Is the Seestar S50 better than the Dwarf II? Side by Side Full Review

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Dwarf II vs SeeStar S50 Smart Telescope Comparison side by side, where I Review this telescopes with @EmberSkyMedia, looking at how they perform on Deep Sky Astrophotography, Lunar / Solar imaging & Scenery(landscape, panorama, birds, wildlife photography) so that you can decide which Smart Telescope is right for you. Collaboration video between @GalaxyArtMedia & @EmberSkyMedia Check also @EmberSkyMedia Channel! #seestars50 #dwarf2 #smarttelescope
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Chapters
00:00 Dwarf II vs Seestar S50 Size & Ease of Use
03:17 Seestar S50 Deepsky Results Sky Atlas & Seestar App
04:57 Field Rotation Dwarf2 Equatorial Mode
05:37 Dwarf II vs Seestar S50 Deep Sky Results
08:05 Dwarflab App IOS & ANDROID
09:05 Dwarf II vs Seestar S50 Jupiter
09:54 Dwarf 2 vs Seestar S50 Lunar & Deepsky Fov/Resolution
13:09 Seestar S50 vs Dwarf II Solar Filters
15:11 Seestar S50 vs Dwarf II Deep Sky Filters & Adapters
25:37 Dwarf II vs Seestar S50 Battery & Sd Card
29:56 Seestar S50 vs Dwarf II Solar/Lunar Part II
33:36 Seestar S50 vs Dwarf II Solar/Lunar Transits & Manual Controls
36:05 Solar/Lunar Conclusions & Processing Tips Dwarf 2 vs Seestar S50
38:43 Scenery, Birds, Wildlife, Travelling Seestar S50 vs Dwarf 2
41:40 Dwarf II Telescope Panorama Mode
42:48 Conclusions Dwarf II vs Seestar S50
44:19 Dwarf II vs Seestar S50 What Telescope Should I Buy?
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@gloomiehoodie 3 ай бұрын

I ended up going with S50 due to higher magnification and quality image. With the S50 I can use mosaic to get larger area, but I can't solve the Dwarf low quality image due to its limited magnification and tiny aperture. I would be nice to have these smart scopes with larger aperture and removable lenses allowing the users to buy lenses and filters for different situation.

@Rummzzeee 6 ай бұрын

Thank you guys for making these videos they’ve been really informative and helpful !

@GalaxyArtMedia 6 ай бұрын

Your welcome 🤗 glad you enjoyed watching the video

@FOM1 7 ай бұрын

Great video Ioan and @emberskymedia I will buy the Seestar S50 first. Thanks for the hard work y'all put into this video.

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Mark! I am glad you enjoyed watching!

@mamertobernal4460 7 ай бұрын

Thank you, watching as undecided which way to go.

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Your welcome is a very thorough review and me and Graeme debated on the all important aspects and showing in the same time the results i got with the two telescopes

@TT-gm2di 4 ай бұрын

Amazing video gents!

@GalaxyArtMedia 4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed watching

@wilduc7302 7 ай бұрын

The S50 has better optics and app, but the D2 is a nice portable and versatile scope. The new D2 app will surely make it even better to use.

@EmberSkyMedia 7 ай бұрын

Ioan has been testing out the beta on Android and is quite impressed with the improvements, they are still improving the beta on iOS (what I'm testing) and they have added a lot of improvements, particularily unlocking the 4K (no binning) which makes its a really high resolution imaging device.

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

The portability of the dwarf 2 is top 1 of telescopes on the market, now they are upgrading also the app with new software updates. Glad you enjoyed the video!

@MrCornweda 7 ай бұрын

Also the field of view of D2 is great for Andromeda galaxy, flame nebula with horsehead nebula together, Orion Nebula and Running Man nebula together. SeeStar field of view is too small of field of view for a 50mm telescope. But the price is amazing for SeeStar. Hopefully they will make a SeeStar pro with deep sky camera and not a planetary camera. The small field of view is made even smaller when you have field rotation due to Alt/Az mount. At least the field rotation can be eliminated on the D2 by polar alignment on a tripod. The SeeStar requires the device to be horizontal aligned or software will fail initialization.

@EmberSkyMedia 7 ай бұрын

yes, there are some clear pluses in D2 corners for intro DSO objects with its wider field of view @@MrCornweda

@EmberSkyMedia 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for having me as a guest Ioan, if anyone wants to see my detailed videos about the Dwarf II or SeeStar S50 be sure to check out my playlist here: Start Your Astronomy Adventure with the Dwarf II Smart Telescope kzfaq.info/sun/PLYE6Mg5t2BSE--_HNudNWMokJDG9ViSfl

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Your Welcome Graeme. Was nice to make this video collaboration with you!

@mamertobernal4460 7 ай бұрын

Subscribed. Thank you for the link.

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

@@mamertobernal4460 Your welcome. glad you enjoyed the video!

@gloomiehoodie 3 ай бұрын

@mpaczkow 7 ай бұрын

I decided on the Dwarf2 because I can travel with it easily. I also like that it has a wide field of view. the new software looks like it will address some of the limitations of this type of telescope. If I want higher quality deep sky but still want portability, I would save up for the vespera pro. but the seestar was impressive for the cost.

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Glad the video helped. If you want to support the channel you can click on the affiliate link with the dwarf 2 in the description it will give you also the best price available on the dwarflab website

@Rubik3x 7 ай бұрын

I've seen some fabulous images of deep space objects with the Seestar S50. How does it deal with field rotation during hours long timelapse shooting of deep space projects? Auto stacking rotation?

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Hello, usually if you image more than 1 hour field rotation will start to be visible sometimes even less, you can check the chapter of the video with field rotation i have a time laspe video there how seestar field rotation starts to be visible

@icecorebaby 7 ай бұрын

Hey guys I have a celestron nexstar gps 11. I was looking at the seestar or the vaois vespera. Which would you go with? The filters you have to buy separate for vespera are kind of expensive but I heard there filters are better than the seestar.

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Hello. I think the Seestar is a better choice considering price/ performance. I will share soon the image results on the channel membership folder available to download starting the nebula plan

@aaronsmith7415 4 ай бұрын

You can print out a 2 inch filter attachment now from printables. Would help solve the problem I think.

@GalaxyArtMedia 4 ай бұрын

That is very good

@user-zv8gs3qw9c 6 ай бұрын

Hi , I would like to know for the next total solar eclipse in Mexico, if it is possible to make a two-hour recording with the Dwarf or Seestar or if you have to use time lapse ? How much is the maximum video duration for them ? Thanks

@GalaxyArtMedia 6 ай бұрын

Hello. The duration limit will probably be the memory card..be sure you clear.thendata on the seestar before starting. Seestar currently has better tracking and would be a better choice for a long timelapse. But i have not tested yet solar tracking on the dwarf 2 after the new updates. Might be good as well for.the next solar eclipse. Will make an update video when i will be able to test

@ravzir 7 ай бұрын

How do these two work in cold weather? Do they work in sub zero temperatures? What about condensation?

@EmberSkyMedia 7 ай бұрын

Hi @ravzir, I've tested the Dwarf II down to -27C ( kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e85xo7OJy9y5mYk.html ) and both units have dew heaters to avoid condensation. However the colder you go and using the dew heaters installed will reduce their operating time (unless they are plugged in) and I'll be testing the Seestar S50 in colder weather as winter moves in (currently I've tested -5C so far).

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Hello, Graeme already replyed, but yes, they work fine under 0, trhe dewheaters work good. just watch for the baterry better to be charge outside if you want to image longer time

@dow4hurst 4 ай бұрын

So, there is no possibility of polar aligning the Seestar 50 at present? And is it due mainly to the software requiring the scope to be level? Certainly it can physically polar aligned like the dwarf.

@GalaxyArtMedia 4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately Seestar does not support equatorial mode and it wont work good if you try to polar align. It needs to be leveled with the ground and in equatorial mode it will not be anymore

@NathanMcClellan 7 ай бұрын

The D2 has a 8 Megapixel vs the S50 with a 2 Megapixel, How does this affect thing in Astrophotography? Does that not give the D2 a lot more zoom/crop on the image?

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Hello. If the pixels would be the same size then having more pixels means larger sensor and larger field of view and less pixels will be smaller sensor and a cropped zoomed view. Dwarf will give a fov equivalent with a full frame dslr at about 675mm. And the seestar i think about 1500 mm without cropping the image

@BrianKushner 3 ай бұрын

I did buy both.

@GalaxyArtMedia 3 ай бұрын

You eman you have them both?

@43lk 7 ай бұрын

Awesome tutorial, you just made me new Dwarf II customer. How can I be sure this is the new version (better charging) so I can connect my power-banks?

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Hello thank you. Have not sleep for 2 days to finish this long review. I think if it charges better is the new unit.

@EmberSkyMedia 7 ай бұрын

At this point they are selling only the new units. The first round of units (what I got) was 6-9months ago when they first game out.

@Yoda1DaBestest 7 ай бұрын

What would you recommend for total solar eclipse photography in next April?

@EmberSkyMedia 7 ай бұрын

SeeStarS50 as you’ll want to record the eclipse as a video. But I’m exploring a proper 2” adapter for a proper solar filter as I’ll be right under the eclipse.

@Yoda1DaBestest 7 ай бұрын

@@EmberSkyMedia can you take photos simultaneously?

@EmberSkyMedia 7 ай бұрын

either or@@Yoda1DaBestest, but for the sun the video is basically a series of photos as you won't be taking long exposures.

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Hi @Yoda1DaBestest ! I think for video and timelapse captures you will get the best quality with the Seestar S50. I just tested tonight the timelapse video mode of the sun but on the moon and tracks very well, at the moment better then the dwarf2. The only disadvantage with the seestar is that is harder to find the sun compared with the dwarf. Hope this helps to decide, and if you want to support the channel you can use one of the affiliate the links in the video description

@peterwendelken3722 4 ай бұрын

sorry mein englisch ist nicht das beste,ich besitze 2 dwarf2, nutze sie auch wenn das wetter es zulässt,bin mit den ergebnissen des dwarfs sehr zufrieden und dank eurer unterstützung bei youtub was ihr übriegens sehr klasse macht,mache seit vielen jahren astronomie und bin von der leistung des dwars echt überwältigt,keine stackings mehr mit grossem aufwand,live zu sehen wie das bild ensteht,einfach wahnsinn, aufbau meiner sonstigen ausrüstung mit guiding usw,hat viel zeit in anspruch genommen,jetzt mit dem zwerg in minuten alles erledigt, im warnen im sesel sitzen und alles läuft,macht weiter so,ich liebe eure videos,lieben gruss aus bremen ,nord germany und clear sky🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

@GalaxyArtMedia 4 ай бұрын

Hello and thank you for the appreciation. Dwarflab also made some new improvements that I suggested in the last update: different names for astro fits so you can stack images from multiple nights without having to rename them and also correct white balance for lunar livestack. Will share soon more of my results with the dwarf 2 on the channel membership along with other telescopes data. Wish you clear sky and a nice time imaging with the Dwarf 2

@dennisrogers6786 7 ай бұрын

With Seestar solar filter its so easy to put your finger through it. Thats that happened to me. trouble is any pushfit filter holder will not be 50mm, as the aperture is only the same size as the lens 50mm, and a push fir filter will not be 50mm aperture, so reducing performance slightly. The should have a screw thread, so you could just screw in filters

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Yes a screw thread would have been much better. Slightly will reduce the aperture i guess with 2mm if you will use filters in front.

@dennisrogers6786 7 ай бұрын

the beauty of D2 is any filter your not reducing your aperture like Seestar when adding filters

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

True. Using filters on the dwarf is easier.

@richardparrott7192 5 ай бұрын

So, best thing is to ask my wife if I can buy both? 😄

@GalaxyArtMedia 5 ай бұрын

Good ideea!

@alfred026 7 ай бұрын

First 👍

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. If you have any questions feel free to write them in the comments

@EmberSkyMedia 7 ай бұрын

Second??? Or maybe Zero as I was in the video??

@aliens987 6 ай бұрын

My friend and I saw a completely different night sky through ordinary binoculars. It was absolute light, consisting of all sorts of blue, red, light stars and others, and only in certain areas there was little blackness. How could this be?

@GalaxyArtMedia 6 ай бұрын

I do not know

@aliens987 6 ай бұрын

@MrAbletospeak There are no photos because we looked through binoculars.

@aliens987 6 ай бұрын

@MrAbletospeak Idle time I know that this is possible. Like a time machine

@aliens987 6 ай бұрын

@MrAbletospeak Yes, a completely different sky was visible, bright and light from a billion stars. It was a long time ago, then we explained it with special binocular lenses, but time passed and more, we didn’t see it no matter how much we looked. Obviously this is a coincidence of circumstances or someone just showed us it as it is. But we know it's possible

@andysPARK 6 ай бұрын

Bortle 2? Show off ;p

@GalaxyArtMedia 6 ай бұрын

He is in bortle 2/3

@nikaxstrophotography 7 ай бұрын

Neither not for me

@GalaxyArtMedia 7 ай бұрын

What telescop would be for you

@nikaxstrophotography 7 ай бұрын

@@GalaxyArtMedia I have proper astrophotography equipment not toys, this would be good for beginners or for school camps but not for serious astro.

@davidtotten3042 7 ай бұрын

I got bad news for you. Your high end equipment is a toy too. Between my planetary, deep space, and solar scopes, I have well over 10,000 invested. And they are all toys. Unless you’re doing serious research with them, they are toys. The seestar has its place, as has been proven to be a wonderful teaching tool. Hey! Doesn’t that make it a tool and not a toy?

@nikaxstrophotography 7 ай бұрын

@@davidtotten3042 your defintion of toy is wrong I'm not here to debate the issue I answered a question and justified my opinion that is all. For ME these little gizmos are not serious astro tools as for you I don't care what you think.

@EmberSkyMedia 7 ай бұрын

If you are already intermediary or advance astronomer then your existing gear will get better results for people starting out these scopes allow them to leap frog what took me years to get similar quality images.