its not an obsession at all. its a convenience. and a qi charging pad isnt even expensive.

@user-zn4gt6lh2x most people don't use it, it's slower and people are used to wired charging from when phones came with them

@@azaz20244 it's a convenience but it charges slow, makes the back much warmer and I won't be able to use my phone while charging.

You know what's a bigger first world problem, Smartphones which cost >500bucks because it's got a processor and ram you'll never be able to utilize.

i dont care about 1440p, i dont care about 5 min less charging time, i dont care about better touch sampling or faster wifi, i dont care about 0.000000% better camera .... but i want to put my phone on the wireless charger in my office like i do with my 4 y.o. current phone .... LMAO

This comment is more insightful than their whole ‘discussion’

Marques did come out in this video as a fanboy who's using spec sheet to compare phones. Like I've seen bunch of camera comparisons of the OP 11 vs other phones, and it's above average at best when compared to the competition. What happened to speakers, software(especially that he always complain about OP's new software), suddenly he has no problem with curved screens, didn't mention speakers, the better software support you get with samsung, the better costumer service, and bunch of other stuff that he didn't talk about. I felt like I was watching a discussion about wireless charging, not actual user experience of both phones and why one is better than another

Agreed

damn. Maybe I trust mkbhd now so I was not even thinking about these. IP64 seriously?!!

Marques said that cameras are better one OnePlus actually

Yes exactly,there is a huge difference between the asian or i say indian and european or american markets in the way people use smartphones,wireless charging is not so necessary here for majority of consumers.

Not true for most asian countries. China, korea and japan have free wireless charging spots in alot of public places and people often use it.

@@MikeJones-dh1jo "most asian countries" stands true to his point. You mentioned just 3 countries, which is a minority. And most koreans use samsung anyways. The OP market definitely caters more to southeast asian countries where most families are lower-middle to upper-middle class.

Yeah but the S23 is still better. Gamers in India will get Iqoo 11 as that's better. The cameras on the S23 will improve significantly with updates because Samsung have streamlined their computational photography work by making the main camera on the Ultra have exactly 4 times the number of pixels as that on the regular S series. So updates will make the camera much better over time. Oneplus in recent times are bad with updates not just in terms of regularity which is fine but the quality of the updates. Things like battery life suddenly get way worse. It is not at all clear that Oneplus will fix the UI glitches and sus benchmarks whereas it is a sure bet that the S23 camera especially will be crazy good in six months time. And of course, Samsung have vastly superior customer service. I can see gamers rightly preferring Iqoo 11 but there's not much of a case for the 11 until it drops significantly in price to about 50,000 rs fairly quickly

@@jamespower5165 true buddy

I would 5W wireless charg over the 10W i currently chose to wire charge. If you have a powerbank you don't need fast charging.

80W for US model while rest of world gets 100W

Wireless charging seems like something you passively do not as a main way of charging

Oppo powerbank support OnePlus 33w dash charge. It's so fast.

I'm charging my 1+ 8 pro with 30w wireless charger and it's the only, convenient way I charge my phone so for me non-wireless charging phone is a no-no.

Plus wireless charging is still slow compared to wired charging.

My phone has wireless charcing too, but tools are a bit expensive here, a cable and adapter is way cheaper and sometimes ever more useful. And I use the phone with a cover that I dont like to remove often.

No no no no no..... The S23 has wireless charge, Samsung Dex, extra Samsung exclusive features, way bettering front facing camera, smaller form factor (some people appreciate that), better more consistent updates, video lock screen, better fingerprint scanner, ect.... Marques is really trying Soo hard to find the good in OnePlus when this brand died years ago...

I must be missing something, but I don't really see why people like wireless charging so much?

@@NukedAbe Well I never used Dex and never saw someone who uses Dex either. Samsung exclusive features are not things people wanted that much. Bixby routines are awesome,notifications and that custom themes are so stable and great too but no one would sacrifice 1440p 120hz screen for those. Smaller form factor isnt a good feature either, even iPhone 13 mini is cancelled and replaced with a Plus model. To me OnePlus made a good hardware, but software can be the dealbreaker for this phone. But thats all. If it has all the features you need, thats the phone to get Marques says.

I agree, but wireless charging is faster now. 50w for One Plus, but I don't dig the heat they generate. That degrades the battery quicker. No thanks. I'm not one of those dudes who buys a new phone every year. I need my phone to last a long time lol

Exactly! If I personally don't see a use for something, I label it a "first world problem", since my opinion is more important than everyone else's. I mean, other people couldn't genuinely have a valuable use for a feature I don't use, right?

@@Synthwave89 why are you so mad lol

Just the tech community

its for people who charge in their car or at their desk with a charging pad. its just a habit setting it down and having it charge.

Reverse charging, for earbuds or watch is convenient to have when on the go

@@mr.Sdotanthony good point

@@mr.Sdotanthony sounds like a first world problem to me. just how long do yall use earbuds??? working at offices with air conditioning and being able to enjoy good music from 9am-5pm??? we third worlds DON'T possess such luxury

You're missing the point of wireless charging. It's not a wireless replacement for wired charging. It's a different feature. Wireless charging is passive, while wired charging is active.

Perhaps... but I doubt it. It seems much more likely it was a willing sacrifice to cut costs rather than a calculated response to customers not using it. If there was significant enough data on that, then every other company wouldn't be pushing it into their phones (especially not Apple). OP has honestly lost their touch, and the internal issues of the company really reflect this as each iteration for the last 5 years has missed the mark in some major way.

Maybe you don't like wireless charging and it doesn't work for you and is slow. The fact is that nobody said that wireless charging is fast or superfast, but having wireless is convenient to have. I like that I can set my phone down, add some additional charge to the battery anytime while I'm home or the office...while saving wear and tear on the USB port. And with some of the new device and vehicle mounts from companies like ProClip USA, you can actuality charge your phone wireless. Wireless charging is about convenience and nothing else.... If you've had it, you don't want to give it up. OnePlus continues to disappoint, in having a crappy camera, using cheaper version of Gorilla Glass and eliminated the USB-C charging cable setup (which has become industry standard)

No, he's not missing the point. With that much fast charging, you're never gonna use the wireless charging anyway. In under 15 min, you'll get 50% charge.

Yes even while it's another and additional feature, with 80w to 100w charging it simply won't be needed when you can charge 0-100 in at least 30 minutes. Less if it already has some juice in it.

Lmao this dumb "first world problem" stuff. It's a $600+ device that you carry around and use all the time. Why the hell would you not want that to be as convenient as possible?

What if your USB c port goes faulty? Happens all the time

@@user-jw6yh4ev4n it should be repaired then.

Exactly. Like every car company is adding it into their vehicles as well. Just makes the car more expensive.

@@Striker50_ wireless charging coils are like $2.

@@DSP720 heat produced?, Area taken inside the phone? Cables to connect to the two batteries? It costs a lot more when you consider the whole package and design.

I don't understand this point, I want wireless charging it's not about speed at all

Definitely looking forward to daily driving it when I receive it... Too many people think if it's not an iPhone, pixel or Galaxy phone it's nothing and those are all great phones but News bulletin People, there are OTHER just as good and even better phones than those

Fast charger is something you can buy later on. But you can't easily add wireless charging onto a phone, if doesn't come with it.

@@IreshSenadeera why doesn't it come in the box and why do you have to pay for it when you are paying for a 1000 pound phone

@@deltadom33 that's not the point I'm trying to make. I'm annoyed at companies like Apple and Samsung removing the charger from the box (no matter what stupid justification they give). I'm just saying, not getting a charger in the box and not having an inbuilt wireless charging coil is different. One is fixable the other isn't. If wireless charging is important to you, you just have to frgt about the one plus completely, but if you don't have old charger at home, the iPhone or a S23 is still an option you just have to spend extra for a brick.

@𝖎𝖙𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎 But I'm sure your life was just as smooth back when you didn't have wireless charging. If they bring something like wifi charging on whatever where just waves charge the phone, you'll start thinking wireless charging was inconvenient. In actuality, just a plain USB type B cable would still be pretty convenient, not even a Type C needed.

@𝖎𝖙𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎 Yes after a threshold, the increase in tech is not proportional to its use. All tech isn't equal. The shift from horses to cars was a big shift. Shifting from normal wheels to alloy wheels isn't a big thing. Not all tech changes are as useful as the companies which make profit claim it to be.

how is your 10T doing now? I saw a second hand 10T being listed in my local community group now

@@lcly07312 works like a charm

I​@@lcly07312 I've had a 10T since they came out, still great. I miss the alert slider and the camera could be better but that's why I'll probably get a 12 when they're available. Had a 7T and an 8T, both are still working great also.

I'm using Huawei P30 till now. You are right, the zoom features is so useful not only in photography, but also to see something far away like a food menu or something. Sadly, you would probably have to pay for $1000 for a phone that could perform a good and far zoom now.

My s23 ultra has the best zoom capabilities I have ever seen on a phone.

You know what's funny. You can have 0 camera-software if your cameras actually worked.

@@Daniel-dj7fh Smartphone aren't DSLRs and they will never beat physics. That's why they need computational photography. OnePlus just as much as the others.

@@cedricol I forgot which phone it was, but it could just do a no shits straight photo with the built in module in a mode. And they looked really really good. Considering that I've done solid photos on my old Xcover2 with an 8Mp camera with probably 0 software. I'm pretty sure current cameras aren't gonna be that bad. Espeically with Samsungs' newer 50-200Mp cameras, the files will be huge, but they have enough pixels for the right detail.

@@Daniel-dj7fh the reason it could take solid photos is because of software

@@Daniel-dj7fh Look at the pixel's camera hardware and how much software magic helps the pixel 6a for example

Good idea, it's like another layer where a vapor chamber could be. You could have better cooling without a coil in the way. The coil is *insulated* too. That doesn't help cooling either

I own the S23 Ultra for 2 weeks now and I've been wirelessly charging it for at least 8 days in a row (extremely convenient when getting home with a low charge level and quickly putting the phone away or trickle charging it overnight with a Bixby routine). Both the battery and CPU NEVER exceed 38 degrees celcius even under the highest loads (games, installing or updating apps/system), under normal load it's between 26 and 32 degrees. It has both a wireless charging coil and a large enough vapor chamber which distributes the heat nicely and evenly across the touching surface, these 2 are NOT shared in the same surface. I can confidently say the heat claim is BS.

@@zaka2630 the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is a really efficient chip and it runs extremely cool. But in all fairness, the only way to really test it out is to somehow have an S23 ultra that does not have a charging coil and see which one runs at cooler temperatures.

@@antonio_luis the test will be completely irrelevant. The S23 ultra at this state already runs cooler than any other smartphone I've ever seen. Removing the coil will change nothing, I would still see the extremely cool temperatures while using the phone normally.

@@zaka2630 I know it runs cool lol. It's just a theory my friend had. And I'm curious to see if there's any truth to it.

In Europe we have 100w. It takes about 30 minutes from zero to hundred.

Eu version has 100w. It takes for me like 35 minutes from 0 to 100. Maybe even less manufacturer is telling that it takes about 25 minutes

But hear me out. Every time you're not using your phone, with some effort, you could be charging your phone. All you gotta do is place your phone at the right place. Effectively your phone will always have a good charge at home unless you've been using it.

@@Daniel-dj7fh LoL and that right place isn't with me everywhere I go.. .. don't have wires either but atleast don't have to use it other than time when I'm pooping

If you want a good ecosystem choose apple

If ur not an Apple person then Samsung has way better eco than other android smartphones

In my opinion, Samsung has the best ecosystem on Android, and after that comes Google Pixel in a hard second place.

This is a fact that people tend to overlook. If you have a Windows laptop, Samsung is your best bet now.

@@sandeepnath1609 exactly!

@itachi333 Well that's you. I'm talking about the majority. Most people don't even know wireless charging exist. US is not even their biggest market. It's countries like China, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, basically mostly Asian markets. So they have to set their priorities right.

​@itachi333so u got trapped into a wireless charging ecosystem and you are forced to buy/not buy a smartphone based on wireless charging?

That's why I bought the S22. The best form factor that's big enough (bigger than iPhone mini) but small enough to be an easy one hander and very convienent. There are a dwindling amount of small (ish) phones that actually have great specs - battery aside :(

You don't agree because you've already spent your cash on S23 which is overpriced lol. And OnePlus 7 got 3 major updates! Android 10,11 and 12ml. Which is more than what they promised and even the Samsung S10 series got Android 12 in april-may lol.

@@vishnuvijwani could have decided to spend it on the OP11 though.

@@vishnuvijwani never got Android 12 (which was not more than promised) and stopped getting security updates over a year ago. But it doesn't matter. It's just too big and wireless charging turned out to be more important for me in an more active lifestyle I have now. Having your phone dying on your bike equipped with wireless charging is more than just a stupid inconvenience.

@Patrick Hanft I get that you prefer a smaller phone. But with this battery and chipset, I think you may have been ok. Being on a bike, I'm assuming you aren't using the screen (unless you are using GPS an inordinate amount of time). So all you'd be doing is music streaming?

Every phone I've had has had wireless charging, I've never used it once. I'm in the majority that doesn't use it.

Theres Vivo x90 Pro Plus but not available globally, just letting you know :)

I'm currently rocking a Vivo 80 Pro and won't be buying another Vivo for the foreseeable future. Out-of.-the-box experience was extremely buggy for the first 6 months of use, until SW updates gradually corrected the issues. It's OK now, even if the UI is a little juttery at times, but battery life is awful. It's a miracle if I ever get to 5:30h SoT. Vivo makes great camera phones (the camera on this phone really is amazing) but the overall experience, for heavy users, lacks a lot of polish IMO. The X80 Pro takes AMAZING pics, they really fine-tuned the camera on that one. For the X90 Pro, I get the impression they haven't spent enough time adapting their algos to the new sensor, so if I were to get another Vivo, I'd probably wait for the X...100?

@@travsformation1 Rocking the Vivo X60. Not a fan of funtouch OS but can't complain about the performance and SoT as a heavy user (4:30 to 5 hours) given the battery. No lag or UI jitter experienced in 2 years of use. Had some issues with updates cand call drops though which have been resolved. Vivo/Oppo do not offer an unlocked Bootloader which creates a planned obsolescence. May consider Moto/Samsung/Nothing for my next phone.

@@ihsanmb Yes. Unfortunately, the pro plus is China only. Vivo should offer 4 years of software/security updates without gimping the performance.

what even is the "samsung user experience"

@@azaz20244 One Ui Slaps pretty hard. And is the only reason I haven't bothered with a different android phone. But if they can't make a solid a54 or 44, I'm switching to the pixel7 despite it lacking the 120Hz screen. Because the Pixel7 offers wireless charging and doesn't have some exonys chip from 3 years ago. And then hope google develops a cheap-ish heart rate monitor ring.

@@azaz20244 way better UI imo, and objectively better display quality. Sure, the OP11 is 1440p compared to 1080, but it simply looks better.

@@Daniel-dj7fh yeah swipe right in app drawer who tf does that 😂 it’s just so easier to swipe up and scroll in other androids for app drawer, imo color os is okay it’s not that bad people exaggerate it…

@@Daniel-dj7fh I think the only thing lacking in the A53 was QC and the processor. I have an A52 rn, and I'll probably upgrade to either an S23 or a Pixel 7. Still quite on the fence though.

U do sacrifice battery and screen size for it tho

I almost reached out to my screen to scare the fly off

How you finding it still going good? And is it really quick ?

It's still good?

I recently switched from my OP5T of 6.5 years to S23 Ultra. I knew I was missing on a lot with respect to OS advancements but man I was blown away. I was waiting all these years for a solid phone to switch from op5t because 5t is that good. It is still with me and it'll still be my secondary phone. But yeah you can swing with the s23 ultra or even s23 , you'll love the interface and the battery, Samsung has improved a lot.

S 23 makes more sense smaller size, ip 68 rating and regular software updates , better build

Pixel 7 pro is kinda the reverse one plus, all in on camera but with mid performance

yeah but the s23 doesn't look goofy, oneplus does.

Why are you looking to leave the apple ecosystem, was your experience with the iPhone 7 not great?

Go for a OnePlus 11 because it offers longer updates and has better display, better processor, better battery life and loads of features. Plus it offers more storage and ram

@@finechina1312 i have a Pixel 7 pro myself but the OnePlus 11 is a much better phone and I know cause I own it. With my OnePlus 11 it's way faster and the battery life can last me for 2 days and I got like 8 hours of SOT as well and on top of that it has way faster charging too. Also my OnePlus 11 works flawlessly on T-Mobile and Verizon. The OnePlus 11 has Esim so I have TMobile and Verizon on my OnePlus 11 and I get excellent reception everywhere I go plus it has longer updates than the pixel 7 pro so it's better to choose the OnePlus 11 over the pixel 7 pro. You're getting a better phone that's guarantee you to last 2 days and can keep it for years thanks to its years of support

If you want the best picture quality go for pixel 7 pro. Otherwise go OP 11, OP outclasses the pixel in every other department.

@@adityanair5340 if the person can don’t upgrade an iPhone for 7 years, tbh he/she is not really in the ecosystem

Is the camera good enough during the day?

@@perislav333what are u Christopher Nolan? , cameras are good enough for u

What's your review after 5 months please tell

Well right now the Oneplus 11 isn't on any US carriers and yes there are very few incentives to buy it, except the $100 off on the 256gb version. There are no incentives to buy the 128gb version that I know about. I think that is by far the best argument or criticism I've seen on here. I might be tempted to buy the 128gb version if there was an actual deal on it that I could use.

And when you try to trade in your current OnePlus phone to upgrade to a new phone, I've found that none of the cellular or phone companies will give you much in return. My awesome OnePlus phone for example MIGHT fetch me a $20 trade in credit if I'm lucky, and many retailers don't want the phone at all. Their phones have very little trade-in or resale value

By no means Samsung has less feature lol

The oneplus takes better pictures, i dont know what you're on about. And the software is full of features and way faster than samsung's. I can tell you because I just upgraded from a Flip4 to a Oneplus11.

​@@thisaintvlex I think the better photos will make me buy the One Plus phone

@@dishkaa93fcb10 nobody thinks the Oneplus takes better photos

@@manzinin1070 I do. Bruh

They're trying to market the "next big money maker" that's why and it starts with hyping it up wireless charging is dumb because most people want to be able to use their phones while charging

Bruh, if they gave all of this then it would cost the same as S23

Also no great ecosystem, lesser customizable ui, no astrophotography, thicker bezel, lesser brand value

@@modestman6753 Yes👍🏻

@@modestman6753 lol gcam for astro and........brand value 🤡.. you're buying a phone not company.. other than that yeah..

Technically it's IP64 rated, but I get your point there. I think only the no 4k front camera is the only real valid argument.

op,samsung both offers 5yr software support...android 13 good though

@@techteaserpro279 okay that's new then with the updates... I have android 13 on my OnePlus 8, i would downgrade to android 11 if i could.

Getting the OnePlus 8 pro was the worst phone purchase in recent years. Went to the s21 ultra and am way happier

Op11 is mad glitchy talking from my s23

@@lobsterstrange - Pixel 8 just launched with so many attractive features.. and I may want to reconsider I guess. !!

Get the OP12 instead after 4 months?

I'm no the same boat dude! Looking to upgrade my OP5T

@@ptbauroexactly

Should i wait for op12 or just buy op11?? How is your experience with op11 so far??

It is an incredible phone that looks like it will be one of the first to receive Android 14 next month, if you can get it for less than $600 you shouldn't hesitate@@YoRHa_SAIYAN

op12 will be very similar. l bought op11 and its amazing@@YoRHa_SAIYAN

Easy answer. Don't bring your phone with you when you go swimming. That is if you even do swim.

its a little too smal. 6.4 inch would be ideal with a bigger battery

@@dante19890 wait for S22 FE, 6.5"

@@jarubootangsanakul387 why would I want an s22. It's trash in comparison

I felt the same way as you when I heard the 2nd gripe. I don't want to accidentally open up apps for the same reason. Well done, OnePlus for this feature!

Ip64 is good against rain and dust but submerging under water is not.

gotta compare base to base, op 10 to op 11, not op 10 pro to op 11

​@@farasty7371 but there isnt a normal 10 only T and Pro

@@WaterPeter I figured lol, that's odd.

10 pro has usb 3.1 gen 1, not 3.2

The speakers on the oneplus are suprusingly crisp.

This is a very different type of breed of people who expect the best in quality

It comes with in every car in India.

With AT LEAST a 4100mAh battery.

Yea.... That pathetic 3900mah is surely a "great" thing