Once you see something you cannot unsee. That is the triumph of science.

So this has been our problem from the very beginning that we bring religion into everything…..Science is Science Politics is Politics and Religion is Religion please for God’s sake do NOT mix them together! Religion is everyone’s personal matter and keep that to yourself……🙏

Salute to the First Questioner for his daring to question such basic things which are hard to even speak in Pakistan. People are murdered and lynched on this.

Questioning and analysis is very important for human being. If that is stopped then we stop progress.

Hoodbhoy is wrong is saying that threre was no science before 712 ad when Muhammad bin quasim came there was no science. There was science before islam and before quasim came to india. India had made advance in mathematics and astronomy. Well is not very well versed in indian history, he is heavily influended by western interpretation of indian history. Sad reality why pakistan is behind science.

Ibn e Rushd was an Ex Muslim..Pervez Hoodbhoy knows this but he did not mention ExMuslim in the lecture otherwise he would have been declared a Gustakh in Pakistan

Religion is based on Faith and Science is based on Reason. Asha’arites emphasised Faith and Mutallazites Reason. The two domains are mutually exclusive. I agree with Dr Sahib that this question will always remain unanswered. Wonderful examples of Sir Syed and Iqbal, one started from point A and ended up at Point B and the other just its opposite. I think the prevailing circumstances and individual’s psychology play a big role.

I wish that when questions are raised the individual gives his name and qualification. At 1:08:00 a young person asked a series of well thought out questions. He articulated his questions well. I am amazed. I wish the young gentleman all the best. And in a decade or two we are going to hear more about him

It's not understood as to why Muslim invaders destroyed ancient libraries ? Centres of learning, like Taxila and Nalanda were destroyed.

1.05.30 The questioner puts a blasphemy trap. Possibly because it would not have been the first time, the Professor responds in the most simplest & safest yet sophisticated fashion and closes it with the clearest, stunning yet painless knock out punch. Leaving the questioner with the choice to regress and remain frozen in Mohammed’s time, or progress with time.

Science and islam are poles apart😂

Wonderful teacher ❤

The question should be: Is Islam compatible with science? Not the other way around.

The title of the discussion itself is wrong. Science has been around forever. Islam is like a newborn child in front of science. The title should be - Is Islam compatible with SCIENCE.

Hardly any audience. Still I salute Prof. Hudhbhoy's efforts

Faith and reasoning are poles apart

The title of the video should be exactly opposite. Is Islam compatible with Science ?

Very nice lecture in the beginning ! Balanced speech !!

Cause and happening, Illat and Maalool, that can be seen by the naked eye, but there are certain happening you don't see, that's where you start believing in the unseen world, or the prayers what we find in all religions of the world,

@ Pervez Hoodbouy Please read what following physicists have said about Vedas and Bhagavad Gita : 1 Erwin Schrödinger 2.Werner Heisenberg, 3. Robert Oppenheimer, 4. Niels Bohr, 5. Carl Sagan, 6. NikolaTesla, 7 Albert Einstein If you want to know what exactly these physicists have said about vedas and Bhagavad Gita please let me know so that you can enlighten yourself and stop criticism of what you are completely ignorant about !

Kisne kah diya Hinduism me 5000 khuda h mtlb kuch bhi Iswar ek hi h. Vo khooda nhi h Avtaar h Ise aap kuch had tk nbiyo se jod skte h To kya m ye kh du Ki islam me 1 lakh khooda h.

Islam is not against science or local cultures and traditions; therefore this topic is just confusing the conversation. First need to understand what Islam is as it gives us guidance and moral values and science is totally different topic and is not unIslamic. In this discussion only hearsay Islam is being discussed but not real Islam

In the context of Pakistan, the history of Science in the Indian Sub Continent in which one of the oldest civilization existed and the oldest documented science scriptures exists, Pakistan which happened to be a part of India until the last 75 years, why intellectuals in Pakistan shy away from accepting and discussing the legacy of India which they should also be proud of. Pakistan not being part of the Middle East should identify more as from India. I am not saying that Pakistan doesn't have its own identity, but should acknowledge it as the son from the same mother and so discuss the inheritances of the legacies of science and mathematics with its young minds and not disconnect with it due to differences in faith. I wish All the very Best.

Dr sb hamesha mazhab ko os k origin k bjae 'mazhabi' logoN k farmudat, ihmaal ore history k lihaz se dekhtay haiN.

number system including zero was invented in India and such other scientific knowledge went to Arab and from there to Europe then how it can be said that Indian knowledge to Arab was very less, even Aristotle had asked Alexander that when he reached India to enquire about the learned schoolers in India who were very famous in Yunan.

ھود بھائ صاحب کی کتاب مسلم اور سائنس بھی اس موضوع پر پر اثر کتاب ہے۔

What I understand by the word compatibility means ability to co exist without conflict. To me the Quran doesn't challenge science. Rather it emphasis to think logically over the universe. Moreover the religion just gives broad guidelines on life and the universe and let it to the human to explore.

All i can say is Pervez ji is not that knowledgeable as it is potrayed..... Books from Nalanda and Udantapuri were initially translated even before the Bagdad University was developed

Psychology is the branch of science

I hope he is still alive after this seminar.

Root question for the pakistani muslims remains the same - how did Allah communicate with Nabi Musa ? If they can't give the simple answer then atleast they should treat good their fellow Hindus and christian and Sikh citizens well as the fellow humans.

1:04:30 that's why pakistan is number one in the world.

Karam sy bada dharam koi nahi hy

Never ,Science enhance the understanding of Islam but it requires a lot of observations, research and understanding of science.

Science and islam is opposite thing .Islam teaches u that earth is flat 😂😂. Instead read bhagawat Gita instead

Having heard some of the questions even Pervez Hoodbhoy realised that most of the audience is radicalised beyond repair 😢

I am a Vedantin (Hindu) but when I read the Buddhist and Jain version of creation if forced me to question everything. They asked a very logical question. They said that when you say that life and the World are too complex to not have been created by a God, then that God is even more complex how did it has no creator? How did that God created itself? Also, Jainism asks one more question that you say God existed before the creation of the World so where did He existed? In a certain space, that means even the space have an eternal existence so why can't the World be created by itself? Very deep.

This is very interesting discussion. But one point to be raised here: if Quran tells every thing what now science is, i.e. Allah, means world only came into existence just 1400yrs. While human races came thousands year before. Quran came only 1400yrs as given by Allah!

To know about how life originated on this earth read about Miller-Urey experiment. Also about Cambrian Explosion.

The professor definitely needs to get a bit more educated on Hinduism. Hindu Vedas believe there is one intelligent force due to which creation came to being you may call it by one name or 5000 names of your choice. Just because you call him by 5000 different names it does not mean there are 5000 Gods. It is your spiritual democratic individual right to call him by the name you choose. " Ekam Sat, Vipraha bahuda Vadanthi" Sanskrit "Reality is one and knowledgeable ones call it by different names"

Islam's worldview and history and social issues are so radically different from Hindu-Buddhist-Jain-Sikh that it is no surprise that partition happened. But it doesn't mean that 2-nation theory as laid out in 1947 made any sense, as it is too simplistic.

Science and religion are closely interconnected in the scientific study of religion, which can be traced back to seventeenth-century natural histories of religion. Natural historians attempted to provide naturalistic explanations for human behavior and culture, including religion and morality

Does a book in Islam that says earth is flat?

To pose this question and then waffle, when a young man frames a clear question on Darwin's theory being in contradiction with the Quran, is literally damaging the minds of the young...

No use playing music to deaf but hats off to you for trying to remove their blindfold

Once my teacher said "every scholar has a pitfall in which he once falls once a life", so do not be dependent upon a scholar in each sense. But I see Dr Hoodbhoy is remains always in pitfall and if he says something correctly, this is the exception of that status of being in a pitfall. So sad that this kind of great doctor is unaware of basic concepts of history of Muslims.

South Asian Islam is unique. Let’s take the marriage ceremony- it’s 90% Hindu amongst Muslims. I have read Quran a few times (in my view Maulana Wahiduddin Khan’s translation is the best). I’ve stayed in Indonesia and nearly all gulf countries. Their Islam is so different from ours. South Asian Muslims are struggling with a religious identity. As for religion- to be in this era has nothing to do with religion.

پرویز صاحب ۔ انسان کے دو پیراڈئم ہیں ، جن میں تبدیلی اُس کی عمر کے ساتھ ہوتی ہے ۔ ایک فزیکل پیرا ڈائم (جو حواسِ خمسہ ) جسے وہ کائینات میں ہونے والی تبدیلیوں کے ساتھ، وہ ساتھ تبدیل ہوتا ہے اور دوسرا سپرٹوئل پیرا ڈائم (الھام) جسے وہ اُس کے ماحول کےمطابق مثبت اور منفیت ترازو میں جانتا رہتا ہے ۔ جوکُلی طور پر کلیٹو کانشیئنس کے جھکاؤ پر منحصر ہے ۔ اگر کلیٹو کانشیئنسس مثبت ہے تو ثبوت کا پلڑا جھک جائے گا اور اگر کلیٹو کانشیئنسس منفی ہے تو انکار کا پلڑا جھک جائے گا ۔(خالد مہاجر زادہ)

Credit goes to the little girl who sat through the whole length of a high level science class. It is unmeaning to go for compatibility of science and religion. Religion is founded on belief which deals with material and moral world so far as those relate to humans. Whereas science is limited to exploration of truth about natural phenomena in our material world irrespective of humans, their values, belief, morality and life hereafter. In my view science also should be guided by morality and shouldn’t go for discoveries of things utterly destructive to humanity.

What's the need of the lengthy talk? The obvious answer is No!😅

The Prof doesn't seem to know that in Vedanta there is no duality. The thousands of God's he is referring to are deities representing different deities...whichever the form you choose to dwell on, no Hindu denies that all the varied forms all lead to the same ultimate Truth.

Magic phrase is Peaceful co-existance could work but only through the sharing of Values, of all ideologies of all times

Such a intelligent boy🎉

Ah people from this little Historically Converted society By Abrahamic Thought are fun to listen to.

Following an unchanging philosophy in a changing world is idiotic and foolish. Let's move from religion to responsibility. Thank you

Islam and science are two poles of a magnet, South pole and north pole. Do not try to bring them together.

The nub of the matter is that all 'revealed' religions which require one to SIMPLY BELIEVE are helpful, if at all, in organizing and ordering our earthly existence. To reach out in the direction of ultimate truth are the experiential ways of the great Seers/Rishis, Vedanta...and now Science & Quantum Physics are finding REALITY to be eerily close to the descriptions of the Rishis and in Buddhism [read Tao Of Physics, for example]

Dear sir, you should have mentioned Al Mawardi who was a bridge between the orthodox Greek philosophy and Sharia unlike Farabi who was his cotemporary and a vital exponent of Greek philosophical thought especially Aristotle

Seeing the dumb questions by the audience, Pakistan has no hope.

Medieval Islam was probably more compatible with science than modern Islam which has become more fundamentalistic and inward looking !!.

As per me Science is universal whereas religion is not universal.

I never reckoned Darwin Theory but after seeing Atta Tarard I belive Darwin was right. 😄😄😄

Biological psychology Physiological psychology

What a great minds 😜🙂😜😜🙂

Sir ye bata pakistanio ke liye bata rahe hai, views aur comments mein Indians hote hai. Pakistani lage hai apne jihad mein.

Religion Islam focus on one god, heaven, hell, day of judgement, sociology and some economics. It is responsibility of modern muslim world to prosper in modern world by education, learning, science, technology, economy and sociology etc. Problem is that muslims have stopped learning and expanding on knowledge and limited themselves to religion.

Sir I have a question but it is not related to this topic.. May I ask?

Some communities remained Jahils over the centuries and still continue to be so.

A single book cannot have all the wisdom in the world. This fanatism led to huge genocides in history.

Dr. Hoodboy had to waste 2hrs of his valuable time just because we don't accept the fact that its not religion's business to teach science to humanity and defenitely not Islam or quran's business to teach science to Muslims. The same reason why it is not science's business to prove existence of God/Gods or Allah. And why are we so insecure about Islam not being compatible with Science? Even if it is not compatible with science whats the big deal?

BSC psychology with congonative neuroscience at University of Nottingham faculty of natural science

Not at all.

Why only few views

Sir, should this not be other way around ?

Once our prophet Muhammad saws emerged from home to see two groups of people indulged in the debate of Qada w Qadr, thereupon prophet Muhammad saws showed his anger and said, Stop this silly discussion, if you don't you might continue till Doomsday,

whenever there is no mention or reference in Koran then one must find answer through science. e.g. if Koran is silent about using automobile, then you decide whether you want to use automobile.

Sorry to see that all questions are baseless. You follow a religion because you are born to parents who follow that religion. If you were shifted to a hindu parent or chrisian parent then you will follow their religion. It means religion has no control over your mind. However science is universal...... prove and this will be followed by everyone across the world.

Short and simple answer: No.

science gives proof for any things but that asmaani kitaab is based on hypothetical evidence…

Tehzibul Akhlaq by Sir Syed Ahmed Khan, but in today's time Mullaism remains the biggest challenge of Islam, Iqbal's booklet Iqbal Aur Mulla is the typical example of Mullaism explained by Iqbal,

Hindus haven't talked about sky book

Averroes or Ibn Rushd Mutazzila has contributed to put the heads together of all the 3 religions of Abrahamic traditions,

Did Baghdad city exist in 712 AD?

For Pakistan to make progress in Science or other fields, the country and the people need to embrace their Indian identity rather than claim some nonexistent arabic heritage. Indian heritage provides solid identity that gave Taxila university that was established in present day Pakistan. Your ancestors were not in the desert. They were in the fertile delta.

ابراہمک مذہب کاتعلق ابراہیم کے انتخاب (اسلام ۔ دین ملت ابراہیم ) سے شروع ہوتا ہے ۔ جس کا مقابلہ بتوں کی پرستش سے شروع تو ہو سکتا ہے ۔ سائنس سے نہیں ۔

It's ok that. You. Want. To educate Pakistani. Society about. Science but speak truth with all your heart sir I know you also afraid to open up in Pakistan society

Parvez Hoodbhoy don't defend your army, your koashish will never be recognized, because I am your student from India..!!

The reason for Pakistan’s current state of affairs can be summed up in the title of this discussion. The question should never be “Is Science compatible with religion, the question should be Is religion compatible with science”. The answer for most part will always be a resounding No. These books were written by people from that era and with their limited understanding of the world around them and it is clearly evident if you actually read the books. For a common man of that era, they were definitely advanced to some extent , but they cannot be compatible with our current understanding and expecting so is unfair as well. It is almost like expecting a first grader to have the same understanding of theoretical physics as a physicist with a PhD degree. We should aspire get lessons of morality, empathy and compassion from any of the religious books, but expecting them to solve science problems is utterly irrational. While we know that Life as we know it the most rarest thing in the universe, 80% of the world’s population is fighting over “whose invisible friend is better? And whose medieval books are the holiest?”. If we allocated even a portion this collective intellectual capital into science, imagine how advanced and rational our world would be. Instead of falling for rhetoric and brainwashing, everyone should think on their own and form opinions based on facts and objective understanding. I see divinity in the Hubble deep field picture, photograph of M81’s black hole, 20 billion transistors being printed on a 1 square inch of an apple’s M3 chip, the LHC and the JWST. Sit back and try to understand the universe around you and the awe it can inspire.

Kya Pakistan jaljle or Turkey ke jaljle me jo log mre vo paapi the ya us area me paap bd gya tha Or allah ne un pr aejab laya.

Throw Quran leave Islam then understand Vigyaan..If u want to know Science read or watch Science books or teacher if u Want to Understand Quran then Watch or listen ExMuslim..

Human science is empirical. It only believes in things that we can percieve through any of our five senses or the instruments that we have made to extend them. Yet Allah talks about the other creation like angels and jinn whose existance cannot be proved scientifically.

True religion is about how to live ethically here on earth and not primarily about what happens after death.

In my opinion Dr Hoodbhoy has a shallow knowledge about Dr Iqbal's Reconstruction of religious thoughts in Islam, Iqbal knew very well about the negative impact of Greek philosophy,

Thus, under the protection of westerners, he got rid off mullahs fear to act and think like his masters to prefix his name with SIR.

OMG what a question

راجہ رام موہن بنگال میں جدید رجحانات کا آغاز کر چکے تھے جس کے بعد دھلی کالج میں رام چندر نے اس کی پیروی کی۔

Can Kafir ask some questions?

Last line - Don't take them seriously.

I wish those parents had brought a book or comic or smartphone for the young girl child in the front row. Even this highly enriching talk must have been such a torture for the young one!!!

according to islam earth is flat