Ballon dor potential.... Liverpool is the move 😉 Salah replacement? 🤔
@cormacomalley4422 3 ай бұрын
The comparison should be Bernardo Silva
@msa-uk 3 ай бұрын
Great debate on Saka. The boy is the Man....
@hellguys1372 3 ай бұрын
The Fact that there is a hesitation if Foden Gets in the Arsenal team is a joke, Foden literally filled Debruyne's position who is one of the best Attacking midfielders in the history premier league. If you want to be considered a "world Class Player" you need to perform in big stages, Saka is just starting to play in UCL
@arturokuna3623 3 ай бұрын
Comparing saka to hazard is criminal
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