We use SolidJS for all our projects now in combination with tRPC and Turborepo. It has been really simple to transition from React to SolidJS.

I really hope it takes off. I've already made a project with it and, after the initial wtf of components not rerendering, I found it really enjoyable and easy.

Do you have series on SolidJS? If not, do you plan creating? I am following your videos from years now and you have the best content !

Such a great explanation on both frameworks. Right down to what they are, and so easy to digest. Very informative video. Thanks 🙏

I’ve been using Solid for like 8 months. Yes. It’s better React.

I am more excited about this taking off than anything else going on in JavaScript land right now. This is so damn good.

I was about the dismiss SolidJS as another one of dozen JS Frameworks but boy I'm sold. This is so much better than React's weird mental model. No more jumping through the hoops for simple things like setting states or timeouts etc.

As a frontend dev with 10 years experience, keep your professional tech stack to one side and new tech on the other. Then use your new tech stack in your personal projects.

Thank you for the concise overview. That was exactly what I needed!

I've played with it a few days, and so far: YES, it is a better React.

Yes, for the most part, SolidJS _is_ the better ReactJS.

i was trying to remeber you and then i remember that i learned the angular from you it was a great great course thank you so much for that

bruh solidjs signals are a bliss, no pesky state managers like redux recoil or some shiiit

That was an amazing breakdown Max, thank you!

I love the lack of infinite loop React Hooks has lol the loading and error utilities are nice too

looking forward to this course

I’ve been waiting for you to create a course on it. Won’t touch it more then the basics until you drop a course!😂 maybe wait until ‘solidstart’ is ready to be released.

Honestly, if your starting from the ground up and your app is a SPA -- use Solid. I had to completely re-write a bunch of code for a company I work for and looking back at this moment I kind of wish our small team used this as a framework. React's ecosystem being massive it's so much easier to find developers with existing skills/familiarity of tools in the React World (eg MUI, React Query, SWR, Zustand, React Tables... I can go on). I'm sure a group of us developers could of designed our own styled components with similar functionality to what we aimed for or another example would be create a system that mimics say Zustands state management, but with clients requests and time being the enemy -- it wouldn't be wise IMO to adapt and adopt (at the time). I think Solid has a bright future and if it comes a time our group has a different project or we say screw what we got lets spend two weeks and rewrite this -- Solid will be my first choice for it's simplicity + additional performance. Im exited to see a metaframework like NextJS stem off Solid (like SvelteKit has evolved too)

SolidJS sounds pretty ... solid.

Good to hear your voice again :)

Switched to Svelte, really loving it! Solid JS seems to a great alternative for React!

thanks for valuble suggestions

It sounds like Svelte but with crappier syntax. :)

This guy is a great explainer 😊

Max, the fact that you have always popularized the React since you started your Academy, and the fact that you have recently written your book about React, I couldn't really understand how you decided to record this video and share your ideas with us about SolidJS and tell us that SolidJS is a better ReactJS. )) but, just wanna tell you that you are really an honest person, in my opinion, actually too much )) God bless you.

I made the mistake of trying SolidStart and now I'm porting my SvelteKit project over to it -- even with SolidStart being beta, I'm sold on it . Nothing against SvelteKit -- wonderful framework! -- but I prefer the JSX/TSX syntax and not having my routes littered with Page files, and even though requires a little more effort, I prefer Solids state model. Both frameworks (Svelte/Solid) make coding fun again , and more productive.

hey max, hope you make more videos like the type of this one, have a good day.

Svelte kit next please

I tried to use SolidJS for my projects and I will definitely use it for future ones! It's much easier than ReactJS!

Thanks man. Great work

I knew the advantages of Solid over React, but I never felt it this deep until this video... Thank you very much... one more thing, am I the only one that rings bell when ur face is seen... king arthur - legend of the sword?

Thanks for great explanation by any chance do you plan for a course for solid?

Its just an amazing tool. Specially because react hooks are hard to test. But signals and stores can be totally tested in isolation. This is also a great feature.

Looks they're doing what vue does, with a react look-alike syntax

I would really like it if you could make a Udemy course for SolidJS & SolidStart

Thank you for this informative video. Solid Js looks really good and performant. Please try to make a full course on Solid JS soon. Eagerly waiting....

Cool. Thanks.

Thanks.

Yes it is better but people won’t use it because they can’t just use MUI or similar and refuse to build components themselves. I feel without frameworks like MUI based on comments from Reddit on various frameworks and complaints around “lack of community”, some people would struggle to even make a card component.

SolidJs is what I thought React was before learning

Amazing explanation...

It has the good part of React (love the component functions). I really hope I can use it at work.

when will come a js framework that were WASM base? That would be worthy to learn since using that technology would speed up the performance and also render smaller bundles

waiting for the crash course

Yes

I have a doubt at 4:14, you say that the doubleCount value changes only when the associated signal changes. Then what is the purpose of using a memo method?

As a team lead we’re redoing our cms and website using Angular and since we keep the code consistent for our small team we’re happy with our choice

Looking forward for something same as Solid Native :)

Max my good friend. Are there any planned updates to the Svelte course on Udemy?

will take a look, I find remix like the next big framework, maybe in the long run solidstart will be a good alternative.

I wonder how it works with chrome extensions, or in-browser translate tools. They directly inject on DOM. So could any outside dom injection could break it?

i’m starting up a new proj and am really considering going with solidjs. Only concern is SSR which I need. SolidStart looks unfinished and wondering if anyone has tried?

The "running function code only once"/reactivity system is the superior mental model for sure. So many problems with re-executing component functions that seem absurd once you see a better way.

This is pretty good!

love diving nito solid js

Max i am ( and i think not just me for sure ) waiting to hear your opinions and explaining about chatGpt 🤔

This sounds almost identical to vue 3. Createsignal() = ref() Creatememo() = computed() CreateEffect = watchEffect

Solid JS is written in Typescript 👍

Oh that’s clever how it works

Been trying hard to move away from svelte-kit to solid-start. JSX lets me break UI into as many smaller components within the same file. Its annoying to go back to svelte's single file component model. Solid signal seems interesting although not sure why we should care since we already have RXJS. Its even more confusing now that I hear angular is trying to incorporate signals. What exactly signals solve that RXJS cannot? Hope to see more videos on solidjs.

It is enough to transplant the best 20% of the react ecosystem to solid

Huge fan of SolidJS

Hi Max, what do you think about Qwik

When it comes to react alike frameworks solid is great, I love it, but my favorite frontend framework is still svelte.

for a mid to large size e-commerce website SolidJS or Qwik will be better?

So most importantly SolidJS does what you tell it to do. It's intuitive like that

@academind can you compare this against vue? Vue is way simpler then React and still Powerfull.

From what I experienced, if you have been using Angular you would probably like Svelte, and if you worked with React you would probably like more solids, anyways I really hope this two frameworks will replace the current ones in few years. thank you for sharing it!

Doesn’t preact signals (also usable within react) provide exactly the same functionality in react?🤔

Please make in depth laravel courses. Thanks.

Please give some opinion of qwik framework.

Svelte and Solid are the best frameworks in the market. Sadly the ecosystem effect will continue to force developers to choose inferior solutions.

How does it compare to Vue3 ? how does Vue 3 use the virtual doom?

From pure Dom to virtual Dom to pure Dom, next up back to virtual dom

only stick with remix

Well, the question was: is SolidJS the better than ReactJS? And the clear answer is: YES. The other things mentioned like how smaller community or which company is behind it not matter at all (actually most framework/product made by Google or Facebook is an instant "no-go" for me because they love to build over-bloated non-performant stuff, at least on the frontend side)

Yes, no re-rendering plz.

What about solid native? React Native is huge, but do we have any answer from SolidJS team on this topic?

Basically React with Valtio. Solid has always felt like a novelty framework. They're not the first or only to use signals and proxy objects. They need to do way more than that to be anywhere near where React is.

Great 👍

So this is basically the same thing Angular will implement in v16 with Signals, right?

Vue has been doing this since long ago, sad to see it doesn't get the recognition these other frameworks get.

Does anyone have experience with both react or solid which one is more fast and use full or worth learning first not sure what to focus on first react or solidJs I want to learn both by they way but just focus on one first thanks:)

React should adopt the SolidJS functions!

Solid Js looks solid, but if you want something straight out the box that’s very developer friendly, powerful and less complex than react and solid is pick up alpine js. That’s the game changing framework we need to all be talking about! 😀🙌🏾

Is Solid JS also similar to Vue? I am thinking about signal value changes. Thanks

Although I haven't used SoildJS yet, the features I loved that I've seen about SolidJS so far. SolidJS will definitely give a more comfort development experience than ReactJS in near future.

3:14 you can do that in React, lifting up the setState function from children component to father, or am I wrong?

1k+...Thanks

You forgot to mention SolidJs runs only a bit slower than vanilla JS, but faster than all other frameworks!

Why sveltkit is not getting popularity?

As an AI language model, I don't have personal opinions. The choice between SolidJS and ReactJS depends on your specific requirements and preferences. Both SolidJS and ReactJS are JavaScript libraries used for building user interfaces. They share similarities as they both follow a component-based approach and use a Virtual DOM for efficient rendering. However, they have some differences that might influence your decision: SolidJS: Performance: SolidJS is often touted for its impressive performance. It uses fine-grained reactivity, which means it tracks dependencies at a granular level, leading to fewer unnecessary updates and faster rendering. Bundle Size: SolidJS is known for its small bundle size compared to other frameworks like React. This can be advantageous for applications where reducing load times and optimizing performance are critical. Learning Curve: SolidJS has a smaller API surface compared to React, making it easier to learn and grasp, especially for developers who are new to frontend development. Ecosystem: SolidJS is relatively new compared to React, so its ecosystem and community support might not be as extensive as React's. ReactJS: Mature Ecosystem: React has been around for a longer time and has a large and mature ecosystem with abundant third-party libraries, tools, and community support. Popularity: React is widely adopted in the industry, and there are more job opportunities and resources available for React developers. Community and Documentation: The extensive community around React means that you can find solutions to common problems and access a wealth of documentation and tutorials. JSX: React uses JSX (JavaScript XML) for defining component structures, which many developers find to be a powerful and intuitive way to work with components. Ultimately, the choice between SolidJS and ReactJS depends on your project's specific needs, your team's familiarity with the library, and your preferences regarding performance, bundle size, and ecosystem support. Both libraries are capable of building efficient and powerful user interfaces, so you can't go wrong with either choice. It's essential to try them out and see which one aligns better with your development workflow and project goals.

I did a small project with Solid and some experiments. It's really amazing, but I still don't think it's distinctive enough to make me switch from React, giving up everything that already exists and the entire ecosystem.

Looks like reactive Vue3 meets React.

Does SolidJs really give the guarantee that the component function will never get called again? Or it still needs to call them again occasionally on the client? So no need for hook-style APIs on it, right?

Has anyone setup eslint-plugin-simple-import-sort with solid js?

Sounds a lot like Vue 😁 does it use proxies too?

I'll definitely be sticking with Vue. HTML in JavaScript functions is just wrong.

Every new framework comes as a killer of some top tier frameworks and miserably fails due to lack of community. Who wants to keep changing frameworks every now and then for large scale projects??

is Preact better then React ?