Is Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection WORTH Buying? (review)

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3 ай бұрын

The Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection is here in 2024! But despite it being in a fancy new package, is it WORTH buying or should you stick with the original? I answer everything in this review!
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@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Are you planning to watch those Wrist Rockets and Execute Order 66? Let me know in the comments below! I'm tempted to maybe stream the game in the future! Also, if you want to buy the Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection, you can buy it here! - store.steampowered.com/app/2446550/STAR_WARS_Battlefront_Classic_Collection/
@kodystapp6735
@kodystapp6735 3 ай бұрын
Did you know there’s 2 hidden attacks for kit Fisto that the game won’t tell you and I can tell everyone how to do them both
@Jiggy...
@Jiggy... 3 ай бұрын
my jaw dropped when you said it was 60 GB. what on earth happened there??
@MM_1771
@MM_1771 3 ай бұрын
Fr
@indycrew
@indycrew 3 ай бұрын
It’s 30gb on ps5
@indianajim
@indianajim 3 ай бұрын
AI upscaled everything
@route77productions
@route77productions 3 ай бұрын
For us Xbox users. It's such a mystery how unoptimized the file sizes are. It's 57GB when the original back compat games are 7GB combined which already ran at 4K60.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
People are saying AI upscaling but it's still absurd.
@noahargo9990
@noahargo9990 3 ай бұрын
I feel attacked for hearing that really no one would be here for battlefront 1.
@oliverboorman1434
@oliverboorman1434 3 ай бұрын
I used to love chilling on BF1. I loved storming that beach, playing hoth and the jet pqck was fun af. It was fun but it was very limited aside from the missions with flying vehicles as mentioned in the vid. Those were fun albiet annoying taking you out from the air lol. Second one didn't feel good it just had a bit more content. I never liked heroes being a major mechanic.
@gurgungarungabunga1268
@gurgungarungabunga1268 3 ай бұрын
I’m playing battlefront 1 right now
@donaldbarrett4073
@donaldbarrett4073 3 ай бұрын
SWBF1 has prettier skyboxes, less particle occlusion, more open maps. The gunplay is also different from the sequel; sometimes I just don't care for the award weapons and bonuses of SWBF2. I think Battlefront II's maps are more closed off to mitigate the short draw distance.
@m.c.martin
@m.c.martin 2 ай бұрын
Cloud City in Battlefront I was way ahead of its time, by far the beast map ever made!
@yungdeuce512
@yungdeuce512 Ай бұрын
Man same that was my favorite one. Idk why maybe cause it was my first but cmon
@user-vn7rq7dn4x
@user-vn7rq7dn4x 3 ай бұрын
I always believed that the first Battlefront still had some charm despite the second improving a lot. I will personally being trying to play both online.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Oh it does for sure.
@FatherOMalley
@FatherOMalley 3 ай бұрын
the original had better graphics, more bots and bigger maps with aircraft.
@andresinchausti3841
@andresinchausti3841 3 ай бұрын
the original semms more balanced, no jedis, also is a slower game u run more slow and for some reason this and other details it give more immersion, and scale, i remember that
@dtxspeaks268
@dtxspeaks268 3 ай бұрын
​@@andresinchausti3841the 2nd one is still immersive though. I felt like the actual OT, PT abd 2D Clone Wars
@dtxspeaks268
@dtxspeaks268 3 ай бұрын
​@@FatherOMalleyBF2 was still the better game overall
@insertrichie
@insertrichie 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for raising awareness. My experience on PS5 is horrendous. 20 year old game and it’s a jittery, buggy mess and 90% of the time the server list doesn’t even refresh. The purpose of this collection is multiplayer and that’s the worst part of the game right now.
@PowerfulRift
@PowerfulRift 3 ай бұрын
The new beeping loading screens is not the same. 😤
@JoeDawson.
@JoeDawson. 3 ай бұрын
We need those og beeps..
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 3 ай бұрын
Same with the victory theme and the objective complete sound. The victory theme is very low in pitch and the new objective completed sound is very different from the iconic original sound. The overall font of the text in the game is a little off too.
@tylerschlee4134
@tylerschlee4134 3 ай бұрын
Its a sham
@user-yc2hj8ue9q
@user-yc2hj8ue9q 3 ай бұрын
🤢🤮😭They just can’t get nothing right,the nostalgia is there strongest card,it helps the terrible story and character writing and to f that up is a no no
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 3 ай бұрын
@@user-yc2hj8ue9q “terrible story and character writing”? We’re talking about Battlefront 2 (2005) right? That story only has one real character and they’re unnamed bruh 😭
@MaitreMechant
@MaitreMechant 3 ай бұрын
the lack of crossplatform multiplayer still completely puzzles me, it would have been the easiest selling point of this collection on PC
@UFCWWE69
@UFCWWE69 3 ай бұрын
Console players don’t wanna play with pc cheaters though. Look at what u people did to warzone
@trabuco9
@trabuco9 3 ай бұрын
​@@UFCWWE69Console players have autoaim cheats right out of the box, lol.
@Nazgul265
@Nazgul265 3 ай бұрын
@@UFCWWE69”You people” lol. PCMR
@hamtheman9120
@hamtheman9120 3 ай бұрын
​@@UFCWWE69Turn off cross-play if you're that concerned. And it's activision's fault for releasing a terrible anti-cheat, not PC.
@Lemontarts01
@Lemontarts01 3 ай бұрын
First off you can play with PC players. Seccond to other ppl. Autoaim is mostly disabled on the servers
@maxxkarales64
@maxxkarales64 3 ай бұрын
The thing that hurts me is just the fonts. So much charm is missing and it makes it look like a fan made amateurish concept piece. I hope they add the og fonts back. And the BF1 loading sounds, they NEED to add the og sounds back
@jasperfox6821
@jasperfox6821 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, I see exactly what you mean, the fonts, and even looking at the lighting on some maps just looks awful.... it's why I will not buy this game on steam only keep to switch for now as that's where I've always dreamed of playing these games.
@ImmaSpam__________________Can
@ImmaSpam__________________Can 3 ай бұрын
It wouldnt suprise me if there was licensing issues depending on the font, granted i doubt they would see anyform of backlash for using the fonts regardless.
@russianoverkill3715
@russianoverkill3715 3 ай бұрын
​@@jasperfox6821I played it - I refunded it, don't buy this game.
@jasperfox6821
@jasperfox6821 3 ай бұрын
@russianoverkill3715 please do elaborate, what did you find, what went wrong?
@russianoverkill3715
@russianoverkill3715 3 ай бұрын
@@jasperfox6821 perfomance is worse, AI upscaled textures aren't even noticable, it's the completely opposite, graphics are ruined, HUD is displaced for no reason and looks ugly, new font is awful, sounds are awful, multiplayer is laggy(I live in eastern europe but even other people had this problem judging by negative reviews on steam), many bugs and glitches from original games are left unfixed, cut content isn't even fully back, because there is no Bespin Platforms map. This game is a scam.
@Icehead2.0
@Icehead2.0 3 ай бұрын
60 gig? wtf?
@route77productions
@route77productions 3 ай бұрын
Awful file optimization.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
It's rough.
@pelinalwhitestrake1176
@pelinalwhitestrake1176 3 ай бұрын
If you’re in us just change Region to New Zealand
@michaelpenezich5063
@michaelpenezich5063 3 ай бұрын
New textures and all the content of course it's gonna go up no big deal get more storage if 60gb makes you worry
@mitwhitgaming7722
@mitwhitgaming7722 3 ай бұрын
That's almost as much as Helldivers...
@kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789
@kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789 3 ай бұрын
Let's be honest. When it was announced, I was expecting it to be no more than £20
@why3994
@why3994 3 ай бұрын
The funniest thing is, the originals are cheaper 😂
@kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789
@kloppsippingvarsenaltears2789 3 ай бұрын
@@why3994 that's obvious. But with multiplayer, both games and texture updates you'd expect a small price increase. Even £20 some may say is too much. £28.99 is ridiculous, but people bought it for nostalgia.
@Storm_RangerX
@Storm_RangerX 3 ай бұрын
The inflated harddrive space is almost certainly uncompressed sound files.
@captainfach
@captainfach 3 ай бұрын
That and all the upscale FMVs. Those take up a surprising amount of space
@jeffreyaguilar8028
@jeffreyaguilar8028 3 ай бұрын
I love the original, it may not have sprint, space battles, or heroes, but at has air vehicles in ground battles unlike BF2.
@StraightOtohGunga
@StraightOtohGunga 3 ай бұрын
Which is what I used to love. Using the dropships and raining fire down on infantry / vehicles
@inertiaarch3798
@inertiaarch3798 3 ай бұрын
Yeah the first one has always been my favorite. It has so much more charm imo and the map selection is so much better.
@jeffreyaguilar8028
@jeffreyaguilar8028 3 ай бұрын
@@inertiaarch3798 I would love to be the guy that designs the multiplayer to a battlefront 3, no starcards or one weapon only or battle points for heroes and vehicles unless it’s for reinforcement classes. Basically Battlefield but Star Wars.
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 3 ай бұрын
Don’t forget the neutral factions, going prone, far more open and wide maps if that’s your thing, and each individual class for each faction had a lot more small unique quirks about them
@dtxspeaks268
@dtxspeaks268 3 ай бұрын
​@@inertiaarch3798dude, BF2 literally feels the saga + the Clone Wars Multimedia Project and the 2nd actually has maps from the movies. Why are you BF1 fanboys so toxic and hateful?
@GIJoeFan97
@GIJoeFan97 3 ай бұрын
Me: *Hears KOTOR 2 music in the video "I see you are a man of culture as well."
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
😎
@MM_1771
@MM_1771 3 ай бұрын
I’m really looking forward to this game. Edit: After watching the full review, damn it really does seem like Asyper put in the bare minimum amount of work into this game. That’s really disappointing. Let’s just hope that they can fix the multiplayer issues asap.
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 3 ай бұрын
Are you still getting it?
@jakemensik2842
@jakemensik2842 3 ай бұрын
Lol bruh the MP is gonna be dead in like a month. If you've never played the og MP, it was broken AFFFFF. I'm sure they didn't go into balancing things lol.
@crashcrash1349
@crashcrash1349 3 ай бұрын
grenade spam to the max lol@@jakemensik2842
@Nobbie248
@Nobbie248 3 ай бұрын
Lmao what did you expect? Its a cash grab
@Popo-oy3by
@Popo-oy3by 3 ай бұрын
why on earth would you play this game when you can play the star wars battlefront 2 remake from 2017 thats 10x better. Only reason you would wanna buy this is for nostalgic reasons. I'll stick to the remake thanks
@McNyloLT
@McNyloLT 3 ай бұрын
Glad I watching this before getting my hopes up. Thanks for always being honest, dude
@technoempire85
@technoempire85 3 ай бұрын
I'm so conflicted about Aspyr. On one hand, I love how much they love the KOTOR and the Star Wars brand in general-- on the other, they seem to have the worst luck in the world and a lot of their output (and lack of) shows it.
@jamese3114
@jamese3114 3 ай бұрын
What is there to be conflicted about? They’ve only ever done ports and just about every port they’ve done has been dogshit.
@shawnaniganz9808
@shawnaniganz9808 3 ай бұрын
They are just vultures preying on the carcass of Lucasarts and throwing out half-assed cash grab ports. Nothing to like about them.
@doughnutholer
@doughnutholer 3 ай бұрын
@@jamese3114this one’s the same sadly
@Matthewt756
@Matthewt756 3 ай бұрын
They love Star Wars so much they dropped a big turd on it.
@Material_Monkey
@Material_Monkey 3 ай бұрын
All of Aspyres ports were literally the absolute bare minimum. I dont know where you see their "love" for Star Wars
@jt_9999
@jt_9999 3 ай бұрын
How does a game in 2024 not have an option to invert the Y axis?
@kennypowers1945
@kennypowers1945 3 ай бұрын
Cause it’s not a 2024 game 😂😂
@Empty12345
@Empty12345 3 ай бұрын
​@@kennypowers1945Re-released in 2024, the original versions had this option
@KnockOut101inc
@KnockOut101inc 3 ай бұрын
why would you want to fly a plane incorrectly? pushing down brings you up, pushing up brings you down. it's simple bruh just learn to play
@SirClintRockfoot
@SirClintRockfoot 3 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, when they announced that battlefront 2 was going to have all ground levels feature hero assault, I figured that at the very least, they would have added a sprint function to the first game.
@ORMONDROPON
@ORMONDROPON 3 ай бұрын
The maps are balanced without sprinting taken into account. If they put sprint into BF 1, they would all play like garbage, especially in regards to pacing, but also cover positions would be FAR too generous.
@Lemontarts01
@Lemontarts01 3 ай бұрын
Sprinting is not needed in the first one
@slmello1867
@slmello1867 3 ай бұрын
Nah thats like saying they should put sprint into Halo CE, 2, and 3. It wasn’t part of the game and it was a unique experience compared to now
@nunyabidness8281
@nunyabidness8281 3 ай бұрын
You can sprint
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 3 ай бұрын
@@nunyabidness8281He said the first game, and you cannot sprint in the first game
@RiverOfBlacklights
@RiverOfBlacklights 3 ай бұрын
Say whatever you want about these games - the *ABSOLUTE BEST THING ABOUT THESE GAMES* is the *TOTAL ABSENCE* of *_ANY_* "di$ney war$" *_GARBAGE_* in them. Now *_THIS_* is STAR WARS... UPDATE: Yeah, that still doesn't excuse launching 2 broken games with only 3 servers, crashes, lagging, other issues and a $35 price tag...
@shangothunder1055
@shangothunder1055 3 ай бұрын
Desperate Cope😬
@squashedhobbit6049
@squashedhobbit6049 3 ай бұрын
You will probably find that the bloated GB and quieter sound is because they have used uncompressed audio for a higher audio quality however that means the audio will generally be quieter and take up a lot more space
@popcornfilms1
@popcornfilms1 3 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ the bootlicking doesn’t end does it? It’s lazy and half-assed. Nothing else.
@Nobbie248
@Nobbie248 3 ай бұрын
​@@popcornfilms1yep no one should buy this on steam
@sniffleblox2354
@sniffleblox2354 3 ай бұрын
@@popcornfilms1They’re just explaining the poor optimisation, calm down
@spookzer16
@spookzer16 3 ай бұрын
​@@popcornfilms1 Don't pop a blood vessel.
@squashedhobbit6049
@squashedhobbit6049 3 ай бұрын
@@popcornfilms1 🤣🤣 oh no someone explained the reason I must attack them because they are smarter than me!
@nexialists
@nexialists 3 ай бұрын
got my refund, servers are actually horrendous and 60gb is beyond ridiculous 🤣 can’t believe i fell for this nostalgia bait
@MrSnow1080p
@MrSnow1080p 3 ай бұрын
I really love Battlefront 1 & 2 classics and still play them on steam. I pre-ordered this classic collection for the switch just so I could play while traveling to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu competitions. Also you can't beat playing hero assault on every map! So its worth buying for me, and it will show how good aspyr really are at handling older games.
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 3 ай бұрын
Good luck in your competitions!
@MrSnow1080p
@MrSnow1080p 3 ай бұрын
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 Thank you! 🤙
@angeligiacomo2292
@angeligiacomo2292 3 ай бұрын
Same for me but on PS5
@Danzartist2
@Danzartist2 3 ай бұрын
11:16 I’m crying in tears when he said “it’s just.. unacceptable” 🤣
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
:O
@sjlbean
@sjlbean Ай бұрын
I bought it for my Series X and I’m happy with it. Despite some bugs it was really cool to play through and achievement hunt my favorite childhood game all these years later.
@vDungeon
@vDungeon 3 ай бұрын
If they really have 4k textures, the size really grows. The quality is about “how the 4k textures were made”.
@DylanHunter64
@DylanHunter64 3 ай бұрын
I think the reception of this collection will really depend on the platform. On PC, it seems not worth it and cheap. On every other console, it feels like a really great release because a lot of people haven't been able to access it for a long time
@basdegroot3615
@basdegroot3615 3 ай бұрын
I almost agree, however, you can run the old BF games on a laptop from 2010, hardware lots of us probably already has access to.
@DylanHunter64
@DylanHunter64 3 ай бұрын
@@basdegroot3615 That's true, but many people can't be bothered to do so with a piece of technology they might not use very often. I think there's a lot to be said about the convenience of having it in an instant on the Switch or PS5 that people are likely to be using far more often.
@giosbizarreart9048
@giosbizarreart9048 3 ай бұрын
@@basdegroot3615yes that’s basically what he already said, pc users don’t need to buy this but most console players don’t have an easy way to play bf2 so it’s more useful for them
@-CrimsoN-
@-CrimsoN- 3 ай бұрын
100% agree. Granted, I bought it for PC for the splitscreen. But outside of that, it's really not worth it. The Remaster Project and Shader Patch mods already look 1000% better than any AI upscaling. There are already mods to restore the Xbox content and add hero assault to every map. Literally no real reason to buy this on PC unless you want the splitscreen. All the mods are still going to be for the classic game anyway! Especially now that so many mod authors have moved on and won't be updating their mods for the classic collection.
@lecljone2566
@lecljone2566 3 ай бұрын
@@-CrimsoN-online is kinda janky and laggy in the og tho, that the only thing I hope they fixed and reworked for the collection. If not, its not worth a single dime for pc tbh
@loyalcompanion2104
@loyalcompanion2104 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. Really appreciate the honesty
@zmr3352
@zmr3352 3 ай бұрын
Maybe this is already somewhat known, but the reason why the original BF2 still has PC multiplayer is because an update from years ago restored the servers after GameSpy died. Considering I've played the OG versions of both games for almost 2 decades now, I feel like I've already seen the best of them. I'm thrilled that both games got a remaster for new and old fans, but for me, the lack of mod support kills this version even more than crossplay I think. OG BF2 mod support is so expansive and great that it makes it tough for me to get excited for something like this. Not to mention all the bugs mentioned in the video. Also, 60 GB install? That seems to happen a lot these days and I hate that.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I know! And it runs better :S
@grannytoes7221
@grannytoes7221 3 ай бұрын
Addon folders for both games are already known to be there, the game is moddable.
@Kolonol1
@Kolonol1 3 ай бұрын
​@@grannytoes7221being moldable and supporting the mods already out there are 2 different things to be honest.
@Billybobjoe
@Billybobjoe 3 ай бұрын
@@Kolonol1 people say "the lack of mod support" and act as if it's un-moddable, which isn't true.
@Nitolordgrave
@Nitolordgrave 2 ай бұрын
It not 60gb you get the ps5 version and the ps4 version and both versions are 30gb
@pniner
@pniner 3 ай бұрын
Public service announcement: There is NO OPTION to invert your Y-axis in this game.
@TheLuxentertainment
@TheLuxentertainment 3 ай бұрын
While it is disappointing that Aspyr have only done minimal improvements over the original version I think people are missing the point of this collection: it gives people who only own the latest generation of consoles the chance to play these legendary games. Not everyone has a PC and can play the original games and even less people have a PS2 at home nowadays. Nevertheless the price is a bit exaggerated, without sale it costs 35€ which is equivalent to over 38$, so almost 40$ for a port with slightly better textures.
@Valendyn
@Valendyn 3 ай бұрын
I bought it because it has native controller support on PC so it's perfect for my steam deck.
@mechayamcha
@mechayamcha 3 ай бұрын
its been fully playable on xbox one (x,s) and series (s,x) for years. you can buy each games for a couple of bucks and visually this looks exactly the same but costs 3x the price.
@TheLuxentertainment
@TheLuxentertainment 3 ай бұрын
@@mechayamcha but it has never been for Playstation 4 and 5
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 3 ай бұрын
If online worker properly I’d be 100% onboard
@Valendyn
@Valendyn 3 ай бұрын
@@mechayamcha I don't have an xbox, nor would I want one. I already have a ps5, pc, and a steam deck so for me to have native controller support on pc is better for me and I'll gladly pay the price they want just to enjoy it on the go on my steam deck.
@StraightOtohGunga
@StraightOtohGunga 3 ай бұрын
I really hope they fix the issues with online. Growing up, I only ever played Split screen. So I am really excited to try playing games full of actual players.
@DemonSlayer98
@DemonSlayer98 3 ай бұрын
The first one for me was more fun. Seeing the heroes running around being as strong as a hero should be and the yellow team being able to fight back and win. If they added AI heroes and the yellow teams into the 2nd I would never look back.
@JakvsMetalheads999
@JakvsMetalheads999 3 ай бұрын
That’s really what they ought to have done is just splice the campaigns together, add the little bit of cut content from BF1 into 2, and just have it be a single game. They’re similar enough that I don’t see why they couldn’t have
@SuperRambo111
@SuperRambo111 3 ай бұрын
I still play this game. That's how good it is.
@Kolonol1
@Kolonol1 3 ай бұрын
XL mode was my absolute FAVORITE!!! Before my computer went down and I never got a new one, those are some of the only maps I played
@jcgalvan26
@jcgalvan26 3 ай бұрын
What is XL? I’ve only played on the Xbox version
@Kolonol1
@Kolonol1 3 ай бұрын
@@jcgalvan26 pretty sure it stands for extra large but there is like 2-3 times the amount of units on the field at any given time. You could adjust the amount but I always set it to maximum. I always thought it would be cool to put ALL of the units on the battlefield and just have a free for all...
@GentlemanJacque
@GentlemanJacque 3 ай бұрын
I played these games a ton back in the day, both solo and with friends. If I can convince some of them to come back to this, well let's just say: "This is where the fun begins!" Really good review! Also i love that the medical droid actually started to "heal" your character even though the grenade killed you. 5:54
@RetroJank
@RetroJank 3 ай бұрын
Great video, love the technical details. I agree that It doesn't make too much sense to have BF1 here, they should have just made the maps from that available on BF2 and left it at that, in everyway that game is an upgrade to the original. THANK YOU for calling them out for trying to act like that and the DLC was new content and calling it what it is, an upscaled port that you might not play if the servers were still open for the original. A few things I have questions about, things I decided I would have fixed when I played SWBFII to 100% on the 360 version I own on stream recently, things that should be fixed if they actually put some care into it and did more than just upscale it and open the console servers again. 1. Have they added any of the dlc content to galactic conquest or added any kind of randomization to the planets? 2. have they made the characters available through the leader bonus more random? (In the original, the character for the leader bonus in galactic conquest was locked in by the planet you are on and it felt like you only got to use one or two instead of the whole cast; for example playing as CIS you will never play as count dooku, ventress or the emperor, you will only play as maul or jango) 3. Have they made the AI smarter at all? does it still do stupid and infuriating things like attacking the same planet over and over again in galactic conquest or getting stuck and standing around having a seizure in a corner on the edge of the map somewhere? 4. Also, did they fix the map on Naboo where the AI gets stuck in that corner next to CP 3?
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
1. I didn't play through enough GC but I didn't see any DLC planets. 2. I think it's still context locked. (Heroes on their specific planets etc) 3. They were still pretty dumb to me so I couldn't confirm. 4. I don't think so.
@choum_5018
@choum_5018 3 ай бұрын
If someone wants to play BF1 or BF2 Pandemic, just bought them on pc on steam. Very low computers can run both of them, with multiple mods/steam workshop :)
@user-db9by5zj1u
@user-db9by5zj1u 3 ай бұрын
For those of you saying 60 gigs its for both the old gen and next gen versions combined. It’s actually 30. I dont know and or care if thats bad
@jamese3114
@jamese3114 3 ай бұрын
The fact that Aspyr can keep putting out slop and people open their wallets for nostalgia alone is really disappointing.
@JediFrog
@JediFrog 3 ай бұрын
Whenever I run the multi-player for the second game on the original, the servers seem like they're made with rubber bands, I can't fight anyone or anything without teleporting or the shots not registering correctly. You experience with lag on that server is what I experience on the current battlefront II servers for the og game, so I'm really hoping that won't be a problem for the rest of this version when it launches.
@UrDad540
@UrDad540 3 ай бұрын
I love battlefront 2 but personally I think the first one is better, I like the maps it has more than in the sequel. Does suck you can't use heroes in it though
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Mods do fix that I believe?
@SneccTheSnake
@SneccTheSnake 3 ай бұрын
"this collection is pretty cheap" My brother in Christ they are charging $40 for two games that they just slapped some up texture mods onto
@That_0ne_Dev
@That_0ne_Dev 3 ай бұрын
If theres 1 thing this collection made me do. It was to buy the originals before they get delisted off steam
@chillinchimp7404
@chillinchimp7404 3 ай бұрын
I have a question, will the originals on steam be removed? because I don't wanna spend money again just to buy the classic collection, also this was only accessible on pc but in the original you could switch between factions during a battle but not in the classic collection, pretty disappointed about it ngl.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
I don't think so. Would be crazy if they did.
@lassmichruhe
@lassmichruhe 3 ай бұрын
Removed no, but likely unlisted. you'll still be able to play them, you own them. But you won't be able to find them in the steam store anymore
@chillinchimp7404
@chillinchimp7404 3 ай бұрын
Well that's a relief, at least for me and all the other original battlefront buyers.
@ferndog1996
@ferndog1996 3 ай бұрын
I’m really hopping there is 32:9 support and if there is proper split screen with it then I think the game will be worth it for me on pc. I am having doubts though that it will be executed properly. The audio delay and multiplayer frame rate is atrocious though, I’d be curious to see if there the fps is still as bad on lan.
@basdegroot3615
@basdegroot3615 3 ай бұрын
Im also hoping for Ultrawide support and even windowed mode, and not ONE reviewer have watched even shows the options. -_-
@ferndog1996
@ferndog1996 3 ай бұрын
@@basdegroot3615 Yeah I have been looking man can’t find any information about ultrawide support. I also want 4:3 support because I game on a high refresh rate crt too, I will be super surprised if 4:3 doesn’t work.
@MM_1771
@MM_1771 3 ай бұрын
I was hoping you could clarify something for me as this is a huge factor whether I get the game or not. Does this mean that Galactic Conquest can be played online and with friends? Is it only for Battlefront I or II as well? 5:36 Is the campaign for either game support online CO-OP with a friend? I assume not on this one.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
The answer to both questions is no unfortunetly.
@Matias-ej9ws
@Matias-ej9ws 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars what about split-screen on XL modes
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
I would assume so yeah.
@MM_1771
@MM_1771 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars That’s a bummer. Thank you so much for answering my questions. I really appreciate.
@Aaron-fb6mb
@Aaron-fb6mb 3 ай бұрын
That would be really cool if they’d done that. 20 years later, I feel like they could have but hey I’m not a software developer
@razorback8300
@razorback8300 3 ай бұрын
for me personally i am getting it on PC for the splitscreen . so yeah, i do think its going to be worth it . still great review !
@crakecrow
@crakecrow 3 ай бұрын
It's really depressing and bizarre now that we went from indie developers/studios making better games and content than most AAA studios to modders making games much better with more content than an actual studio developing or upgrading one.
@TheFoolTohru
@TheFoolTohru 3 ай бұрын
What a flop this was...Aspyr should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for this trainwreck.
@ImCptnAwesome
@ImCptnAwesome 3 ай бұрын
No, it's not worth buying. It's only 2 players, the original was 4. This is a downgrade.
@harvey_birdman4455
@harvey_birdman4455 3 ай бұрын
i dont know about you but back in 2004/2005 having wireless internet was rare so playing online is a completely new thing to me and i get to come back to probably to one of the best and nostalgic games of my childhood? SIGN ME UP SAILOR
@M.Streamery
@M.Streamery 3 ай бұрын
Do you think you'll make any sort of update video depending on if the proper release has any patches?
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
If it improves the game I may!
@theShoop
@theShoop 3 ай бұрын
Western gamedev optimize the game size and compress textures challenge (impossible)
@-CrimsoN-
@-CrimsoN- 3 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised that the Classic Collection is subpar. I literally only bought it for the Splitscreen so me and my wife can play. The original is still better because of the mods. The Remaster Mod and Shader Patch are especially amazing looking mods and are handcrafted textures versus AI upscaling.
@NormandyEdits
@NormandyEdits 3 ай бұрын
To be honest this will get boring really soon without mod support. Every now and then I hop on Battlefront 2 on PC and the most fun is the mod content. Vanilla has been played for years, I don't need a upscaled 60gb Xbox One Port to play it a week and then hardly ever touch it. A shame because I LOVE the original Battlefront
@mistertwister2000
@mistertwister2000 3 ай бұрын
I just don’t understand how it’s so poorly optimized. Like all the other stuff I can see them patching later, I personally am not that upset by it, but it should NOT be 60gb.
@Lyudo
@Lyudo 3 ай бұрын
Is there ultrawide support?
@xnonentity
@xnonentity 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video 😚❤️
@Enwaiyre
@Enwaiyre 3 ай бұрын
Hell yeah it is worth!😃 who said it takes 50-60 GB? I got 25 GB on PS5. It's such a joy to bring back a part of my childhood. People complaining about 35€, but I'm asking to this people "Is it more worth to pay 35€ to get drunk?" Think about that😉
@Jekkzur01
@Jekkzur01 3 ай бұрын
Thank you soooooo much!!! I have been waiting to purchase. Guess I will wait a little longer till they get rid of the issues. If they don't then I will just stick with og ps2 version from time to time not online.
@thegreatest397
@thegreatest397 3 ай бұрын
Aspyr knew they needed to win the fans back after botching kotor 2 restored content
@christianbethel
@christianbethel 3 ай бұрын
But they failed.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Indeed...
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 ай бұрын
Tomb Raider oldie fans can disagree. Also, PC gamers like me.
@lecljone2566
@lecljone2566 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359tomb raider remasters gladly didn’t let us down and its only getting better with the patches and mods coming. Hoping for a tr 4-6 remaster ( for 6 it should be a remake since it was never fully finished and hopefully they bring back all the cut content)
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 ай бұрын
@@lecljone2566 I'll just be OK with The Last Revelation as expansion DLC or something. The stuff that came after are just plain bad to me.
@TNTxEXPLOSIONSx
@TNTxEXPLOSIONSx 3 ай бұрын
question does this version of bf2 have the ai play as heroes and villains in regular matches outside of the "heroes and villains" mode? wich was exclusive to the xbox and psp version of the game.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Sadly not
@TNTxEXPLOSIONSx
@TNTxEXPLOSIONSx 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars damn thats an huge missed opportunity, what about bf1 naboo plains did they use the console version of that map cuz that one has starfighters on them wich are absent on the og pc version.
@Mrcheekymonkeyisback
@Mrcheekymonkeyisback 3 ай бұрын
never played the first one, but the second battlefront (classic 2005) was my go to game for playstation 2, absolutely smashed it everyday lol
@xyifer12
@xyifer12 3 ай бұрын
They took what was already available through community mods for many years, packaged up the existing work, and are charging extra instead of making this a game update for the games which are already released. Terrible behavior, though not surprising from Aspyr and Disney.
@lukejohnson3149
@lukejohnson3149 3 ай бұрын
Can you play with the extra player count offline? Can you have 60+ bots for example?
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@lukejohnson3149
@lukejohnson3149 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars Woah that is awesome. It must make the game feel very different! Thanks for the reply.
@basdegroot3615
@basdegroot3615 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars But can you play XL battles online?
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Sadly not.
@captainfach
@captainfach 3 ай бұрын
My big question to whether ill buy or not is, are mods going to be focusing on these versions moving forward, and are the original servers going to be taken down
@PixelatedKnightmares
@PixelatedKnightmares 3 ай бұрын
The answers no, need for 18min of it. Eventually if they show the respect to the Battlefront community, people like me who streamed high quality streams, got others to buy it, the enthusiasm we showed, our sadness when BF2 2017 was over with no mention of BF3, talked with developers, made players excited to even play one weekends worth after they spent 60 usd....then, maybe. This was just about the last straw, there's no excuses for what this launch felt like.
@ArthurCallahan389
@ArthurCallahan389 3 ай бұрын
“Significantly improved visuals” is being very generous. I’m glad they kept the gameplay & all the original modes, but there’s so much more they could’ve done to improve the graphics. That’s my only complaint.
@Lil_Valor
@Lil_Valor 3 ай бұрын
The upscale textures removes lighting and glow
@basdegroot3615
@basdegroot3615 3 ай бұрын
I agree. The Mustafar example he showed actually looks worse in the new one.
@domsantiago5444
@domsantiago5444 3 ай бұрын
@@basdegroot3615there’s always still original guys. this isn’t a remake so they can’t fine tune everything and modernize it perfectly like we would like. honestly even if they completely botched this (which doesn’t seem so just minor differences) we should still support this collection and show we care because this might bring around battlefront 3. it’s greedy ass ea they like money if the numbers on this are strong that shows battlefront 3 is just free money sitting on the table and they’ll hopefully make it more like the OG battlefront instead of the godforsaken reboot versions.
@Aqueox
@Aqueox 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, lol. It's like they added lighting where it wasn't before, but butchered it where it should be. Cloud City looks shitty based on his video. I was excited for this, but leave it to a fucking company to fuck up small shit, when they are literally being paid to get everything right.
@Flav0rful
@Flav0rful 3 ай бұрын
@@domsantiago5444 You're a moron
@jamese3114
@jamese3114 3 ай бұрын
They delisted the originals after announcing this. This thing didn’t pass the sniff test from day 1
@Perceval777
@Perceval777 3 ай бұрын
For some reason, they've removed the original SWBF2 crosshair settings. I always liked disabling most of the crosshair and leaving just the small white dot. Also, I can't stand the yellow heat meter on the crosshair, I want to disable it. This has really disappointed me...
@ricashbringer9866
@ricashbringer9866 3 ай бұрын
Lucky for me I still have Battlefront II on four cds, and it works on Windows 10.
@OptimusMaximusNero
@OptimusMaximusNero 3 ай бұрын
Wish we got a Battlefront set in the Yuuzhan Vong Wars. Imagine the possibilities with the amazing and unique Vong technology!
@Roarssk6920
@Roarssk6920 3 ай бұрын
Underrated take. Those books were great!
@xxcaptninjaxx4301
@xxcaptninjaxx4301 3 ай бұрын
never happen under disney but at least there is mod community has answer
@s0lid_sno0ks
@s0lid_sno0ks 3 ай бұрын
9:47 how can anyone see this and think the new version looks better? original looks way better. better lighting w/ bloom. new one just has some crappy high rez textures but no soul or aesthetic sense. some extra pixels on some textures while retaining the same poly counts just looks bad plus without the lighting it looks totally sterile with no atmosphere.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.
@Aqueox
@Aqueox 3 ай бұрын
Yup, and Cloud City looks.... Eeeesh. Not good.
@mechadeka
@mechadeka 3 ай бұрын
​@@100StarWarsObjetivity exists. If it is missing visual effects from the original, the product is inferior.
@cacomeat7385
@cacomeat7385 3 ай бұрын
picking this up on switch cause i would love to have a full fat handheld version of classic battlefront, skipping on pc as i already have the originals and they work fine with some patches
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Very wise I would say! Playing Battlefront while travelling or something would pass the time nicely haha
@gamingcentral4730
@gamingcentral4730 3 ай бұрын
Are the trophies obtainable offline, or are the majority exclusively online?
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Of course!
@gamingcentral4730
@gamingcentral4730 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars thank you, I am really relieved to hear that. I have autism, and was worried due to lack of friends
@LJ-qq8lx
@LJ-qq8lx 3 ай бұрын
I think I'll just stick to the original and all my mods tbh... do you know if they're adding mod support?
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
I have no clue.
@potorius7877
@potorius7877 3 ай бұрын
Great video as always! i think i'm going to stay with my trusty old steam copy and my ps2 copy for the true nostalgia :)
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
You must do what you feel is right, of course!
@calumlefebvre9447
@calumlefebvre9447 3 ай бұрын
L
@calumlefebvre9447
@calumlefebvre9447 3 ай бұрын
Brokie
@wills2652
@wills2652 3 ай бұрын
I just got it on my switch! Can’t wait to play tomorrow
@JjGodly
@JjGodly 3 ай бұрын
Ok i see you can create match but is that for everybody to join or only friebds can i not invite my friend to join me in a public lobby with 64 others like quick match?
@Atrus999
@Atrus999 3 ай бұрын
Great review! I'm glad you didn't go into this game with your rose tinted nostalgia googles turned up to 11 like most other reviewers did.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Gotta be as neutral as possible
@DavidFB24
@DavidFB24 3 ай бұрын
$35 and no crossplay wtf/??, ill wait until a sale
@xavisonline
@xavisonline 3 ай бұрын
The playerbase will be dead by then. In part cuz of the lack of crossplay lol
@TheAdam159
@TheAdam159 3 ай бұрын
Its nice they included Battlefront 1 , but honestly after i bought BF2 all the way back in 2005, i didnt touch the first one much. Bf2 just improved it in pretty much every way
@karlshad
@karlshad 3 ай бұрын
Glad I watched this. I have the original two on Steam, so if I want to play a very clunky game, I can. This doesn't look to be the improvement I was looking for, so I can save my money and just remember the great times playing it on Xbox 360 back in the day!
@mr.miscellaneous
@mr.miscellaneous 3 ай бұрын
Most of the "bad" things seem patchable, so I really think patch updates will be rolling out as soon as it releases.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's very possible and I'm really hopeful it's all fixed come release!
@mr.miscellaneous
@mr.miscellaneous 3 ай бұрын
​@@100StarWarsI do have a question though. On the original BF games on PC, you could bind a key to changing between 1st and 3rd person views. However the console version of BF2 does not have this. Does the remastered version have this?
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
It does yeah.
@mr.miscellaneous
@mr.miscellaneous 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars Great. Thank you so much.
@HardCorePoration
@HardCorePoration 3 ай бұрын
Thing is these things shouldn't be patched to begin with. It shouldn't release broken at all, especially when there's a much cheaper version without these issues.
@generalzod5944
@generalzod5944 3 ай бұрын
Is it me, or did the original with the lava look WAY better than the new HD version?
@thedarksaber
@thedarksaber 3 ай бұрын
Will the split screen work for campaign and galactic conquest? How is the fps during split screen. Im guessing there's nothing special going on and i could find out Tommorw but I would like ask anyway
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
I actually don't have access to a second controller so I couldn't even get into the split screen haha
@thedarksaber
@thedarksaber 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars I see haha
@Sub-Zero8
@Sub-Zero8 3 ай бұрын
@@thedarksaber split screen will work for Rise of the Empire and Galactic Conquest, the only downside to it is that they’re exclusive to offline modes so you can’t play those modes online
@heppuplays9125
@heppuplays9125 3 ай бұрын
My guesss for the 60 Gigs is just mostl likely that Aspyr Fucked up the FIle Compression or that it's the new 4k textures taking up so much space.
@DarkwareTNP
@DarkwareTNP 3 ай бұрын
Textures and sounds being uncompressed
@Hamentsios10
@Hamentsios10 3 ай бұрын
7:22 Hard disagree. Id rather have all classes layed out in front of me and directly click on the one i want, instead of having to 1D scroll on a list like im using a controller thus limiting myself even further.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
I mean that's fair enough. It's an artistic choice.
@jameskershaw4452
@jameskershaw4452 3 ай бұрын
I'm not convinced on paying nearly double or triple the price I paid to get these classics on PC 12 years ago. Just for multiplayer. I'm going to buy this game when it's cheaper and even then I think I'll only play it for the usual single or co-op gameplay aspects not online gaming. On a side note people should check out the remaster mod for BF2 2005 because this really makes it a fresh experience.
@triple-d2640
@triple-d2640 3 ай бұрын
Heard the original steam version has a lot of outdated issues that not even mods can cover up. Controller support is one. Hackers is another.
@OfficialGhostToast
@OfficialGhostToast 3 ай бұрын
How do I play with my friends? We’re both on ps5 but can’t party up or find the same server to play together
@WatchVidsMakeLists
@WatchVidsMakeLists 3 ай бұрын
I'm having an issue with splitscreen on the Switch version: it just says "Please Insert Controller" for player 2, even when I have two controllers paired to the console. Does anyone know why this is? Do both players need to have a Nintendo Online account even for offlline splitscreen play? It's breaking my heart since the whole reason I bought this game was to introduce my friends to classic Battlefront.
@OptimusMaximusNero
@OptimusMaximusNero 3 ай бұрын
As long as this Battlefront doesn't have a story that was promised to be a fascinating tale about imperial soldiers but in the end it was just another generic "becoming a Rebel" tale, I will gladly buy it 😊
@JulianchoNemoga90
@JulianchoNemoga90 3 ай бұрын
Believe me you are in for a treat with the story of the 501st
@route77productions
@route77productions 3 ай бұрын
These campaigns are minimal effort, "due to budget and time constraints" but they are pretty good.
@grimtrazzd6043
@grimtrazzd6043 3 ай бұрын
@@route77productionswell the first one I don’t think was even going to have a campaign, it just kinda happened and bf2 had a year so🤷‍♂️🤣 but there still amazing
@xxcaptninjaxx4301
@xxcaptninjaxx4301 3 ай бұрын
@@JulianchoNemoga90 you mean story of 501st legion aka Vader fist
@xxcaptninjaxx4301
@xxcaptninjaxx4301 3 ай бұрын
@@grimtrazzd6043 still better campaign than EA battlefront 2017 campaign
@hydraulikdamian5676
@hydraulikdamian5676 3 ай бұрын
The fact that you have to pay 30USD for a fucking RE-RELEASE is crazy, it's not even a remaster. And the worst thing is that people will buy it - it's insane how we as a gaming community are allowing to be fucked in the ass.
@snowman1886
@snowman1886 3 ай бұрын
That is what I’m saying. It’s literally a modern day, broad daylight scam 😭
@NinaIseri
@NinaIseri 3 ай бұрын
Its only 30$ 🙄 better than 69.99$
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 3 ай бұрын
THANK YOU and people are bragging about PREORDERING a 20 year old game?! geez
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079
@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 3 ай бұрын
for 20 year old games? still too high and they're just PORTS too why excuse this?just because it's not $70 its ok ? Raise your standards people like you are why the industry is in shambles. Do Better for God's Freakin sake@@NinaIseri
@SwagSwagSenate
@SwagSwagSenate 3 ай бұрын
​@@NinaIserithe original with mods is better at cheaper price and mods are free.
@prizixz
@prizixz 3 ай бұрын
I have the OG star wars battlefront 2 for xbox original and i have never seen that hero before. Maybe it was added for later copies
@FatherOMalley
@FatherOMalley 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for being honest. So many bots are out here (especially on steam) telling people to buy it.
@JoiceVaderd
@JoiceVaderd 3 ай бұрын
I have Star Wars Battlefront 2 on PC, and i don't play multiplayer because the game doesn't even run well, when I join a server. Lots of stuttering, my character jumping all over the maps, etc. It's basically unplayable. So I never play multiplayer. Sucks to hear this because I was hoping that would be fixed, with this port.
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
Odd... I found the original's multiplayer to run perfectly fine.
@JoiceVaderd
@JoiceVaderd 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars I built my rig in 2017. Ryzen 7 1700, RX 580 8GB, 16 GB DDR4 RAM, ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS motherboard, and my desktop is hooked up via ethernet cable. It should run the game just fine, but I've never had success. Bought the game on PC a few years ago. Still have 1000 hrs on single player alone. I'm just excited to get this on PS5, to play with my friends. We'll see what happens, tomorrow.
@Aqueox
@Aqueox 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars I've been playing on PC BFII and I'm with him. It's very laggy. Not low FPS lag, but actual server lag. Battlefront, the first one, is perfectly fine however. Just nobody seems to play it. Though I haven't checked lately so... Off I go.
@xavisonline
@xavisonline 3 ай бұрын
​@@Aqueoxrecently there's been 1 or 2 active servers at any given time. This is probably temporary though, and once the collection drops everyone will move to that for a while before this $40 'Active Playerbase' dlc expires and the servers die. Then we go back to waiting and begging for these corporations to figure out that YES we want the IP, but NO we do not want it to be a barely functional nightmare with a draconian monetization scheme. To which they will respond by putting the IP in a vault, firing half their staff, signing off on a larger bonus for themselves, and doing this all over again every 5 years until we die.
@JoiceVaderd
@JoiceVaderd 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars I just started playing this game on my PS5. Made my own server and didn't experience any lag. After a few matches, my game crashed. That was an hour into my session. So far, so good.
@xxcaptninjaxx4301
@xxcaptninjaxx4301 3 ай бұрын
my only disappointing for this battlefront classic collection 1. could added psp spin off like elite squadron and renegade squadron into the collection 2. mod support on pc for mod community
@shadow-squid4872
@shadow-squid4872 3 ай бұрын
The end-of-mission cutscenes for each level in the Rise of the Empire campaign are seemingly missing, the intro cutscenes play like normal but once the mission ends you’re just booted to the next mission select screen. Very bad considering that most of the games story is told through those cutscenes and with half of them missing you’re essentially missing out on half of the story as a whole
@-CrimsoN-
@-CrimsoN- 3 ай бұрын
Does the first Battlefront feature the tutorial videos from the console versions?
@100StarWars
@100StarWars 3 ай бұрын
I don't remember seeing that.
@-CrimsoN-
@-CrimsoN- 3 ай бұрын
@@100StarWars Okay thanks for the response! Not a big deal, but I love those tutorials even though I already know how to play the games lol
@Aqueox
@Aqueox 3 ай бұрын
@@-CrimsoN- C A P T U R I N G C O M M A N D P O S T S I S Y O U R P R I M A R Y O B J E C T I V E
@Billybobjoe
@Billybobjoe 3 ай бұрын
@@-CrimsoN- IN GALACTIC CONQUEST!
@-CrimsoN-
@-CrimsoN- 3 ай бұрын
@@Billybobjoe You battle your enemy one planet at a time for TOTAL CONTROL OF THE GALAXY.
@Red-zh7vq
@Red-zh7vq 3 ай бұрын
I’d rather get this instead of buying a whole ass computer
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 ай бұрын
Your loss though. You'll be missing out on other classics like TIE Fighter and Empire at War.
@nighthare19
@nighthare19 3 ай бұрын
​@@michaelandreipalon359 debatable because some may not like those types of games
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 ай бұрын
@@nighthare19 Never hurts to try them though. Many people have once adamantly refused to play games like Sins of a Solar Empire and Star Control II, and ended up regretting their lateness when they changed their minds a long time later.
@nighthare19
@nighthare19 3 ай бұрын
@michaelandreipalon359 Yeah, you aren't wrong
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