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Is the Canon Xf605 a Cinema Camera Killer?

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Tinker Town

Tinker Town

Күн бұрын

Not a Review not a Tutorial but a Longform Overview with Raw Footage and Menu Asmr
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0:00 Intro
3:19 Overview
12:20 Codecs
27:00 Stabilization
39:26 Thoughts
41:35 Footage
58:05 Menus

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@visibilityunlimitedmedia
@visibilityunlimitedmedia 7 ай бұрын
Just ordered a 605. Your video is easily the best 605 review on YT. It convinced me to go with the 605 and it’s a great resource for learning the camera. Thanks for doing such a detailed and well presented review!
@MartijnSmits-fs8et
@MartijnSmits-fs8et 5 ай бұрын
Whu not panasonic Hc-X2?
@samueldickes
@samueldickes 10 ай бұрын
Outstanding presentation of the XF605, second to none I was able to find on KZfaq! Wow 🤩
@JebKicker
@JebKicker 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible review and exactly what I needed - thanks! Also "final lets hope" killed me
@robertellenwood
@robertellenwood 2 жыл бұрын
Great job with your Deep Dive on the 605, can’t wait to change a few settings on mine in the morning, thx for the tip!
@b.mccarthy5288
@b.mccarthy5288 2 жыл бұрын
Super good demonstration of the XF605... you and the camera have convinced me... now all I need is the cash. Thanks for the great review, I'm an old time camcorder user and believer. Your review of the XF605 points the way to the return of the popularity of the camcorder.
@DanielSRosehill
@DanielSRosehill 2 жыл бұрын
This is an oddly wholesome way of presenting technical content. And thanks for the history lesson. I lament the move away from camcorders and its good to know how we got to this odd point. This camera is a bit past my budget but your footage looks great!
@bobuk5722
@bobuk5722 2 жыл бұрын
Hi again. I've come back to this expansive video a number of times. Like you I'm torn between ease of use and the big sensor effect. Your video has been very helpful and I'm now close to getting the XF605. Thank you for all the trouble taken in making this video essay.
@faizanhaqqee2665
@faizanhaqqee2665 4 ай бұрын
Don't get it. It produces a very soft, fuzzy image. No colour saturation or depth whatsoever. And you'll miss the good image one gets out of a DSLR or better camera
@paulszilard1685
@paulszilard1685 Жыл бұрын
Love your video. Others had been more eloquent in expressing this, but I appreciate your approach. I have had the XF605 for a few months, to complement my mirrorless Fujifilm X-H2S. I love the run and gun capabilities of the 605 and using the buttons without the need to dive into menus all the time.
@das_tattooatelier_freistadt
@das_tattooatelier_freistadt 7 ай бұрын
Das ist jammern auf hohem Niveau. Dank an den Ersteller für das Teilen der Infos und Erkenntnisse, frohe Weihnachten aus good old Austria! 🙌👍
@kamuelalee
@kamuelalee Жыл бұрын
Your cabin is not only spooky but well equipped with Canon tech. Quite lovely.
@visibilityunlimitedmedia
@visibilityunlimitedmedia 11 ай бұрын
Great review of the XF605 , its menus and functionality!
@scottievee7467
@scottievee7467 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about grabbing one of these to compliment my Canon C70's. I ended up getting an R5c. Whatever Canon... I'm in. I normally use Large area focus but I saw you switch to small. I just gave that a shot. Might be my new new. Thanks. Makes sense.
@enregistreur
@enregistreur 2 жыл бұрын
#21 😎 Great review ! Thanks for detailing it so much !
@Paddy_Mac
@Paddy_Mac Жыл бұрын
4k with professional codecs and user interface along with XLR inputs, smallish form factor , stability and manual buttons. Yes please! A great video and it helped me press the button to 'replace' my Canon C100MII and compliment my EOSR.
@Paddy_Mac
@Paddy_Mac 10 ай бұрын
@tailgatetinkerer7710 the 'look' for interviews is not as nice, not as cinematic, but the 4K is just so much better to work with along with 10bit 4:22 and internal stabilisation. Frankly, I am very very happy with the 605 and it helps me get much better shots than I ever achieved with the Mark two.
@paolo.kernahan
@paolo.kernahan 2 жыл бұрын
A camera doesn't have to be a 'killer' of another camera. Different cameras suit different needs and budgets.
@josephsmith3352
@josephsmith3352 2 жыл бұрын
great info!
@davekihara3160
@davekihara3160 2 жыл бұрын
Great content..
@fares_of_arabia
@fares_of_arabia Жыл бұрын
Only one video, but it is really good stuff. Keep it up.
@Lvillemartinishot
@Lvillemartinishot 6 ай бұрын
Excellent job! Where are you filming (state)?
@bobuk5722
@bobuk5722 2 жыл бұрын
The M1 chipset and its successors is good at editing H265, but you may find colour grading another matter as the GPUs were not originally as powerful - that will change very quickly of course, and I may already be out of date with tis comment, but do check if possible. H265 may have a much bigger 'look ahead' than H265 - up to hundreds of frames instead of the H264 group of typically 12 frames and it is this which may slow processing down.
@Yavor54
@Yavor54 2 жыл бұрын
I SO want to like and buy this camera. In the end, the blocky Canon noise in low-light is a kill-shot for me. The Sony PXW-Z-150 just puts this video to shame. Good luck Canon.
@oliversimcik3618
@oliversimcik3618 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for this review, I would like to ask how the manual focus works on the xf605 camera, I own a canon xc10, and on this one it is quite a problem to use manual focus. I was wondering how to manually focus with the xf605 when the camera is on a tripod, wide angle (25.5mm), and from 50cm to infinity. And secondly it's set at (382.5mm), from 1m to infinity. On my canon xc10 camera, specifically for long glass, I have to crank up the wrist to re-focus from 1 meter to infinity. and at the same time the focusing is variable and not linear, so depending on how fast I turn the focusing ring, it focuses faster and slower and it is unpredictable, and I'm not very excited about it.
@ebinrock
@ebinrock 2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you had a chance to compare this to the JVC G-HC500 with SSD (in the Media Adapter)? The JVC, at least on paper, seems to edge out on specs - 20x optical zoom and the ability to record in-camera 10-bit 4:2:2 Apple ProRes (not just H.264/H.265) - at least to the SSD, which is the compact M.2 variety, so it's not like this bulky think hanging on the side.
@anonymissed3611
@anonymissed3611 8 ай бұрын
Thoughts on the digital tele modes?
@BigOvlogger
@BigOvlogger Жыл бұрын
I have the Canon XA50. I love it.
@63rml
@63rml 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you end up purchasing the camera , I would love to see more of your videos! Mike
@howardwilson5625
@howardwilson5625 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for thus video I was go I get kB go with the Sony z90 but after seeing this I've decided to push the boat out and buy this ive already got a canon 70d which im going or upgrade to a canin90d
@camerondiprose1722
@camerondiprose1722 Жыл бұрын
I was also set to purchase a Sony PXW Z90 but then changed to the PXW Z190 but I was afraid of the 3x 1/3 sensor over the 1” sensor in the Z90 and now this cf605? It’s so difficult with such little experience to pick what will suit the best. Howard how did you go with your purchase, are you happy with the Canon cf605. I’d love to hear before I purchase this week. Cheers
@svetlanadomolky1586
@svetlanadomolky1586 8 ай бұрын
I have an XF-605 but I'm not very happy with it. Stabilization is poor and autofocus is random. The use of a tripod is imperative and I often have to settle for manual focus. It's a good machine for the studio, but not for use in the wild.
@simoncejas
@simoncejas Жыл бұрын
Did you try the c70 with the mount adapter Ef- Eos R .71x?
@lothargudat7329
@lothargudat7329 2 жыл бұрын
Great summary, well done 👍. What kind of SD cards did you used, tested?
@TinkerTown.
@TinkerTown. 2 жыл бұрын
the two at 11:50
@berylhemmings7003
@berylhemmings7003 2 жыл бұрын
Mic muffs can be permanet wid strong fomes not roten in a shart time
@satyanarayandebbarma2089
@satyanarayandebbarma2089 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sir, can you please tell me if it's any better then penasonic HC x2 camcorder that was recently launched by Penasonic few weeks ago.
@Military872
@Military872 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video very soothing to listen to you. would you recommend this Camera to shoot fast moving aircraft?
@TinkerTown.
@TinkerTown. Жыл бұрын
I would say yes to that. There are other more cinema based cameras out that will give you a better end image. But if a spitfire come in low out of no where the xf605 is quick to draw and shoot
@francescovecchione6496
@francescovecchione6496 2 жыл бұрын
mi consigliano, assolutamente, di girare un film con le fotocamere usando il profilo LOG per poi fare la color grading per ottenere un look cinematografico. Detto questo, vorrei sapere, possibilmente, se la videocamera CANON XF605 mi permette di girare in log e ottenere gli stessi risultati della fotocamera dsrl. Spero che qualcuno mi possa chiarire in merito. Grazie anticipatamente. Francesco
@basketballmaven1454
@basketballmaven1454 Жыл бұрын
is this camcorder betterer than my canon vixia HFM500?
@ianchappytube
@ianchappytube 2 жыл бұрын
Well done on a comprehensive look at this camcorder! You should try more with your easy listening 'radio' voice😁it's cool! I own three XF300's and am considering upgrading to xf605s. How colour accurate did you find the LCD? and the viewfinder? Certainly compared to how the image looked when placed on an accurate monitor? Did you shoot at the highest 600mps? How was this when editing, if you tried? I know you said with the Macbook it played back fine, but was that at the highest bitrate? Did you try much out of focus foreground type shots?. Thanks for any reply✌
@TinkerTown.
@TinkerTown. 2 жыл бұрын
Will do! The lcd is color accurate with the viewfinder having a slightly different tone though this is just going off my eye. i believe 600mbs is a 705 only situation. but the timeline i had had the 410mbs all intra codec sprinkled within it and it made no difference. As for depth of field there isnt much on the wide end of the lens but with the close focus capabilities of the lens zoomed in a bit your able to blur out the background real good with your foreground close and your background far. its really noticeable compared to smaller sensor camcorders. 2.8f lens x3 for the wide end of the lens makes it 8.4f full frame
@ianchappytube
@ianchappytube 2 жыл бұрын
@@TinkerTown.
@DuffTV
@DuffTV 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, I still own and use my XF305's but now how a 705 and 605. The 605 is by far the best of the lot overall. Go get one
@TheFandangovideoguy
@TheFandangovideoguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuffTV any chance I could watch a video shot with your XF605? even in low light? thanks
@martinduffy3229
@martinduffy3229 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFandangovideoguy Hi Eric. the only real world footage I have of the 605 shot in darker scenes is some sport under finish light. The camera is great for a camcorder in low light but don’t expect the same results as a c200
@paulmatulavich7321
@paulmatulavich7321 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the time and work you put into this - the best coverage so far on YT. But where is the crisp, razor- sharp 4K images we see with Sony cameras? Just not convinced that the xf605 is true 4K.
@TinkerTown.
@TinkerTown. 2 жыл бұрын
For whatever reason youtube hasn't bumped this video to 4k yet so one could expect it to be a bit sharper in smaller uploads at 48:30 we have a x trans 4 sensor mixed in and you can see the quality loss being thats pretty much an xt4.plus i filmed a lot of this video in c log 3 and outputed it in its raw form which has no sharpening in camera or post. All that being said the 12mp sensor on this camera is definitely not going to be a sharp as a a7iv but for me the dynamic range was most important. not all 4k is created the same
@paulmatulavich7321
@paulmatulavich7321 2 жыл бұрын
@@TinkerTown. Thank you. That all makes sense!
@TheFandangovideoguy
@TheFandangovideoguy 2 жыл бұрын
i too want to see crisp 4k coming out of this camera before making a decision...I know that youtube downgrades video quality but I see a lot of other videos from other manufacturers looking better. I have a couple of XF300 cameras and I want to upgrade...this video stayed at 1080p. Never made it to 4k- did you upload it in 4k? Thanks again
@TinkerTown.
@TinkerTown. 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFandangovideoguy yea it was uploaded in 4k maybe just to big of a file. this mans video is a good depiction of what it can do with little compression and some low light kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9ycqK2qzsuUYok.html its probably the best camcorder that has ever been made. but still pretty far off from higher end cinema or mirrorless but you get a lens that does not exist in that world.
@TheFandangovideoguy
@TheFandangovideoguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@TinkerTown. thanks for the link...hand held and no extra light don't help this camera...! I guess you must know something about the pic quality to feel that it could be the best camcorder ever made! I want to believe the same...II'm not expecting cinema camera quality (my C100 mk2 is great!) but good sharp (not oversharpened!) images and decent low light without going as high as 15db gain...thanks so much for sharing! I'll wait a bit!
@WunKoolKat
@WunKoolKat 2 жыл бұрын
What you said : 16:13 nearly 1TB What I heard: one point twenty-one gigawatts!!! The SD Card I need: Plutonium
@camerondiprose1722
@camerondiprose1722 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your awesome video. I’m looking at purchasing the 605 to film Aussie Rules. It’s played on massive fields 185 meters x 135 meters roughly, one remarkable detail to our game is that there’s no standard field size, they can be anything. I would love to get your opinion on its suitability for recording games. One last question is it possible to record directly to a SSD and then simply plug the SSD into my new MacBook (that I need to also purchase) 😬 Thanks
@TinkerTown.
@TinkerTown. Жыл бұрын
hmm as far as the ssd i cant say for sure maybe a way through sdi out. It seems like the camera has been a go to for a lot of field sports because of the lens. however i would say a gh6 with a long lens might also do both the things your requiring.
@berylhemmings7003
@berylhemmings7003 2 жыл бұрын
Fromt mics need mic muff for heavy winds at sea
@grahambinoreviews
@grahambinoreviews Жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks for the video! Do you know if this camera has a feature that can superimpose a timestamp on your footage, I'm thinking about using it for legal work and a timestamp, preferrably not a black one is a must.
@TinkerTown.
@TinkerTown. Жыл бұрын
i believe so double check in the manual in the description
@TopSecretVid
@TopSecretVid Жыл бұрын
Is the XF400 a decent camera??
@TheFandangovideoguy
@TheFandangovideoguy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice detailed review (I would love to see more footage of course! Shot in WideDR which is what I use most frequently with my C100 mk2) but thanks so much. I realize that nowadays mirrorless and cinema cameras (Canon C70!) are the rave and camcorders like this one are not sexy! But I own a XF300 and one XF100 and a C100 mk2 and they all have their uses. I have used the XF for live events-some minor concerts/dance shows etc and they are ok if there are lights on the stage...my c100 mk2 can get to ISO 5000 without much noise but it's not a run and gun camera really. I can use it a bit like that but sometimes a camcorder is the way to go. I didn't like the XF400-too consumer-ish I felt...couldnt afford the XF705! and I looked at the panasonic HC-X2000 4K camcorder but it's tiny sensor MUST be as bad or worse than my current XF100....so nope...this XF605 looks promising but is $6k Cdn here in Canada ...a lot of money and Canon has done a poor job at showing real footage shot with it...I have seen some samples here on youtube....some are just horrible...shot in auto and the footage is terrible. A few have been great...but I'm still not convinced I should buy it. I can't expect it to be as good in low light (not darkness-just not ideal-wedding receptions etc) as my C100 mk2 and a sigma 18-35mm f1.8! I understand..the 1" sensor may be a good compromise I guess... I watched a video in which a videographer compared a XF605 to a Sony pocket camera RX-100 VII and the video quality was alike for both, but of course the XF605 offers a true professional package..and yet...I'm not convinced. Maybe is the price...or some of the sample footage..too spoiled with the C100 mk2 and my Sony a6400 maybe...help! thanks for the video!
@TinkerTown.
@TinkerTown. 2 жыл бұрын
so you got me thinking. take your sigma and crank it to 6.4f and thats roughly were you would be at with the low light performance of the xf605. i just tryed this with my fuji x trans 4 apsc vs my xf400 both set to there lowest iso and the 400 actually edged it out by a bit. the end of this footage was mostly shot in the wide dr but for me c log3 to get the most out of it.
@TheFandangovideoguy
@TheFandangovideoguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@TinkerTown. I'd love to see a video comparison in low light pls...thanks!
@TinkerTown.
@TinkerTown. 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFandangovideoguy ah yes the 605 has gone back to the rental place. And now its time to save. hope you find some footage maybe try the 605 group on facebook cheers!!
@TheFandangovideoguy
@TheFandangovideoguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@TinkerTown. ok then! thanks- but this camera is NO Cinema camera killer! NOPE!
@bobuk5722
@bobuk5722 2 жыл бұрын
You really cannot judge image quality via KZfaq, it has been heavily compressed, you need to see the camera outputs on a decent monitor with no internet in the way.
@inter-linked
@inter-linked Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Is the stabilisation any better than the XF400?
@TinkerTown.
@TinkerTown. Жыл бұрын
yes its a fair bit better
@inter-linked
@inter-linked Жыл бұрын
@@csamd9049 OK. So no real change from XF400/405?
@inter-linked
@inter-linked Жыл бұрын
@@csamd9049 appreciate it. So no major image quality boost from xf400?
@AmazeStudios
@AmazeStudios Жыл бұрын
Does it have LANC?
@camerondiprose1722
@camerondiprose1722 Жыл бұрын
Did you find this out? I only assumed it had one🤔
@danieldougan269
@danieldougan269 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent camcorder. But is it a cinema camera killer? The sensor is only a 1" type, and cinema cameras have Super 35 or full frame sensors. The difference in dynamic range, low light, and depth of field is still enormous. With that said, if you're an indie filmmaker, you could use this in a pinch. I don't know why you would when there are more cinematic options out there for less cash. The mirrorless cameras out there are shooting amazing video quality today. A lot of the issues DSLR and mirrorless cameras have had in the past for shooting video have been mitigated. The preamps are better, XLR adapters are available for many models, and the autofocus is excellent on the latest models. They still haven't put built-in ND filters on any mirrorless cameras, but I am hopeful that will happen sometime soon. Perhaps the XF605 could be used on set for niche kinds of shots. No, this is a camcorder. And there's nothing wrong with that for the appropriate use case. I see camcorders being the right choice for live event coverage, news gathering, sports, etc. I know the 1" sensor can give you a blurred background, but it's still probably too much depth of field to be considered cinematic.
@das_tattooatelier_freistadt
@das_tattooatelier_freistadt 7 ай бұрын
Was mir bei all den DSLRs fehlt sind die Schnellzugriffstasten und meist fehlenden Ein - und Ausgänge. Und, ganz ehrlich: die Wenigsten User drehen Hollywoodfilme, der Großteil der Endprodukte wird später am Smartphone angesehen... Als Reportagekamera kann ich mir die Kamera z. B. sehr gut vorstellen, mal sehn ob ich sie mal testen kann. 🙂
@adipop
@adipop 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! 👍😀👍like and sub !
@theusbadenhorst
@theusbadenhorst Жыл бұрын
You sound very much like Robert Sephyr. Just saying
@faizanhaqqee2665
@faizanhaqqee2665 4 ай бұрын
No, it isn't. It's noisy like VHS
@alvaropastori
@alvaropastori Жыл бұрын
Your analysis may be interesting, but the flatness of your tone of voice makes it lethargic. Add some zest to your presentations.
@Tetristactical
@Tetristactical 9 ай бұрын
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