You should rename your channel to "No English Squad with HARD BOT VOICE USAGE"

Just recently the developers addressed the issue and the randomized paint system will be removed before launch alongside other changes like the battle coins which were in the battle pass will also be removed

I hate how alot of games now a days Practice the art of fomo (fear of missing out) whem it comes to guns and loot imo if a game has a gun in a battle pass they should make it so that yo can still obtain it after the event but dont make it easy so if you want the gun you have to work for it like everyone else did I just dont really like comeing into a game just to find out some gear and guns are Unobtainable.

I really enojyed the beta. First time playing and yeah it really reminded me of WF - especially ability to mod your descendants and weapons altering their performance that way. I'm not concerned about microtransactions, I've played WF for many years now - grind is not a stranger. Really looking forward to playing the game tho.

As someone who's been playing warframe since 2013 and doesn't do anything now in warframe but lvl cap runs, I'm at the point where I'm only playing update to update. I hope this game is a success and something that can fill the void between the long Warframe updates🙏

nexon ? remember guys, leopard never change its spot.

Who though hey let's put colors into a gacha system that only is available for a one time use on a single slot of a descendant or gear.

ALL nexon games end up turning into a wallet siphon. Abort mission Tenno

Nexon really showed their total lack of shame with the RNG paint. One of the best gifts you can give a new warframe player is color pallets, which makes DE non-trivial money. Anyone spending a penny on the paint system needs to be shamed for mindlessly rewarding leaders who belong in poverty not management.

There will always be people with different opinions on what they perceive as the correct and only way to do things. I did noticed you used a different A.I. voice for this video compared to your other videos in the past First Descendant Beta. Reading through the comments I learned alot and understand what is happening. Either way the video you posted has provided the necessary answers for what I wanted to know so it was very helpful. Thanks and keep up the great work.

Wow didn't even notice this was AI until I read that pinned comment. It's really good. Also just realized this is Grind Hard Squad. The AI voice now versus the old days is much improved!

That's a real softball to Nexon "Well sure there's pay to win battlepass exclusive weapon and shop p2w boosters with no ingame currency but maybe they'll make one?" But yeah thanks

today on the tfd discord server they announced the change to the dye system and battlepass among ither thing which is a great start

The only things I worry about is if I have to pay for things to progress, or progress quickly. As in have to pay to bypass days of grinding. The other is items and weapons that you can only get by paying for them, and give those who do or can pay an advantage over other players. I don't mind so much on if I have to play the game to get the same things others may pay to have more quickly, so long as that option is available to play to get them.

The point of paint being used on the characters is to make them look cool like how destiny has one whole pack for shaders that are sold in glimmer also if they take that type of tactic from destiny 2 shader collection being on sale for the money that you earn in-game also want to ask is there any vehicle to use to explore the map area’s

I don't know, exclusive cash weapons? This can be a huge problem in the future.

I am so glad you are covering TFD! I think the game will be great ^^ I hope the developers take the feedback and they will see the community grow definitely Hope the game gets a great launch and to see you cover more of this game

Wats sad is that these ppl never learn untill its too late especially if you think Nexon is going to be as generous as DE..... pffff no you smoking lol These guys put a gacha on color and you think they won't escalate that into something elses and that "It's just a skin" quote im hearing ppl btw say that again when you see $40-50 skins alongside slots and resources you gonna need later 😂

Did they remove the keys needed for the boss misions ?

i really hate when companies charge money for something as basic as a fkn color for ur character like wth

@9:00 is that a bunny skin or new character?

Loved the beta keen for the game so do you know when it’s coming out 😂🎉 Edited release date, second of July 🎉

If figuring out a good monetization scheme for F2P was that easy warframe would ahve already had some sucesssful "clones" years ago

The video is inaccurate. There are Crystal's you need to buy to increase your mod level, to equip a mod and upgrade a mod. Around ten dollars each time and you get 6 mods per weapon. Three to four weapons and 6 mods for your character. Each one cost ten dollars roughly per crystal. Then to increase the mod to make it stronger cost another crystal.

It's nice to see you playing jayber GHS.

AYO AFTER A WHILE...m glad u r not using ai voice its amazing to hear you ....hope u keep growing

Pay for convenience in PVE is typically ass because they make the affected portion of the game extra bad just to make that "pay" for convenience that much more enticing...

Any game that has a Gacha style system is a no for me, HARD PASS! Especially from a company that just got fined a few years back for stealing 420m from the maple story players by adjusting loot tables and making it seem like you could get items you really had no chance of getting out of the gacha system.

I think the best f2p monetization is Path of Exile. Most of what you can buy is cosmetics. They're expensive af, but when the game is free you feel less bad about paying $30 for a skin. The only "pay to win" thing about it is stash tabs for holding more crap, which is: 1) not technically necessary if you're committed. 2) cheap AND go on sale like every 3 weeks.

Nexon. No more to say.

me grinding dojo pigments in warframe watching you talk about paints lol

I'm just fucking angry to see that Nexon tried to push our limits with paint system, those mofo wanted to see how far they can go, that's insane

Thanks for the video. I was thinking about buying the game. This video helped make up my mind.

Well, going off your logic You said it's not yet since there is nothing in the store that gives you an Unfair Advantage... That isn't true at all at launch at least. Usually, I am okay with paying for convenience stuff as I play games like Guild Wars 2 and other Mmorpgs. But there is a very thin line between the pay-for-convenience stuff being paid to win and not. Paying for stuff now that would otherwise be locked to something like a 30 or so-hour grind is a bit pay-to-win at launch at least. So, in the store, you can buy every single character instantly instead of doing the stupidly long grind for one. You can buy end-game mats to level up your gun and character right off the bat in 20+ stacks. You can buy some end-game mats that otherwise take many hours to grind for. Buying the Battle Pass gives you Bonus Weapon and character Xp... That is 100% an unfair advantage over others at launch at least.

Yeah, that's why I'm not gonna touch it until after launch when I can get a better idea if the micro transactions are something I'm willing to deal with (I'm guessing it will be a pass)

was really excited to be playing again but for some reason my pc cant handle it. i can run most games on max settings easily but for not this game even with everything on the lowest. im hoping this is just an optimization bug or thingy thats gonna get patched. waited for so long and just to realize i cant play

Nexon scares me, that name never been to any good

Imho, pay for convenience is the same thing as pay to win. You gain an unfair advantage over other players at achieving game goals. It's just less annoying as long as there's no competition in any shape or form between players. As soon as competition is involved and affected, straight to pay to win it goes. So, a game that starts as pay for convenience can easily morph into pay to win later as soon as they introduce some form of PvPvE, for example.

I hope they make it with alot of enemies and action also add pvp game mode

From the first open beta that i played they just took the same formula of warframe then adapted it. But if you’re not bothering with pvp you can most likely skip the battle pass as long as it’s not locking store and ect behind it. I want them to not go scummy because DE need some competition to step up as a 2000h player started back in a year after if drop in PS it needs content for its longer term players and stop handing everything out to newer comers like it currently is like Steel path circuit should only be allowed for people who completed the steel path star chart because those weapons are very game changing

I heard Nexon is very well known for making games & then shutdown games. That really true?

This new warframe update looks very different

The pay to win was noticeable in the Beta in the form of their version of Forma's. Nearly impossible to farm but easy to buy. It will take days just to have a chance to get one.

I usually play free games only and never spend money, but I think I just might have to clean out the cobwebs from my wallet for TFD, not for paints though. I'm not looking to play a fashion dress up game.

I promise you the battle pass will be far from the only things available for purchase. These games start off well meaning, however the majority or players will NOT spend on the game meaning in order to keep the game going the have to milk the people they'll will. Now peoples argument is fortnight. That doesn't count because we are talking about kids playing that game and skins being something younger players care about. This game will not have that, so the only thing left if to sell players advantages to put them above other players to show off.

I found myself enjoying the game more by seeing it as a 3rd person shooter Diablo/PoE instead of a Warframe/Destiny like

They should implement the warframe business model....it is an EXAMPLE of how free to play games should be...the feedback was mostly negative...so I think we are going to see changes...!

Surely pay to win onky matters in PVP games. The issue I have is casual gamers will struggle to get into this game unless they pay to skip the grind. But the grind is what makes unlocking things more enjoyable.

(Subscribed) Good informative video. While I agree it's not P2W I do think it's Pay to Progress. But it's Nexon, who'd Thunk it lol. I was pissed at the whole RNG color thing. Game has a lot of potential. But sadly, with Nexon at the helm...... I'm definitely not holding my breath. I am looking forward to this game but I'm definitely on the " Expect the worst, Hope for the best " fence.

the battlepass is not nearly as bad as the coloring aspect I HATE games that monetizing gambling with a passion if that does not get changed, this game becomes an easy skip for me

Theres no pvp im aware of so how is it pay to win?

Nexon will show their true colors in the end. They always do. If the Fair Trade Commission in Korea barely slapped them on the hand for their unacceptable behavior in maplestory with an 8 mil dollar (what a joke) fine, then they'll happily continue their anti-consumer practices in other online games. If you support this publisher, then you're part of the problem in the games industry. Your choice.

Colors behind RNG farm you say? Not played Guild Wars 2 I see.

In the end i will comeback to warframe ❤

I wouldn’t mind not having a pay to win game if they would stop making the drop loot pool so saturated and chance drop set to like.0000001% to force you to play.😊 But if I can purchase something that allows me to get back to playing the game and not spend hours doing one mission in hopes a fkn drop your looking for

Wait I thought I’d have to pay for the game, that’d be so much better than free to play especially with games nowadays

4:11 That's how it used to be, it's less common now to "just buy a game once and play", so many editions, so many "microtransaction", battlepasses, cosmetics. Alot of "buy to play" games use the same tactics as free to play games nowadays

I'd love to be hopeful, but the Triple-A industry drained any good will I'm willing to grant them, even CDPR failed with Cyberpunk's launch, I don't trust any of them any more, with very few exceptions, like FromSoft, Grinding Gear Games or the Monster Hunter team. And I certainly don't trust Nexon nor a dev team that already had history of bad monetization. Even indie games, which I love, can get greedy, it's rare since their success relays on good will and word of mouth. DE had the benefit of being independent, at least until recently, so they fell into the same category of relaying on the good will of the community. I still have some trust in DE, since Tencent owns Grinding Gear Games and they are still doing a great job, so hopefully Tencent will leave DE to fo their thing

When Nexon looks at Warframe they just see missed profit opportunity.

I agree when i saw this was made by nexon i am very on the fence.

600 ducets bought battle pass and premium was more. pretty generic with these games battle pass is 20$ for premium. i have a feeling it will be 10 usd=1000 ducets. but hopefully we will see. (just as an assumption to kinda guage prices for now. well see what happens when game releases. that would put descendents at 10-20$ and ultimate descendents (prime warframes) at 50ish a pop? i think it was? i cant remember how much the ultimates costed thought was 5k.

3:06 Take shot for every time he said "Battlepass"(don't actually) 😅

Fashion is always the true endgame. TFD makes you gacha repeatedly for colors, therefore TFD is p2w

It’s PvE who are we having an advantage on, the NPC?

Nexon is really changing their bad ways wow ❤

If you play the beta you know the farm for new characters will be hell

I don't know why, but I really didn't like playing it this time compared to the beta. Even if it launches not P2W.. it will become that way later

lol i forgot to play because I was at a convention lol

dont forget the weapon in the battle pass is in the free pass. you just have to complete the levels of the battle pass to unlock it. which is normal. just like destiny does. it could also become available for free the season after bp, we just dont know yet. waiting to see.

I don't mine the trading

Played to many Nexon games and know that most of their mmos dont make it past 5 good years everything after that is just crap. I'll just wait till the game come out and see some reviews and streams

remember when outriders was a good game.. amd then the update came out that doomed everyone's inventory

I like my looter shooters flashy. I'm afraid this game doesn't look flashy enough for me to spent any $$$ on it.

the only problems i had with any game if they have gender lock class its just a no2/a huge negative for me.

Warframe : grind for anything , get anything. This game feels : buy something , get something

I hate when people say well they have to make money on their f2p game somehow so I’m fine with spending hundreds to support. They don’t HAVE to make a f2p game in the first place.

So its a gender lock thing? That is a very humiliating thing in 2024. Also, its Skyforge 2?

Winning is winning. Doesn't matter 0:51 if its PVP or PVE. If you pay to get more powerful or an edge then it's pay2win

Can't play on xbox yet so I'll wait

it is p2w, those ultimate weapon are damn op also nexon never let u play for free since they always force u to buy storage to be able to continue to play game, just like they did in undecember

i was in the T test got to say this games systems r shady AF they need to kik the corpo greed out & it might be good but im not willing to be milked like a cow

😂 bro I already play Warframe, I don't need this in my life

Well see what happen when you release a video just to keep your numbers up and get views... It didn't age well, plus you dont believe its p2w yourself and i believe you stated it😂😂😂 i actually enjoyed your warframe channel, thanks for letting me know you're one of those streams i can do without, have a blessed career

Hhhh the game looks cool and all and im honestly very interested, but the knowledge of premium purchases being 7 out of 10 of the best ways to get alot of stuff sounds like such a drag and im not really in the mood for another intensely grindy game

Only if its op pvp gear

Lmao The fact ppl dont want to talk about warframe being a small community and that most ppl leave the game bc off the real money to make in the trading lol

Why colors need RNG???

So, the battlepass system is the same as Fortnite's system. The only difference is that Fortnite is purely cosmestic, while TFD is gonna have weapons. The color system is pure BS. I got nothing against crafting new colors, but the colors being locked to a single descendant once it's equipped is ridiculous.

"doesn't matter, its pve" even if its fkn pve, if a bozo who p2w gets in my squad in matchmaking and kills everything and you do nothing it still not ok lol, why are people so ok with p2w bullshit ... " let them make their money " , sell fkn skins .

it's a nexon, expected cash bagging

all modern games are cashrabs, question is, do we care??

customization being that restrictive is its downfall, inventory limit in a looter shoter? HAHA dead on arrival

Considering the first descendant hqs no pvp right now no its not pay 2 win

if they add loot boxes I'm out.

Bro, we love your content. That's why we are here. Trolls are ridiculous and shouldn't get any attention. Much love and respect, keep grinding

This guy said AHHHjax LUL

to be fair, its nexon...the game is bound to have the monetization system of a gacha game.

whoa, 13k hours in warframe, 3x mine, LOL

good insight, knowledge and feedback. good video 👍

Stay To Warframe !! Don't do it to yourself !!