Is the Timberwolves season a success? | NBA | Speak
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24 күн бұрынThe Minnesota Timberwolves are facing elimination against the Denver Nuggets, but Anthony Edwards told a Nuggets attendant “see you in Game 7”. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and LeSean McCoy ask if the season for the Timberwolves was a success even if they get eliminated in Game 6.
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Is the Timberwolves season a success? | NBA | Speak
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@SpeakOnFS1 22 күн бұрын
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@FeedYourGreed 22 күн бұрын
Jaden McDaniels is 23, Ant is 22, NAW is 25, Naz is 23, KAT is 27. These fools dont even know the Wolves roster...
@jafar1902 17 күн бұрын
Exactly you can’t pay all these guys you have to let some go. I hope they all take pay cuts man
@davidblack3418 21 күн бұрын
I bet not a single one of them picked the Wolves to make the actual playoffs, let alone advance.
@krisnaneruda186 22 күн бұрын
This is literally them updating their resume lmao wtf is Acho talking about… he didn’t predict them being here
@patrickbell5875 21 күн бұрын
Exactly and they going up against the defending champs
@zachrainey6455 22 күн бұрын
How is it not a success, Ant got his first series W last round.
@jabaricrewsellis8740 22 күн бұрын
Preach. Theyre just talking out of their behinds.
@centinelyork 21 күн бұрын
Just stupid. If a 3 seed loses to the 2 seed defending champs they say it’s a disappointment for the wolves, but if the number 1 seed thunder lose to a 5 seed it’s a successful season for the thunder? WTF?
@Aneeshtherave 21 күн бұрын
@@centinelyorkfax. The Timberwolves would wax the mavs.
@BrilliantDominance 21 күн бұрын
You’ve never played sports. Every season where you don’t win the championship is a failure
@ranma36 21 күн бұрын
@@AneeshtheraveMavs in 6
@tonyjandl1868 21 күн бұрын
If KAT is old than what would you consider Jokic? KAT is younger than Jokic! These people don’t know anything.
@caydenantrim2156 21 күн бұрын
Acho is showing how little he knows. “KAT he old.” He is 28.
@DeCurtaRican 21 күн бұрын
He’s been in the league for 9 years bruh. He’s the equivalent of a 31 or 32 year old. In basketball, that’s old, especially with his injury history, and he has had many (plus a meniscus tear). He might have 3-4 years left in him if he’s lucky, and you shouldn’t expect those to be high-level playing years either. Once you begin to suffer from debilitating injuries (I.e., an achey this or strained that) you’re on your way out. And his are all in his lower extremities. Let’s not forget the concussions. NBA players aren’t quarterbacks. Most don’t get to play until they’re 40. They’re lucky if they’re still playing at 36 in anything besides a glorified 12th man role. Even more indicative is that he doesn’t move like he once did. A guy like Dwight Howard still has springs at 32. Alonzo Mourning was still a terror at 32, as were guys like LeBron, KG, Kobe, and others. KAT isn’t that dude. He LOOKS old out there.
@konezone2416 22 күн бұрын
every year gobert and conley are getting older, this was their best shot
@princecheck11 22 күн бұрын
conley a great piece but they can still find someone just as equivalent
@konezone2416 22 күн бұрын
@@princecheck11 not really, most post guards are shot chuckers nowadays, especially if you want one for the bargain of a contract conley is on
@sstier48 21 күн бұрын
Robert is only 31, and Conley has been up and down
@Aneeshtherave 21 күн бұрын
@@princecheck11not like Conley is this untouchable player.
@princecheck11 21 күн бұрын
@@Aneeshtherave so you just blatantly didnt read what i said at all
@kingcoldbra2393 21 күн бұрын
How did Acho get this job. I wonder sometimes🤦🏾♂️
@JeromeMKII 21 күн бұрын
Wasting their youth? So Jordan’s youth was wasted too right? Terrible take.
@DeCurtaRican 21 күн бұрын
He didn’t mean that literally. What he’s saying is that it’s a shame we can’t combine the physical gifts of the young with the skills, savvy, and experience of older players. That’s what he means when he says, “Youth is wasted on the young.” They might do done exhorting things, but they often don’t have the savvy and maturity to exploit the gifts of their youth the way an older person would and replicate their success.
@eezyvibez7894 21 күн бұрын
I swear acho never has a good take….. he just be yappin
@bvillesbest11 20 күн бұрын
Acho just flat out wrong here, using the Timberwolves accomplishments (winning the first 2 in Denver) against them, which NOBODY had them doing, is just stupid. Wolves were one of the best teams in the league all year and still nobody was giving them their cookies. Wolves were considered frauds all year smh. If he wants to consider the series a failure.. sure. But in no way shape or form is this season a failure. Let's not forget all the hate and backlash this team got by media for the Rudy Gobert trade. "Worst trade in NBA history" right? Wolves clowned those takes with the season they had. Best season in 20 years for this franchise, beat all expectations. We were the losingest franchise in all of sports before this season for crying out loud. Great season for the Timberwolves! Wolves in 7.
@Stonecoldalston 22 күн бұрын
Acho be trippin it would be disappointing to lose like that but still a success before the season no one expected the wolves to be here
@brandonb8807 21 күн бұрын
Ooooh, this whole segment just tanked like spoiled milk! 🤣🤣🤣 I can't wait for the next episode.
@darkmatter...369 21 күн бұрын
Kat is 28 how is he old this aged horribly
@koiyadanielle 21 күн бұрын
Thank you! They sound ridiculous
@rupertanderson7597 22 күн бұрын
Who acho Emmanuel think he is Elmer fund talking about " it's very very simple " 😂😂😂
@TimAllen-fs2rg 21 күн бұрын
See you in Denver game 7 . These fools are clueless
@patrickbell5875 21 күн бұрын
Joy is right again ! Game 7 ! she's has the most common sense and logical takes on the show and gets the most hate for some reason 🤷🏾♂️
@JersiiLoVe 22 күн бұрын
Mannnnn as soon as Rondo went down for the Bulls ik that series was over 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ They was gonna sweep them frfr 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@Bigp352 22 күн бұрын
Preach!!!!
@jordanbuckanaga6372 20 күн бұрын
Kat is 28 yrs old, NAW is 25, Naz is 24, McDaniels is 23, ant is 22, gobert is 31... TF is he talking about
@alexistorres5458 21 күн бұрын
Acho has to be the worst analyst on TV how you have a job and say the wolves season would be a failure
@michanslee1940 21 күн бұрын
Game 7!! Them talking like the series is over sheeesh
@patrickbell5875 21 күн бұрын
Joy said they can take the Nuggets to 7
@michanslee1940 21 күн бұрын
@@patrickbell5875 ya, bro. But the main question raised was whether the twolves season was a success. 🤦♂️
@nicko3896 21 күн бұрын
Comparing the kings to the wolves is laughable
@jamesdiego10 22 күн бұрын
i just added SPEAK to my subscriptions. I would like to say, you men and woman are incredible! Great commentary. Great conversation, and banter. Thank you!
@dangelobrown87 21 күн бұрын
Its a game 7 now
@traleroy5625 18 күн бұрын
Wolves took the series
@keithmcbrown2050 21 күн бұрын
Ancho talks failure as though his career was that greatest. These guys have no idea what success is.
@nomoney_sniper1885 21 күн бұрын
Acho, Ant man told me to tell you 🖕🏼🖕🏼. Lol
@leatherhoop 21 күн бұрын
Acho and Shay really just be yapping. The Timberwolves haven’t made the second round in 20 years. It’s clearly a success
@jtwayne5958 22 күн бұрын
So no body gone talk about how the reffs called the game the first two games compared to the last 3. Its night in freaking day!
@Chessbox09 21 күн бұрын
👍🏾💯
@rcbrown22 22 күн бұрын
Shady disagreed with Joy ... that's a first 😹
@harlequindawson6103 21 күн бұрын
I thought I was the only person that noticed that! Hahaha
@UnconventionalReasoning 22 күн бұрын
If the Nuggets win tonight, it would be a mistake to say that the TWolves season was not a success. Yes, the TWolves won the first two games in Denver. But then DENVER WON the next games. Since they won last year, they've been considered the best team in basketball. And Jokić is now a 3-time MVP. The TWolves winning the first two was the the outlier, not the Nuggets winning the next 3 [4].
@KevenSylvain 21 күн бұрын
FatFaktz.
@stargazer3747 22 күн бұрын
I don’t recall the T’Wolves being amongst the favourites at the start of the season.
@colterwilliams3152 22 күн бұрын
They weren’t. But is it not expected to make improvements every year? Multiple first round exits before this year? Like these guys said, they were fighting for the 1 seed all year. It came down to the last couple of games. Definitely set higher expectations when your best player is getting MJ comps lol
@nobleskywalker4639 21 күн бұрын
I think just people went overboard with the whole antman is MJ reincarnated or some dumb stuff like that. Plus he was talking a whole lot of smack
@bradleynugent2992 22 күн бұрын
if the team built to beat the nuggets, built by the nuggets former gm, cant beat the nuggets...nobody can
@TheMethod-rv5gr 21 күн бұрын
They are whipping the nuggets now! 19 points lead. Ant was right. They are going to game 7!
@tom97009 21 күн бұрын
@@TheMethod-rv5gr45
@MichiganHendough 21 күн бұрын
45 belt2ass
@davidbennett1931 21 күн бұрын
Joy and JJ is the ones with common sense
@bvillesbest11 20 күн бұрын
Shady saying Wolves have everything to win the series and should??? Guarantee he didn't have us beating the Nuggets and prolly not even the suns. These guys are literally only talking about this one series in a question asking if the SEASON was a success.
@gsmoneybabyxxl7575 22 күн бұрын
Very satisfying to see people eat nuggets’ humble pie 🥧 🤣🤣🤣
@jawz2x 22 күн бұрын
Ur absolutely right!! People never wanna give us the credit or give us credit but then tear us down.
@chaunceywade7293 21 күн бұрын
Oop about that
@TimAllen-fs2rg 21 күн бұрын
Like last night?
@MeBihhhh 18 күн бұрын
Nuggets lost to the wolves 🤭
@TimAllen-fs2rg 18 күн бұрын
What you eating this morning? Whatever it is don't give it to any Nuggets players . They might choke
@bygonewaves 22 күн бұрын
They give Jokic quick acknowledgment & proceed to talk about ANYTHING else
@princecheck11 22 күн бұрын
bait comment
@bygonewaves 22 күн бұрын
@princecheck11 Joy even acknowledges in this clip their tendency to want to dismiss him by his appearance & such.
@musestarlight1 22 күн бұрын
Boohoo is that you Michael malone
@bygonewaves 22 күн бұрын
@musestarlight1 The casual NBA fans & the media who profits off of them are treating Jokic like Tim Duncan. They 'yeah, yeah' his greatness & then talk about anything else
@princecheck11 22 күн бұрын
@@bygonewaves not them on the panel jack the media! they all been praising jokic & how phenomenal he is the timberwolves the bigger topic rn bc they was up 2-0 its not rocket science
@beard1851 21 күн бұрын
I can't do Acho... He's basically trolling...
@upholstery1995 21 күн бұрын
He's basically overcomplicating and tryna sound intellectual, and it's annoying 😂
@KickTrain 21 күн бұрын
Acho lately’s been pissing me off with all his takes I stg 😂😂
@AerForz1 21 күн бұрын
Make sure to update your information with that 45 point blowout of your 3x MVP
@juliansteed262 21 күн бұрын
I’m just saying. If the lakers were where the wolves are rn. They’d be calling the season a huge success
@randylouissaint1636 21 күн бұрын
Who’s here after the 45 pt blowout?
@JayStiles-kt2pm 22 күн бұрын
The Wolves season is a success because they're a top 5 seed and played great, especially 🐜 Man,but it's no shame losing in the playoffs in the 2nd rd against the Champs the Denver Nuggets tho.
@Johenz 21 күн бұрын
Y’all talj lije series was over dann can nuggas wait
@NumeroGaijin 20 күн бұрын
Smh......this is what we have to look forward to in journalism???
@superstarjay2371 21 күн бұрын
Acho calm down bro and stop bringing up your past!!!! Anything Minnesota does in the playoffs is a success and oh yeah it’s call Coaching which Denver has the advantage outside of the Joker!!!!!!
@randomupdates4013 22 күн бұрын
I’m not an Acho hater but the balance undeniable when Joy focuses moderating not primary panelist. Joy is a good moderator but so so panelist, so helps her skill utilization when is moderator. Dave brings a journalist skill, stats and can talk positional scheme and draft/trade analysis. Shady and James different personalities but former players to bring personal experience. 🔥
@sonseed7541 22 күн бұрын
bro
@EzMoneyflexx 22 күн бұрын
Spot on fam
@gordon2945 22 күн бұрын
She needs to go
@HockeyDudeJames2 22 күн бұрын
Joy is aTerrible analyst. For many reasons. She's an average moderator. Acho is better at both.
@randomupdates4013 22 күн бұрын
@@HockeyDudeJames2 I think she’s better suited to moderating. Even Dave a journalist can talk positional scheme. She says nuance a lot but not seeing it. 🤷🏾♂️
@JvlioGtxz 22 күн бұрын
I was with Acho yesterday about how when the Wolves win “look at Antman carrying!” But when they lose it’s everyone else’s fault. This might be too far yeah it sucks that they blew a 2-0 series lead at home but I don’t consider it a failure
@ALARGADORDECU 22 күн бұрын
Maybe not a failure, but i dont consider a sucess either... because nothing is promised at that level, We saw alot great players who didnt had another shot to the conference finals again.
@andoversandlot8491 22 күн бұрын
Acho was smoking boots on this segment
@chervang7578 22 күн бұрын
Denver lost those 2 games because they play like they play against Lakers Denver said hold up now we going to play for real.
@DeeChat 21 күн бұрын
And went back to square 1
@kevinjackson7539 21 күн бұрын
If l was married to Joy: “Joy the Gucci store called today baby you’re killing me…” You’re wearing that to bed?”….”We gonna talk about that bill tomorrow l mean it this time”
@AverageMyth 21 күн бұрын
Its a win for the season but a failure for the series. When you go up 2-0 ON THE ROAD it's a failure when you lose the series. But like I said still a W for the season imo.
@LostAngel19 22 күн бұрын
The Nuggets are an example of a team that was young got to a Western Conference finals. Fell off for 2 years came back got a Championship. And I’m a Nuggets fan so I don’t want them to get better. But it certainly can happen.
@iamdebirdie 21 күн бұрын
I'm going to comment before I watch this video because there's only one answer: yes. The Wolves have been horrible for 20 years and this is one of the first times we as fans have gotten to watch them battle in the playoffs. This doesn't happen for the Wolves. Ever. And ant is stepping up as a superstar, something we haven't had since KG. When they say no, they're absolutely wrong.
@MrAdmvp 22 күн бұрын
Kat is old? He’s 28 ffs
@alexisrobbins1736 22 күн бұрын
old af
@BROPify 20 күн бұрын
First time to second round in 20 years..how is that not successful?
@jamessolano9378 22 күн бұрын
Why do we believe on football players talking about basketball.? It’s like talking about engineering if u are a doctor
@Kwild_25 22 күн бұрын
Now yall talking like this it’s crazy
@ChowzRUs 21 күн бұрын
Yo they couldn’t find a better photo of Ant for behind JJ?? Lmao I swear sometimes these producers just put goofy looking photos for fun 😂
@rollandcurtis874 22 күн бұрын
The next GOAT convos and next GOAT debates will be: Michael Jordan vs Victor Wembanyama, Michael Jordan vs Anthony Edwards, Michael Jordan vs Luka Doncic, Michael Jordan vs Nikola Jokic, Michael Jordan vs Jalen Brunson, Michael Jordan vs Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Michael Jordan vs Ja Morant, Michael Jordan vs Donovan Mitchell, et cetera, et cetera. 🏀🏀🏀‼️‼️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💯💯💯💯
@iluvcakes19 22 күн бұрын
Only constant is the real goat 🐐 MJ
@BattleTruth 22 күн бұрын
Big men don't get compared to Guards.
@MCart1414 22 күн бұрын
Football isn’t basketball Yes losing to the Nuggets is ok because they are better. Period. Judging the season on one game is narrow minded. If Minny loses in game 6 or game 7 OSS still a successful season.
@ranchosdelnorte 22 күн бұрын
Shady and Acho keep making a big deal about being up 2-0 on the defending champs, when the exact thing literally happened last year. Sacramento was up 2-0 on the Warriors, then GS won the next 3 games straight and eventually won the series. Granted, those 2 first games were in Sacramento, but it's still basically the same scenario, and the Kings are just like Minnesota in that they hadn't accomplished anything in over 20 years.
@willjoyce5013 21 күн бұрын
You could alternatively say the Nugs gave them 2 wins and finally turned it on since. The Wolves overachieved, losing to Denver in 6 or 7 is still an accomplishment
@primeDecomposition 21 күн бұрын
T-Wolves just OBLITERATED the Nuggets in game 6! BEAT DOWN!!
@Marlon-yu9ir 20 күн бұрын
I dont know too many moderators as good as Acho!
@Cheema3 20 күн бұрын
Acho sounds stupid because he tries way too hard to be smart.
@RussellAlly 22 күн бұрын
Guys. Blessed. Joy stay blessed been a while. Love the growth
@joezerkant4437 22 күн бұрын
Jokic is a bad man!!! He loves to play a Joke on everyone. Lol he will dangle that Win and then quickly take it away. 😂😂
@jacktheman1989 21 күн бұрын
Kat is 28, Jaden is 24. The heck
@WheresWaldo05 20 күн бұрын
*23
@jonathanjoseph7674 22 күн бұрын
The lost to the overwhelming champs how is it disappointing??
@KevenSylvain 21 күн бұрын
Ryte
@donovangreen4476 21 күн бұрын
Stable and on point Dr Taylor
@larrytxeast8756 20 күн бұрын
Those 2 guys are making way too much of a fuss over the Timberwolves having a 2-0 lead. The Warriors had a 3-1 lead in 2016 and still lost.
@Joshualevibrown 22 күн бұрын
Y’all call AntMan Jordan and it Janked him 😂
@zachphillips7997 21 күн бұрын
Ayyyyye, he pissin on yall.
@patrickbell5875 21 күн бұрын
Game 7 says otherwise
@DuaneMondragon 22 күн бұрын
ONE REASON WHY THEY DON'T WANT NUGGETS TO WIN OR TO REPEAT IS B CUZ THE NUGGETS WILL BE THE FIRST CHAMPION SHIP TEAM TO COME BACK TWO GAMES DOWN GO NUGGETS
@emfbat 22 күн бұрын
The team is showing progress. They are a 2nd round team as of this year.
@real7706 22 күн бұрын
Watching the Joker play is like watching honey drip 😂, im dam near about to start watching the WNBA 😂
@bradfordmitchell3135 22 күн бұрын
Did you watch James harden
@alfrednewman984 21 күн бұрын
Nah frfr
@Chessbox09 21 күн бұрын
So true😄💯
@rushindragin361 21 күн бұрын
fundamentals wins
@pinnacleren4389 20 күн бұрын
The Wolves looked like the 1996 (72-10) Chicago Bulls on defense against the world champions and MVP. The Wolves were simply outstanding. That's it. I could of sworn MJ was wearing #5 when he (Edwards) was LEADING his team. Denver lost because they literally got beat in EVERY department. That wasn't luck or Denver's players having a bad game- the Wolves were the culprit.
@walterwalker8359 22 күн бұрын
Sounds as if Someone has Never seen or maybe misunderstanding growth...
@Trazor2k0 22 күн бұрын
Crazy how these channels always avoid to have the Nuggets as their main topic? They hardly ever give em their credit and talk about why they the best
@princecheck11 22 күн бұрын
thats bs
@lonnellgrigsby1367 22 күн бұрын
He doesn’t want the attention right now it’s the 2nd Round calm down lol
@Chessbox09 21 күн бұрын
No one cares about the Nuggets outside of Denver. These channels run on clicks and likes.
@Trazor2k0 21 күн бұрын
@@Chessbox09like Minnesota is any more popular bro 😂
@user-nr8sf1bv9t 21 күн бұрын
Have not been for awhile but we have the Ant man now so@Trazor2k0
@SphinxMen1906 21 күн бұрын
Both these teams just taking turns blowing each other out 😂
@yahcrack 22 күн бұрын
What’s a shame is how 22 year old Anthony Edwards came and took the team from Karl Anthony Towns - why isn’t KAT the leader? Also Rudy Gobert is a liability because he doesn’t give the Timberwolves no offense and can’t stop Nikola Jokic on defense.
@otislamar8613 22 күн бұрын
No one can stop Jokic
@jctslice 22 күн бұрын
@@otislamar8613 Dwight Howard did
@daquaylenavie3740 22 күн бұрын
@@otislamar8613they neutralized jokic in game 2 when gobert didn’t play we know you can’t completely shut him down but you a 4x DPOY you can’t contain him to a degree? Then on top of that he provides nothing on offense his whole game is defense so if you can’t do what you’re great at your a liability.
@saraxiong 22 күн бұрын
KAT is not the leader because he’s soft!
@WheresWaldo05 20 күн бұрын
Is everyone at your work place a capable leader??? Lol. 🤡
@boysuppafresh 22 күн бұрын
This show man😤. I knew acho take before I listen to the video and 15 seconds in I was right smh.
@derrickmason7457 22 күн бұрын
Where’s he wrong
@bwp2bruce 21 күн бұрын
Here after Wolves destroy the Nuggets
@FireFlameVision 22 күн бұрын
Every Champion in NBA has had a thing called growing pains since he likes analytics FACTS smh
@blitzchamp3854 21 күн бұрын
The thing is, the Nuggets are so resilient. They could modify their offense & defense as soon as the opponent changes theirs...
@Hi-cq2hm 22 күн бұрын
I don't get it people use the Lebron's lost when he was 22 as a failure and he took a horrible team to the finals, I mean people and Media shouldn't count that lost and don't use it against him, but that lost for people and media count as a one more failure and he was also 22. So ANT losing would be a failure.
@johnvtram 21 күн бұрын
They key to their success is that can they get naz, naw, or even jaden to average 15 points and 8 rebounds in a series and play mentally tough they should help free up kat and ant to shoot better. Defensively they hopefully can match almost anybody.
@zrikizrikic9126 22 күн бұрын
Jordan lose to Pistons..wolves losing to their Pistons..nuggets..but younger..so second seasons...
@franciscojarmendariz 22 күн бұрын
Timberwolves got this dude named Tim Conley. He's really good at building teams, helped the nuggets get to where they are, and helped with this wolves team build. I wouldn't be too worried if I was a wolves fan.
@WheresWaldo05 20 күн бұрын
*Tim Connely Mike Conley
@DemarcusDavis-nj3mz 18 күн бұрын
This aged well😂😂😂
@MonWrenn 18 күн бұрын
This aged well 😂
@praizzzeGod 21 күн бұрын
SHADY BE ACTIN LIKE HIS CAREER WAS SO GREAT. BOTH OF HIS SB's he ran 0 yards.
@wolfcastlewolfcastle5863 21 күн бұрын
lol! Ant knows....
@IceTreyClips 19 күн бұрын
bruh said kat is old lol tf are we talking about 😂
@delmedico6804 21 күн бұрын
Football guys talking basketball
@kbrewers 19 күн бұрын
you can have the series as a disappointment or a failure. but its a successful season.
@eglzallday 22 күн бұрын
Acho is reaching now. The Wolves are still a young team with NOW playoff experience. This will help them in the future.
@KingoftheSouth78 21 күн бұрын
Ant Man is young but I don’t consider Minnesota has a young team.
@jadenbarry6012 21 күн бұрын
@@KingoftheSouth78Facts the wolves have the perfect mix of vets and young players OKC is young Mike Karl Rudy kyle all have been around for 10 years or longer for the wolves
@ndmaynard227 21 күн бұрын
These guys didn’t expect Wolves to beat Suns
@Jon-Jack 21 күн бұрын
Shady b hating on JJ my Northern Cali cat
@princecheck11 21 күн бұрын
they gone trade jimmy butler back to the Timberwolves 😂😂
@livmxpvin 22 күн бұрын
if T-Wolves lose game 6, Rudy Gobert deserve to spend more time with his family...
@shofiulrahman8988 22 күн бұрын
The Wolves played their best game when he was away though…
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