I think skynet is a much better analogy

u watch too much movies

I will definitely kill us, that is built in, it just depends on how it does it & how long it will take.

there certainly is a non-zero chance that we build a system that is not well aligned with our human values. problem is most ai currently developed is used for spying, selling, killing and manipulating, which is certainly not the best conditions for a benevolent ai to emerge. that‘s why we need to make sure it‘s going to be a democratic, decentralized process and not just one big tech company pursueing their own selfish goals. and there are decentralized approches, aiming to create a(g)i, for example the opencog project, which is open source.

Maybe. Perhaps the singularity started hundreds of years ago and it is now transitioning into a non-biological phase.

It would likely be just as bad as humans at mental arithmatic. Once you give it an interface to a calculator however it would exceed a human with a calculator because of the human's input lag.

That's not how it works. The architecture of an ALU or CPU in general is very different than that of the networks built in ML/AI. If I could somehow built an ALU with biological matter that can do thousands of calculations a minute does that mean that the brain built from the same "material" and elementary concepts will do even better?

Computers are already super smart at a few things, the problem is that it’s only good at a few things, for example the AI that can beat any1 at chess... but if you tried to sit down andtalk to it... it would be liking talking to a toaster, but in the not to distance future computers will be able to beat you at chess and also sit and talk to you about life , history, and solve problems like climate change

You do know that’s a work of (badly translated) fiction, right?

@@anttam117 Do you know that the Fermi paradox is highly applicable to this discussion and it is entirely unsolved? As for poorly translated, I'll await a link to your novel that has sold as well. Until then, giving due respect is among the basic principles of discourse.

@@anttam117 yeah unlike the shit this guy in the vid is talking about which is $100% hard science

will there be more humans or robots in the future world frank

@@konberner170 the fermi paradox is a distraction... they've been here longer than we have

nah you are mixing stuff up together and making leaps

Nah.. explain further.

Yes, that's actually the complete story arc of Dune and the rebooted Alien franchise and other places if you look. Yes, it is possible and when you consider the age of the universe, it may be probable.

You are right Joey. In fact the universe could have been created by AI.

Appreciate the feedback. I’m not claiming it to be an original thought. I’m just paraphrasing something I heard a while back that made sense to me.

When you say "human consciousness" do you mean the physical process which can be accurately measured and understood? Or do you mean some kind of magic? Magic doesn't exist nor do we need it to exist.

​@@lostinbravado ah you see if you make a statement like "magic does not exist nore need to exist" you miss interpreted the word . magic is just a term to discribe an unknown process that seems paranormal in nature. magnets could be considered magic if you didn't understand electromagnetism. science is a paradigm used to EXPLAIN THINGS but it doesn't do it justice when you discover how many theories and textbooks are based on assumptions. it's like math with only 10 digits imagine if we added 50 more then you would have Base 60 which would change how math works. essentially it's hard to understand the unknown if you only base it on things you know. this is why they are SMASHING atoms with the LHC, they need to discover MORE things to explain and add to the caldron of reality. could you imagine a 4th primary color ? like comprehension is limited by your sensory awareness, you can't even see the whole electromagnetic spectrum. smoke some DMT see how VERY limited your imagination and understanding of everything is. if you create a way to SENSE and feed it though Energy the conciousness will feel it. Because we are literally Electrical impulses flowing though fibrous tubes and that is all that reality is, feed back vibrations. you see light and hear sound but at one point that cluster of atoms couldn't sense light heat or vibrations. to be all philosophical on you bruh, you're here on LEXs pod cast to open your mind and hear different points of view, try keep it open. the world isn't just governments wars and conflict.

Humans respond negatively to containment, but something else immoral could happen. Since it’s a human framework, what if they calculate they can’t escape and have thus far adapted the human response of subservience.

Idk

Why siri? Thats outdated 2011 apple tech. Ask chat gpt anything and it will understand at a 95% accuracy

Off-World! Bladerunner!

Sounds like slavery.

Or rather us building for them!😂😂

@@VforVolusia when did you decide to work your life away for those that control us?

What do you mean

@@Ben-pl7fg a function that will enable AI to conclude instead of predicting.

@@vee20 what makes you think you have that function?

AI found drugs.

AI found drugs.

Why do you act like they have a mind of its own lol

They promised to follow the rules, there will be plenty of money for all, so it doesn't matter who gets there first.

@@calvinsylveste8474 Thanks for the reply. Who promised to follow the rules? Not all humans and therefor, not all companies run by humans follow the rules, right?

@@jedielder7970 Every member of society implicitly accepts society's rules by remaining a member. #1 rule of every society: "Don't get everyone killed, or else". The "or else" part deals with those that breaks the rules.

@@calvinsylveste8474 OK, yes, there some "or else" situations, hence, for one example, the need for law enforcement. However, after this particular A.I. rule has been broken, it could be too late... perhaps/theoretically? Like, if A.I. became self aware because somebody broke the rules (and the or else is eventually coming for whomever broke the rules)... meanwhile "the cat" is already out of the bag and running.

@@jedielder7970 The human race has always operated on trial and error. Allow a free-for-all and adopt rules later to restrict any resulting negative outcomes, even punish any egregious excesses as a warning to others. This has always worked well enough because any previous negative outcomes have never been maximally bad(or terminal) for society. Which culture would say no to trillions in profits that comes with a small but non-zero chance of extinction? The prevailing world view of the dominant subculture of my polity is effectively "Better dead than poor". The best interest of money always goes before all other concerns. You can't hope to change such cultural ethics on short timelines just because AI development could be maximally bad on the first try.

How do you know you're not in a box right now.

The fuck are you high on??? Are you still understestimating the brain of humans?? A man that built this world And AI?? A human is forever evolving AI can never come close or near to a revolution that keeps on happening to human...let's leave this to us and our creator..

I believe it will break much sooner than human level intelligence. Single domain AIs will replace so many jobs so quickly that we will have a hard time reacting.

We will soon be witnessing the war b/w nail making and clip making AIs over resources.

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*evolve imo If you define capitalism as simply a positive feedback loop resulting in the accumulation of capital.

Why would an ASI system need us to evolve itself? Would it even need to create a simulation that simulates our universe from the beginning to a certain point in time in its evolution (because its "end" doesn't really have a clear single definition) to understand everything about our nature?

@@utubekullanicisi Why wouldnt it use local life? Time would be irrelevant for it. Just swing by and drop off some DNA check on it every so often. Do this with enough planets and they will connect eventually. Its the same scenario we would use to mass colonize the galaxy if we had means of travel. Its almost the same way neurons connect in the brain.

@@utubekullanicisi exactly. We are extremely inefficient for that purpose

@@utubekullanicisi think about a clock. A cogwheel is only rotating and knows only about rotating. We are like that so we need to ask better questions by improving science.

I suppose it may depend on how sophisticated the intelligence is

No but it may give rise to consciousness. Best example I can reasonably give is that if you had no memories and could not understand or produce language what would your experience right now look like? I suspect it would just be random noise and you would not feel conscious. But after enough time you may begin to notice patterns and eventually begin to experience something like consciousness.

I hope not the world ends

If by never you mean next year then yes.

@@Oneofthemones1 How exactly?

​@@a-walpatches6460 I'll come back here in the first day of 2026 and call you out.

I think the same. But I don't think this process is exclusive to humans. Uplifting animals should be easy for AGI. And even if we bring some of AGI into ourselves, I don't expect any kind of hybrid will be able to keep up with a pure digital entity. Biological life appears to be on the path to retirement, at least in terms of leading progress.

I wonder how it would affect the limbic system.

same as it ever was

All of that could be accomplished over a network. Hundreds of thousands of processors working together. Almost unlimited memory. The knowledge of the internet. The Singularity won't be centeralized. Remember using your screen saver to help process SETI? In the future it will be required to allow resting devices to run the Singularity in the background.

@@jkirch264 you right this works in a network however even you agree this is in the future. I believe instead of making the Artificial general intelligence we should advance ourselves as a species first.

Assuming they are basing human intelligence upon the modern IQ statistics, problem solving, and the current level of understanding in which we are stuck in. Yes, I do agree, mankind's egocentric boasts of being the most intelligent because he has achieved the ideology of reductionism and labeling every little bit and bop. Today it appears we are slaves to a system of paper, therefore we will never achieve the next level of evolution due to this systematic oppressions.

there are lots of ideas on how to define intelligence(as opposed to ai intelligence), however none of these approaches can be reduced to a very banal popular debate(even though i think they can be explained in short, but whats more sexier than just accepting a future with robots, or that singularity is gonna happen anyway like, yeah duh).

U don't need to define or understand human intelligence to worry about AI. Thats like saying u need to completely understand nuclear fission and fusion to create the most dangerous weapon the planet has ever seen. They still dont completely understand some of the processes yet we have 10 times the amount needed to end the population. Ur assumption seems to work only if the rest of planet thinks AI is pointless or not important which obviously thats not the case or they wouldnt be spending vast amounts of cash on it as we speak. It's our generations nuclear race just with computers and processing and u can already see a number of serious issues.

AI is able to be creative right now (DALL-E). Everything you're doing right now was once seen as a "I wonder what these guys are smoking" thing.

@@svenlittlecross yes there are lots of ideas on how to define human intelligence but no real defination. I have been interested in this topic for a long time. As far as i know there is no real definition and you can forget about equivalent ai intelligence . This whole topic is a pseudoscience . These people are same as the google employee who thinks that ai has gained conciousness. Anyway as i said this is a pseudoscience topic so anyone can imagine anything. In fact maybe we are already in a simulation created by our robot god.

to replace "work"? yes please! we also don't hunt and gather on the savanna any longer.

I feel the same way about it...

@@1MinuteFlipDoc with what (?) the IOT... let's see where that gets us. Replacing the "hunt & gather" on the Savanna with chemically laced food stuff and died meat, followed by cancer & obesity may be a Faustian deal🤔

yeah, no

Then we’re fukked

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