Thank you for this short discussion on such a vitally important topic. Please take any and all hard steps to home school your children, your grandchildren. We did and it was not that difficult. We put off selfishness for their gain, for all eternity. June 17, 2024 And we home schooled through the 12th grade. With our children learning a very good, work diligently, work ethic. They earned good Scholarships to private college and public law school. Thank the Lord. God willing for you and your children and grandchildren also ! June 17, 2024

Very good discussion of this question. Thanks for dealing with it so well. Real temptation of Christians today is to fall into grumbling about the state of the wider society but doing precious little in response.

Very good, thank you for being so honest.

Brilliant! Thanks very much. This is the first time I have come across the Banner of Truth on KZfaq. Excellent!

Dr John Macarthur said that during the Covid lockdowns, "God was purging the Church." Many were all too happy to obey the government not God and have still not repented.

I always think about those 7,000 in Elijah's day that he was unaware of and I think we may well be surprised - but it won't be those we assumed!

The true church has always suffered, its not a new phenomena, today, many so called christians shy away from any kind of sufferering, having said that, these will be the ones, that will, fall away, completely.

I'm ready to die! I'm already dead to the world. This video has lifted me, a church person (no offence meant) talking like this. I no longer enter through church doors, but I do enjoy a fruitful relationship with the Lord

The fact is that the bible tells much of vital and urgent importance that is not even mentioned in this discussion. Rev.13 tells us that in the near future, people all across the world will be forced to worship the first Beast, who will head the global government. People who refuse to take the mark of the beast, and who refuse to thereby deny Christ, will be put to death. Jews and Christians will be persecuted as never before in history. The Lord Jesus Himself taught this in Matt. 24. In this present video Matthew Roberts talks in broad terms about the 'possibility' of coming persecution, but unfortunately neglects to deliver the teaching of the bible. Not once does he cite eschatological Scripture. Presumably, he either is unaware of it, or doesn't accept it, and in common with amillennialists and 'Replacement theologians', tries to 'spiritualise away' the plain teachings of Scripture. It is one thing to look around at the sinful laws and cultures forming around us today, as these men are doing here,, but if one wants true understanding about things to come one needs to study the bible, not just draw a sketch of what is happening around us politically and sociologically. It is not current events that explain Scripture, but Scripture that explains current, and future, events. Daniel, Jeremiah, the apostle John, and the Lord Jesus all prophesied a time of great Tribulation that is to occur, not merely tribulation in general, but a particular period of time which will produce extraordinary Tribulation for Israel and for all believers.. This video is rather like a cosy fireside chat about bad things that are happening and could increasingly happen. But the Tribulation to come will not be in any way way cosy or distant. It will be a nightmare reality for every person on the earth. Not only will the spiritual powers of cruelty and evil and global oligarchy be set loose for a time, but God will also judge this Christ-rejecting world. THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.. Once the Lord opens the seals (Rev.6), there will follow the trumpet and bowl judgements. It is impossible for the world as a whole to escape its coming fate. God has spoken! But, thank God, for every individual man, woman and child there is still one certain hope. The only place of safety for any individual is through faith in Christ and His work on the cross.. He has promised to keep believers from the great trial which is to come upon the whole world (Rev. 3v10), Accept Christ as your Saviour now, while there is still a short time remaining to do so. Acknowledge yourself to be a sinner, and ask the Lord Jesus to be your Saviour. Ask Him to bring you, personally, into the good of His redeeming work on the cross. He has promised that He will not turn you away.

With respects to the question is the Church ready for persecution with the reply “we don’t know, …the Church is never ready for persecution” begs the question has he actually read the Bible. Jesus himself said this is what to happen to those who follow him, “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.” Matt10:16 “But be on your guard. For they will deliver you over to councils, and you will be beaten in synagogues…” Mark 13:9 The book of Acts clearly indicates that persecution will happen “…And there arose on that day a great persecution against the church in Jerusalem…” Acts 8:1 The Apostle Paul even said of himself before his conversion, “And I said, ‘Lord, they themselves know that in one synagogue after another I imprisoned and beat those who believed in you.” Act 22:19 To me this is a reply of men who know they have failed to prepare the church for this and is a direct result of their failure to mature believers in the faith for again Paul states in 2 Tim 3:12 “Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,” Of course what does that mean? It means, if the church is not being persecuted it is not living Godly. If it were it would always be in the condition to meet persecution when it comes. The church would be in the condition of the fighter who is always disciplined and trains his body ready for when the combat comes. I was a soldier for 30 years and it was our duty to train men ready for the rigours of combat and it is the ministers job to do likewise in the spiritual battle, otherwise again we see through the words of Jesus as to what will happen if they are not “…and when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately he falls away.” Matt 13:21. Let’s be honest we have fat and flabby Christians theologically speaking, who have a spirituality that is two miles wide and an inch deep and are not ready to face the challenges that are coming because we have grounded them in emotionalism, which is how the world forms its truth and not on the presuppositions of the declared Logos, and what is coming will certainly separate the chaff from the wheat. All that I would say, is Woe to the shepherds who neglected their responsibilities to prepare their flocks and cared more about not offending anyone and therefore compromised on so many basic issues of holiness and the centrality of Christ in the Church. How are your coffee mornings, ensuring you have the right light and sound systems for your so called worship groups, church programs ad nauseum going to help a people to stand with no root. It is a house built on sand and great is going to be its crash. But out of it because God is gracious will be a people tempered by suffering who will truly know the God of the Bible which the current shepherds, not all of course but a large portion, have failed to lead them into relationship with and it will be those who God will use to change the world.