Id argue that the trip to Tallahassee is important to the growth of Jim and Dwight's friendship which, in my opinion, is one of the few highlights of the last two seasons.

It's simple. It stopped being believable. Before he left, the vast majority of episodes provided a feeling like this could be a real place. But then the writing just veered so significantly into the unrealistic direction that it just wasn't believable anymore and wasn't the show that I fell in love with anymore. I mean, shooting Stanley with bull tranquilizer, just giving one example. That would have never happened the first several seasons.

I think the reason why the Office was so good in the time with Carell was that these were ordinary situations with mostly normal people, and then Michael, this chaotic force of nature at the core, driving everything up to 11 and Dwight at his beck and call. After Michael left, Dwight seemed to lose the things that made him special, and everyone else was turned up to 11, to the point where even Jim seemed to have dissociated from reality

My least favorite episode is when the warehouse worker draws butts on Pam’s mural. It’s so dumb lol. And it introduces the stupid side-plot with the boom mic guy.

The episode where Cathy tries to seduce Jim enrages me.

I hated the “Mafia” episode. Dumb story and Andy bringing a crowbar into the restaurant is ridiculous.

After Michael left there was this big hole...in my heart and in the show. 🥺

Chair Model is great bc we get that final scene with Michael and Dwight jamming in the cemetery

The showrunners and cast talked a big game about how the show wasn't Michael. But I think they were motivated by the careers and jobs of the cast and hundreds of production staff. A great motivation. But it led them to say or believe ridiculous nonsense that Michael wasn't the heart and soul of the show. This is why, afterward, the show feels so listless, thin, and dull. They try just crazy stuff, but it feels like desperation or aimless wandering, not the purposeful, thoughtful, sophisticated writing of earlier seasons.

The show started being slightly worse after "Niagara". The golden age was from "The Dundies" till that episode. I'd call the period between "Niagara" and "Goodbye Michael" a silver age.

In my view, while Seasons 8 and 9 were shaky at times, they are generally pretty good, and probably much better than most people give them credit for. The show definitely gets worse, but I would also definitely say it’s worth watching all the way through. It doesn’t decline anywhere near as badly as Community did in Season 4, where almost everything you can skip. I also think that the decline kind of already began in Season 5 when Greg Daniels was replaced by Paul Liberstein (Toby BTW) as showrunner. To me, Seasons 2-4 are the golden age of The Office, then 5-7 are a little below that as the Silver Age, then 8 and 9 are the Bronze Age, not as good, but still decent television. (Season 1 is actually by far my least favorite season, sort of like a crappy prototype Office).

The worst episode is the one where Michael dines with the "Italian mafia boss"

No way The Banker is someone's favourite episode!

The episodes I have a problem with during the Carell era were Scott’s Tots (cringey) and Dwight’s Speech… post Carell the show “jumped the shark” and never really filled the void Carell left… how he never received an Emmy for the show is ridiculous.

Actually, the episode 8x23 "Turf War" is in my top 5 all-time favorite episodes of the whole show. I think that's a fantastic one. Lloyd Gross is just amazing.

No. It sucked after Michael left. He was the heart of the show.

I really like that Jim and Pam have a rough spot. It gives their lives more meaning and makes it seem less fairytale and more realistic. After all you can't be truly happy unless you've been truly unhappy. The fact they get through it and become stronger for it just shows how great this subplot is

I don't think The Office was very good after Michael left. But it isn't just because Michael left. The Office had a lot of good characters and storylines they could have worked with. There could have been some great stories focusing on any number of characters. Something just fell apart in Season 8, and I just can't put my finger on it. And then Season 9 went completely off the rails until the last handful of episodes when it admittedly ended strongly. Maybe too much emphasis was put on Jim and Pam when their story had peaked (followed by a marital troubles arc no one wanted to see). Maybe there were too many attempts at incorporating the rest of the cast into the storyline without developing them first. Why did it feel like we knew *less* about Kevin, Phyllis, and Stanley than in earlier seasons when that's not even possible? It wa slike having NOCs try to carry the stories. Or maybe they just ran out of ideas, which is why things just got so bizarre.

The office is so different after Michael Scott. That said, I love seasons 8 &9. It’s all good.

If anyone says they like Scott's tots I'm filing a restraining order 💀

The episode I hate most is when Dwight and Andy thought the insurance salesman was Mafia. Every regular character was beyond stupid in that particular episode. The character who also had inconsistencies big time was Kevin . Why that character was written the way he was in certain episodes made me feel like he was neglected in the writing. I also agree with you on the points you made on Andy. One more thing. Erin. That infuriated me on how much the kept dumbing her down. No growth at all, which made it puzzling when she’d occasionally make an intelligent statement. Ok… rant over for now! Thanks for your video! Great work!

This whole video was a set up to get to "Ed to helm the show"

I absolutely love "The Office" but no it wasn't as good after Steve Carrell left.

Started watching The Office through KZfaq and the clips I found the most funny and interesting were the ones that had Michael in them. By the time I streamed full seasons to watch most comment sections had convinced me that after Michael's departure there was really no point in watching. I've rewatched it 3 times now from season 1 through 7 and have still never watched an episode from season 8 or 9 just the occasional KZfaq clip

Robert California was the worst thing that ever could've happened to the office. Killed it for me. Loved them moving on so fast.

Andy’s Play is the ONLY episode I skip every time

I try to be someone who watches all the episodes, but whenever I try to venture past Michael leaving, I just don't like it and start the series over. I have only watched seasons 8 and 9 once through. I have no idea how many times I have watched the other seasons.

Favorite Michael Scott era episode: "The Injury" Worst Michael Scott era episode: "The Christening"

The banker could not possibly be someone’s favorite

The series 8 and 9 are not great, they had a lot of things to figure out, a whole lot of void to fill in for Steve, which is impossible. But that meant they tried Robert California, Deangelo Vickers, Nellie Bertram, Andy Bernard, Jim Halpert and Dwight Schrute. This was a mixed bag of people, some performed well and some didn't. All had their best moments, but not enough to be enough for Michael. What that meant though was the best moments of Dwight and Jim as a combo.

I adore season eight and nine. Yes, they have hiccups, yes, they are weird, and yes, the Michael Scott era is something golden. But seasons 8&9 get to be adventurous, they give the rest of the cast more growth and time to shine, and the finale of the whole series is just tremendous and so emotionally satisfying. I can’t imagine skipping the rest of the series after Michael leaves, there’s so much good stuff in the last two seasons. Also, Robert California is great, and I will die on that hill.

Just stumbled onto your channel and must say I’ve been enjoying the videos. Keep up the good work!

I still liked the Office after Michael left it wasn't as good but I still enjoyed it

My fav episode is Season 3s Benihana Christmas. Most think yeah its good but not the best.

My take… If they had tried to do at least one episode developing each character. So that I’d say Steve carrell left it wouldn’t leave a black hole in plot. Because unfortunately that’s basically what happened. Steve carrell was a major plot point in almost every episode. So when he left it felt like the show changed. With SNL actors have various roles where sometimes they get the spotlight sometimes they are the minor character. The office didn’t have that. They shifted to Andy being manager and the show suddenly truly trying to become an ensemble cast. But that’s something they should have tried to start doing in season 1 or 2. Where Dwight ans Angela might get A plot one week. Or Oscar and someone being involved as A plot. And rotate that around.

Worst episodes are in 9th season and the later half of 8th season , early half of 8th , 7th after Micheal left and 1st season are ok, season 2-7( till Micheal Scott presence) were the best

You say that everyone has a least favorite episode that could be someone else's favorite episode, and I would love -- LOVE -- to encounter someone, ANYONE, whose favorite episode is Vandalism. That is one of the worst episodes of TV I've ever seen altogether.

David Wallace was the best character for me.

Steve Carell WAS The office. Without him, the show died

15:35 What episode is that from?? Where it looks like Ryan and Toby are fighting.

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There's are some moment after carell left, season 8 was ok to a degree Season 9 on the other hand...

last season of the Office sure do show some parallels to the last Scrubs season, when they did a semi-soft reboot with some core characters replaced by young kids, some sympathetic, some not, but it was just too late to care about them.

Hate Robert California, hate Nellie, hate Pete, hate Pete's little tubby sidekick, hate how Andy's character became more and more insufferable, hate Jim & Pam's dramas, hate that Dwight's siblings are all straight. Michael packed up all the quality and and took it off to Colorado with him.

Great job posting that brand new 2022 mindy and BJ pic from the Celtics game this year - love it

Season 9, episode 17, The Farm is my lease favorite. The backdoor pilot completely failed for me and makes the episode unwatchable

It doesn't follow that, if there is reason to think that Hunter and Jan had an affair, therefore there is reason to think Hunter is Astrid's father. Astrid had to have been conceived at some point in Season 4. That means Hunter and Jan were still having sex after she moved to Scranton. It's one thing for a young man to sleep with his impulsive, aggressive, and, reasonably hot female boss in a large, chaotic corporate environment. It's another to say that they were devoted to each other enough to still keep it up when they lived several hours apart and she had no power over him.

One episode that always felt "off" to me was Livin The Dream. But I don't know why. It had most of the cast and some significant moments. Yet it just felt empty.

When my favorite co worker leaves work, things no longer feel the same, but I still care about everybody. Every co worker who stays and every new co worker is a valuable person that I have the opportunity to get to know. Just because Michael left and the show stopped being the same, that doesn’t mean it's not still worth watching, it just means I shift my focus to deepening an appreciation for the other characters. I've learned to love life even as it changes, and that includes my favorite shows

I thoroughly enjoyed the office even after Steve carell left. While I prefer seasons one through seven, seasons 8 and 9 have their shining moments as well. And as someone else in the comments said, when Michael left, it kind of gave some of the other characters time to shine. To me, the last two seasons aren't as good as the first seven, but they're not terrible by any means. And the finale really wraps things up very nicely. Although it really irritates me that Toby never got a happy ending. I really felt like that poor bastard finally deserved a win. And I'm in the super tiny minority of people that actually likes the character of Robert california. He was just so eccentric and weird and out of place, it really shook the show up in a good way for me. But yeah, the last two seasons of The office are just an extension of an already great show. There are some good little nuggets in both of those seasons. And while I don't watch them as much as the earlier seasons, I watch them more often than season 1. I still think that they help to continue the story of these characters that we have followed for so many seasons. and even though Michael's not there, I still enjoy watching these characters on their journey. So yeah, give me all seven seasons. And even though the quality fluctuates here and there, and even though the beloved character of Michael Scott is not there in the final two seasons, looking back at it all, I'm thankful for this series and I wouldn't change anything about it. Except for giving Toby a happy ending!

Top 5 Office episodes for me series 2-4. 1. Dwight's Speech 2. The Fight 3. A Benihana Christmas 4. The Negotiation 5. The Job. Not to keen on Andy heavy episodes but don't mind later series.

I thought Jim and Pam having troubles was a fine subplot. They have a few arguments, Jim hides that he did the opposite of what they agreed, Jim wants to do something better than his office job and Pam is struggling as a mom and supportive wife who feels she never pursued her dreams. This isn't "out of nowhere", it's entirely believable. Season 9 also introduces the element that these unseen camera crew are their friends after 9 years (remember Jim's smiling at his buddies when he learns he's going to be a dad?) and that also presents complications. It's the idea to have them divorce which is ridiculous. Like Cathy's pursuit of Jim in Florida...that just ain't happening.

The reason i dont like the show after michael left is because when he was in the show every episode made me laugh, but after he left i felt that the episodes where more about plot and that there was just this big hole. Altough s8 and 9 have a couple of funny episodes i thought the seasons all in all were super boring.

The office has 7 seasons

That episode where Jim buys the house and doesn't tell Pam. I think that one isn't good

i loved clark and pete, i really think the show could have lasted 2+ more seasons with Jim and Pam’s departure from the show. With a cast of Dwight, Angela, Erin, Pete, Clark, (stanley’s replacement), and the blonde lady in the finale.

I think the Office could’ve kept going if… the new faces weren’t Plop and Dwight Jr. They’re not strong characters and don’t hook well. Maybe they could’ve worked if season 9 had been about wrapping up what was left to be done with the existing main characters and then new people showed up in season 10

Roy’s wedding, prove me wrong America

local ad has got to be one of my favs and nobody else has ever agreed with me

Scott's Tots is probably my most hated

Yes, The Office is still good after Carell left. It's like when a hockey team loses their captain to retirement, or a trade. The rest of the team is still good, but they might not be as consistent for a while. Also, I liked your old backdrop better. The current one is like the classy Christmas episode: it's nice, but is it really Michael Scott?

Michael left i liked the reason in the story but it was sad

Best - The Injury Worst - Gettysburg

Did you like that preview in which the Minions took over the Office theme? What do you think would happen if the Minions interacted with the Office characters?

You really are Americans, too optimistic to appreciate certain things. Jim and Pam's troubles in the last season, the resolution and the message are golden to me.

As someone who watched the office 7 times here's my hot take: Robert California is funny as hell, he's impredictable, leans on that psycho, manipulator and gaslightning persona that we see in his job interview, and makes a good contrast to Michael, even if he's not the regional manager. He is a force of nature: "I'm the fucking lizard king" is iconic. But at times he acts like a real human being (The pool party) and is funny to watch him bonding with the rest of the office. Proving that when you get to know these people they bring the best out of you, just as Michael always said. I think he helps to give every other character of the office little moments to shine so I think he's a good addition to the cast. Also, James Spader.

I do both ways. I have now re-watched the series all the way through 3 times, 4 times if you count as they were being broadcasted on NBC. And then 2 times, skipping most of the 50 some odd ep. without Michael Scott. Taking a break, but would now only watch again by watching them all. Office is top 5 all time sitcom for me. My power five are: 1. 30 Rock 2. News Radio 3. Seinfeld 4. Office 5. Parks and Rec Mulverine, I love your channel. Been a sub for a while. Don't know why I didn't comment till recently. Looking forward to you doing more content, keep up the good work!

I enjoyed S8 and S9 but honestly, it felt like a very different show when he left and I probably didn’t find it as funny as it was in the earlier seasons.

No one likes the episode where they hint to Pam kinda liking the boom mic guy.

A lot of the stuff they had Ed do when he was manager was almost identical to the stuff that early Michael did

Wow. I’ve suspected for years- after watching B99 and The Good Place and Upload and Spaceforce- that everything that made Parks and Recreation a comfort show for me came from Michael Schur while everything that I simply liked or hated about P&R came from Greg Daniels. Knowing he wanted Jim and Pam to get divorced in the final season has me fully convinced.

Dinner party is in my top 5 favorite episodes.

The recap episode where? Gail from breaking bad has to listen to Toby and they just replay clips from prior episodes.

Least Favorite Office Episode: Angry Andy Runner-Up: Anything with Nelly post FL arc/Rob California centric episodes

Scott's Tots

Fave episode: Tie between PDA (s7) and S. Harassment (s2) 😂 Least Fave: Lecture Circuit (s5)

Least favorite - The Banker

I love James Spader, but I can not rewatch season 8. It just went no where. Season 9 was pretty ok though. I'm a season 1 to 7 person...yes I enjoy the 1st season. 😀

I really think Steve stepping away from the Office gave the rest of the cast a chance to step into the light. Kevin and creed feel like they develop alot more after Micheal left. I adore the office through and through both with or without Steve.

Any was sent away for so long in one of the late seasons to accommodate the actor’s movie schedule.

The season 6 episode “Mafia” can’t be anyone’s favorite episode

The one with the Mafia insurance guy and the one with the party at Robert California’s house

Whoever is responsible for deciding that Andy and Aaron broke up should be in prison for the rest of their life so they can’t hurt anyone ever again.

I stop after Michael’s plane leaves

Favorite: stess relief Least favorite: angry andy

Jim and Pam are like Peter Parker and Mary Jane, people freaked the fuck out at One More Day, and still rage to this day.

Season 5 was the best. I didn't like how they mishandled the new manager and Robert California. Didn't really care for the Saber era in general.

4:35 the fact that Scott’s Tots isn’t on this list is baffling

My least favorite episode is Mafia. My favorite season is 3. Least favorite is 8.

Robert California was awesome and so was Jim and Dwight Jr.

I love Michael, but I also like the show post Michael. I liked Robert Califronia. I liked Nelliw. But to me, the Finale is the best episode of season nine. It's my favorite episode right after "Traveling Salesman/The Return".

Season 8 is so bad, every character becomes insane, especially Erin that becomes insane and 10 IQ. Season 7 is also pretty bad, very bad, but Steve somewhat saves it. Season 9 it's just one of the seasons ever.

The Office ended when Michael left.

Scott's Tots.

I love season 8 and 9 but some episodes drag and they dragged Andy to the ground but I still really liked it. Jim and Dwight becoming more friendly was great. t The senator arc was great and is my second favourite arc (first is the Michael Scott paper company obviously). The episodes were hit and miss but I think the last 2 seasons are still great.

The Answer is YES. Because there is no Robert California if Steve Carrell stays. James Spader was masterful in the role & he is extremely underrated!

Season 2 Episode 4 The Fire. Bores me to death. You get the Ryan fire song but that's it 🙄

When the writers wrote they need to write based on the character s mould. Thus even writers changed the script varies in certain range. The office fell due to not bcoz of carels departure but of michaels. Proof i cant even finish quarter of any of ep in s8-9..i cant even watch most of them. Michael scott is the office he was and still is the main character. He remains in the poster n played in the office youtube. U cant really measure the decline based on on-air view rating. Its on reruns nowaday.

My least favorite episode is Scott's Tots. It is just too cringe for me and unlike a lot of episodes in the show, the episode did not really have any karma for Michael. That said, I think season 8 and 9 are different, but it was still a good show.

me personally I love S8. Probably ranks around #6 or 7 for me. But I'd have to really sit & think about it to be sure. S9 I used to hate, but it has slowly grown on me. But as of rn it's still my least fav