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Plot Twist: This video is actually recycled footage from the “Can you spot the fake Rolex” video. They simply changed the narrator’s voice over.

I can’t believe what they’ve done. They’ve ruined the design. The old one on the left looks way better. Or is it the right? Erm...

"this is a watch harder to get hold of than a greased pig let loose in Takeshi's Castle" haha 😂

I like the Submariner but I’d rather have something else these days. The prices people are prepared to pay and the BS involved to get one are a turn off. I feel the same way about most of the watches Rolex make.

I like Rolex. I do not like Rolex's sales practices with respect to their AD's. For a watch that in terms of quantity are not rare, or in terms of quality state of the art, it's amazing how difficult it is to obtain one at retail prices. I guess like a lot of things, that privilege is reserved for the rich that buy tens of thousands of dollars worth of useless jewelry to even be on a waiting list with a real chance of getting a watch. Or else those who trade in the grey market get them from AD's and flip them for almost 4X retail. Pretty sure the AD's get some kickbacks on resale. My dad bought a Day Date President in the 80's, 18K gold, and got a discount on sale. Those days seem long gone.

I remember when you could buy a Rolex Sub in a US military PX! Now you can't even buy them in a Rolex shop. Who would have ever figured that?

I just picked up mine from my AD last week. 1.5 year wait. It was worth it! Great timepiece and instantly worth more than $ in the bank.

I really liked the way you compared both models. Made it very clear to see the minor changes. Side by side was very difficult to observe any changes.

Watchfinder - You missed one of the biggest changes... the addition of anti-reflective coating to the base of the crystal. That's why in the side by side, the new one is darker than the old. Subtle, but very much an awesome and also a BIG change for Rolex.

My biggest complaint about the Sub and the GMT since the maxi case was released was it's square looking appearance with those lugs and skinny width bracelet. This new watch case is a HUGE welcome.

5:56 That is a brilliant transition to the newer model; really illustrates the major visual differences.

For as slow as Rolex are they (mostly) get things right and seeing the new Sub gave me a grin as the things I didn’t like were changed and for me the watch is technically and aesthetically better looking. The ONLY thing I’d have liked to have seen was a reduction in that dial text, as historically accurate as it is I would love to see a return to two lines three at most, it would balance out the dial just that little bit better top to bottom.

My Rolex submariner is from 1988 never wear it anymore my favourite is still the Zenith El Primero first series from 1969 😉

Nothing wrong with sticking to a perfect design. BUT from there on, innovation must come in either better auality for the same money or making the same quality available for cheaper like in Computing.

Head of R & D at Rolex must be the easiest job going, unless of course they don't have one.

The real disappointment is the consolidation of the dial variants from 5 down to 3. If you don’t want yellow gold, you can choose whatever dial color you want as long as it’s black. Pretty obvious cost cutting as only the yellow gold and two tone variants get a colored dial now (blue).

Can we please appreciate the awesome comparison shots / blends? Thanks a lot, Watchfinder! But I do agree that some cleaning of those two pieces wouldn't have hurt the delightful narration of this video.

Love the submariner owned one for 25 years and could never part with it. I understand rolex releasing a new submariner. But it means nothing to me. As I will never get the chance to purchase one. I'll just enjoy what I have. After all it is a rolex submariner.

Wrong title. It should of been, "Is Rolex a disappointment." And the answer is, "Hell yeah."

5:39 very cool effect!!! Exactly what we need to understand what we’re changed!

Thank you for making the clarification. I love how much I learn from the channel. Short, sweet, and too the point.

Even though the hour hand is thicker on the new model, the whole dial is more spacious and less congested than on previous generation. And that is something always to be praised and acclaimed ! Despite its 41mm this new Submariiner is closer to the spirit of the original than the old one ! To my eyes, at least !

Love your work. Witty, informative, therapeutic. And I agree with your assessment on the sub too.

The true disappointment is that it is so hard for new customers to get one :) even for someone who did in half-gold getting a steel one with the same AD at that.

It is not even one mm. It is more like half of a mm if u measure both

Shout out to Tekeshi’s Castle 👌👍👏

I think Rolex has done the right thing here. The old sub _was_ too chunky and didn't look as nice as the older iterations. It's a shame they've gone larger though - I think large watches look cumbersome and lack elegance generally. But I'll forgive them 1mm. 🙂

One thing no reviewer seems to have mentioned is how much more comfortable and balanced the new 41mm watch feels on the wrist compared to the 40mm. The reason is because the bracelet is 1mm wider and the clasp is also wider and bigger which stops the unbalanced "top heavy" feel of the 40mm that I found would "tilt" on the wrist due to the wide maxi case and very narrow, small clasp.

I feel I'm in the minority here but I love the wider lugs of the 114060 and the more abrupt transition between case and bracelet. I even like the chunkier crown guards more.

You guys should start seriously considering shooting in 4K! I personally love enjoying your videos on my monitor but at 1080p, things aren't the clearest they can be :(

I hope it’s the same case as with the daydate some years back.. don’t change the size.. stay true to the heritage and keep the 40mm..

Poor omega... 8:18 was a slap. In all fairness, they’ve continued to develop the Seamaster 300m and Speedmaster line with continuity.

The before/after image morphs did more to explain the changes than the dozen articles I’ve read on this. Thanks!

I think one of the production staff bumped into the press and measurements moved slightly, and could not be bothered to adjust them back because they did not keep a record.

Yes it is lol. I own a 214270 and altough I really like it is absurdly overpriced

I dont like the fact that they made it bigger because of the general trend in which the watches get bigger and bigger, but objectively it is very nice and the adjustment of the proportions work really well I hate to say xD

Until Rolex brings back the pre-ceramic case with all the modern, latest features, I will not consider buying a new Submariner. The 16610 40mm case was perfect; the only thing that needed an upgrade was the movement, bezel insert, lume, larger makers, bracelet, and clasp. The bezel's ball bearings are nice, too.

Next evolutionary step.... Have that magnifier on the underside of the crystal, maybe. Citizen and others featured this like 60 years ago.

Good vid, though it clearly didn't take *someone* long to flip their new Sub if Watchfinder have one to show us…

I just simply love the videos on this channel! The research is impeccable, comparisons balanced, views insightful, and the voice - the Johny 'Apple' Ive like voice with the calm, deep, restraint... wow! 🌟👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻

It's a beautiful watch...it will always be. Sadly it is far overpriced for those of us who want a watch, not a fashion statement or investment. With that said your videos are nothing short of amazing.

Unpopular opinion: I actually like the thicker lugs and crown guards of the previous model.

New Watchfinder video - sorry sleep you have to wait.

yup still not gonna pay something that's over the retail price. Gs owner here

Aah, about time this video happened! Love the channel, and greetings from Sydney!

I was about as anti diameter increase as you could get. But after getting this new Sub I was happily surprised. The size increase to 41mm is a nothing burger. The improvements more than make up for the very slight case increase. It wears virtually identical to the 40mm Maxi case Subs. Arguably the best Submariner ever.

Damn I took that shot at Omega personally🤣 but he wasn't lying either!!

Sure, the new movement and longer power reserve would be nice, but that's it. For anyone who owns a 5-digit Sub or even a 116610 or 114060, there's not enough here to want to sell and "try" to buy the NEW Sub.

I’d love them to bring a Sub out in 43 like the Sea Dweller 43...

Such clickbait. This redesign is a great success. The reprofiled lugs is a small yet huge improvement. The sub is arguably perfect now.

I'm not sure about the new size yet. The older model might be the one to go for but isn't always that way? People always want the previous model.

Rolex hit/fixed every issue of the Super-case and bracelet. Bravo Rolex for finally perfecting THE Rolex icon. Obviously the Sub41 will be THE most sought after model making it more rare than a unicorn.

Finally PERFECTION and is all thanks to proper PROPORTIONS

Reducing the lug width makes a bigger difference than you would think.

Really nice transitions lining up those seconds hand. Oh how much I miss Takeshi's Castle 🤣😭

Great video. You missed the crown designation between Swiss 👑 Made. But great video. You’re right. It isn’t a new watch it’s a nudge along to maintain its relevance as the king of bling. When you’re at the top, someone wants to knock you off your perch. As you say they have actually listened which might not be a first for the industry, but it’s certainly a first in a long while for Rolex.

Has the clasp been bulked up along with the bracelet? With my ceramic sub date first gen (now vintage I guess haha!) my only design concern was the somewhat bulky clasp housing the glidelock system. With another mm here and another mm there a more bulky clasp isn’t the best solution. I’ve never minded the chunky appearance of the lugs and the bulked up case or crown guards that just fits with the overall tool watch appeal hewn out of a single block of steel and quite masculine in appearance, but a bigger fatter wider clasp would bug me. They seem to have feminised the look a touch, made it one step closer to being a dress watch of sorts. Not that anyone actually dives in these ten grand watches. I say ten grand, those days have gone, try picking one of these up for less than north of fifteen these days and, quite frankly, as good as it is it ain’t worth its weight in solid gold. Next I guess they’ll be rounding off the edges and pushing it along to being a Yachtmaster and the original concept of a rugged dive watch will be lost. Mine is the last of the classic 40mm size and I’m more than happy to hang onto that sizing appeal, if I wanted bigger and bulkier I’d have gone down the SeaDweller route. Take a look at the 43mm SD, this is the same watch just a hair smaller. The aspect I’m most appreciative of is hidden away. The new gen movement. I have it in my Wimbledon dial Datejust 41 and it’s awesome. +1s per day and a ridiculous power reserve to boot. It’s a shame such a powerhouse movement resides behind a cap of steel in this world of glass casebacks everywhere. That could be the next step in the lineage. Overall it’s a decent incremental change but pushes the Submariner further out of reach for most everyday buyers, myself included. Rolex want the Patek crowd, they don’t want your business unless you’re driving away from the AD in a Bentley which is why I’ll most likely never buy another Rolex watch. And let’s be careful out there guys. You need a magnifying glass to see the changes. If you’re walking around a city centre wearing a ceramic sub then you are saying to criminal gangs there’s only me between you and a suitcase full of easy hard cash. Come and get it...

The upgraded moment and the trimmer lugs are changes I really like. Job well done Rolex. Now where can I buy one Rolex?

Did they raise the lug width from 20mm to 21mm? My collection of straps aren’t gonna work no more :’(

Very well presented & enjoyable presentation. Thank you 😊 Please Stay Safe.

7:28-8:00 same same.. but Different. I look forward to getting it in the future.

It's a great looking watch and I want one!

i bought my as-new Sub £500 UNDER retail in 2015 from WF when they were in the AD windows with BUY ME signs on them. Crazy days

I own both the 40 mm and the new 41mm they really are the same mot much differnt. Biggest difference is the increase in size of the bracelet and clasp

I convinced myself the sub was to obvious of a choice that I would never consider it, but this video makes me want one!

I’ve been on the waiting list for over a year for a black date, been informed by the dealer I can have my pick of black, green or blue due to a lot dropping off the list. Does that mean I’m not going to get the watch I was waiting for and the new one instead?

Well said. Thank you.

Meh, I'm still never getting a Rolex. There are so many other options out there that one can get right now without a markup that will make you happier in the long run. Rolex and the ADs will only stop playing their games if customers stop playing with them.

I did prefer to the box case and wide lugs thin bracelet.the new one looks so generic. There is nothing wrong with square cases and circular dial....those are much more elegant

Thank you for the beautiful review.

Sea dweller 43 is the greatest dive watch Rolex has ever made. The dimensions are spot on.

The 116610 looks way better imo... the new 126610 looks a lot more like all the other divers from other brands. The slight large lugs and slim bracelet is part of what makes a rolex sub and explorer at least, taking that away just makes it looks generic and not rolex.. At least for me..

why are these so hard to find? Did Rolex limit production to drive up prices??

Doesn't look like many people are disappointed about the new Subs when I look at the premiums paid in the grey market

I bought the 40m Maxi case Submariner from Watchfinder and l love it. Its the first Ceramic and the last 40m Submariner. 👌

Commercial success is not measured in terms of ingenuity or originality. It’s about manipulating the sense of value and status in the minds of the masses. A case in point is IPhone.

Any chance of other iconic watches other than the usual Rollie? JLC Reverso & Heuer Monaco to name but two

The changes are perfect.

Nice review, thank you, Watchfinder

My AD called last week with one I purchased today can’t wait for it’s arrival!

@8:09 Omega are you listening to the expressive hand guy?

I still think that seamaster 300M in that navy blue dial with the date at 6:00 looks better.

I would be chuffed to bits on the day when I get my no date sub. Ok ciao.

I really don’t get the bigger diameter trend 40mm is bearable tho

how about the 3131daytona how do it hold still rolex thanks for what you doing

Great video editing transitions for size comparison!

I´ve just sen them side by side. barely a difference and on its own, it's just the same old sub. On the other hand, the reason i could see them was to try and get an OP, Black Dial. "not this year, maybe next year but don´t count on it" I´ll take my money elsewhere.

I like the semi new design but the premium is just insane

Why is the luminous pip on the second hand still smaller than the one on the GMT!?

Thank you for this great video. Adequate content, good length and a nice voice. After a couple of years and a couple of watches I have managed to enter the cue and will hopefully be a proud owner next year. Let’s hope it’s worth waiting for :)

7:08 But this isn't a company! It's a charity!! (well, it is for tax reasons anyway)

I don’t see why it would be. This is what was expected for the new sub.

Watchfinder - where we dont bother to clean the watch before we do the macros if it's not a Richemont watch???

The printing on the dial isn't very good at close quarters. I don't think Grand Seiko have anything to worry about.

What’s the lug width on the 126610LN?

yeah, i'd like to see the sub go back to sub 40mm - not get bigger.

“New”

Finally, a proper 41 sub review.

My fav watch is the 1980’s Chopard St.Moritz 38mm leather version 😊