That was at 8:30 or so for anyone who wants to know

Ive pretty much always thought free will is impossible because humans are only capable of acting in response to either physical impulses or interpolated information

Enjoyed the video up until that point

😂 Indeed

Exactly what the joker wants

A RandomPerson, more like *starts to laugh*

Here I have a card 🃏 hahahahaha

Begins to sweat and then pulls an identification sized card from somewhere and hands it over. The non-glove wearing hand of the recipient of the card heats it to the point where Joker's special mix of chemical causes the card to explode with copious amounts of smoke. The Joker knows how long to wait for the card to blow up and uses the distraction to escape.

I didn't know he visited Britain.

@@katyushamarikov8819 you got a license for that comment?

That's some decent mindful meditationing my dood.

Same!!!

That's actually the first thing they teach when learning mindfulness.

I actually had to make myself think about a cheeseburger at that part

When your told to think, you can't think.

Hehe not really but but this type of tactic is so often used in KZfaq comments. People who will defend or make excuses or arguments for or against the rest who logically decided it's good or bad for the right reasons, and then comes along some KZfaqr saying the opposite. Probably because unconsciously they know they're the type who would do something the rest would disagree with, and thus be against him, so sneaky you tubers try to defend their actions in the comments before they even make them

Nine months down the drain.

And now I’m a stealth archer.

Yeah, I figured I'd skip out on the mathematics skill tree and divert those points to physical strength. It has not gone well...

Me: "And done" Game: "you have not assigned all of your skill points, by continuing you forfeit all left over skill points thus making the game harder." Me: "eh screw it what could go wrong." Me (later): "oh that's what could go wrong."

In hindsight, dumping everything into INT and using STR, DEX, and CHA as dump stats may have been a mistake. Also, picking Chaotic Good as an alignment didn't go as well. At least I wasn't stupid enough to go for the LG Paladin combo. Sadly, picking NPC as my class wasn't a good idea, either.

*Joker is Super Sane* Me: DEADPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! WE NEED TO GET JOKER!

@OriginalTharios and thats the joke

@@nyankers The joke is more along the lines of him knowing his victims are just strokes of ink on paper, so when this serious brooding man in a bat costume just tries to bring him to justice, you can see how comical it is.

So.... Deadpool.

@@monroerobbins7551 Sort of but in a much more dark and serious manner. Deadpool uses it to poke fun and be cooky, joker sees it as a reason to kill and maim and laugh about it.

Yeeees. I just thought the same, it would be great :D

I thought about that too, then the free will stuff started coming up lol

CrimsonRush117 yes

Was about to comment the same.

Lol

Drained_Entity because he probably has their families at gunpoint at all times.

ImASpookyAndroid Isn’t it weird how the US is the only western country medieval enough to still kill people as punishment? The law is not for personal revenge, it’s supposed to be objective and yet the US as a whole still practises it.

bc the point of a legal system is to reform ppl, not erase them from existence. It's unbelievable to me that some states in the USA still use the death sentence

@Vishya Knewdat actually the death penalty for rape is a horrible idea because it has been proven that when there is a death penalty for rape the rapists are much more likely to kill their victims. That is why it is no longer used in rape cases

It's not legal to execute the insane. And in some places it's illegal all together.

upvote this so he can see it!!! XD

Joker defended himself in the white knight storyline

@THE VOID fuck you

"Hey Because Science, Kyle here."

He is Michael, disguised in hair.

@@myMotoring Indeed. I love Vsauce, but he releases videos only on blue moon days.... In the meantime, this is a nice fix to get me by!

Relevant xkcd xkcd.com/220/

@@TwiStedTentom hes done a shit ton of videos on ding

A couple issues with this: A. The argument in this video is that free will is an illusion, not consciousness. There's a pretty big difference there. B. This type of conversation doesn't lead to "nowhere." This can literally change your entire outlook on...well, everything. I know for me, personally, I am now a bigger advocate for more compassionate treatment for prisoners, and more aware of environmental factors involved in any crime or morally abhorrent behavior. This changes the kind of juror I would be, political policies I advocate for, etc. That's some pretty major shit that you're chalking up to nothing.

@@bobthabuilda1525 so help people that hurt others but not normal innocent people your pathetic and what's wrong with the world

@@bobthabuilda1525 I don't really care about compassionate treatments. Maybe minor crimes? But criminals who had committed atrocities deserves no compassion. I think best thing is do the same thing to them that they have done to their victims. I think that's justice.

One's own self just to release it from pain of being alone and nothingness

but did you close them?

Well clearly, since there's no reply

@@davidninan88 /sigh *and this has been a PSA about texting/ commenting / following directions at the wrong time while driving. Remember kids, don't do it. if its important find a safe designated parking place to pull over. Otherwise, replying to messages can wait.*

I said the same thing lol

This reply section is lit AF

Science is applied philosophy... PHILO 101

Because Law

What would happen if free will was an illusion ? In such a case, what could be the upside of believing, at an individual scale, that we are indeed free ? Despite all the evidence of determinism’s considerable influence upon us ? Start to ponder about it and you will realize that, if you think with the same brain with which you think, then ANY bias affecting your reasoning on yourself will provoke the failure of said reasoning - since the medium through which you think is affected by the very same bias you are trying to identify. In other words, in a positive sense, it is impossible to think about oneself properly, just as a division by zero is meaningless : you can only be tending toward it, but never totally reach it. Unless you are ‘’perfect’’ - meaning, here, fully aware of everything about yourself, from the events that lead to your existence to the causes of who you became -, you can’t be fully un-biased. As an ad absurdo thought experiment, let’s imagine someone who has a perfectly unbiased view of themselves, and who would be able to retrace and understand the cause of each event leading to their current existence, and to who they are at this moment. What would actually happen if this person tried to think about why they are themselves ? Well, not only would they retrace a causal chain of events growing bigger and bigger by the second ; but ultimately, and whatever the complexity of the taken path might be, their introspection would only lead to a simple choice : ‘’what would I want to be, since I am really free to choose ?’’ And that’s where lies the hard limit of thought : a person capable of such a deep level of introspection would also be able to know the cause of their own choices. In that scenario, would it be their choice, or their acceptance of any given determinism ? Then the quest of becoming someone you choose to become would loop on itself indefinitely, since any attempt at ending it can only result in its failure. Nonetheless, there is another path : refusing to choose. Refusing any determinism. … Which means remaining trapped into your own introspection. Just as a Larsen of pure thought, the perfect consciousness of the very process with which thinking is being formed will eventually paralyze the mind. So, if this whole ‘’perfectly unbiased and reasoning human’’ story isn’t achievable, then maybe it is to protect our minds from such a fate ; much like the safety fuses for electronical devices, our incapacity of staring at ourselves without any bias could be a defense mecanism from the mind… against itself.

@@c-hd.8644 Free will is real. The only problem is that happens when a person can't act on them or won't remember doing it. A newborn has no bias of self A drunk man has no filter to say no intentional or NOT. Meaning his bias doesn't matter

@@Johncornwell103 I think we do not speak of the same thing : bias are no social restraints, but limitations to what we are able to think to. I agree, newborns have no prenotions of their own (though they will gain some very early), and drunk people lack those restraints ... Like dement old people, some kind of autists and so on. Doesn't mean they does not lack at least some of the nearly infinite abilities to look at their reality : a baby won't know that he/she is something apart of Mom for some time, a drunk person won't stop to be racist, blind or even born in some country, therefore not anywhere else. Not to mention raised by other people, and so on. What I call a bias isn't a filter but a horizon, a limit to what you can see ... And I don't think anyone could ever tell he/she knows everything. So, his/her free will won't be anything but the perception of being able to choose among its determinisms, lacking any other options avalaible he/she can't be aware of, due to his/her previous experiences. Not to mention that even if he/she was, as I said, ultimately a infinite choice of determinisms is nothing but the negation of free will too, because of the causality that lead to the choice.

If you liked this one, check out Shoddycast's Rethinking series video on "Does Good Or Bad Karma Exist" 😎😉

@@SalmonColoredSalmon6267 lol wow my memory is so bad that I don’t remember a damn thing about this video and it’s kinda nuts seeing my comment expressing how much I loved it. Might have to rewatch this lol. Just added your recommendation to my watch list. Thanks!

i just got given a choice of three premade characters

I pressed random

@@hoodedgenius3249 you missed the customize button. It's small

I am actually multiple characters ;)

@@fatemehsoniaimantalab6608 #schizophrenia

Without the comma it's redundant.

Everette Bradfute 😂😂😂

The quote is, "Now I may be just a super villain, lawyer." The "may" in that sentence creates ambiguity. It implies that he may not be a super villain.

"I'm Just a ..... Lawyer" the claim is that he is a lawyer, the qualifier is meaningless to the overall claim. (trained contract reviewer here)

The Werefrog as any super villain would, of course.

*Humming intensifies*

Is that a motherfucking Overwatch reference?

69 likes

Hehehe~

Thought the same hahahaa

That show sucks, and I have never seen it

@Vishya Knewdat of course he wouldn't stoop so low with that impropriety. He lives in a society

No I like that show I also like most CW shows

Haku infinite I only said that so no one calls me Sexist

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!

That's abnormal? I always have about a dozen different things running through my head, usually one of them is a music track. Stopping thinking and clearing my mind takes active effort. It's not different "voices" per se, but more many of the various problems I have, most of which I'm paid to solve, being a computer support tech. My mind is much like my desk, cluttered and always changing.

@@dangingerich2559 Same But in this instance, its the screaming the bothers me

*Close eyes thinks of Waifu* Thinks of City, Chooses between Utah, Nevada, Washington and Ohio cities, was about to consider California ones when he said to focus on one. Chooses one. Says I don't have free will, my mind: Bullsh!+.

@@mixartjohnson8968 Indeed

I was thinking the same thing! "Don't blame the super villain! It's just who we I mean THEY.... are."

I just made the 666th like. Let that sink in.

@@qinjikofoxx5580 I'm not liking exactly for that reason

He does say in his nuclear power video that the department of energy removed his supervillain record for making the video

My same thought lol

Kyle: and while you're doing that I'm going to take over Gotham. Me: I KNEW IT THIS WHOLE TIME. GOTCHA

No no no guys, what he meant was he's a Super Villain and he's a Lawyer, Super Villain-Lawyer.

Kyle : Yes

Why not both ?

Ask She-Hulk. She was once a lawyer for supervillains

Yes

2 Face, She Hulk, Daredevil.

I’m very sorry to hear about your story. I hope your brother is currently well.

@@pressftopayrespects6325 Thank you 💛 He was finally able to get himself free of the system recently thanks to a PO who understood how things go.

@@Ghostly_Chris Really glad to hear!

Don't have children if possible. Don't pass your genes. Or if ur "fine" then adopt

But did you choose to use that meme, or did the meme choose you?

@@z-beeblebrox A boy dont pick the meme, the meme picks the boy.

I thought of Dublin, because I scrolled down and saw this comment

@Agent J Bro, there are many situations where people got no control over what is happening in their lives. You could be educated and prepared and still not get that "dream job" or whatever position you were studying for. There are many problems in society, economy, politics, infrastructure and Laws/governance that could stand in the way of how successful an individual could be. You didn't/can't choose your reality, you make the best with what you got... And what's wrong with hopes and prayers?

@Agent J I don't know where you stand buddy but you need to come back to reality. You can be "Paralyzed by fear" or "believe bullshit" all you want, but if the economy of your country is bad, no amount of "choosing your reality" will help that or any other global issue. YOU can't "choose" to change problems in the world, especially when they affect your success... yes, YOUR SUCCESS.

@Agent J I don't know who you are, but even you have things that made you successful. You chose a lot, but not every thing that brought you to where you are today. Good People, educational degrees, political Influences, good healthcare, who knows but all these and many more contributed to your success. Say your country didn't provide enough of these things or not at all, say we take them away from you and have you grow up, what are you in the end of the day... well, a lot less successful than you are now. You can't choose your reality, but you can choose your path in life.

@Agent J there are many persons with horrible circumstances in their lives. Some of these persons turn out to be truly admirable persons and some become rich and famous through hard work and dedication. They suffered hardships in their lives that are just as hard as another person who does not succeed but they did through their own efforts. 'Identical' twins often have completely different lives. Why is that? Same lives and influences but different results. Your argument is invalid.

Nah, he's not wearing enough leather and latex, nor is he sporting sunglasses.

I agree. We make choices. I've heard this video's argument before and it's weak.

IKR!? XD

Legit my first thought

I applaud the effort and the factual basis, however I would like to say that a video such as this has a very superficial take on mental illness as a whole. I would like to say that, but then you brought it back around to displaying the sympathy you have for those who have been wrought by circumstance and turning it towards a mindfulness exercise that explains to the popular people that we are not different than those who we part our ways from (and more than that in a biopsychosocial reference!). There needs to be more of an understanding about these contexts of life, and there needs to be more funding to make it so that we all can feel comfortable in our own skin to evolve, to get better, and to better those around us. And if our compassion met no bounds, perhaps thought experiments such as these have a place in commiting all of those objectives to reality. In sum, I applaud you, and I would ask that you would use this as an opportunity to increase awareness to an organization that advocates for and educates the popular opinion on what mental illness is and how it affects every person in society. NAMI is a perfect example, and deserves to be supported as much as possible. Please share this in your further examination of the comments on your videos, I'm sure it will help the cause that I can see you have a great insight upon, and a cause that affects millions of Americans. If you are able to and interested you can donate to NAMI dot org (I didn't know if I'd get flagged for handling an actual URL) and if we all chipped in a couple of dollars (perhaps sacrificing that one PSL you crave before it even reaches midway through October) the lives of so many people would be impacted so greatly. Thank you.

Super villains such as Kyle don't use such words

What would happen if free will was an illusion ? In such a case, what could be the upside of believing, at an individual scale, that we are indeed free ? Despite all the evidence of determinism’s considerable influence upon us ? Start to ponder about it and you will realize that, if you think with the same brain with which you think, then ANY bias affecting your reasoning on yourself will provoke the failure of said reasoning - since the medium through which you think is affected by the very same bias you are trying to identify. In other words, in a positive sense, it is impossible to think about oneself properly, just as a division by zero is meaningless : you can only be tending toward it, but never totally reach it. Unless you are ‘’perfect’’ - meaning aware of every single thing about you and why you become who you are, in this case -, you can’t be fully un-biased. As an ab absurdo thought experiment, let’s imagine someone who has a perfectly unbiased view of themselves, and who would be able to retrace and understand the cause of each event leading to their current existence, and to who they are at this moment. What would actually happen if this person tried to think about why they are themselves ? Well, not only would they retrace a causal chain of events growing bigger and bigger by the second ; but ultimately, and whatever the complexity of the taken path might be, their introspection would only lead to a simple choice : ‘’what would I want to be, since I am really free to choose ?’’ And that’s where lies the hard limit of thought : a person capable of such a deep level of introspection would also be able to know the cause of their own choices. In that scenario, would it be their choice, or their acceptance of any given determinism ? Then the quest of becoming someone you choose to become would loop on itself indefinitely, since any attempt at ending it can only result in its failure. Nonetheless, there is another path : refusing to choose. Refusing any determinism. … Which, sadly, means remaining trapped into your own introspection. Just as a Larsen of pure thought, the perfect consciousness of the very process with which thinking is being formed will eventually paralyze the mind. So, if this whole ‘’perfectly unbiased and reasoning human’’ story isn’t achievable, then maybe it is to protect our minds from such a fate ; much like the safety fuses for electronical devices, our incapacity of staring at ourselves without any bias could be a defense mecanism from the mind... against itself.

There's a gooooooood bit of neuroscience. But yea it starts with philosophy and that's also where the fatal bullet is delivered. Since Libertarian Free Will is logically impossible (as in, the rules of logic).

And just straight up philosophy as far as Libertarian Free Will being logically impossible. The rules of logic do not allow for it.

Joker ^^ funny www.minds.com/xxxminibierxxx/ supervillian that would be great

@@PhxHDrevelation climate scam

Ouch, burn!!! 😁 😁 😁

I love the Futurama.

I chuckled at this one!!

@@Xxmr81xX yeah thought of this because I just saw the newest one

@@LordofSyn thanks!

@@thepinebros.1873 You're most welcome and I, too; am glad that VSauce has returned.

...but that's just a theory. A game theory!

no

yes

@@Ardeshir8 wanna know how I got these scars?

Which is not a bad thing ! Haha (i also had that thought at some points in the video ;) )

Totally my thoughts too.

Autism.

I came down to the comments looking for this exact comment.

Skeletor7599 I’m wondering if DJ has destroyed his collabablility with that “Game Theory stole my video” fiasco a while back. Because I’ve seen several great opportunities for people to collaborate that have been missed.

@@Riggs_The_Roadie me too lol

@@Jessie_Helms game theory gave him a shout out in it

My thoughts

Same, except it was more like, What is different now that they released MTGA officially? the answer: nothing

@@MonkeyJedi99 Exactly! For something to "pop 'into' your head" it must enter.

thoughtseize

"Gee, superhero movies suck"

Dag nammit... I was reading the comments and watching at the same time and now I can think about it bloody magic the gathering

Indeed

Life hit me with a draw 4 card and I couldn't do anything but respect the play.

@@Nalrus_The_Walrus True that. Hurts but true.

Lee Gabriel M Banasihan Next video: “Is Superman considered an illegal immigrant?”

I heard that just as I was finishing my sandwich during lunch

I mean there was a lot of psychological seeding going on in that segment, which was part of the point.

my first thought was simply "cheese"

This video has been viewed thousands of times by, presumably, hundreds if not thousands of people in different situations. Statistically, he had to be right about someone. 😝

Yes.

What lawyer isnt

Good question indeed.

Why not both? He defends cilents in court by day and plots the destruction and/or domination of society by night

Probably both

Manifestation through subconscious thoughts

myrturbine one of these days he’s gonna get caught and has all the proof he needs to plead insanity. It’s genius

An_bod_ Y true

Except that he didn't help him. He proved that joker is not criminally insane. Instead... It appears he's taken out a rival supervillain...

@@ZyphisV so he's taking out his competitors, interesting Also does 'super villain lawyer' imply he's a lawyer for super villains or that he's a super villain who is also a lawyer

Yes.

So just a lawyer then?

SwiggitySwooty BOTH!!!!

Good job, brain... lol

Actually, I picked a State. The State I am in in the US. I picked a State thoughtlessly because I have lived in many cities in my state that are too close to tell exactly where the lines are.

well at least your brain give you a reply.. my brain just give silent for the whole experiment...

@@zerocalvin I hate when that happens. Have a stream of thoughts. You know I should right that done so I don't forget. Grab paper and pen. Now what was I thinking about "I don't Know" *shrug*

I got velocity.

Am I the only one that read this in the voice of Tommy Wiseau?

I didn't read it in his voice until you mentioned it.....then I re-read it in his voice lmao

Matt Dowds I didn’t even mean to do that and it makes it SOOOO much better. Thank you.

Ohio?

"Think of a city" Me: Chicago. "Why that city?" Me: Because I live in Chicago. "Why not Dublin?" Me: Because I live in Chicago. "Why not Cairo?' Me: Because I live in Chicago.

@@Johncornwell103 well, I'm not going to say *which* Lancaster, obviously.

Same reasoning (Toronto,)

I had a similar reasoning. "Think of a city" Baltimore "Why that city?" It's a close city to where I live "Why not Dublin?" I'm nowhere near Dublin and I am a born American why would I randomly choose Dublin? "Why not Cairo?" Same deal my science dude, cept this time it's cuss I'm not from Missouri or Egypt.

Nobody: USA: "And I'm proud to be an American Where at least I know I'm free And I won't forget the men who died Who gave that right to me" *F-16's flying in the background while a giant bald eagle carrying an american flag appears*

Look, if you don't have free will, there's nothing you can do about it. So why worry about it? You feel like you have free will, and the world works as if you have free will, so just live life as if you have free will.

Goes hand in hand especially with space stuff

Goes hand in hand with science of any kind. Science is humbling in design and still open to creativity and imagination. The more we learn, the more we also learn that there is much more to learn. The goalposts keep moving and nothing is ever set in stone, as it should be. Besides, our species constantly needs a warm slice of humble pie. Constantly.

You have a point tho. We think about it for five seconds but the second we see a news story about some guy torturing a puppy we're gonna switch back to "someone skin him alive" mode because that's the natural response most people have to those stories (at least judging by comments on said stories)

No no... its not that we can't make a new decision and change... its that whether or not we will take that step is cooked into our life long cause and effect chain. We will or won't do what we are going to do based on our own life path, leading us to make the choice we are only capable of making in that moment. Change is constant. And or decisions direct that change, we can assess and direct our path but we will only do it because of who we are leading up to that decision. That's why I carry a coin. I like the randomness of the universe to make choices for me sometimes.

Yeah this was a pretty interesting argument on why prisons should focus on rehabilitation over punishment. Sure, some criminals will never become functioning members of society and should be kept separate from the rest of us. But that extends to his animal analogy too. We do build infrastructure to prevent wild animals from entering our society.

@@YoshionoKimochi Two Face, is that you?

@@skair9000 *Flips coin* ...No. *Balls up the fist, reaches way back... And asserts myself!*

That guy's got a chill first name.

The Boros guild thanks you for your commitment to JUSTICE! Here are some flaming swords and a warrior angel will be here shortly for your training.

That is not wise at all.

@@ShadowLynx777 angel with a shotgun 😅

Gunnar Young so do we

He probably meant, "think of a random city"... and you're missing the point

Woah angry little man! Of course he was pulling a city at random. But with all the cities in the world, he just happened to name the one I thought of. You have trouble standing straight lately or something?

@@Dragnfly_mynamewastaken He didn't even sound that angry but you went on a whole damn tangent...

@@daardarkness4230 he probably thinks he is above us because of his 60 likes comment with the way he talks.

You’re all weird, Joel didn’t miss the point, Jared didn’t seem angry, just wrong, and Joel didn’t go on a tangent, they just explained themselves, which wasn’t very superior of them, perfectly normal when being told they’d missed a point they probably hadn’t, and even if they were being superior, it wasn’t likely like related.

Damn video got deep quick

Because Philosophy.

Ya never know what life's gonna throw at you.

That's Rorschach though

Jacob Keary I am aware of that. Was making the reference because it fits how I feel about the Joker.

@@theViewer221 gotcha

That can't be true -- kH

@@becausescience That's how far the world is from where I am. One. Bad. Day.

That was actually proven false in the same comic it was mentioned it with Gordon. After every evil thing Joker did to him, he was still a good man. It doesn't take one bad day to drive a man insane. It takes a lack of will to just give up. I've had plenty of bad days, each a chance for me to just lose my mind, but I didn't. I'm I jaded, cynical, self loathing? Yes. But I was never driven mad. I never gave up. Close friends of mine never gave up. To turn to evil, or "insanity" as the joker likes to call it, shows he wasn't strong enough to keep going. "We both stared into the adyss. But when it looked back at you, you blinked." That's a much more fitting quote.

@@Aosgood94 "You Killed the Joke"

Me too

As did I, I immediately thought of the state my ex and the majority of her family currently reside in and I think the world would be a better place if Pittsburgh no longer existed.

Ah, but he followed it up with Cairo in case you did choose Dublin! So why didn't you choose Cairo?

I choosed São Bernardo do Campo

Own city in Sims City, anyone? No? Okay.

The Time Capsule ah i don't want to live anymore 🙇🏻‍♂️

@@someonelikeyou6138 Suck it up, you don't got a choice.

Good. Now act on that feeling.

*fist bumps*

I was disappointed that Stone wasn't asked to collab on this.