Is SunnyV2 Faking Videos? | Asmongold Reacts

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Жыл бұрын

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@truepatrician4700
@truepatrician4700 Жыл бұрын
SunnyV2 being exposed by sunnyV3
@sunrupuk9634
@sunrupuk9634 Жыл бұрын
Literally Clone wars
@Tearintime
@Tearintime Жыл бұрын
@@JokerFey the institute would like to know your location
@knightshade3d51
@knightshade3d51 Жыл бұрын
It’s the future. Asmongold will be exposed by Asmongbald.
@Erc294
@Erc294 Жыл бұрын
@@knightshade3d51 Asmongold rose to popularity by exposing Asmonsilver, who in turn exposed Asmonbronze. So makes sense Asmonplatinum will expose Asmongold
@grendelkourt
@grendelkourt Жыл бұрын
This comment thread is the best XD
@moxlolol
@moxlolol Жыл бұрын
The hilarious part about this is his video style is exactly the same as SunnyV2s lmao
@MyaB1986
@MyaB1986 Жыл бұрын
Yep total copycat. He even pronounces words the same.
@ShaunInce123
@ShaunInce123 Жыл бұрын
He even stated that he was inspired by SunnyV2 which makes it even funnier.
@lehuydang3576
@lehuydang3576 Жыл бұрын
truly a SunnyV3 moment
@susinator
@susinator Жыл бұрын
So I was listening to this video at work, and wasn't able to see the screen as much, and I had a tough time differentiating between Anarchist and Sunny.
@theninjabird9510
@theninjabird9510 Жыл бұрын
So?
@helpidroppedmydignity6138
@helpidroppedmydignity6138 Жыл бұрын
Some of Sunny's "downfall" videos do seem like unnecessary personal attacks, which isn't a good look when most of your videos are about stating the obvious
@scorch4299
@scorch4299 Жыл бұрын
maybe theyre just "personal attacks" because you like the person hes talking about
@helpidroppedmydignity6138
@helpidroppedmydignity6138 Жыл бұрын
@@scorch4299 I can't stand Ninja and I don't know or don't watch most of the people Sunny talks about. I can easily turn that argument on you being defensive about him. See how dumb that sounds?
@themanbehindyou.216
@themanbehindyou.216 Жыл бұрын
@@scorch4299 I like SunnyV2, but some of his videos are DEFINITELY personal attacks. His Ninja video was not only unnecessary but was filled with insults towards Ninja. I don't even like the guy, but I could tell Sunny despised him and that hate slipped through thr cracks and into the video, which overall made it a worse experience
@dannyblad3863
@dannyblad3863 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say they are personal attacks, its purely for monetary gain. He is just covering topics that will get him the most clicks *Edit* commented before I watched the video. 12:29 he pretty much said it for me
@scorch4299
@scorch4299 Жыл бұрын
@@helpidroppedmydignity6138 oh, Im an adult. I already know ALL these people are bad people. That's why they're famous in the first place - because they're willing to do the immoral shit no one else will. But you, child, will learn this in time, too.
@TomEpQm
@TomEpQm Жыл бұрын
3:20 literally the reason Sunny rubbed me the wrong way from the jump. His video on Harley from Epic Meal Time and Smosh were the first videos I saw and it was mostly just him criticizing them for no longer being as big as they once were and almost implying that it somehow is a reflection of their value as individuals. Like describing dropping numbers in the same tone someone would describe a creator getting into controversy. I get being dramatic and performative for your content but when the subject of your video is analyzing the livelihood and commercial success of someone's public work and what that says about who they are, that can very easily cross into toxic territory.
@nicodelle7160
@nicodelle7160 Жыл бұрын
He has a very weird penchant of kicking people while they're down and designing fake reasons as to why The reality is youtube popularity ebbs and flows. People experience their years of mass popularity and it fades. Natural progression. So for him to pin it on random things as he does is irresponsible and tone deaf
@colonelsanders1349
@colonelsanders1349 Жыл бұрын
@@an0m1c7 Simp
@carljonsson2647
@carljonsson2647 Жыл бұрын
@@an0m1c7 The Belle Delphine video was so trash. He was like " Oh wow here we see on the graph that she massively fell off and her career died!!! " but as he stated it's cus she purposefully stopped posting. That shouldnt be surprising at all. If MrBeast stops posting tomorrow he'd make some dramatic video about MrBeast " falling off " even if it was clearly a conscious choice lol. When someone stops posting we shouldnt talk about how their " careers died!! " as if it's always a bad thing. Some people need a break or need to rethink their careers. I bet he'll make one on Pewdiepie in a few years even if it's super clear Pewdiepie isnt posting to be at the top anymore. He's already made it and is posting for the fun of it, not to chase numbers.
@WeebJail
@WeebJail Жыл бұрын
uh idk i saw his epicmealtime video and i not only remember thinking it was fair, im pretty sure harley left a comment saying it was fair. wasnt the point of his video that theyre just milking the same thing they have been since they started which is obviously not as popular but harleys just doing that because he wants to do that and his comment was like yea basically i get to eat stupid food for a living
@kwoni3337
@kwoni3337 Жыл бұрын
Yea there's def some weird superiority complex going on with him
@ShaunInce123
@ShaunInce123 Жыл бұрын
Sunnyv2 being "exposed" by Sunny V3 or 4. I dunno, I've lost count on how many clones there are. I have noticed there have been a lot of copycats that have cropped up once Sunny got really popular. Sunny does have some flawed & questionable videos that he has made, but I still like his videos. I'd say the Primitive Technology & the more recent Boogie video are two examples of good videos that came from Sunny.
@dustinrausch5008
@dustinrausch5008 Жыл бұрын
When your content is exposé videos and you're trying to put out content on a consistent basis, everything starts to look like a potential exposé. His videos are good when they're about things actually worth discussing, like the videos you mentioned, but then he has other videos like the ones about Ninja, Dream, or Bella Delphine that are just kinda weak and pointless.
@hallow6763
@hallow6763 Жыл бұрын
I also liked his videos, but his videos aren't that informative tbh. It's more drama and no conclusion, he often also misstate (idk if it's the right word not my first language sry) the facts like "yter xy fell off cause this and this drama". Even if the reason why is that after 2020 every content creators numbers fell of cause the people did go more outside etc.
@sobered1344
@sobered1344 Жыл бұрын
Lol, right? Its like SunnyV2 copycat
@LonestarNomad_
@LonestarNomad_ Жыл бұрын
Honestly my biggest issue with v2, v7 or whoever many clones there are now, is the consistent was they speak. Every senteeeeence, is littered with words thaaaat, are so unbearably drawn ouuuttttttt. Instantly takes me out of any point they are saying. I can only focus on those words.
@ringwraith1040
@ringwraith1040 Жыл бұрын
It doesnt even matter if the videos are flawed or questionable when you have idiots like these guys that just say "Sunny is a piece of shit and he got exposed, anyways continuing on" without providing any evidence or anything
@Fediel
@Fediel Жыл бұрын
Sunny's Ninja video is absolutely unhinged and he makes so many claims without anything to back them up. It's starting to get ridiculous how many people watch his videos without thinking critically about them. SunnyV2's formula: Make a claim or personal attack on an e-celeb -> scramble and find comments/tweets that agree with him no matter how few. Some of his videos are actually informational, but certainly not all of them.
@Hath.0
@Hath.0 Жыл бұрын
He's making videos giving his personal opinion, not making a documentary. I don't think he's making videos to be informative at all. He's basically making gossip videos about popular people to farm views and entertainment purposes.
@Fediel
@Fediel Жыл бұрын
@@Hath.0 Yeah but some people interpret it as informative. Asmon seems to think so
@redjakOfficial
@redjakOfficial Жыл бұрын
He makes too much vids to have the time to truely research the subject or verify his sources. The few good points he makes are for the most part lost in a sea of unverified and often irrelevent factoids. If Coffeezilla is comparable to a legit journalist, V2 is more like a sensationalist tabloid columnist.
@MontySlython
@MontySlython Жыл бұрын
@@redjakOfficial i disagree, his upload schedule and extremely simple editing gives plenty of time to research, even if he has a full time job behind it ( almost certainly he does)
@TacticalReaper56
@TacticalReaper56 Жыл бұрын
You're asking people who prefer 6seconds clips to think critically. Bless your heart you sweet person.
@flayshon
@flayshon Жыл бұрын
27:26 Asmon fails to realize that Sunny does this very same thing
@Entropie460
@Entropie460 Жыл бұрын
True 😂😂😂😂
@JustEPIC19
@JustEPIC19 Жыл бұрын
So true
@EvanFleming-wh4ey
@EvanFleming-wh4ey Жыл бұрын
That part of the video was so strange lol. He was just attacking the videos based on clips of their 5 second introductions for not presenting any real arguments. Like, I'm sure the authors of those videos elaborated on why SunnyV2's video was wrong, but because Asmongold is only shown a small clip of the intro (thanks to the editing of the main viedo he is reacting to) he just doesn't see them. But he still goes and attacks the videos because he isn't presented an argument in the obviously clipped thesis statement/introduction. So I guess he assumed the 5-10 second clips were the entire videos?
@xissaxragerx6603
@xissaxragerx6603 Жыл бұрын
I thought sunny was doing a hit piece on sunny for a minute 😂
@Jeffrey_Tyler
@Jeffrey_Tyler Жыл бұрын
SunnyV2 ran into the same issue with me that some other KZfaqrs have, or even people like John Oliver, I always thought they knew what they were talking about, or gave them the benefit of the doubt, until I saw them talk about something that I know about and they ended up being completely wrong. And that makes you think what else are they wrong about if they're completely wrong about this topic that I'm versed in?
@majora919
@majora919 Жыл бұрын
Did you watch the whole video lol?
@Hath.0
@Hath.0 Жыл бұрын
I think people misinterpret his videos as some factual mini documentary. When in reality he is giving his personal opinion, showing how or why he came to that conclusion. They are more entertainment and less information. He uses people with large fan bases to farm views. I think people are looking to deep into it. Dude with an opinion made a video about someone.
@MontySlython
@MontySlython Жыл бұрын
@@Hath.0 thats what he frames them as though, its very clear the style of content hes going for so that defense doesnt particularly work.
@Hath.0
@Hath.0 Жыл бұрын
@@MontySlythonI would call that a "defense". I wouldn't consider him a documentarian, he even categorizes his own videos under commentary. It would be like considering Internet Historian's video as actual history. From what I've gather about sunnyv2 is most of the people who dislike him is becuase he painted someone they like in a bad light. Others don't care either way becuase they see it as what it is, a commentary video for entertainment purposes. Whatever his formula, it's working. Like him or not, people know him, he's cranking out videos and getting views.
@MontySlython
@MontySlython Жыл бұрын
@@Hath.0 incorrect, you might by some stretch of the imagination have seen his style to be that but he blatantly structures his videos and his sentences when speaking of something as if its a direct documentary of the facts and doesnt lead actual opinion based commentary with any indication that what he says next is just what he thinks, he also obviously behaves as if his opinions are the majority opinion and brings up comments with a few likes as evidence of this. Your view of people that dislike his content is rather childish as well, half the comments say, "i dont give two shits about ninja, but he really dropped the ball in that video" and other shit along those lines.
@ChaosLemonVIII
@ChaosLemonVIII Жыл бұрын
Sunny literally built his brand off of shit talking people, digging up dubious drama or even starting drama for no reason. Not someone you'd want to know in real life, but thrives online.
@Tsukino1011
@Tsukino1011 Жыл бұрын
And that’s cool, be mad because you want to lmao
@aphexamine
@aphexamine Жыл бұрын
@@Tsukino1011 lots of very mad ppl in the comments here. SunnyV2 provides information. if his information is wrong then it would be easy to make a viral video showing that. if ppl dont like SunnyV2 they most likely either dont like the truth or refuse to accept it.
@DillonMagreveous
@DillonMagreveous Жыл бұрын
Not what he does but ok…
@rusland9
@rusland9 Жыл бұрын
@@aphexamine maybe he's telling the true facts but he clearly has a bias in portraying those facts in a more dramatic or negative way, speculating on them, because usually no one really knows what happens in their personal life and their head, so all this dramatic presentation seems unnecessary and mean spirited. That's why I stopped watching these reactions.
@zeallust8542
@zeallust8542 Жыл бұрын
@@aphexamine You know Sunny has had tons of his points disproven dozens, if not hundreds, of times? Right?
@LyricalViking
@LyricalViking Жыл бұрын
SunnyV2 just does the bare minimum to create these types of informational videos, doesn't verify his sources prior and just farms content out of people without much thought.
@poggybiscuit862
@poggybiscuit862 Жыл бұрын
The comments are mad as well, thinkin he's Christ. Same with critikal's comment section. Just lowest tier of storyteller imo. Bends and stretches most fax imo
@FirstLast-dh8ks
@FirstLast-dh8ks Жыл бұрын
verify what? he bases things off of like social blade stats.
@TristianLew
@TristianLew Жыл бұрын
This is pretty much on the nose. Watch any SunnyV2 video and it's just the video zooming in on random twitter comments to articulate his main point, which he never really lands, and then just moves on to the next incomplete example. He clearly has a skill for creating farmable, and interesting content. It's probably fine too watch when it comes to unimportant topics, but should be taken with a few extra grains of salt than your typical media.
@Hath.0
@Hath.0 Жыл бұрын
They aren't research papers, they are the personal view of a guy who makes videos on KZfaq. His videos are like a tabloid magazine, to get attention and views not be informative.
@samc6974
@samc6974 Жыл бұрын
@@Hath.0 This, everyone who enjoys watching Sunny just want his takes since it's human nature to be attracted to controversy/drama. So many creators do this for confirmation bias. It's not wrong or even mean spirited most the time. This video could have been made on Gamerfrommars, CritiKal, Turkey Tom, Quinton Reviews, Pyrocynical, etc...
@TuniM.
@TuniM. Жыл бұрын
Editors finally uploaded the correct video xd
@cringemeat9430
@cringemeat9430 Жыл бұрын
I never liked sunny ever since he had that streak of only doing “the down fall of this random youtuber” and all the video does is give a very surface level history lesson on the channel he’s talking about and then at the end he’s like “well they just dropped a bit in views”
@spacequack5470
@spacequack5470 Жыл бұрын
@@KaleidosXXI Said nobody with functioning brain cells.
@lordspotato5032
@lordspotato5032 Жыл бұрын
@@KaleidosXXIhe never argued that SunnyV2 is immune to criticism though. That’s just something you made up.
@Tsukino1011
@Tsukino1011 Жыл бұрын
“Oh no I never liked someone because of something first”cool bro I’m still watching his videos who cares lol
@cringemeat9430
@cringemeat9430 Жыл бұрын
@@Tsukino1011 the quarter of a million people who watched the original video do
@herdoman5169
@herdoman5169 Жыл бұрын
@@Tsukino1011 bro who cares that you still watch his videos, just let a man state his opinion and experiences. No reason to be like that
@Vordt_
@Vordt_ 10 ай бұрын
He made a video saying the yogscast died when they just switched content and still maintained the view amount while he neglected to mention anything about the charity streams they do that amass millions of dollars every year for a variety of charities.
@blech71
@blech71 Жыл бұрын
The mystery behind not knowing drives the brand. Banksy is a good example. It’s not that it’s solely why but it has def helped and kept his art prices really high. I def think it’s additive and if it keeps going becomes multiplicative over time.
@Ligiit21
@Ligiit21 Жыл бұрын
I normally agree with most of Asmongold thoughts and ideas, but this video seem really hard for me to agree with just because it doesn't seem like he is actually giving his thoughts about it and instead is trying to force positivity towards Sunnyv2 in a ungenuine way.
@Entropie460
@Entropie460 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he is defending a lot
@epyjacek
@epyjacek Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure he cares that much, maybe he woke up in a good mood.
@JustEPIC19
@JustEPIC19 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you I immediately felt the same way which is rare for me with Asmon.
@YoursTruly55
@YoursTruly55 Жыл бұрын
Yeap, drunk too much stupidity juice today
@monkeyman9503
@monkeyman9503 Жыл бұрын
His first few minutes were next level retarded. "Everyone's a hypocrite" means you can't criticize anyone for contradicting what they say? He wouldn't see it as a valid argument to call out (in a hypothetical) Greta Thunberg for burning a tonne of plastic? Some other popular activist for going against their beliefs? Individual hypocrisy doesn't justify qualifying arguments of hypocrisy as obsolete. Else he would be defending predatory, lying politicians (which, as I am not an avid Asmongold viewer) on the count "Everyone lies" and "everyones, to a degree, predatory." Which I'd bet my life he'd never say. I couldn't watch past a few minutes of the video, sadly. It reeked of either bias or brain damage. Maybe WoW took his final brain cells from him, idk.
@mariapaz6379
@mariapaz6379 Жыл бұрын
i feel like whoever made this video on sunnyV2 didn't make the best arguments, and also didn't choose the best clips of the joel's channel. Both of Joel's videos are great, they are made on his nonscripted channel, so to begin with, they lack seriousness.
@ksiyuen9039
@ksiyuen9039 Жыл бұрын
this guy is sunnyV3 now
@zagdyo9115
@zagdyo9115 Жыл бұрын
SunnyV2 videos are very obviously skewed and dramatized. He makes "downfall" videos of people who voluntarily left public life like Belle Delphine or who are still very big like Ethan Klein, and if you've been on the internet for long enough it's not hard to realize the kind of bias that informs his videos.
@appleseed4672
@appleseed4672 Жыл бұрын
you know that meme that goes "my source is that I made it the fuck up", that's sunny's content summarized
@zagdyo9115
@zagdyo9115 Жыл бұрын
@@appleseed4672 pretty much
@zeallust8542
@zeallust8542 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, H3 fell off
@zeallust8542
@zeallust8542 Жыл бұрын
@I Just Wanna Talk About Games At least they used to be entertaining
@CorwinTheOneAndOnly
@CorwinTheOneAndOnly Жыл бұрын
I'm still wondering exactly where and why and when I'm actually supposed to care, tho. This entire thing just feels like people getting into slappy fights with eachother over things that don't matter.
@TangentX703
@TangentX703 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say, I always enjoy your commentary. Saw you for the first time with the Linus review of your pcs. Wild that you did that.
@sturenorth
@sturenorth Жыл бұрын
Its a bit cringey when Asmon forces him self to be contrerian. He actually saw and understood Joel 100% then proceeds to restate Joels point and disagree only to arrive at the SAME POINT yourself.
@Entropie460
@Entropie460 Жыл бұрын
Yes this 100%
@appleseed4672
@appleseed4672 Жыл бұрын
what makes it worse is the amount of streamers and youtubers who call his channel informational, when most of his "evidence" is using tweets or comments from randos on the internet who agree and enforce with his already biased views
@johnmadden6521
@johnmadden6521 Жыл бұрын
Opinions are cringe
@AvionInfinity
@AvionInfinity Жыл бұрын
Its because taking any video you see as the absolute truth without questioning it is imbecilic. Always be skeptical of what someone is telling you, especially when they get paid for it.
@austinrock7636
@austinrock7636 5 ай бұрын
lol joel is cringe I couldn't get thru half the original vid without making a disgusted face. Had to come on here to get a breather every once in a while cause holy fuck
@nataliet4293
@nataliet4293 Жыл бұрын
Something triggered the shit out of asmon around 24 min in and I have no idea what it was. Like no shit an intro compilation isn't going to have arguments in it. And as far as I can tell the problem with that sunny kid is that he kind of pretends to be the arbiter of facts and logic while hand waving. There is no reason a counter take down has to go above and beyond no-u. And I say this as someone who can't believe big joel was used as a point of the narrative turning against sunny because he's got his own audience who is more worried about vibes and aesthetics of chud takedowns.
@EvanFleming-wh4ey
@EvanFleming-wh4ey Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was so jarring lol. He's shown these 5 second tidbits/clips of videos' introductions and then disparages the entire videos on the basis that they contain no arguments. Even though it would have been impossible for him to know that (or even reasonably assume) without watching said videos in their entirety.
@kiiturii
@kiiturii Жыл бұрын
fr he even rewinded just to look at it again, whole time I was thinking it's just an intro segment lmfao
@coreyjr121
@coreyjr121 Жыл бұрын
It’s just like his source for someone’s downfall is a random post or comment with either little upvotes or like. At first I liked his videos, then I realized his trend. Also most of these companies/creators haven’t fallen off.
@flayshon
@flayshon Жыл бұрын
But then when other people does the same to sunny (as seem with some of the videos included here) Asmon defends him lol
@Slethion
@Slethion Жыл бұрын
Im mindblown by how much the dude making the critic sounds like SunnyV2 (even same voice tone and accent and the way he stretches words)
@franciscolaurean8550
@franciscolaurean8550 Жыл бұрын
If SunnyV2 gets canceled about 100 streamers/youtubers will lose a lot of content 😭
@DanielMendoza-ny1hs
@DanielMendoza-ny1hs Жыл бұрын
Nah
@Yoder023
@Yoder023 Жыл бұрын
I just want to see "Downfall of SunnyV2" made by SunnyV2 And I want him to personal attack himself the exact way he does to others
@InternetAnarchist
@InternetAnarchist Жыл бұрын
The downfall of Internet Anarchist
@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466
@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Sunny will show damning evidence, such as someone in the comments with 8 likes saying that you fell off.
@S1ipperyJim
@S1ipperyJim Жыл бұрын
Asmon being a Sunny stan for 50 mins straight 😄
@user-cg1ib4zk3x
@user-cg1ib4zk3x Жыл бұрын
True just wasted my lunch watching this. Only for asmon to cry and defend. Pausing the video about 30 times from clips lol.
@aphexamine
@aphexamine Жыл бұрын
Asmon mentioned at one point that some need to get off the internet for obsessing over pizza boxes and these comments are another yet another example.
@kiiturii
@kiiturii Жыл бұрын
@@freedomextremist7215 yeah the video was really fucking bad but that doesn't make sunny any better of a person
@kyle8660
@kyle8660 Жыл бұрын
From 26:15 - 28:35 Asmon's argument doesn't make sense. He heard some soundbites, then concluded that they don't have any evidence for their claims. Unless he has watched the videos of these people (I'm only talking about the people between the timestamps) his argument would apply to him more so than them.
@MrConnorTV1
@MrConnorTV1 6 ай бұрын
A copy cat of SunnyV2 attacking him. Hilarious.
@headkicked
@headkicked Жыл бұрын
I always thought that guy who told his gf to shoot a book he was holding and then subsequently died after the bullet passed through the book and into him was the worst mistake, but hey, faking a wheelchair is pretty bad too.
@markymark2820
@markymark2820 6 ай бұрын
Asmon knocking the creators who make anti-sunnyv2 videos because they are character assassination videos when character assassination is literally what sunnyv2 built his channel off of is peak irony
@DarthRancid
@DarthRancid Жыл бұрын
It's your "brand". If you think of "brand" like a company image, then the different arguments make more sense and fall flat. You can change as a person, but fostering a specific online brand is a completely different thing.
@madqtpiey
@madqtpiey Жыл бұрын
can't wait to see sunnyV4 reaction video to all of this
@TheKotor2309
@TheKotor2309 Жыл бұрын
“iS aSmOn FaKiNg GoInG bAlD?”
@mkckey2418
@mkckey2418 Жыл бұрын
Watching this with no bias for either side is mad funny
@TheKellyGreen
@TheKellyGreen Жыл бұрын
The talking about money issue is across platforms and niches. Moms get pissed when mom influencers aren’t poor any more too. Also it happens in real life, people who knew you when you were broke will have issues if you don’t remain broke like they did., sometimes that includes your parents.
@gman7177
@gman7177 Жыл бұрын
Always wondered why more people weren't making comments about the ethics behind Sunny's videos. They're entertaining sure, but he purposely picks people who he knows are controversial or relatively disliked because he thinks that gives him a free pass to attack and poke fun at them. Some people he does videos on are already down bad and he uses the opportunity to jump on the bandwagon and embarrass them even more. People who didn't do anything wrong except make a dumb career choice.
@ringwraith1040
@ringwraith1040 Жыл бұрын
Cause its views? Its like moistcritical making videos about logan paul and shit and makes fun of them. everyone does it
@JustEPIC19
@JustEPIC19 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen Asmon this defensive in my life damnn.
@JustEPIC19
@JustEPIC19 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinweltje4604 that's true, those moments usually are short lasting (per person or subject) and to me everyone has those moments from time to time, but this one felt different to me.
@greasypee4791
@greasypee4791 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinweltje4604 mate, all streamers view down upon their audience thinking they’re all superior to them. Shouldn’t really be that surprising
@TheRealRealMClovin
@TheRealRealMClovin Жыл бұрын
@@kevinweltje4604 disagrees?by being dumd with attacking him or saying dumd shit just to make him look bad? They deserve what they get i tell you that. Tired of these sensitive society nutjobs who take one word of what you said in whole dialogue and make that up to be really bad instead of listening the entire conversation.
@TheRealRealMClovin
@TheRealRealMClovin Жыл бұрын
@@greasypee4791 yeah its their stream and channel basically their property. What i surprise they act like that.
@johnmadden6521
@johnmadden6521 Жыл бұрын
@@blimp..bro why are you so mad
@ChuggleDBuglGames
@ChuggleDBuglGames Жыл бұрын
Where did the wizard game go?!?
@Sedeerah
@Sedeerah Жыл бұрын
"His videos are informational"... does he mean defamational? SunnyV2 is about as informational as lower bar media outlets. Some facts, but mostly suggestive bad-mouthing.
@Lolmeep
@Lolmeep Жыл бұрын
Maybe look up the definition of defamation? He's not shitting on people hoping to ruin their reputation. He's basically kicking them while they're down.
@JN1NJA
@JN1NJA Жыл бұрын
In other words Sunny is a reactor. Like everyone else lmao
@Mahoneyyay
@Mahoneyyay Жыл бұрын
How's he defaming anyone ? Jhahha wut
@Fediel
@Fediel Жыл бұрын
It's not defamatory, but it's certainly not informational. They are highly opinionated. The only video where he was objective was his primative building vid
@FaizalKuntz
@FaizalKuntz Жыл бұрын
I just want to know what asmongold thinks about Sunny put his self insert thought in his documentary-like rise and fall videos and I got not much
@aspinnycracker
@aspinnycracker 10 ай бұрын
Asmongold's point about Sunny looking at raw stats of the channel = downfall is spot on for The Yogscast aswell He points out their KZfaq viewership and subscriber account has steadily declined, but theyre a multi million dollar company (supposedly) that gets plenty of money from Sponsorships, helping other channels, video game publication, and they also mainly prioritise Twitch over KZfaq aswell I still love Sunny's content, but that's one personal example I can talk about of why raw KZfaq stats don't equate to the success/wealth of the Yogscast
@lucyboy8276
@lucyboy8276 8 ай бұрын
When SunnyV2 released his video on Chris from MrBeast , he was on the crosshairs of Critical, Asmongold, MrBeast, Ludwig and every other big KZfaqr you can think of... He didn't even acknowledge the Twitter mob, he didn't apologize even when everyone in the world was trying their damn hardest to get him cancelled... AND HE STOOD THERE...UNFAZED... His video on chris is still up on his channel, with a positive Like to Dislike ratio. Only changed his video's title. That man has what we like to call A SPINE, COJONES OF STEEL. Can't Cancel the man who has studied Cancel culture and it's victims for the better part of 3 years.
@SobBaget602
@SobBaget602 7 ай бұрын
and he was right, mr beast is still going because chris left mostly.
@zezeorcrooks7641
@zezeorcrooks7641 Жыл бұрын
It's not the hog warts gameplay this's time 😭
@DavidBrocekArt
@DavidBrocekArt Жыл бұрын
There are two things cenrtain in the universe: 1) People are stupid 2) Someone who gets famous very quickly will become hated
@heinzerbrew
@heinzerbrew Жыл бұрын
This was a strange video to watch. Usually Asmongold listens a little bit before "ranting". In this video though, He sees the title of the video and essentially says wheres the facts? And when the person initially states their theisis, he's demmanding their proof/argument. It's weird because Asmongold knows it goes Thesis, then argument/supporting evidence/ etc. I feel like he got too emotional too really listen.
@Tclans
@Tclans Жыл бұрын
Stupid coincidental fact, the moment you talked about Kwebbelkop, I drove past his appartement.
@kainemarsh9001
@kainemarsh9001 Жыл бұрын
Ok?
@Arex778
@Arex778 7 ай бұрын
The dream face reveal really came around as dream wishes he could take it back.
@noraanti3397
@noraanti3397 Жыл бұрын
I actually disagree with nearly every argument asmon made here. He made purely circumstantial, emotional, and defensive arguments. Arguments starting with "I feel" or "it seems" and then calling the critics arguments bad arguments? It truly seems that asmon is defending his source that he has created many opinions and arguments around.
@daviduliasz2437
@daviduliasz2437 Жыл бұрын
At first I thought this was SunnyV2 making a video about SunnyV2. Ol buddy literally has the exact same vocal inflection; monotone, pitch shifts up until the comma, then trails down into vocal fry for the end of every sentence.
@d3monicwolf
@d3monicwolf Жыл бұрын
"Am i taking crazy pills here" is my new favorite quote
@calmkat9032
@calmkat9032 Жыл бұрын
Never expected to see Big Joel in an Asmongold video, cool!
@GGE415
@GGE415 6 ай бұрын
Did bro consciously or subconsciously use sunny V2 narration diction and delivery / cadence
@mizushirokanon9174
@mizushirokanon9174 Жыл бұрын
This video is equivalent of half hour review of 5 tweets with 5 reposts
@LAKD
@LAKD 10 ай бұрын
Sunnyv2 was never about facts. He relies on stating the obvious, whether his conclusions are true or not, he doesn't care. People praise it like fact, and that's the problem because a click worthy title is better than a good analysis to him
@sardar343
@sardar343 Жыл бұрын
So when Sunny criticizes people its all about feeling for Asmon, but when a group of creators say that Sunny is off with his criticisms, suddenly its all about facts. Personally just feels like Asmon is trying to protect a channel reaction to which makes him lots of views
@JN1NJA
@JN1NJA Жыл бұрын
Fake comment 😊
@Entropie460
@Entropie460 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this makes sense
@YoursTruly55
@YoursTruly55 Жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@kiiturii
@kiiturii Жыл бұрын
that's exactly how this felt to me as well
@ravenID429
@ravenID429 11 ай бұрын
Do you think he thinks the channel’s gonna get deleted or something lol
@Sevness
@Sevness Жыл бұрын
At 34:15 it sounds like it said "This argument seems to be bait" and I can't stop laughing
@jyuvgrace5364
@jyuvgrace5364 Жыл бұрын
12:46 "Norman Osborn" from the Spider-Man movie pretty much said the same thing : "But the one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you."
@jyuvgrace5364
@jyuvgrace5364 Жыл бұрын
Cool, congratulations to you too, you won 🖕
@ginjaedgy49
@ginjaedgy49 Жыл бұрын
editor's job is now on the lifeline ;)
@zeallust8542
@zeallust8542 Жыл бұрын
7:00 Asmon: But there are people that will fixate on that, I know it sounds crazy, but its because they are crazy Sunny: *literally fixating on it at the exact moment*
@spookyboi50
@spookyboi50 Жыл бұрын
Great to see some Hogwarts gameplay finally been waiting a while for this
@DeathMonkeyXL
@DeathMonkeyXL Жыл бұрын
They have same talking cadence, where the last syllable drops in octave. It irks me
@Pumciusz
@Pumciusz Жыл бұрын
Something's wrong, where are the dragons?
@jeffrey.a.hanson
@jeffrey.a.hanson Жыл бұрын
“The best singers aren’t often the best songwriters” There’s no direct correlation. As for Ninja- According to others, I assumed he was a deadbeat…until I saw an interview with Pat McAfee and Ninja is came off as incredibly responsible, hardworking, and engaging. He just has A LOT going on and doesn’t care what a Sunny thinks.
@gurmyigoll3535
@gurmyigoll3535 Жыл бұрын
Alright, looks like the clippers got the right title this time.
@sneekmuch
@sneekmuch Жыл бұрын
The number one idea behind making successful KZfaq content is entertainment so no matter how educational it is, entertaining always comes first…. Or the channel wouldn’t exist.
@twila7
@twila7 Жыл бұрын
Sunny V2 to OTK? Asmon really only seeing this from one perspective
@SpiderMNKY
@SpiderMNKY Жыл бұрын
next Sunny vid: The Downfall of Downfalls
@galegusto4407
@galegusto4407 Жыл бұрын
This video cuts out before the example videos get to their argument, which isn't a good look on this exact video, but going against the people making the original video for tyhe lack of following up wasn't it
@Abb0able
@Abb0able Жыл бұрын
About the pizza thing how many can a single pizza joint make without them getting cold?
@devincook1396
@devincook1396 Жыл бұрын
What's with the rabid defense of SunnyV2?
@alexbernard6220
@alexbernard6220 Жыл бұрын
Funny I was actually thinking the opposite lol
@kainemarsh9001
@kainemarsh9001 Жыл бұрын
@@alexbernard6220 He's talking about asmon dude, sunny is good content for him so of course he gonnah defend him as best he does since he always preaches after wtaching his vids how good the guy is
@YoursTruly55
@YoursTruly55 Жыл бұрын
Gotta defend the cashcow
@drewnes64
@drewnes64 Жыл бұрын
It's like Bellular: Once you realize negative news get smore views, go ham
@kaoticbacon4373
@kaoticbacon4373 Жыл бұрын
Never understood how one who creates no content criticize's or judges other content creators, yes i believe react content is not content like you said before nobody gives a f*** about another opinion.
@Calasso_
@Calasso_ Жыл бұрын
Farming content of people shit = ez money
@ShirksDireWolf
@ShirksDireWolf Жыл бұрын
29:20 true, an icon/mascot has a lot more effect then yourself would. take a look at Deadmau5, Daft Punk or even Vtubers. I think most dont know what Deadmau5 actually looks like, but his Mau5 head is definitely iconic and the same goes for the others. Daft Punk grew in popularity not as 2 French musicians but as 2 robots with style, and Vtubers are every were now, Id assume a video of a Vtuber acting goofy or lewed will get more views then them doing a face reveal. in the end people didnt come to your content hoping to one day get a face reveal, they came to the content for the aesthetics, personality and the material you are engaging in.
@aloevera7835
@aloevera7835 Жыл бұрын
first not everyone is a hypocrite thats just how you feel and second .. i guess nothing he didn't have a second point even tho he mentioned one
@p1ls726
@p1ls726 Жыл бұрын
I think his point is everyone is a hypocrite at some points in time. Could be wrong
@Entropie460
@Entropie460 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he loves to that if he not cares it’s not a problem or real
@aloevera7835
@aloevera7835 Жыл бұрын
@@p1ls726 he has no real point there Sometimes his takes are well formulated and have relevence but not this time
@xathridzeno6663
@xathridzeno6663 Ай бұрын
Yo the black ops zombies theme is distracting af 😂😂😂 goes to hard
@MotivatedMan
@MotivatedMan Жыл бұрын
I’m getting to the point that Coffeezilla bout to investigate himself
@ZeD69420
@ZeD69420 Жыл бұрын
Main problem with sunnyv2 is his facts are not true.
@PhatCunt
@PhatCunt Жыл бұрын
asmongold turning a ten minute video into a 2 hour one
@valkyrie283
@valkyrie283 Ай бұрын
I don’t think they were using the clips as evidence that sunnyv2 was wrong, he was demonstrating what he stated before the video, which was that that video prompted the commentary community to go after him to rip him a new one.
@DragonPanda
@DragonPanda Жыл бұрын
As a small streamer i can say that being 100% real and yourself is great, but creating a character for your internet persona is also a good thing. (BOTS ARE ALSO STUPID) but there are creators who go over the top and are too "fake" and its cringe ASF. being too real can be bad too( in a way ig?) but ill just stick to being myself, cause i dont really care about making a persona. im not that creative and not that energetic haha EDIT: I saw that someone copy/paste what i said so ill change it up a bit cause im surprised people still do that. I am not a bot tho!
@ascend2046
@ascend2046 Жыл бұрын
@@badboybullterriers4104 porn bots
@walter1383
@walter1383 Жыл бұрын
@@badboybullterriers4104 Bot accounts will copy earlier comments to garner attention and hopefully sucker some thirsty chump into clicking the sketchy links in their profile.
@DragonPanda
@DragonPanda Жыл бұрын
@@walter1383 wat ? lolol this isnt posted on two accounts bruh i just typed it xD
@DragonPanda
@DragonPanda Жыл бұрын
@@badboybullterriers4104 ??? i am confused by this i sir/ma'am am not a bot i just typed what i was thinking EDIT: I saw the comment you were talking about. And honestly i didnt even know people still did copy paste stuff. OOF. All i can say is that i actually did type this and then someone copied what i said. Which is really dumb. Maybe i should change it up a bit xD
@walter1383
@walter1383 Жыл бұрын
@@DragonPanda No worries, the copy bots happen to all of us mate. It's funny how easy they are to instantly recognize by the account names and pics they use lol.
@englishtea1057
@englishtea1057 Жыл бұрын
Where do these clips even come from?
@middlesiderrider
@middlesiderrider Жыл бұрын
Asmon-"Most people don't understand what a difference between two things even are." WTF was what sentence?
@lucckyZ
@lucckyZ Жыл бұрын
One thing that sunny does a lot on his channel is using things that may or may not be true to support his arguments. And he says it all the time the word "apparently", and other words on stuff he shows because he's not 100% sure, and he doesn't fully confirm it either. I think you can make a point by comparing his videos to coffezila. On the informational part sunny does the bare minimum, and also puts speculation without saying it's speculation. Meanwhile coffezilla goes above and beyond to confirm every single thing he says is true. And if it's speculation, he also says it is.
@TheChronboy420
@TheChronboy420 Жыл бұрын
As a pizza pro I can say with near certainty those boxes were empty. Pizzas get heavy and that many pizzas stacked on each other would cause the boxes to crush. Especially because there were no "tables" in the boxes which if you ever wondered why those little white tables are in pizza boxes it's because without them even a few pizzas stacked would begin to crush the bottom boxes
@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466
@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 Жыл бұрын
Which is a good thing if you ask me. Those most likely under paid employees don't have to make 72 pizzas and the youtuber still gets a fun little video out of it. Honestly I would hope that the pizza boxes were empty.
@solrinin
@solrinin 11 ай бұрын
I find it odd the tone difference between his Kris coming out as trans video and his TikTok's predator video he made a couple weeks later. One seemed kind of disgusted throughout all of it while the other seemed somewhat forgiving (ending with the pedator hasn't been caught recently so maybe they have changed).
@rickyricardo4331
@rickyricardo4331 Жыл бұрын
As always, Asmon. You're a prophet. When content creators shift from content to flexing, the slope begins. But, the more and more I look at Sunny's vids, as "informative" as they are, I simply don't see how off-peak numbers equal "downfall". I mean c'mon, that's like expecting a 1970's supermodel to look exactly the same in 2020 and then saying she fell off or let her body slide simply because she looks older.
@GGE415
@GGE415 6 ай бұрын
I think Sunny V2 just kind of like does what Charlie does moist Except for does a little bit more background story goes into a little bit more of the dynamic and it’s a little bit more like a KZfaq catching thumbnails and that Charlie’s like relatable as F and is describes things like an author with humor In a way, he’s like the gym can’t swim psychology for current events and who messed up on KZfaq and who’s cheating on twitch etc. who’s in the limelight for messing up basically and why
@spiderraccoon7869
@spiderraccoon7869 Жыл бұрын
The thing for me is, you can disagree with a content creator or not like their content, that’s fine. But there’s people out there that think they can change people’s perception about the content creator then get mad when they don’t. How do I know? They did that with Nickelback and they recently did it with Hogwarts Legacy. They’re both doing great and I’m sure SunnyV2 is doing great too.
@aidanh7527
@aidanh7527 11 ай бұрын
Nah I hate sunnyv2 cause he just watches other people’s videos and remakes them in his own words and people pretend like he makes good content
@johnhilton145
@johnhilton145 10 ай бұрын
Good job you just found out what research is.
@arbalest327
@arbalest327 8 ай бұрын
​@@aidanh7527that's what asmon does, critical does and etc. so you have a problem with them as well?
@IamTooLateForThis
@IamTooLateForThis Жыл бұрын
TheTekkitRealm even did a song for SunnyV2 .
@crusaddy982
@crusaddy982 Жыл бұрын
Wait people think he is faking it? Like my only issue with him is that nearly every video feels the same and just overly negative while being carried by flashy editing
@masturone8257
@masturone8257 Жыл бұрын
These people who make videos with no evidence is like someone in the center being reasonable is arguing with someone on the far right or far left and trying to explain things to people getting immediately emotional
@tylerkennedy4203
@tylerkennedy4203 Жыл бұрын
I know asmongold kind of covered this towards the end of the video but also I feel the reason negative videos generate more attention than positive ones is because if somebody has a positive view on something and they see somebody else posting a video with positive view about that subject they will just be hearing something they already know as to where if somebody has a positive or neutral view on something and they see somebody who has a negative one they are more enticed to see their perspective or hear their thoughts on the matter so of course its going to generate more views
@IRMaxi
@IRMaxi Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment on the human psyche in our monkey pursuit for information
@starshineline
@starshineline Жыл бұрын
Literally the oppsoite of how people work
@thynErro
@thynErro Жыл бұрын
Speaking of flaunting your wealth, a big part of the downfall of the artist formally known as Digibro was the fact they flaunted the money they were making from KZfaq by constantly reminding their audience of weebs of their weed habits. Fans actively told them they didn't like that, and it has never been acknowledged as one of the reasons why their KZfaq channel failed.
@SpiderMNKY
@SpiderMNKY Жыл бұрын
ive felt for a while that Sunny just takes small things and exaggerates 10fold
@IdleCommentator
@IdleCommentator Жыл бұрын
Lol, there are multiple points in the video, where Asmon says that some point made by Sunny is "100% true", and then proceeds to demonstrate in like the very next sentence that te point is maybe more like 50-60-70-80-90% true rather than "100%", i.e partially true мы completely true.
@Anbutou
@Anbutou Жыл бұрын
Man I just watched this video a bit ago on this channel
@sunteraze
@sunteraze 10 ай бұрын
There is always a "dog in the manger".
@strifewins6792
@strifewins6792 7 ай бұрын
It seemed more like he was saying it was a bad decision for the character dream not that it was a bad move for him as a real person. Yea it may be good for him on a personal level but as a business move it wasn't.
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