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Is The 2023 Toyota bZ4X The Ultimate Driving Utensil? 2023 bZ4X Full Review

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Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos

Auto Buyers Guide | Alex on Autos

Күн бұрын

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@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide Жыл бұрын
It's possible we created some merch for the Ultimate Driving Utensil... www.aoamerch.com/product-page/ze-busy-forks-is-ze-ultimate-driving-utensil
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Alex, Stick a fork in it, that joke is done. 🤣😂
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide Жыл бұрын
@@rightlanehog3151 are you sure? I have more!
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
@@AAutoBuyersGuide You wild and crazy guy!
@dansanger5340
@dansanger5340 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Most reviewers dismissed the BZ4X out of hand, but you gave it a fair shake.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
Because he’s biased Nobody in their right mind would say anything good about the bz4x. Especially everyone’s favorite Toyota hater😂
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. Жыл бұрын
While he's not necessarily wrong about viewing it as an ordinary car on the day-to-day, it is an absolute joke of an offering, especially at it's price point, lack of features, and clear lack of forethought in design with the steering wheel blocking the gauge cluster that's weirdly far away from you in pretty much every position. Wouldn't have even been competitive 5 years ago. Not much better than a Bolt on a road trip for double the price too as it doesn't realistically do that pitiful 100kw peak as seen in the testing other reviewers have done.
@StephenByersJ
@StephenByersJ Жыл бұрын
It’s going to sell well despite its lackluster on-paper comparisons, because Toyota has that magic sauce that makes it better than the sum of its parts that non-enthusiasts love.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
@@StephenByersJ well it just doesn’t work anymore. Tesla is a newer brand than Toyota yet they currently outsell the corolla which was the worlds best selling car. But now that title goes to the model y. In ca the model 3 / y outsell the Camry
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. Жыл бұрын
@@StephenByersJ Is that why it's selling poorly, getting such a bad reputation, and those that did buy it and ditching it within months?
@avdp9095
@avdp9095 Жыл бұрын
Nice car, good bev. Nothing wrong with. 450km range, good, 10 years warranty battery, excellent.
@timaustin2000
@timaustin2000 Жыл бұрын
As a car it's fine, as a BEV it's nearly 2 generations of technology behind and therefore, at the price they're selling it, awful.
@avdp9095
@avdp9095 Жыл бұрын
@@timaustin2000 nonsense. Only Tesla makes a good Bev, awful car regarding build and materials. All other manufacturers have Bev's like their Ice's, just with a big battery pack. That has nothing to do with engineering....not one Eurooean Bev comes near Wltp range, to heavy and very poor warranty. The Rz has a small battery pack, Lexus doesn't want you to fast charge to many times, kills the batteries. Because of these safety meassures they can give 15 years warranty. The only bev you can buy 2nd after a few years. Toyota will roll out their Bev's 2.0 starting from 2026, full line up will be presented by the end of 2025. Solid state plugin and latest generation batteries, affordable Bev's and less weight. We received a very detailed internal briefing from Toyota last week...... .
@hisken0503
@hisken0503 Жыл бұрын
Totally fair review. Since June, I am driving the Premium FWD model in Europe and more than happy with the qualities that it has. It is a true allrounder, for business and family use. I can definitely recommend this car.
@samatwesu
@samatwesu 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for fair review. Many outlets say it sucks. With new $119 lease pricing. I took my wife out to see it in person and she loves it.
@tonyroe1670
@tonyroe1670 21 күн бұрын
Have A Toyota. B Z 4X. Brilliant car. Look at all the rest before Buying one great Boot Space. A quick charge for over 530 kM best guaranteed Last Toyota I had for. Over 16 years brilliant car space age. Five of my Friends have bought one. We do a lot of mileage no complaints
@Erigion
@Erigion Жыл бұрын
Co-worker has one and I'm in it once or twice a week for lunch runs. It's perfectly fine as a car. There are some things I like about it more than my EV6, like the heated/ventilated seats can be controlled automatically by the climate system while in Auto mode. The brand-new Toyota/Lexus infotainment system is much better than the very long-in-the-tooth HMG software (though feature customization is pretty limited). I like the radiant leg warmers for the front row though that removes the glove box. I do hate that the instrument panel and infotainment system look like they were designed by two different teams, which they probably were. it's also got much EV-specific data as in the EV6/Ioniq 5, which is not much. He also reports efficiency almost as good as my EV6, while having a more usable cargo area and rear seat headroom and foot room. The useable battery is almost 20kwh smaller than in my car which makes the total range much smaller. Obviously, the DCFC limitations make it basically unusable as a long road trip (400+mi) car except for the most patient of people.
@Mildern
@Mildern Жыл бұрын
I owned an EV6 and then a bZ4X and now to an Ioniq 6. I agree with pretty much all of that and I think I can best sum it up by saying the bZ4X is a great car and a mediocre EV.
@avdp9095
@avdp9095 Жыл бұрын
With the recent software updates, the bz4x can fast charge 4x in 24 hours and charging is much faster as well..... . We had the software update this summer. Range improved considerably, 450km real world range. In a recent comparison test the bz4x was considered the far better choice above the ID4 and q4 etron......
@dwilliams4558
@dwilliams4558 Жыл бұрын
@@Mildernwow you’ve been able to drive my top 3 evs i’d want to own. how’d you pull off owning 3 different cars on short time span
@Mildern
@Mildern Жыл бұрын
@@dwilliams4558 Tax credits and inflated trade in values! Also some luck. Had a vehicle get totaled so I had a do-over thrown in there as well and got the Ioniq 6.
@sentryion3106
@sentryion3106 Жыл бұрын
@@Mildernwhy did you switch between the three? Especially the ev6 and i6 which are quite similar
@pcr8918
@pcr8918 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for reviewing the base model.
@BTC909
@BTC909 Жыл бұрын
Seems like Toyota should trade that panoroof for a power seat, ventilated seat, and ...
@strongbutgentle
@strongbutgentle Жыл бұрын
I have to tell you, I got myself a BZ4X (white with black trim) and it looks fantastic. I get a lot of head rolls with Tesla drivers trying to figure out what it is. With the new software update that just came out I'm getting about 40 extra miles per charge (likely transferred from the other side of the empty dash marks) but it is a psychological edge. I'm also finding that it charges a lot faster now. There is also now a percentage meter under the remaining miles display to allow you to get a better read on how many miles you have before empty. All in all, being a Toyota guy that just came from a RAV4 Prime XSE, I'm very happy.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
You’re getting a lot of head rolls from Tesla drivers because they’re laughing at you. They can’t believe how dumb of a purchase you made. 😂 They’re going “man how dumb is that person who bought a bz4x? Thank god Tesla is better than Toyota”
@ju4121
@ju4121 Жыл бұрын
​​@@naveenthemachineI like your persistent on trolling at every toyota /lexus videos 😂😂😂. Did you know Tesla lied on their range 😂😂😂
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
@@ju4121who cares? It’s still better than Toyotas. Not to mention teslas are faster and they drive better and charge faster
@Polymathes
@Polymathes Жыл бұрын
I just bought a B Z4x after weeks of considering all the options as they pertain to my needs. One overriding issue with other makes I looked at is build quality. I was not impressed with Tesla at all, especially after seeing the rear window of one fall out on the freeway for no apparent reason. A KIA I saw had a handle break off in a reviewer's hand when he attempted to fold back a rear seat. A Volkswagen all electric had side sensors that stopped functioning after driving off the lot. Dependability weighs far heavier for me than charging times and range. Over the years I've come to trust Toyota for quality and I don't think I will be disappointed with my Bz4x.
@minghiy
@minghiy Жыл бұрын
​@@naveenthemachineTesla's build quality is almost as good as a yugo. Guess you like that "feature" along with plenty of road noise and back jarring pain over potholes. Congrats 🎉
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Alex, Toyota is so far ahead of the competition in the Hybrid sphere that it makes little sense to spend this much on a beginner's effort in the BEV space.🤨 The dubious exterior and wretched interior make me wonder if Toyota contracted out bZ4X design work to the firm of Holus and Bolus. 🤔
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
Toyotas far behind as a brand. No wonder they’re doing so awful in the market. They’re becoming the next infiniti. Both of which are going the way of Kodak
@bitbat9
@bitbat9 Жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine saying toyota is becoming the next Infiniti is just delusional
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
@@bitbat9 no they are. Look at them. They’re way behind like infiniti is. The latest toyota or Lexus products don’t rank any better than infiniti. For example the nx is just as bad as the qx50 and qx55 But in rare cases infiniti ranks better than Lexus. Especially when competing qx80 vs LX or qx60 vs TX
@chibbyylol
@chibbyylol Жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine the average buyer isn’t going to car-reviewer-guy’s ranking website and seeing ‘oh Infiniti X model ranks higher then Lexus Y model, let’s to get Infiniti” And what the TX isn’t out yet, who is ranking that in anything lol
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
@@chibbyylol the tx isn’t out yet. Exactly. It’s DOA already. Lexus once again phoned it in The tx is not attractive, the interior is one of the worst in class to the point where a Hyundai palisade or kia telluride offer nicer cabins. The tech is still useless on the tx. It lacks a lot of features for its price and I know because I saw the options sheet and it’s not looking good 😁 Sure interior space is great but it’s not like the tx has a new level of interior space. If the tx say had the space of an Escalade esv sure but it doesn’t. The powertrains are especially lackluster. The tx350 uses the same turbo as a base Highlander L. 0-60 takes over 8 seconds. So you’re not going to run away from a corolla or kia rio. You’ll certainly run away from a Mitsubishi mirage but cmon we’re comparing a Lexus tx to a Mitsubishi mirage in 0-60. Quite the lowest bar if you ask me. The tx500h f sport performance (yeah right on the performance part 🙄) uses the hybrid max setup. 366hp 400lbft and it’s still not quick. 0-60 in 6.5-6.7 seconds. So no faster than a telluride palisade pilot, or base explorer 2.3 or v6 grand Cherokee. But still significantly slower than the MDX type s, gv80 twin turbo base aviator, Explorer st / platinum / king ranch etc. and the tx has more power than the MDX and more instant torque than the MDX and gv80 The tx550h+ is the most interesting confusing and typical with Lexus, extremely underwhelming. The interesting part is that it uses a 3.5L v6 and makes 400hp. The confusing part is why does the phev get the v6 and not the other tx models? Didn’t Toyota just kill the v6 in the Highlander sienna venza or even the Tacoma? The underwhelming part is the 0-60. It’ll take 7-7.5 seconds. And it’ll cost 80k. All of a sudden that Cadillac xt6 that’s already overpriced sounds like a better deal compared to the tx… Handling will be awful. It’ll drive like a rav4 XL with lipstick since it’s based off a rav4 / Camry platform. Sure it’ll ride great but so does everyone else. It’s not like Lexus sets the gold standard for ride quality. It’s not gonna ride like a maybach or Bentley or anything with an air suspension. In fact those air suspension options will ride a lot better Quietness probably average. I expect around 70-71db. So no quieter than the average midsize sedan tbh. Fuel economy - does that even matter? It’s a luxury car. You can most definitely afford the low mpg if you can afford a luxury car in the first place
@goinwitdaflow
@goinwitdaflow Жыл бұрын
I actually seen one of these a few weeks ago on the road, so there’s a least a few customers who seem to like this car… That being said I think a RAV4 Prime SE (if one can their hands on one) is a better option if you consider the MRSP between them is only a-little over $1,000 difference. Great video as always though!
@tjs114
@tjs114 Жыл бұрын
@goinwitdaflow the RAV4 Prime may only be $1000 different in MSRP, but out here in the California Central Valley, they are still going for a minimum of $5,000 over MSRP and are as rare as hen's teeth.
@mgjmiller1995
@mgjmiller1995 Жыл бұрын
​​@@tjs114I was gonna say: given the difficulty in obtaining a RAV4 Prime combined with where someone is in the country, they might be trying to move the BZ4X that are out there?
@jayczyzyk7607
@jayczyzyk7607 Жыл бұрын
It’s a non essential product 😢
@oceanNmotoWoman
@oceanNmotoWoman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the time on a model a lot of people are discounting, it’s great to get all of the information so consumers can make an informed decision
@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 Жыл бұрын
Fair video of this car finally. Kudos to ya!
@chibbyylol
@chibbyylol Жыл бұрын
Toyota's stop gap 'okay here's an EV so we don't get fined now shut up' attempt before the big guns come out once they get solid state batteries going
@chibbyylol
@chibbyylol Жыл бұрын
@@pine111 Toyota fleet of hybrids can meet regulations for a few more years while these early times of EV iron out. They’re r&d’ing as much as any other company but it isn’t worth to change and retool any factories yet Obvious to say Toyota is a very big company paying very smart people lots of money to engineer, research and plan these things out
@easternyellowjacket276
@easternyellowjacket276 Ай бұрын
This is the best and most fair review I've seen on this car. Well done!
@BRKistler
@BRKistler Жыл бұрын
Here me out. They built it for Toyota. They built a low demand vehicle that would give their production teams experience in building them without the worry that there would be so much demand that they would disappoint customers with long waits and quality issues. Similar to the Crown being released to gain production experience and customer feedback on the new hybrid max driveline.
@peterfessier9780
@peterfessier9780 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been wondering if that be the reason. It seems to be designed to not create a lot of demand. My gut tells me this is more about Toyotas lack of interest in EV’s though.
@arnegerhardsen3755
@arnegerhardsen3755 6 ай бұрын
Hello Alex, Thanks for all your honest and true car reniews. I don't know if you have the last updated model of Toyota bz4x for 2024 in your test in June 2023. Some of the updates will only come on new cars orderer for spring delivery. According to Toyota we have got the same battery-type on both the FWD and AWD models with sinificantly faster charging curve than earlier models both in summer and winter conditionjsj with max 150 Kw charging speed, and they also have significantly better efficiency and real life range on the new road tests with among others the Norwegian El-Car Assosiation which got a consumsion of 1,3 Kw per 10 km which gave a range at aprox 500 km. This road test have no highway but a is the normal road test for the El-Car Assosiation with an average speed of 80 km/h, and was driven along with a Nissan Ariya e-4orce with some higher consumsion. In Norway we can pay extra to have 11 Kw charger at home, but in the new way to calculate the el-prices, we will get a higher price for the electricity based on the highest peaks and max total electric load we will have from the charging, and if possible its therefore better economy to charge at max 6 Kw or at 3-4 Kw that normally is enough if the battery isn't completly empty. There some people don't find a reason to pay extra for 11 Kw charging even then it's now possible. The bz4x also was the best car in two winter test by El-Car24 competing with some of the other best selling electric family cars at the Norwegian market. In the second half of 2023 and in January 2024 Toyota bz4x have been among the best selling cars in Norway. Best regards from Norway
@tjs114
@tjs114 Жыл бұрын
Something I've noticed in reviews, they talk about the onboard charger speed in kWh, but don't explain about the EVSE charging speeds which are usually marketed by AMPS. So for this example, the Toyota has a 6.6kWh on board charger-- what EVSE would it max out? Breaker: 15amps, Output: 12amps, kWh: 2.8 Breaker: 20amps, Output: 16amps, kWh: 3.8 Breaker: 30amps, Output: 24amps, kWh: 5.7 Breaker: 40amps, Output: 32amps, kWh: 7.6 Breaker: 50amps, Output: 40amps, kWh: 9.6 Breaker: 60amps, Output: 48amps, kWh: 11.5 Breaker: 100amps, Output: 80amps, kWh: 19.2 So, a common 40amp circuit which is used by most EVSE installations would actually exceed the maximum draw of the Toyota. And honestly, how many people have enough overhead available in their breaker boxes to support additional 50, 60 or 100amp circuits?
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide Жыл бұрын
I made that point in the video, I rarely charge over 3kw
@zoltrix7779
@zoltrix7779 Жыл бұрын
@@AAutoBuyersGuide But when you have access to 11kW in an enviroment that offers a full charge in 3 hours while you do other things, this vehicle fails.
@Luma_29
@Luma_29 Жыл бұрын
I mean, it’s a solid car. But why would I buy this when the Ionic 5, EV6, and Model Y exist?
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide Жыл бұрын
Exactly. In a vacuum it's perfectly OK.
@hedgehogthesonic3181
@hedgehogthesonic3181 Жыл бұрын
Because Hyundai and Tesla are not know for making reliable cars. Toyota is known for that, the BZ4X is going to last more than these you mentioned.
@emoney1231
@emoney1231 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are some people who are brand loyal to Toyota. The question is, do these people want an EV?
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
@@AAutoBuyersGuideno in a vacuum it’s not okay. It’s absolutely awful. The only car worse than this is the mirage
@hedgehogthesonic3181
@hedgehogthesonic3181 Жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine The only bad thing about the BZ4X is the range.
@DeepFriarShow
@DeepFriarShow Жыл бұрын
I’ve had some hands on with a solterra and I honestly love it. It drives like a baby Rivian. ( I work for Rivian)
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 Жыл бұрын
This is why I like Toyota. They feel refined. I would never pick a Model Y. It goes well and has good tech but the ride quality is not good and it just doesn't seem to be assembled with care. I do like the Ioniq/EV6 siblings.
@dwilliams4558
@dwilliams4558 Жыл бұрын
idk why but i’d prefer a Solterra over a BZ4X although both made by toyota lol
@CapitanBluebeard
@CapitanBluebeard Жыл бұрын
I like it can’t wait to be the 3rd owner
@jonathonalsop2120
@jonathonalsop2120 Жыл бұрын
I like it and the Solterra, I like the ground clearance, AWD option and I don't care about the acceleration. But in my use case the range/charging would stop me buying it, even if it were $10k cheaper than it is.
@ArmyWestPointAV8R
@ArmyWestPointAV8R Жыл бұрын
I traded in my 2022 Lexus NX350 for a Tesla Model 3 performance. I wanted desperately to get the Lexus RZ450, but there were too many limitations for the price.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
Your Tesla is far superior to even unannounced Lexus Toyota evs we haven’t even seen yet
@benjaminsmith2287
@benjaminsmith2287 Жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine Superior in what way? There a lot of areas where Toyota is superior but of course you'd never admit to any of them.
@sprockkets
@sprockkets Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminsmith2287 Well of course Toyota gave the car real door handles, and unlike Tesla, won't have issues with the doors not opening in an emergency. But hey, don't we all want vehicles that ditch buttons, stalks and everything you've ever used because....reasons?
@phillipa2346
@phillipa2346 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the huge black fenders, to me it just looks like they didn’t finish painting the car. Personally I don’t like this new styling and I see more black plastics in other cars to
@stupid8911
@stupid8911 Жыл бұрын
“Someone’s gonna get a fork in the back”, 😂😂
@Richey24
@Richey24 Жыл бұрын
It's so odd to say, I was excited for this car but the design choices really make this one of my least favorite electric vehicles out there.
@thekat-dg9fx
@thekat-dg9fx Жыл бұрын
Former loyal Toyota customer. I had a bZ4X AWD, and traded it in for a Mustang Mach-E, because Toyota doesn't think EVs can or should road trip.
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. Жыл бұрын
Local VW dealer has so many bZ4X/Solterra's on their lot it's obvious people have been trading them in for ID.4s and the VW dealer can't seem to get rid of them.
@thekat-dg9fx
@thekat-dg9fx Жыл бұрын
@@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. I seriously considered the ID.4, but had actually ordered the Mach-E while waiting for the wheels to not fall off the bZ4X, and it came in this summer. The bZ4X will make a decent used car at the right price. The question will be how low that price will be.
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. Жыл бұрын
@@thekat-dg9fx Yeah I ended up with a Mach-E over my preference of an EV6 due to markup and loss of tax credit. It's a solid car and does have things over the EV6 like the glass roof and Ford being better at OTA updates (though not Tesla/Rivian/Lucid good yet). edit: oh and frunk! frunk has been useful a few times.
@jaybou007
@jaybou007 5 күн бұрын
Honestly, with a home charger, this is more than fine.
@Marco-ce8kr
@Marco-ce8kr Жыл бұрын
Everybody....EVERYbody is complaining about this car efficiency, software and charging curve...tons of videos prove it... 3.3 miles/kwh ~ 303 wh/mile is high average
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide Жыл бұрын
Efficiency is not the issue, charging speeds are. I am not saying that the charging speed is good, I simply point out that other EVs are also slow LOL
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
Except Hyundai Kia who charge significantly faster
@bitbat9
@bitbat9 Жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine yeah that's if your charging point isn't faulty
@ronkemperful
@ronkemperful Жыл бұрын
A few critical issues: 1) no frunk, no glove box. 2) a very distant front display that is more suitable for a short person than a normal human in size. 3) an overly convoluted HVAC - thermal management system that is less efficient and a mechanical nightmare, 4) a style over function rear storage with an overly slanted rear window limiting usefulness of hatch design, 5) spartan software features such as navigation to fast charging and trip planning, and limited information concerning efficiency, 6) artificial limits imposed to supposedly protect the battery’s lifespan such as TWO fast charges per day (although Toyota supposedly will up that to 4 … how generous) and 6) No over the air updates? Yes, the base price for a 2 wheel drive is somewhat competitive BUT at what compromise? I’m keeping my ICE car for a very long time, for value propositions for EVs have yet to materialize- the EV offering from Toyota is a putrid mess.
@cruiser4653
@cruiser4653 Жыл бұрын
Questionable exterior/interior styling with subpar range and a goofy name.
@413ks
@413ks Жыл бұрын
The steering column design reminds me of a xenomorph skull from Aliens
@RoxUnlimited
@RoxUnlimited Жыл бұрын
I’m starting to do a lot more along with solterras surprisingly
@shaesham
@shaesham Жыл бұрын
Holy moly ioniq 5 is crushing it
@ltkwok
@ltkwok Жыл бұрын
Got a Genesis GV60. When Lexus get’s it’s EV act together, going to trade the Genesis for the Lexus.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
Lexus getting their act together is as likely as Alex’s dodge Durango SRT will last over 300k miles with no issues 😂 both of which we all know will never happen
@alwaysawn9110
@alwaysawn9110 Жыл бұрын
whenI look at the front it reminds me of a taller prius with the hammerhead headlights and the grill opening at the bottom and the way the hood comes to a sharp edge just above the bumper.
@davids1816
@davids1816 Жыл бұрын
I think the design of the Toyota is fine (the wheels are a bit of a buzz kill but whatever). The problem is, with the tax credit it really is up against a Model Y long range. That car has 330 miles of range, access to reliable chargers, and is very quick and fun to drive. On the lower end, 35k gets you about the same seating space and a smaller trunk with the Bolt EUV. It's also FWD and has the same range but gets the tax incentive and a free electrical hookup and most every option you could want (heated seats, wheel, cooled seats, leather, etc.)
@minghiy
@minghiy Жыл бұрын
330 is definitely not achievable on a model y with a full charge. You will be lucky to get 300 max.
@sprockkets
@sprockkets Жыл бұрын
@@minghiy More like 270 ish on the hwy too. And you'll also look like a total dork in one.
@jptrico
@jptrico Жыл бұрын
I feel like Toyota got some kind of huge discount on that gray hard plastic. it makes an appearance in so many of their new models and in excess in each of them. It makes their interiors look extremely cheap.
@omarastacio3939
@omarastacio3939 Жыл бұрын
As a daily driver of a BX4X, I don't believe this is a great vehicle for anyone who has longer daily commutes. I am driving an AWD limited trim so the 220 ish range is what is claimed. Reason I am saying claimed is that with climate control on, this drops down to roughly 185 miles on a 100% charge. Add that most EV's recommend that you only charge to 80% this brings the range down even more. The fact that it tells you that your range is down is actually good. All EV's get reduction with Climate control on and Toyota at least is up front with the prediction. The fact that the car does not tell you the charge percentage is annoying to me. I have to guess based on the Electric gauge similar to fuel counterparts. The comfort is actually pretty good and several people have given me compliments on the looks of the car. But that is subjective so everyone's taste can vary. I am curious how much better/worse it will be in the winter with heating. I have a 50 mile one way commute and have no issue today getting to and from work, but days that I have to go someplace else has brought me concern. And the slow Level 2 charging is real. I have not experienced DC Fast charging yet. OTA update is hit or miss. I have a notification to bring my car in to dealer for on OTA update. Why?
@john1701a
@john1701a Жыл бұрын
As an owner with the update who has already experienced winter, it's easy to see your unnecessary worry.
@rtm808
@rtm808 Жыл бұрын
I agree; realistically it's a first generation EV from Toyota. Nothing more, nothing less. Is it going to sway the average RAV4 buyer? Probably not. But I don't think any EV is there yet.
@qui11
@qui11 10 ай бұрын
It's not first gen. Toyota made a RAV4 electric over 10 years ago.
@LetMeCook86
@LetMeCook86 Жыл бұрын
This for people who don’t understand EV charging speeds, range and why wheels fall off vehicles for no apparent reason.
@jeffmercier7252
@jeffmercier7252 Жыл бұрын
No back wiper like the iconic 5 it's a miss in my books
@neil454
@neil454 Жыл бұрын
Alex, one thing you didn't mention is the DC fast charge throttling when you fast charge multiple times in a day, like when you're on a road trip. Check out Bjorn Nyland's 1000 km challenge videos on this. This is honestly a fatal flaw in my book that makes this car probably the worst EV to road trip, outside of maybe the Bolt.
@arilenadorsman1429
@arilenadorsman1429 Жыл бұрын
That has been solved
@Rampage1979
@Rampage1979 9 ай бұрын
You can fast charge 4 times now and it charges faster with the latest update
@cachegrk
@cachegrk Жыл бұрын
Toyota should focus on producing more Grandhighlanders rathers let dealers charge 15K markups
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
No grand highlander is no better. It too is a universally mediocre option over the telluride palisade pilot cx90 grand Cherokee L or even the new Traverse
@cmarshall4559
@cmarshall4559 Жыл бұрын
I went to buy one but as soon as i got behind the wheel the dash wheel placement was a deal breaker.
@mgjmiller1995
@mgjmiller1995 Жыл бұрын
I like the front on the new Prius. If the front wheel cladding was off this, it'd be a drastic improvement
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 Жыл бұрын
Busy F**ks! I thought Alex was an engineer. Turns out, he is a marketing genius too!
@1cerebrum
@1cerebrum 11 ай бұрын
What a good review, thanks!
@fighter835
@fighter835 Жыл бұрын
More comfortable than the competition? Stop right there, that's all I need to know. In daily traffic, ground clearance and comfort are supremely important, and this car has it. I would pick this over the competition based on that fact alone. I just want a reliable, comfortable, easy to live with car.
@jasonhillgiant
@jasonhillgiant Жыл бұрын
Not a big fan of the grey/black fenders. Making them shiny plastic doesn’t really help.
@dfberry
@dfberry Жыл бұрын
Forks are pretty busy at All You Can Eat buffetts! 🤣
@mr88cet
@mr88cet 11 ай бұрын
“Whom,” actually. 😂 Thanks for the perspective, Alex! I’m a Prius Prime driver, but if the BZ4x is the best EV Toyota can make, then I will definitely have to switch my brand loyalties on our next car purchase.
@124thDragoon
@124thDragoon Жыл бұрын
the way the colored panels on the headlights don't exactly integrate cleanly into the hood bothers me so much. That's the sort of gap that you see on poorly repaired hoods/trunks.
@Gerry_Dorsey_
@Gerry_Dorsey_ Жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha. Good to see you're a fan of Maintenance Phase
@joec1774
@joec1774 Жыл бұрын
Though not a home run, I don't think this is the wide miss that many media pundits suggest. Still, IMO, it's too "soft" of an effort to be a great contender especially re: charging times, and I'd not have it on my EV list.
@hadtobe4502
@hadtobe4502 Жыл бұрын
Toyota is historically 3+ years behind the tech leaders due to them waiting to see what works and what doesn't before implementing the changes. However, this paint job is right out of the playschool box. Still scratching my head.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
But this is 2023. Every brand has become more reliable than ever. Look at Alex’s Durango SRT. He bought it new yet it hasn’t broken yet even though everyone jokes on fiat reliability
@joetacchino4470
@joetacchino4470 Жыл бұрын
The only vehicle that looks better with a front plate. Looks like it was styled inside and out by like 52 different people who didn’t like each other. Too bad, this looks like a decent offering…mostly. Shame about the Level 2 charge level.
@bopinthewap
@bopinthewap 5 ай бұрын
Alex I wonder if you would still give the bZ4x ride/ride quality an A plus after driving the Limited with the 20" wheels 🤔
@z1az285
@z1az285 8 ай бұрын
i drove the Solterra as a loaner and right off bat i was impressed by how well built, quiet and refined the drive was., however i found out later the cost of yhe battery was $45000 (us). it is all or nothing. that defeats the purpose of owning the car long term. makes zero sense., as good as the car drives
@BowlerActuary
@BowlerActuary Жыл бұрын
I like the Versa being on the size spectrum
@calbob750
@calbob750 Жыл бұрын
Stylists at Toyota ran out of ideas on front end headlights, grill and bumper. The EV gives an opportunity for a new direction. Lexus went first with the “spindle” grill.
@handofkindness
@handofkindness Ай бұрын
The Bz4x is well built but the Bz4x (the 'buzz' car) is let down by the AWD charge up & range, also the Toyota C-HR (the 'chancer' car) is also well built but rear seat passengers are bit cramped so this leaves that RAV4 prime awd (the 'rave' car) which has good value and built well it also has dual type fuel/power so my money is on the 'rave' car which has great distance range & of course brilliant reliability & warranty.
@MegaRetr
@MegaRetr Жыл бұрын
Questionable exterior/interior styling
@MarioDallaRiva
@MarioDallaRiva Жыл бұрын
Alex, a Murder fork utensil vs chef’s knife would have been more appropriate, no?!? 😅
@davidmccarthy6061
@davidmccarthy6061 Жыл бұрын
It was just an attempt for Toyota/Subaru to get something out there to keep the brand loyalists from straying while they struggle to catch up. Still a coin flip if they will succeed. But they'll keep trickling out their "coming soon" stuff like future models and batteries to lead people on. A lot of people will look at other brands, and buy them, and all companies/industries know that once you lose a core customer and they're happy enough with the competition, then they probably won't be coming back.
@Halman2112
@Halman2112 6 ай бұрын
I’d buy it in a heartbeat if it was available in Alberta.
@wonderwhat4
@wonderwhat4 Жыл бұрын
It's ugly. Especially the interior dash. Didn't even want to finish the video once I saw that. Now I know why my local toyota dealer had a used one for sale with less than 1000 miles on it. You should have done better Toyota!
@miraphycs7377
@miraphycs7377 Жыл бұрын
bz4x outsold most other EVs other than Tesla in BEV haven of Norway bz4x outsold EV6 and Ioniq 6 in Canada
@Tokamak3.1415
@Tokamak3.1415 Жыл бұрын
You've copy/pasted this lie at least 1/2 dozen times. Inside EVs clearly shows BZ4X as #4, behind ID.4 and XC40 for 2023. Don't even bother looking at 2022 because of the recall.
@Superfastjellyfish669
@Superfastjellyfish669 Жыл бұрын
I would take that power train give it more power and put it under the RAV4
@cpwellard
@cpwellard Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Alex. Always love your videos. My two cents: Bad launch with reliability. Way overpriced. Cheap, hard plastic interior. Poor range. Ugly. Model 3 is way better on all metrics.
@bitbat9
@bitbat9 Жыл бұрын
Which name is worse: Honda e:Ny1 or Toyota bZ4X?
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
The bz4x is worse because it’s on an uncompetitive Toyota
@bitbat9
@bitbat9 Жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine and the honda is competitive?
@expansivegymnast1020
@expansivegymnast1020 Жыл бұрын
It just cost way too much. For the same price I can get a new Tesla Model 3 or a Hyundai Ioniq 5. So why would I get this?
@mikecalderon7992
@mikecalderon7992 Жыл бұрын
Alex, I wanna know where you got the charge plug shirt you were wearing!
@yazars
@yazars Жыл бұрын
I really want Toyota to come out with some good EV models, because I trust that they will tend to over engineer things for reliability, and some people want better build quality than Teslas or to avoid the company out of principle. I'm glad they didn't go with low profile tires, which are a bothersome trend overall. Beyond the VW Buzz, does anybody know when there may be more EV minivans in the US?
@pbentsonable
@pbentsonable Жыл бұрын
Only problems I see is the steering wheel blocking the instrument panel, the weird cladding especially up front, no rear wiper, no opening sunroof and no glovebox. But a good refresh could make these changes possible. Toyota hasn’t been on the ball lately leaving room for the competition to move in on them.
@zoltrix7779
@zoltrix7779 Жыл бұрын
No frunk, no sub frunk, pathetic AC charger, slow DC fast charging front wheel drive in 2WD form. Seriously, it's nothing more than mediocre.
@pbentsonable
@pbentsonable Жыл бұрын
@@zoltrix7779 like I said they have really dropped the ball lately. Good thing the competition is getting better and better.
@Inobscurity-n7j
@Inobscurity-n7j Жыл бұрын
We need to do something to help the planet. Strip mining for precious metals and other materials needed for EV production, probably was not the best way to go about it. In fact it's misguided at best. I feel it's more about power and control. Not to mention I never knew a Democrat that did not like spending your money.
@sprockkets
@sprockkets Жыл бұрын
Are EVs better for combating CO2? Yes. Are they actually the real solution to the climate crisis? No. Do democrats actually care? No, because they are a center right wing party. The only political party that would care about solving that issue are socialists.
@stevemartegani
@stevemartegani Жыл бұрын
I can't get over Busy Forks LOL
@dennisdenise1
@dennisdenise1 Жыл бұрын
Toyota fan boy here. I like the look, but the interior, ughhhh. No choice of regen, ughhh. This looks really like a appliance. Which is fine. But I’d shop around.
@jamestran328
@jamestran328 3 ай бұрын
The thermo management is not well design. Affecting the claimed range.
@LJLion
@LJLion Жыл бұрын
Tax credit makes BZ4X not competitive. That's why tons of these evs are seating on Dealer lots.
@wzDH106
@wzDH106 Жыл бұрын
Way too much clutter in that interior, and looks miserable to detail.
@giantbush4258
@giantbush4258 2 ай бұрын
Alex need upgrade them jeans at get right size pair.😮
@philsalley3278
@philsalley3278 Жыл бұрын
EV6 is $399/mo on lease now.
@smileymac8017
@smileymac8017 Жыл бұрын
Busy fork sounds like a way to describe an overweight person.😄
@EzekielElin
@EzekielElin Жыл бұрын
The Solterra does have regen paddles, does the bz4x have it on higher trims?
@samctm
@samctm Жыл бұрын
It's as if Toyota wanted you to drive around in a 4wheeled advertising billboard with the awful 2 toned color scheme. It's unnecessarily polarizing. The interior Designers also need a firm smack on the back of their heads for that stupid driver front dash.
@188ahmed188
@188ahmed188 6 ай бұрын
Does Anyone knows that uk model BZ4X comes with Radiant leg warmer ?
@fayehall7483
@fayehall7483 Жыл бұрын
Perfect for newly open minded elders whom still in there sim-luxry import saloons... The key is for us to give it to them with a pleasant minimum tech update...love will help those before us to enjoy now for another decade or more.. less backing in to a fire hydrant front of there garage...down there.... aye,.
@patrick7228
@patrick7228 Жыл бұрын
Alex could you provide the link on the inside ev charge testing? I've never ever heard of anyone getting 10-80 in 34 minutes.
@bigcraig4u
@bigcraig4u Жыл бұрын
The FWD and All Europe and Overseas Models Charge Faster only The North America AWD Suck
@patrick7228
@patrick7228 Жыл бұрын
@@bigcraig4u Ahh. Got it. Tx
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.
@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys. Жыл бұрын
Yeah uh, inside EVs tested as being much worse than that lol.
@alexking9172
@alexking9172 Жыл бұрын
I tend to think that this car and it’s Lexus cousin are simply Toyota’s ‘compliance’ vehicles. If it were not for them Toyota would get fined for not selling battery electric vehicles.
@McFlysGarage
@McFlysGarage 2 ай бұрын
We have a 1st gen Leaf. Weird is ok by us
@arhamkhakwani5851
@arhamkhakwani5851 Жыл бұрын
Here before the damned Naveen is here, though I’d probably agree with his opinion about the Buzy forks
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
Lol damn right. Even you now acknowledge how right my harsh Toyota criticism is. Because you’ve said otherwise lately but you now agree Took you that long to acknowledge that I am right to criticize Toyota even though I own one?
@arhamkhakwani5851
@arhamkhakwani5851 Жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachine i only agree with you about the BZ4X so don’t get yourself excited
@arhamkhakwani5851
@arhamkhakwani5851 Жыл бұрын
@@naveenthemachinecriticize is a weak word. You quite frankly hate Toyota. I find it ironic you haven’t decided to sell your Camry for a Sonata, or even a Genesis or sone other brand that isn’t Toyota/Lexus.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
@@arhamkhakwani5851 the Camry is the only Toyota so far that’s exceeded expectations I was expecting it to look sort of like the 2017 model. But when I first saw it I screamed. I was floored by the XSE especially with the black roof. When I sat inside one I was blown away by the red interior. When I finally drove one I was really impressed. It handled way better than I expected. I never thought a Camry can be fun around curves. It put a smile on my face. And the features were way better than I thought. And the 3.5L v6 was and still is silky smooth and on the highway it’s shockingly quiet. Before buying in 2019 I was prepared to give up some features that weren’t on the Camry at the time like CarPlay android auto cooled seats etc But the 19 model came and it had CarPlay. When the 2020 came out it was surprised to not only find android auto but also cooled seats So no i didn’t have to give up features since 2020 had it all.
@jonniesantos
@jonniesantos Жыл бұрын
Busy forks! 😂
@hollypark2752
@hollypark2752 Жыл бұрын
It's ok alex, we know you cannot say too many negatives about the bz4x. we know you dont want to be banned by the automakers. but for the rest of us out there. the bz4x is a letdown for a toyota. no one is expecting toyota to sell a model y. no one expects toyota to be fun. most of us expect toyota to be super efficient, super reliable and no frills styling. Is it the most efficient, even in fwd, there are tons of cars/suvs that are more efficient. Is it reliable? dont know yet, but there are wheel and software issues. Style? more polarizing than utilitarian. As a generic toyota, it doesnt do the generic toyota things very well. This is a compliance car and we all know it. It's not good at any of the toyota things cuz, well toyota doesnt want to sell these things. im not even talking about the range, or charging etc. Things that makes an EV good. those are mediocre too. Mediocre EV and a mediocre toyota. Thats my hot take.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
I’ve been more negative on Toyotas too lately. Everyone even Alex calls me the internets biggest Toyota hater😂 I’ve been told I’m more harsh on Toyota than sofyan bey
@miraphycs7377
@miraphycs7377 Жыл бұрын
bz4x outsold most other EVs other than Tesla in BEV haven of Norway bz4x outsold EV6 and Ioniq 6 in Canada
@RoneyThomas
@RoneyThomas Жыл бұрын
If you are talking about efficiency, combined hgwy+city in SUV category. Only Tesla Model Y(AWD, Long Range AWD, RWD) gets more Le/km. If you are looking at whole bev category then only Lucid air touring and pure, Ioniq 6, Model Y and 3 are the only one more efficient than this, bz4x matches Model S, EV6, Bolt EV and EUV. It still more efficient than ID4, Ioniq 5, Model X, Mach E and everything from BMW and Audi.
@thekat-dg9fx
@thekat-dg9fx Жыл бұрын
As a former loyal Toyota customer, who had a bZ4X (North American AWD version, with the crappy slower batteries) for 8 months, yes, this bZ4X is a compliance car, or the North American AWD version is. It takes an hour or longer to fast charge to 80%. It restricts how many times the car can be fast charged per 24 hours (though last week, they finally announced the dealer installed update to fix what they insisted to me was nothing wrong, upping the cap from 2 cycles from 10-80% to 3.8 cycles). I have never personally seen it fast charge faster than 65 kW despite the claimed peak of 100 kW, and youtubers reviewing the car have only seen it hit 83 kW peaks, while most competition can at least hit their peak for a few minutes, if not sustain it. It's less efficient, has a smaller range, and charges more slowly than all of its competition. It is comfortable, quiet, and an easy transition from ICE to EV, but it really would only be a decent car for people who only intend to use it for shorter range drives and charge at home. However, most of the competition also would be great for that use, plus have the flexibility to drive further in a pinch.
@Tokamak3.1415
@Tokamak3.1415 Жыл бұрын
@@RoneyThomas Efficiency is metric that you're using loosely. Sure a small single motor speedboat uses less fuel than a 12K TEU transport ship per mile traveled but the transport ship is much more efficient per unit moved. Considering the amount of space in a BZ4X is smaller than most of the vehicles you mentioned it has a disappointing efficiency for a 2023 vehicle. Effectively you're carrying around extra weight of batteries than will never see full utilization in the hopes that the car will have longer range in a decade. In a decade you can retrofit the batteries for 1/2 the price of the current batteries and most likely get 50% more range. Having 400+ mile range on vehicles that people never drive more than 50 miles a day is wasteful. Carrying 20% reserve for something a decade down the line is absurd. It has neither performance, nor charge speed, nor efficiency.
@garrettglass8854
@garrettglass8854 Жыл бұрын
I think it looks great. Just hate electric cars because they come with inbuilt waste. Mining for those minerals takes a lot of gasoline and diesel. People are buying their own mouse trap when they buy these things. There is no reason electric cars have to be connected to home base but to enable the government to shut you down. The goal behind EVs is not to save the world but to subdue it. If EVs were "dumb" without connectivity and the fun was all about the electric torque, if they worked more like power wheelchairs I wouldn't distrust them as much as I do. All of this is my humble opinion. Obviously I can't confirm any conspiracies so I'm not actually spreading them just saying what i think.
@sprockkets
@sprockkets Жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert, every new car is "connected" and while yes, you have to mine for stuff to build them with, you also have to drill for oil to fuel a gas car. There is no such thing as a free lunch. And if you really care about phoning home to the gov, just disable the cellular radio on it....
@AeroDude73
@AeroDude73 Жыл бұрын
4:11 - “… a very expeneive (?) VW!” -- 🤔 😉
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide Жыл бұрын
We put an on-screen note there 😅
@Pekirt79
@Pekirt79 Жыл бұрын
The Japanese are in trouble!!! Ouch!
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine Жыл бұрын
It’s no surprise. The big question is why do the Japanese still exist
@lol-ge9bh
@lol-ge9bh 3 ай бұрын
U know there are other Japanese brands not just toyota
@LearningFast
@LearningFast Жыл бұрын
I disagree. There is no evidence that this vehicle is actually any more reliable than any other car. They say that the battery pack is limited for range to prevent degradation. However, I haven’t seen any evidence that it actually prevents that. Also, the range is so limited that even a degraded Tesla is still better. The only goal Toyota had with this vehicle was to make full EVs look inferior to Hybrids. Toyota has convinced me that THEY can’t or won’t make an EV that is better than their Hybrids.
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