Is the Tourbillon USELESS today? 🧐

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Жыл бұрын

The Tourbillon was patented by Abraham Breguet and today we're asking the question of whether a Tourbillon is useful today?
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@mrnonews Жыл бұрын

It's never about function. It's about aesthetics and prestige.

@avarmauk Жыл бұрын

It had a very useful function when created. Now it is purely for aesthetics and prestige.

@ionutcatalin6620 Жыл бұрын

thats why a quartz is supperior in any ways you can think of regarding function

@avarmauk Жыл бұрын

@@ionutcatalin6620 It is. Until the battery runs out

@ionutcatalin6620 Жыл бұрын

exactly and it costs 2$ and you change it yourself in 3 minutes :)

@avarmauk Жыл бұрын

@@ionutcatalin6620 Nobody is disputing that. That’s why I love Casio and G shock. But no harm in a bit of prestige and aesthetics with a mechanical watch.

@nickchang5293 Жыл бұрын

Most complications on an analog timepiece other than the hands and date are novelties, but their appeal are all about the aesthetics and that’s what we pay a premium for. I have a lot of chronographs yet hardly use the function, but the aesthetics appeal to my interest in cars and racing😎

@MinuteMon Жыл бұрын

I love chronographs! Agree with you there

@ronniep9272 11 ай бұрын

I find the chronograph very useful if I've left my phone somewhere else.

@JatzekPole 11 ай бұрын

@@egolifter1235 you got a 100k+ watch? nice, tell me more

@kongxincai1698 10 ай бұрын

Well said 👍

@danlightened 9 ай бұрын

Exactly! How many people really care about moon phases? And all the people with dive watches comparing how deep their watches can go probably never dove more than 10 metres in their lives.

@WomenHitTheWall 10 ай бұрын

I never care if my Omega is telling the correct time of the day, I only care how I enjoy life when I look at the dial.

@fitgeorge5040 3 ай бұрын

That goes unreasonably hard 💀

@bosewicht2389 11 ай бұрын

Having a hidden tourbillon is such a flex

@simon_field 5 ай бұрын

The idea and the building of a so small complication in that period really blow my mind. He was a real genius.

@alwaysleadguruster Жыл бұрын

I installed a tourbillon in my washing machine and now it washes clothes like it's possessed by the Poltergeist from washing machine hell, but got say my clothes are super clean though 😂

@mk810 Жыл бұрын

No one’s wrist movements balances out perfectly

@geordieny Жыл бұрын

Exactly, that was a redundant statement. There's a reason you timegraph in multiple orientations.

@om9959 11 ай бұрын

Try to use one hand.

@MinuteMon 11 ай бұрын

True, but that’s typically the main argument people make why a tourbillon isn’t necessary on a wrist watch because it *potentially* could even out while on the wrist

@therishabhdhiman 7 ай бұрын

If the hand doesn't balance out perfectly then don't you think that additional hand movements will create a problem when the tourbillion is already cancelling out the gravity effect?

@napalmtech Жыл бұрын

The aesthetic justifies its use for me I love this design

@1115asmara Жыл бұрын

This is the best definition of a tourbillion i have seen. Good job.

@walideg5304 Жыл бұрын

Abraham Louis Bréguet received the Legion d’Honneur from Napoleon Bonaparte

@lupreztryson Жыл бұрын

We all literally have a phone in our pockets that’s far more accurate than any watch can ever be. It’s not about the time and time accuracy. It’s about wearing art that you can admire

@ciklop4206 Жыл бұрын

Multiband 6 G-Shock with Tough Solar. Can't tell the time on a phone that is dead lmao

@paulgran7815 11 ай бұрын

Well, it's mostly about appeal, but it still has some function. Depending on what kind of pants your wearing, it may be quicker to look at your wrist them having to get out your phone, or at workplaces where phones are forbidden or aren't as quickly accessible as a wrist watch.

@danlightened 9 ай бұрын

@@ciklop4206That's not the point. A $50 quartz watch is more accurate than a $10000 automatic watch. So, spending more of a mechanical watch in ITSELF is unnecessary, as are tourbillons, mostly. But since people do ANYWAY, for the love of art, tradition etc., might well have a cool looking tourbillon.

@ciklop4206 9 ай бұрын

@@danlightened yes

@AnonYmous-ry2jn 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, but I have a tourbillon in my IPhone.

@rapaladude Жыл бұрын

I like that the Blanc Pain's hands have negative space so you can still see the tourbillon when they're at the 12 o'clock position. They absolutely sweat the details.

@ebob4177 Жыл бұрын

That is the most elegant set of watches I have ever seen!

@1115asmara Жыл бұрын

Breguet, Blancpain, Audemars Piguet.

@ebob4177 Жыл бұрын

@@1115asmara that explains a lot.

@1115asmara Жыл бұрын

@@ebob4177 I have one mistake. It's a Chopard not Audemars Piquet.

@whatisthis__95 11 ай бұрын

If the watch is face up, you can rotate the escapement all you want, but it’ll still be facing up

@dwightstone6569 11 ай бұрын

It’s simply Gorgeous in my opinion.

@davidsherrick898 11 ай бұрын

exactly. I can watch mine all day!

@JulioEuropePharmaVendor Ай бұрын

The chopard at the end is beautiful

@sowrabham8230 Жыл бұрын

It's the aesthetics, with tourbillon watches look alive

@jaykob2482 11 ай бұрын

That Chopard at the end is absolutely stunning 😍

@MCKoolperson9 11 ай бұрын

All mechanical watches developed after 1969 are "useless". If you want an accurate watch buy a casio, and save the other $299,985 for the downpayment on a house

@stocksxbondage 6 ай бұрын

Fun.

@darrenly3388 5 ай бұрын

But the casio will depreciate more than the tourbillon

@aregulargenericname8794 5 ай бұрын

@@darrenly3388not really

@thecoolaxolotlnova8523 Жыл бұрын

Imagine paying 10x the median salary for a metal thing that does one of the millions of things your $80 LG phone does

@johnlocke_1 2 күн бұрын

Imagine being too poor to afford jewelry.... I suppose you do not have to imagine that....

@piccolorick9269 Жыл бұрын

It’s a beautiful movement and justifies its existence just by that.

@OrganicDruid 10 ай бұрын

I cannot put it in my head that breget came up with this in 1801

@chomar97 3 ай бұрын

Breguet was the greatest watchmaker who ever lived. He made the first wrist watch in 1810 for a queen.

@JohnnyJQuest 11 ай бұрын

When I need total accuracy, my GShock does it best.

@totilujan Жыл бұрын

I say the aesthetics is important, but the value pf craftsmanship and engineering is what does it for me.

@sn00ze88 Жыл бұрын

The problem with the tourbillon and it's many iteration, the Chinese still managed to replicate them cheaply with parts being available quite freely. For example, with the chronograph, the only column wheel based chrono is the seagull based on a Venus movement, with production movement still having slight issues like "moving hands" when the watches are shaken... While ive seen some annual calendars, there is still none that is aesthetically pleasing

@LeoleoT1002 Жыл бұрын

That's Why they are cheap . Poor design ,low quality materials, and the precision is horrendous, Better off dropping a few thousand on a vintage than buying those crappy seagull watches

@kosmas173 Жыл бұрын

There are still some non Chinese watches that have tourbillons that aren't six figures. I think there's one that costs 8K but I'm not sure

@imran9910 Жыл бұрын

@@LeoleoT1002thing is.. Luxury watches will overprice by much more.

@onlythebest3311 Жыл бұрын

@@LeoleoT1002you have no idea what you are talking about, just another lemming following those KZfaq “experts”. Seagull has been around since the 50s, they know how to make watches - their tourbillon watches are excellent even more amazing considering you can buy one at $3k or less. I have number of their tourbillon watches as well as the ones from tag huer(cheapest Swiss made tourbillon around $10k) and jlc that cost around $60k. The seagull is actually better than tag and although not as good as jlc it’s pretty close but cost 20 times less. The seagul is my goto watch for daily wear as I never have to worry about it and it runs just fine. There are many fakes and i have seen plenty KZfaq experts get confused reviewing fakes as a real seagull. The real seagull is one of the most underrated watch brands just because they are Chinese. Also love their 1963 chrono.

@danlightened 9 ай бұрын

@@onlythebest3311Gotta hate on Chinese brands to justify their 6 figure purchase.

@Chris_BQ Жыл бұрын

Is a tourbillon technically considered a complication? Most youtubers use that wording for it, but I'm not so sure... could anyone explain please? Thanks...

@LeoleoT1002 Жыл бұрын

A complication Is pretty much any feature that is added beyond, minute, seconds and hours. Could be day and date, moon phase, power reserve indicator etc... Those are all complication

@Chris_BQ Жыл бұрын

@@LeoleoT1002 yeah, I get where you're coming from. In my mind though, a complication is any added feature...that gives you additional information, like all the examples you mentioned. A tourbillon only protects the movement against the effects of gravity. If that is a complication...is a silicone hairspring a complication, since it protects against magnetism? Not trying to be smart here, just genuienly interested in the conversation...

@LeoleoT1002 Жыл бұрын

@@Chris_BQ the subject is complex if you dig deep in it, but overall as long as it's a module of gears integrated on the movement that ends up adding a feature to the watch other than regular time telling it's a complication. Don't know about a silicone hairspring lol but who knows if a watch manufacturer states it's a complication people will instantly think of it as one

@LeoleoT1002 Жыл бұрын

@@Chris_BQ I'm no high end watchmaker so take my comment lightly some might have the fine definition of the word Complication

@MinuteMon Жыл бұрын

All watch manufacturers call the Tourbillon a complication. Great point about the silicon hairspring but it’s completely different than comparing a hairspring to a Tourbillon because it’s not just swapping a silicon hairspring but it has to be developed and decorated to be added to the watch. Not all brands make tourbillons and it’s considered a difficult complication to produce.

@vondahe 6 ай бұрын

Ahhh, Chopard. I haven’t seen one in ages. Beautiful and overlooked!

@isaactroyer5689 Жыл бұрын

Imagine getting a mechanical watch for accuracy

@satyamkanwar133 9 ай бұрын

It's the most beautiful complication for it's looks and technology ever to be created, it's beautiful period..

@tynchytemper9618 11 ай бұрын

Not a complication and was invented by John Arnold but developed by Breguet

@johnholland2825 11 ай бұрын

This. The only comment of value. Thread.

@strapmywrist 10 ай бұрын

If you can afford it without losing a limb and admire watch art then it is a piece to add to your collection

@monstermegahoschi Ай бұрын

It is very useful. That's why every garbage man and contractor has at least one and most of them two or more. It's that useful!

@suryaniranjans4563 3 ай бұрын

"Variance in timekeeping" straight outta Loki

@TikTik_Boom 13 күн бұрын

Louis Breguet recognised and acknowledged his friend John Arnold as the inventor of the tourbillion

@zero7523 11 ай бұрын

In theory it's more accurate but the additional losses from the extra parts ends up potentially increasing the time variance!

@RetRak0 Жыл бұрын

Hey guess what. Wristwatches are entirely useless today! Lol

@Ottonic6 11 ай бұрын

Explain entirely... Don't give that "because you have a phone", because not everyone has their phone on them all the time and being able to just look at your wrist is a lot more convenient than grabbing your phone and looking at it.

@skatersirian 7 ай бұрын

Fashion and luxury can be considered as "use".

@avery0088 11 ай бұрын

Crazy how he uploaded it the day it was invented, bro made a well detailed guide on something that was out for less than a day! 🤯

@ThatGuyUpThere 2 ай бұрын

In short, having a turbillon is a flex.

@nickhayes4169 2 ай бұрын

A thing of utter beauty.

@bobbybrainstorm 6 ай бұрын

“Constantly in motion” sounds like me

@GODOFLIQUOR Жыл бұрын

The tourbillon is still useful for when you’re either asleep or not wearing the watch. And watches that win accuracy competitions always seem to have tourbillons

@john-paulsilke893 Жыл бұрын

Are you measuring the half life of cesium atoms? They are for beauty, aesthetics and difficulty of design. The cheapest Casio will always be more accurate than the best Richard Mille $2 million watch or finest Daytona. I have a Daytona, and refused to ship it off for up to 4 months for service and recertification by Rolex as a chronograph. It’s currently +-3 seconds a day, (or for all I care +-30 seconds). I bought it as a status and ended up keeping it as a reminder of personal accomplishment and because I think it’s cool. I pretty much only wear it at the farm and wear a $300 Seiko for dress wear.

@scalhotrod 7 ай бұрын

But if you're a watch geek to ANY degree, it's just cool. I recently bought my first tourbillion from a Kickstarter campaign. It's a Chinese made movement in Swiss made case that is a copy of a Jacob & Co. and assembled in Germany. As someone that used to work in the watch and jewelry trade, I have no complaints about it for a $1,200 watch.

@RohanShethMoments 10 ай бұрын

Genuinely enjoyed watching this 🙌

@miladrahim5437 7 ай бұрын

They look so darn coooool!

@omaraboelneil2251 Жыл бұрын

It’s still useless, kinds Elegant though This is a live prove that watches nowadays are not meant for time, it’s a piece of jewelry

@nikanora97 11 ай бұрын

Not saying that tourbillion is not cool, but uselessness argument is because I am doubting the countering effect the complication gives even exists. The thing needs to rotate 360 degrees to counter, not 180. In the pocket watch era, when the pocket was mostly vertical, the down force still made the balancing wheel heavy.

@styfauly2115 9 ай бұрын

If it was all about usefulness, then mechanical watches and maybe even watches altogether would've died out

@Floodbait_117 9 ай бұрын

It may be useless in a wrist watch but you can't deny its cool

@robertcook5201 11 ай бұрын

Best quick explanation I've seen, 👍

@lakkireddyakshithsimharedd5920 9 ай бұрын

Now SMART WATCHE'S say hi to TOURBILLON watches 😂😂

@skatersirian 7 ай бұрын

Smart watches look goofy af.

@melody3741 6 ай бұрын

You have a phone. You don’t need a watch at all. However, the tourbillon absolutely does make a small difference on a wristwatch. It turns what could be 4-8 extra unique positions and merges them making regulating easier. However, the real issue is that escapements are just positionally accurate enough that it doesn’t do much good. And so most of them I’ve seen actually gain no advantage not because it cant but because the manufacturer doesn’t bother taking advantage of it

@1115asmara 11 ай бұрын

Personally, I would not pay for any complication since I'm a senior and I have no use for them.. I would pay for looks, weight and size. Complications are good for bragging rights and investment. A simple Reverso is my ideal watch .

@specialopsdave 11 ай бұрын

If it's about function, this can be solved by simply having counterweighted hands. It's really about form.

@STONEAJE 2 ай бұрын

My watch was incredibly accurate out of the box. +1 second a day. I was so happy with it. It's my daily and it could really take a beating. I used it fixing many things and it took it all like a perfect champ. A true sports watch that can go anywhere and do anything. I dropped it once. Barely anything at all. Just a slight fumble in my living room with hardwood floors which is a rarety for me. Now it's a few seconds slow and I'm scared to take it in :/ They will probably say it's in spec Tudor BB41 for those that care.

@crystaloffrost 6 ай бұрын

It seems Breguet is not the inventor, he is the manufacturer.

@warwickscram1656 6 ай бұрын

They should invent the turdbillon, which negates the effect of gravity when you take a dump.

@namenotavailable11 11 ай бұрын

If you're striving for accuracy, get a quartz.

@ismarwinkelman5648 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@ninety2amigos27 6 ай бұрын

I, alomg with many others i bet, have learned so much useful knowledge from your comtent!

@ljon008 5 ай бұрын

Good info 👍🏼👍🏼

@ericpeterson9110 Жыл бұрын

The reason gravity impacts timekeeping is because of the effect on the balance spring and not the escapement. A single axis tourbillon only corrects along a single axis and so wont correct for all potential positions.

@adawg3032 10 ай бұрын

Bregeut didnt invent the tourbillon, he patented it. The actual mastermind of the tourbillon is John Arnold. They worked together really, but not giving credit to the one who conceived the invention is a miss. John Arnold was an incredibly smart man who deserves his name in the halls of horology fame with Bregeut.

@kutter_ttl6786 7 ай бұрын

To Breguet's credit, he did acknowledge his friend John Arnold's contribution by presenting his first tourbillon to John's son in 1808. John Arnold laid the groundwork, and Breguet was able use that research to create the first successful tourbillon.

@1eyedwilli3 Жыл бұрын

Beauty is timeless

@darknight1220 10 ай бұрын

I'm 100% for more useless or deprecated features in watches cuz watching gears make brain feel gud

@Cardsandstoagies Жыл бұрын

Its all about the craftsmanship.

@LeonXOV 7 ай бұрын

The most useless complication is the dead beat seconds, period.

@markfuentes2651 9 ай бұрын

All watches and complications are equally useless in the year 2023. We can tell time, date, location, moon phases, tides, rotation of the earth around the sun, or anything else in far better and more portable ways today. That is not why we buy, wear, collect, or obsess over watches today. Anybody who comments on the utility or lack thereof of any timepiece or complication today has completely missed the point of horology in the 21st century.

@jethrodavao.-sectionc9995 Жыл бұрын

Quartz for the win!

@LogiCrux 2 ай бұрын

Looks cool. I'd want one.

@williampena197 11 ай бұрын

I think a tourbillion may still be use since the watch may be experience jagged movements depending on the in the individual, and may end up in a pocket from time to time.

@cedarcanoe Жыл бұрын

It might shock you but A.Breguet didn’t invent the tourbillon

@ericpeterson9110 Жыл бұрын

John arnold conceived of it, Breguet made the first one. Both co-inventors.

@bobschaaf2549 2 ай бұрын

I never liked tourbillons. I don't need a garbage disposal on my watch dial.

@stopitnowlol6697 Жыл бұрын

My only issue is that my favourite designed watch is the Tag Heuer Carerra titanium gold tourbillion, if they had it as an automatic chronograph or one that just didn’t cost 40k (aud) I would genuinely think about getting it. Nvm as I was writing this I checked and they do have one as an automatic chronograph that’s steel and gold that looks the same.

@antslim168 4 ай бұрын

I'll just flex my super accurate Casio 😂😂😂

@richardstonyisland9719 Жыл бұрын

Love the knowledge

@technosins7123 Жыл бұрын

I thought you were going to tell us an even more useless complication, 😂

@Ian-mj4pt 9 ай бұрын

Dont care i still rhink the skeleton watches are some of the most beautiful because you can actually see the movement abd the effort put into the timepieces. Whether it helps ir not it still looks beautiful

@0PE. 11 ай бұрын

I don’t really care about functionality, I have a phone after all. But it looks fucking incredible

@penepatitenor 9 сағат бұрын

That blancpain is ❤❤

@fpostolache 5 ай бұрын

Wrist watches are useless today unless you love them (I do and nothing can help)

@Aloha_XERO 11 ай бұрын

My question is how and why are they called complications… I’ve many analog watches digital, calculators and my 2 classic favorites the Casio Databank and the 1st and 2nd iteration or the IR remote control watch, Sea Pathfinder and few Invictas just for talking points in certain situations. Didn’t know what a complication was until I got my first Apple Watch

@editsbyMEDIA 11 ай бұрын

I found a watch company called Aesop and they make tourbillon watches for around $400

@AC-dl5yh 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for the nice short and succinct vid. Clearly a tourbillon in motion is impressive and great to look at. No doubt about that. But comparing a pocket watch with a tourbillion against a high end railway p/w or a chronometer p/w with a detent escapement, does the tourbillion really would have made any significant improvement?

@Whyoakdbi 11 ай бұрын

My rolex when worn daily stays as accurate as up to a second for 2 weeks

@rava2107 10 ай бұрын

Breguet didn't invent the tourbillon. He built it, and his great friend, the English watchmaker Arnold, invented it. He also taught Breguets boys watchmaking. This is a common misconception, but Breguet built it from designs given to him by Arnold, but don't believe me, go check it out for yourselves.

@stuartanderws5705 11 ай бұрын

The balance on 99% of watches are very good in 4 or 6 positions so the tourbillon isn't needed. IE they are very well poised no heavy spots on the wheel.

@Fosi94 Жыл бұрын

I would love to have one in a piece.

@joshuaszeto 11 ай бұрын

I have been trying to find a damn tourbillon pocket watch and i am convinced they dont actually exist

@159tony 2 ай бұрын

Its a magnificent mechanism. But it's still less accurate than the cheapest digital watch.

@diegomacias4787 5 ай бұрын

well tbf all mechanical watches are pretty much obsolete digital is the most accurate time teller by far. tourbillion/spring drive/mechanical watches are all about aesthetic prestige and collectability.