Nope any technique has a counter under the right circumstances. I did this video to open peoples eyes to the good and bad of techniques in FMA. Stick grappling as emphasized by some instructors is almost close to useless in a real fight and against someone who is a decent grappler. Try doing these techniques against even a decent high school wrestler

Nope just stating the obvious why dont you try those techniques against a real grappler and see where it gets you.

@@AlvinAguilarKnows I have and I've had success against real grapplers. Try finding someone who knows how to execute them properly and doesn't just give up the escape and you might find there's actual application to stick grappling

Really? Pls show me or better yet since you sound like an expert why dont you send us a video of you grappling with a stick against a real wrestler or jiujitsu guy?

Hmmm another one who believes that stuff. Ok let do this can you be in my next video and show me?

@@AlvinAguilarKnows Though I do get and understand the, show us against somebody who is an expert in a field that specializes it mentality, at the same time, the difference between applying it on somebody with a skill, and applying it against your drunk uncle is a different context. I do agree that a technique should also work against a trained specialist in another department, but not everybody who you do it on is going to be a master, and you will have situations where it will work within that context. The fallacy of everybody you will be doing something on is a master of defense doesnt mean something wont work in another context.

This stuff hardly works try it pls when you spar

@@AlvinAguilarKnows That'll be a great exchange of learning, Chief, if he can actually show us and give us actual pointers that work. :)

Its jiujitsu based. I know and have trained with Marc Denny

yes you trained with Marc Denny and it's BJJ-based but you still have not answered the question.

@@dhalav This may not answer the question. Since some of the material is paid content. It would not be polite to go into details about the different techniques. I do trained in dog brothers martial art. Here is my experience with grappling with stick. Sometimes it works and sometimes not. In full contact sparing you find out pretty quick what works and what does not work. Much repect to Guro Marc Denny for testing out different things in sparring and teaching it. I totally agree that a skilled grappler can be effective. There were footage from the gathering have shown it. DBMA is not exactly FMA there are other elements combined in it. Personally, I would not do it in real life. ASP batons or rifles would be a good representation of a stick. People do not walk around carrying a stick... maybe a baseball bat. The chances of using it is very low. It is mostly situational you would have to grapple with a weapon. I would prefer to avoid it. People who carry them are taught counter weapon grab against average people. I had some weapon retention training. I thought to myself if I had to go against a black belt Jiu-Jitsu I would be so screwed. As shock as it might be there is someone teaching grabbling with a rifle. I watched the material and it looked like stick grabbling or classical jiujitsu.

I believe you are half right right about stick grappling. Not every criminal is going to know self-defense or martial arts. If you grappled with an inexperienced hostile person, I doubt they’re going to have time to think about how to get out of grappling with a stick.

Yo he visto a los Dog brother cayéndose a coñazo tú has visto a éste wuebon ?

Were all trained grapplers 27 years to be exact and have been training FMA since i was 9. Try using all that in a real fight against an actual grappler and watch. Unfortunately so many people believe in that when people like us who were born and raised in the Philippines know the real reason why these techniques all of a sudden were taught.

Weve been trying to get the people who teach these kind of techniques to people to show up and demonstrate this😆😂 The premise is they must not have any grappling experience only stick grappling the way it is taught in some FMA schools. They can go with any grappler from the clinch position and can even strike. Well keep you posted once here on video👍🏼😊

We are all on our own path. I am sharing mine and if i did those techniques against those intent on hurting me, i wouldnt be around. When we train, we must always assume that our opponent is the strongest and most dangerous person. Im glad you were able to use your aikido to defend yourself.

@@AlvinAguilarKnows you are right sir well said, my backround is actualy FMA. the aikido move i did to my buddy who grabbed me by surprise is actualy what i saw on you tube but what is a suprise for me is that the most simple move can be effective somtimes even i think what i did is not effective but it works somehow. But still you are right you will never know what or who you will encounter its better to assume your opponent. 👍👍👍

It is very easy to counter if you dont think so pls be in my next video and show us with a resisting opponent

@@AlvinAguilarKnows That'll be nice. Looking forward to that, Chief! :)

Actually ive been doing FMA for 38 years and have instructorships in several styles so i love FMA. What i dont like though is when so called “masters” embellish techniques when it comes to grappling or “stick grappling”

I'm not flying to the Filipines to see you. I would be more than willing for us to test out ideas. I'm in the usa. Try the baseball bat choke with the stick. Pleaseif you want others to take this seriously, show real resistance in the examples of the first several minutes. Many people watching this have successfully used these fighting in live matches. Getting defensive on your comments wont convince anyone.

Thanks for your inputs and yes it just comes natural for me to say show me so sorry about that.😆😖 I do these videos to show my journey and what has worked for me in the past. I also want the real lethal and beautiful techniques of FMA to be highlighted and not the embellished ones. I grew up learning these techniques as well as others from other styles in the Philippines. We all came to the conclusion regarding them. Stick grappling in itself is almost useless unless you also have a background in a legitimate grappling art to back it up. Positioning from jiujitsu plus stick strikes are always good totally agree there as well👍🏼👍🏼😊

Once IATF approves were all waiting as well😖

@@AlvinAguilarKnows Nice coach I'm excited to watch that fight.

Always welcome to drop by our gym and show us. 👍🏼👍🏼😊

Estoy cagado weobon !

En teoría puedo joder a todo el mundo!

There are styles that are primarily for impact weapons and some for bolos/blades. Although the angles are very identical blade work is slightly different. Sure thats and excellent idea, i will definitely do that thanks👍🏼👍🏼😊

Uhh no never claimed that actually but one thing i do have is hella more real life encounters than most which is the basis for what i show in my videos.

What you showed were strawmen. If you want me in your video fine. I got no problem dm you my location. A large point is you are using a strawman in a dynamic situation. He does X, you stayed there and allowed him such. Would a seasoned grappler do such? Unlikely. Would a seasoned mma person do such? Unlikely. They'd make an adjustment.

Mike is Brown Belt in Jiujitsu and undefeated in MMA during his career. Do you train jiujitsu as well? Pls share where you train. Also are you in the Philippines? I would love to have you show us. If youre in the Philippines ill fly you out to us here on me so you can show me😊

@@AlvinAguilarKnows I am on Oahu in Hawaii. I've done some bjj at Alliance. My point being you as the feeder acted as a srrawman to his attacks. Fighting is a continuum not a vacuum. He counters you counter.

Grappling with a stick works.

I know and have trained with them here in the Philippines. Their stick grappling is Jiujitsu based. They make it work because they also have grappling backgrounds. This is the message here. Their President Marc Denny also hosted me for awhile in the US. There are instructors that say grappling with the stick is effective without grappling backgrounds. Those are the falacies we are exposing. FMA has so many beautiful and lethal techniques which we should promote and not the embellished ones. Lastly although i love the Dog Brother format and spar that way myself, if we did that on the streets here in the Philippines we would get really hurt. This is based on my actual experiences.

@@AlvinAguilarKnows i agree 50%, It Work Work, on the mat ir streets. Bit I cant add Variations on every fight. You ll be hurt if fight with stick grappling un the streets of phillipines, because your oponent may Carry a joden knife? Yes. And you can fue at moment you gran tour Blade if I Carry a gun. Ir because at moment you start to fight, 5 Friends of them come and helo him. If dont stop to add Variations, and Focus tour energy and training to defeat the oponent you hace un front, or never Will get a good escenario yo fight

Guns are a different dynamic we will discuss soon👍🏼👍🏼😊

Better than actually validating it for yourself, right?

@@FMASource I thought about grappling with a stick during the enhanced quarantine here but can't test it due to the pandemic I prefer not to grapple with anyone in these times. An insight from a martial artist with vast knowledge that I respect helps a lot. By the way I also watch and enjoy your videos. Thank you for sharing good contents too.

Hello, Sir. Daryl Carreon here. Pleasantly surprised to see you here. 🙏

@@KamenRider1 hey bro! I have lots of respect with Prof. Alvin's vast knowledge of martial arts he surely has great stuffs to share.

I do these videos to open people eyes. I have trained FMA for more than 30 years and have been in too many fights i care to remember. If you dont believe me get ANY wrestler or Jiujitsu Black belt and try “stick grapple” him. Pls video it also so we can all see.

Nobody says you don't have experience, Indeed a lot of FMA has very poor stick grappling (or even grappling in general), but stick grappling has been explored for years in a way it cannot be ignored, especially by Dog Brothers. What you have done with this video is willingly ignore this only to adress stick grappling as unpractical as a whole. It was a poor demonstration, and the fact you like to fight and violence doesn't prove your point.

Grappling with a stick can work if you know how to grapple. For me it’s Jiu Jitsu. But if people are learning stick grappling with no knowledge of grappling then good luck.

I have trained with the Dog brothers here in the Philippines their grappling is also jiujitsu based. I am only opening everyones eyes as to what all the old timers here in the Philippines already know. I will also be interviewing them so everyone can see for themselves. Yes i was part of a violent culture before but i now use my experience to help people actually defend themselves for real. Can you imagine teaching a smaller guy stick grappling or a smaller female?

Yes also a good point

Uhhh ok😆

Which one? send them to do the gym ive fought lots of FMA “masters”😂 we are there everyday😊

@@AlvinAguilarKnows IF you’ve actually “fought all types of FMA guys” then WHERE are the videos? Anybody can *SAY* literally _anything_ but …EVERYBODY has a video recording device present at ALL times. I’d love to see these videos of these …”fights” proving your points sir.

Good times👍🏼👍🏼😊

Exactly we should use the stick for what it was really made for. I make these videos to open peoples eyes to what really works. I grew up learning all of that as well. People from other styles here did also. We have all come to the conclusion that these are close to useless. The people who can use sticks while grappling are those who have good grappling backgrounds to begin with. If you only have “stick grappling” WITHOUT any real grappling it won work. That being said distance and striking is what ive seen in the streets ALL the time. Whoever fell down or tripped got really pounded. If you attenpted grappling with a stick it wouldnt end well.

Reason not to drop the stick is, your opponent's companion might pick them up, or if your opponent is on top and he escapes he'll get to the sticks first.

Thank you very much for sharing your experience with us here. We all really appreciate it👍🏼👍🏼😊

@@AlvinAguilarKnows Everyone appreciates this channel! 🙂

For this we have, numerous times in the street and in training😊 If you have anyone in mind pls have whoever drop by the gym and try👍🏼👍🏼😊

You came here , to try what happen

We sent you the gyms address drop by 👍🏼😊

Thanks bro. We have to really show the reality of things especially when it comes to FMA👍🏼👍🏼😊

Stupid people always talk on the internet as if they are fighters 😂 drop by our gym anytime we are there everyday and pls show us what was stupid about the demo😆

I feel sorry for people like you who have never been in actual real fights where people actually got hurt and in some cases died. Well not really but when it comes to this context i do. Your only truth is from people who teach or fight in controlled environments. What i show is what i learned from the numerous masters and what i went thru in actual REAL FIGHTS. I guarantee you will not make any “stick grappling” work if you were any of the situations we were in before😂 So funny when foreigners all think they know better than the country where the art itself started😂😂😂

Oh pls show me and say that. Im at the gym EVERY DAY. When can you drop by?

@@AlvinAguilarKnows showing something static and where you place the stick doesn't inflict much pain. In addition, you have to set up the chokes. Where are the strikes with the Punyo. I do agree that a couple of your moves of placing the stick under the arm is not realistic unless you have willing partner. You can't approach stick grappling the same as you would bjj. I appreciate the video because it opens dialog

Really why dont you be in my next video and show me?

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@@AlvinAguilarKnows ok