IS THE S55 CRANK HUB ISSUE A LEGITIMATE CONCERN?

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@fahadl786 2 жыл бұрын

Stage 2 for almost three years - no crank hub fix and its my daily

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear man!

@tigeralpha1480 2 жыл бұрын

How much BHP? 550? Do you drive it hard?

@fahadl786 2 жыл бұрын

@@tigeralpha1480 between 510-550 yeah its BM3 flash, of course i drive it like you should. Never kick down or tracked though

@maverickngoose95 2 жыл бұрын

Pump gas or E30 blend?

@fastmile 2 жыл бұрын

Same here bro

@cncmanufacturingptyltd5189 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid and great attitude it's all down to the owners responsibility after warranty finishes

@dwembree 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my POV - if you're going to mod the car and drive it hard, and you KNOW there's a possible failure point in the engine, it's a no-brainer. If you're keeping it stock and under warranty ... it's on BMW ;P

@digot92 Жыл бұрын

Great informative video. Just bought a 2019 M4 CS. I live in Charlotte, NC so I'll definitely have to come check out the shop.

@SkepticalVex Жыл бұрын

Yoooo lets goo, about to have CES work on my M3, My buddy works there and helped me get the parts I need for a 4N single turbo build I'm planning in the future. Glad to see you like CES. I feel good getting my crank hub and work done over there next month.

@buildindian8169 2 жыл бұрын

I am going to do the crank hub just because the guys selling the crank hubs have me hooked … The sales tactic has worked well for them similar to the s55 exhaust sound issues…

@STICKSHFT 10 ай бұрын

reminds me of my subie days when the head gasket failure was freaking everyone out. lots people with stock wrx/sti's were so concerned about blowing their motors and were afraid to tune their motors. i drove my 06 sti with upgraded turbo (plus supporting mods) pretty hard for 100k miles and never had an issue. but then i heard of subie guys supposedly blowing their low mileage motors just backing out of their driveways with nothing but a tune. i had an f80 m3 comp with dct that i was afraid to tune and left it stock. now i have a manual stage 2 f87 m2 comp. no issues with either car so far (fingers crossed). from what ive read if your crank hub is going to fail its going to fail regardless of state of tune. people want to place a finger on the cause (because thats just human nature) but the reality is its happening regardless if your stock or modded, manual or dct, etc etc. failures happen. but those 2-5% of people who are experiencing these failures are supper pissed and cry the loudest because they spent 60+k on car and are getting f***ed.

@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 22 күн бұрын

That's so true. I had the 2005 STi since new, and I drove that everywhere. Hunting, fishing, road trip across the world. I traded in for a 2014 370z Nismo at 167k miles.

@billybatts4061 11 ай бұрын

Beautiful car! I have a 2016 Mineral Grey M4 w 21,000 miles. Have had it less than a month and will probably get mine done at some point to avoid the worry. I want to get mine where it's around 600 to the wheels and I'll be totally happy with it! Love the car!

@johnmctigue1387 2 жыл бұрын

I still have warranty on mine, S55 is in stock form. Once it expires, I’ll probably upgrade the crank hub for the added piece of mind

@UnworthyMotors 2 жыл бұрын

Good call on the 2 pin! I went with the same when i did mine.

@Jbonly21 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, still need to do mine, waiting till I need a new valve cover gasket’s 🤞🏾.

@chinallue 2 жыл бұрын

thank you for the in depth information 🙏🏽. great job a s always.

@SO_S55m 2 жыл бұрын

My f80 warranty expired in April, so I upgraded my crank hub recently for all the same reasons you stated. Now I can enjoy the car without worrying. I chose the SSR.

@G20T Жыл бұрын

How much it cost to get it fixed?

@brandonshea4109 Жыл бұрын

It’s pricey like 2800

@TheDailyDriven 2 жыл бұрын

Well detailed video on the infamous crankhub issue. In my opinion it should be a factored modification/ preventative maintenance cost to give you that peace of mind. Especially if you plan on going to stage 2 or higher.

@pedromiguelF82 Жыл бұрын

That is also my POV. But in my case i dont want to drill the crank shaft. I'll bet on the MMR one piece crank and i wont be needing any drilling of the CS. I also have the Capture plate but for that piece of mind.. any way, great content as always. Regards from Portugal

@LiamSkateskinda 2 жыл бұрын

My two cents. I know a bmw tech who owns an m2 comp he knew of the issue and it happened to him. His m2 is aggressively tuned and tracks it and drives it aggressively.

@camarokidaj1978 2 жыл бұрын

I know you mentioned the crank hub upgrade cost varies which totally makes sense. I live 20 min from Charlotte and have a F82 M4 that's is running boot mod3 stage one. No issues so far knock on carbon fiber. I am also looking into getting this upgrade in the future and would definitely consider this local shop, would like to know what this job cost at CES motorsport. Great content hope to see your GTS out in the Queen City.

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

Give them a call or dm them, they’ll be able to quote you out 🤘🏽

@drew6391 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly , I think it’s so bad ass that all your videos since you first started KZfaq have been constantly good. But they get better and better every video. Quality wise and content wise.

@POVGOD Жыл бұрын

I have heard that the kickdown on dct's is what messes things up, the aggressive shifts put alot of strain on the hub and then it fails. Same applies to the manual, shifting too hard is essentially the same thing as the dct kickdown

@autobotras 3 ай бұрын

Does this apply for just downshifting manual? Or upshifting as well?

@jg_media9 2 жыл бұрын

Great video man 👍 it's definitely wild seeing some cars completely stock having this issue and then others upping the boost and literally having no issues. It's just one of those things that varies per car but when I get an S55 I will definitely be doing this upgrade

@bladejames8208 2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of 09 - 2015 Audi / VW 2.0t engines Bosch tensioner failure. Anyone who buys/bought an Audi/VW 2.0/ from those years, first question they are asked "has it had timing tensioner replaced with updated design?" VW/Audi never issued a recall on those either.

@adamwest5625 2 жыл бұрын

Man, your GTS looks 🔥 Looks soooooo much better than the G Series M4. The new M4 CSL is a visual mess.

@mushy1983123 2 жыл бұрын

I'm full e85 on stock hub almost 1yr now n I race alot I just don't aggressive down shifts

@dinosoarskill17 Жыл бұрын

I have had a '15 F82 Manual 60k miles no crank hub issue that i knew of. did throw a code once but cleared it.. and now an '18 with 38k miles manual, have not had any issues, BUT I also baby it.. A buddy just last week in Texas just messaged me about him thinking he spun his hub. he beats on it a lot and its auto

@DownShiftThrottle Жыл бұрын

Good knowledge share. Here in the UK it seems the same. Theres a lot of hype etc. I went for a crank hub capture plate, currently running stage 1 550bhp. Seems all good but I'm never downshifting aggressively. Obviously allow the car to get up to temps before giving it some 👍🏽

@popeyes7376 Жыл бұрын

all i’m hearing is i keep torque wrench in the back and check it from time to time 🤷‍♂️

@alexk3075 9 ай бұрын

Have you ever thought about upgrading audio system on ur gts or adding a sub, i have a 2020 jeep JLUR and it has an 8" sub from factory and it sounds way better my f82, i was thinking to add a sub, but i want a oem look to it

@M3_Foss 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2017 Comp F80 with 43k miles. I kick down quite a bit but lately with the crank hub talks as of recent, it's freaked me out a bit. I wish I had the $8k laying around to get this done. Thanks for the info!

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

It definitely should NOT cost you $8k. I suggest checking out some other shops.

@M3_Foss 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThicWhips I thought that was 2-3k higher than anywhere else. I don't have any shops around me, I would need to go to either FL, GA and farther up north. I still have a CPO warranty that ends in August. I don't plan to up the HP until after the crank hub upgrade and after the warranty expiration.

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

How far from Nc?

@M3_Foss 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThicWhips I'm about 5 hours from Asheville. I live in Huntsville, Alabama.

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

Would be a trek but CES can def get you sorted

@reallife4598 6 ай бұрын

So it sounds more like a maintenance issue . Check the torque on the crank bolt every time you change the oil. I’m looking at getting the F 80 M3 but the crank up bolt should I just get a M340i . how much to change it

@edhemkrkic3114 2 жыл бұрын

what people maybe dont know is that the N55 also can spin the crank hub. i have seen an m2(dct) N55 with upgraded turbo spin its crank hub.

@shaneguags 2 жыл бұрын

anything above 650+ can spin a hub with the N55. the majority are never getting to that point so it is very rare

@madmike5144 Жыл бұрын

It this issue due crank harmonics, i mean is this for due vibration. When use some red screw lock it should stay there

@ReginaldNazaire7 2 жыл бұрын

Im trying to choose between Vargas spline lock hub and the SSR 4 pin. Any reason people seem to mostly go with SSR vs Vargas despite the splines vs pin debate?

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

From what I understand, spline lock isn’t a 100% certain fix, while the pins are. This is just based off of what I’ve gathered from the forums and online.

@darylmorse Жыл бұрын

Great video and your car is very nice. Since your shop knows of 4 vehicles (or perhaps more by now) that experienced a spun crank hub, the questions I have are was the bolt still tight and was the hub still tight on the crankshaft? Not sure if it's still around, but there is a one piece crank hub that doesn't use pins. I guess its design is based on the premise that the problem is not the entire hub coming loose, but only the chain sprockets.

@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын

The bolt will always be out of torque spec if it spins. That’s how the friction disc lets loose

@darylmorse Жыл бұрын

@@ThicWhips Okay, that makes sense. Not having seen one of these hubs, I was wondering if the failure mechanism is caused by the washer wearing when the sprocket breaks loose or if it's caused by the hub rotating due to the bolt backing out. If it's caused by the washer, then the MMR hub could fix the problem without necessitating drilling the crankshaft. Not only would that eliminate irreversible modification to the crankshaft, which if done improperly, would be very expensive to fix, but it would also be easier to install.

@dominiccrompton5342 Жыл бұрын

In the uk get soikd cnub n capture.plate for like 800 900 fitted

@FormOverFunctionAutowerks Жыл бұрын

Anyone know averagedly how much something like this would cost in totality?

@boosted2.4 8 ай бұрын

Not sure if I want an f80 or f30 340i

@matheusgomes919 Жыл бұрын

That’s why I’m afraid of buying an m4 I gotta pay for the car and an extra few thousand dollar to get it fixed before even having fun with it? M4 is my dream car but it doesn’t make sense to me to buy it and either spend couple thousands on it or don’t fix the crank hub and having it failing on me after a while?🤷🏼‍♂️ I’m still debating if I should get. The f82 or mk5 Supra because of the crank hub issue

@aarondwyer6339 Жыл бұрын

I’ve only herd of it happening when you kick down and jump the motor to a super high rev My car with 68k on-a GTS tune never had a single issue but I also think it’s be cause of how I drive I never kick down I’m I’m going to a do a pull I simply down shit slowly till I’m at the rpm I want then hit the anti lag and we’re off

@LasersMcNichill 3 ай бұрын

I had F80 m3 since 2016. That's 8 years. Completely stock, never droven over 3000 rpm LOL. Never fixed anything. Now after I hear about the crank hub issue, I'm going to drive it under 2000 rpm LOL. Maybe I should just get a prius next time.

@Spicy_Tunah 2 жыл бұрын

@9:24 what is the billet cover on the front of the oil filter housing to the right of the cam sprocket holding tool? It kept jumping out at me as non-stock

@TCGTV98 Жыл бұрын

Thats a mosselman thermostat. I am using that on my N54 and that thing is gold asf. Keeps my temps on N54 in 90s Celsius compared to 105-120C on stock

@topfitness2755 Жыл бұрын

Yeah,there is a lot of talk about this, and a lot of different theories. I disagree about that it is horsepower related. When i ask people to explain to me how horsepower affects the cam drive system noone can give me a good answer. If you tune you S55, how does the tune itself make it harder/heavier to turn the cams and pump? How can that load up the drive chains more? Where does the extra resistance from a tune comes from?

@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын

Torque related would make more sense. But I’d say 99% of this is driver ability related

@CT-zc6ne Жыл бұрын

I have droven 160000km with S55. Top problems oil pressure at 100t. New bearings. Second. Fracture of the main block. 125t. Oil pump gone. Then overhaul. At 155. Gearbox quit. Now it's repaired I'm done. Swapped it to Opel gt Wich has no repairs for past 250t. And got cash back 12500e. Now I'm happy

@CT-zc6ne Жыл бұрын

And this particular one (Opel gt) has been updated to 525whp from the start. Driveability is also insane. And no shoppy buttons just power and rwd.

@CT-zc6ne Жыл бұрын

Never opened by nobody. I guess bmw flyes by its china picked parts and German money to me (manufacturer) gofor it appetite.

@BMWROYAL 9 ай бұрын

16:15 loved the video but going off the idea that if bmw doesn’t do recall that means it’s ok makes no sense, it’s more about money than anything. They did the calculation and realize it’s not worth it, it’s about money

@CapeCoralFloridaWaterfront 3 ай бұрын

Love everything about the car but the wing.

@asere_de_acero9632 2 жыл бұрын

Bro you just read my mind lol. I just got a 2019 m2c with 17k miles and ready to go stage 2 and i am freaking out if i should do it or not.

@benadams8525 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah man...stage 2 = you better do it. General consensus is anything over Stage 1 you're playing with fire. You might be OK though, it's up to you what your risk tolerance is, some people can easily afford $15k+ for a rebuilt engine

@cherryizaiah 2 ай бұрын

Is the crank hub a problem that B58 owners should worry about?

@ronintheamazon1492 Жыл бұрын

It’s worth 3-4k to drive the car without having to worry + it helps with resale

@bossman1744 2 ай бұрын

this crank hub issue is the only reason im not buying an M2 rn.

@EricShoots Жыл бұрын

Super late comment - just bought a 80k mile m4, would you recommend it on a stock car that has been babied it’s whole life?

@dinkleberg2013 Жыл бұрын

In reality, the chance of this happening is extremely low. It really hasn't happened to that many cars but people blow the issue out of proportion. I wouldn't worry about it but at the same time, I'd probably avoid really aggressive kickdowns just cuz. Enjoy the car!

@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын

Can you afford it? Are you out of warranty? Then yes. Just take care of it and you’ll never have to worry about it.

@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын

In reality, the chances of an accident happening are also low..but do you have insurance? Of course you do..this is that! Why would you not protect your investment if you don’t have a warranty and you can afford the pinned hub? It’s a micro fraction of what these cars are worth.

@floridaman964 Ай бұрын

I don’t think you need to drop the sub frame depending on which crank hub you get.

@ThicWhips Ай бұрын

If you are drilling into your crankshaft it is 100% wise to drop oil pan and subframe. Unless you enjoy metal fragments in your engine.

@floridaman964 Ай бұрын

@@ThicWhips I watched Spencer Berke’s video over on his channel and didn’t see him do it although I only watched it once. Is it because his isn’t a 4 pin?

@Advoflui 2 жыл бұрын

3M or Inozetek for roof wrap?

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

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@ItzEmmaunelworld_3 2 жыл бұрын

crank hub are notoriously know on F8X platform especially on the F80/F82 M3/M4

@mariusradu55 10 ай бұрын

Why not just a crank bolt capture?

@ThicWhips 10 ай бұрын

Because that does nothing to solve a spinning crank hub. A capture only ensures the bolt does not back out all of the way. But once a hub spins from a loose bolt, the damage is done

@ronin120 2 жыл бұрын

The Spot!

@UpMostt 11 ай бұрын

crank hub is real as a heart attack my shit spun back in February😂

@Bierklusen 2 жыл бұрын

where can i get the shirt

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

thicf30-store.creator-spring.com/search?searchterm=Crank

@Senninha1960 6 ай бұрын

For me, i will never buy an N or S55 due to this. If it effects only 3 percent, my luck says it will happen to me.

@claytonhenry5827 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t help but think how much better this guy’s car would look without a spoiler.

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

Just Google bmw m4. There’s thousands 😂

@oscarwirum3040 2 жыл бұрын

nah it looks great. wouldnt be a gts without it ;)

@ronin120 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThicWhips savage

@chisha8415 Жыл бұрын

What happens if the crank hub breaks?

@xlugoz Жыл бұрын

Death

@gabrieljacoboosorio1928 Жыл бұрын

if it spins your pistons and valves will crush, you’ll pretty much have to rebuild or buy a new engine. Looking at around 10k+. Rather spend the 3k on the fix

@juras325 Жыл бұрын

@@gabrieljacoboosorio1928 Stop spreading more fear than is has already been spread. Chisha - 90% of spun hubs result only in the need of retiming, not a complete engine fail. You retime and install an aftermarket hub then. Stop panick. Enjoy the car.

@Chrisjassoo 2 жыл бұрын

I need that shirt

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

thicf30-store.creator-spring.com/search?searchterm=Crank

@firasalbalushi3673 2 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍🏽

@jrs8709 Жыл бұрын

Don’t believe everything you see in these KZfaq videos. Find actual factual advice from professional drivers or race car mechanics that actually push the limits on these cars. Your rear differential seals or turbos will first go bad before you ever have any issues with the crankhub.

@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын

Everyone should always do their own research, no matter what. Our opinions or suggestions are based on our experiences and each of us will have our own. I’m just here to share mine

@SelectaRegulator Жыл бұрын

Are your wheels satin or gloss?

@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын

Satin

@SelectaRegulator Жыл бұрын

@@ThicWhips Thats cool I got satin on my f80 I got a stage 2 on mine just downpipe and bootmod3 did u have your s55 tuned before or after crank hub and how many miles did u do if u did before your fix im getting mine down in January just wondered if im safe?!

@karholic8571 2 жыл бұрын

It’s only legit when it happens to someone……I would not risk it.

@SandsNmysteries 2 жыл бұрын

Dude what is it with the park bench wings bro

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

That’s where I eat lunch

@quickhandcam8596 2 жыл бұрын

Manual? Maybe not if you have a capture plate. DSG? Absolutely. It's not IF but WHEN it'll happen. EDIT: Let me clarify, if you plan on tuning, get it done no matter what you have. Stock then it's not as big of a problem.

@jordann7526 2 жыл бұрын

E30 content when?!

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

Soon

@BMWROYAL 9 ай бұрын

5:07 why are you at a shop 2 -3 days a week

@ThicWhips 9 ай бұрын

Because I work there.

@BMWROYAL 9 ай бұрын

@@ThicWhips ahh ok that makes sense

@pretzel59 2 жыл бұрын

the one reason why I didnt buy my M4

@ThicWhips 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t let the hub hold you back from s55 glory brotha

@thewanderer5124 Жыл бұрын

Same sadly. Just bothers me how I have to fix my car before I can upgrade it. I’ve been leaning towards an M6 instead.

@TheKaostaz Жыл бұрын

The tails is too high,not original GTS

@ThicWhips Жыл бұрын

blaaa blaaa

@TheKaostaz Жыл бұрын

@@ThicWhips 🤣🤣🤣 you make my day.! We all have different tastes… the car is beautiful, I have a M4cs and a love it.

@Dwit2EEs Жыл бұрын

In my opinion, precision dynamics has the best CH I've seen

@commantrosexetlos4700 10 ай бұрын

You all owners hide it so you can sell your cars..its a huge huge real issue ..here 8n my island 60% of all S55 had the issue ..the value of high miles used car will go down like titanic