Is the VARJO AERO worth it in 2023?

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Virtual Reality Pilot

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11 ай бұрын

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@shojo8708
@shojo8708 10 ай бұрын
The Varjo Aero just dropped the price 50% so it's very well worth it this year.
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 10 ай бұрын
Same price as Bigscreen Beyond which is micro OLED. I'll take micro OLED over LCD any day.
@shojo8708
@shojo8708 10 ай бұрын
@@dtz1000 It depends on which trade-off you like better. Dynamic foveated rendering, or micro-oled. I'm just happy we are getting away from those fresnel lenses.
@kendil22
@kendil22 10 ай бұрын
@@dtz1000 I'm bouncing between the BSB and Aero. My only issue with BSB is that all the testers say it gets clammy after an hour or so. That would suck.
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 10 ай бұрын
@@kendil22 That is something that puts me off too, but I heard they are going to make available breathable face gaskets which should solve that problem.
@MrCrrispy
@MrCrrispy 10 ай бұрын
@@dtz1000 it's cheaper than the bigscreen now. But makes choice more difficult :)
@EbonySeraphim
@EbonySeraphim 8 ай бұрын
Take it from someone who's purchased a Pimax Crystal as a first VR headset for flight sim (DCS) and is about to return it ASAP -- what was said about the hardware and software working matters A LOT. Though I got help from Pimax to get it "working" in order for me to do this, I need to physically unplug my main monitor (4k@120hz, disabling it or dropping refresh rate didn't help), and drop my 1440p monitor to 1600x1024 resolution @60hz in order for the Crystal to successfully interface with my 4090 graphics card. This is RIDICULOUS. I already have a lot to do before launching DCS making it not the easiest game for me to jump in on a whim, and when I play DCS, I want to multitask a bit and suddenly only having a PC with that resolution is beyond bad and limiting for me. I forgot to mention, if/when I fail to properly unplug the other monitor, there's a likelihood that plugging in the Crystal crashes my PC. The support person admitted the problem I have -- presumably about needing to unplug my monitor and reduce the resolution of the second -- will be fixed in a future firmware update. No offense, I'm not really willing to wait for that 3 months down the line when I might not be able to cleanly return it and find out, maybe I can have it plugged in, but I still need to tank the resolution or some other dumb stuff. I've played DCS with the Crystal on and it looks good (tough to match up to a 4k monitor), but even if I presume all of the BS I experienced and other limitations didn't exist, what is the Crystal like as a product? With almost nothing else to compare it to, the Crystal is not lightweight. Yes, it sits comfortably and balanced on my head, but the weight is noticable such that if you play longer sessions your neck is sure to get considerably stronger. Also, it gets hot in there and fogged up a little even without attempting to play for any extended period of time. This will destroy clarity and immersion and you will keep needing to wipe your lenses clean, and an unfortunate number of people will use the wrong kind of cloth to do so ruining the lens. Looking at the numbers for resolution, the Crystal has 6% more vertical resolution and something like 15-20 degrees more vertical FOV. I'm willing to have both of these come down and will be happy. Why? Because even as I used the Crystal, sitting in the cockpit I couldn't actually read instruments clearly at the edge of the screen, and attempting to do so was really just practice rather than what I would naturally try to do. My head will turn to face what I am trying to read rather than putting my eyes at the extreme limits. Additionally, there appeared to be something else about the rendering of the cockpit in VR -- likely unrelated to the headset, so just DCS maybe -- where instruments directly to the left or right of the pilot and down were also hard to read clearly until I looked straight at them and maybe even pushed in. Again, not a deal breaker as you usually don't need to read anything there substantially after you know a module. Point being -- the advantages of the Crystal over the Aero aren't worth that much too me. I think even if the Pimax Crystal and Aero were the exact same price, and all of the issues I had with the Crystal were resolved, I would still go with the Aero. Fogging seems like a very low budget experiential thing ruins the premium visuals it's supposed to deliver. And I forgot to mention -- for some silly reason I thought I'd be able to use my normal PC headphones of the Crystal -- no. Even if you don't get any of their upgraded audio options, there is still a base audio thingy there and it is chunky enough to make it impossible or difficult to still put headphones on, on top of it. Some of us have solid headset solutions already and consistent with the rest of our gaming and the Varjo Aero is compatible with it.
@KlearChristal
@KlearChristal 8 ай бұрын
Jesus, that sounds like it was hell
@JZainbear
@JZainbear 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Software very mature. Visuals are as good as I would ever want. I hope the next has a wider field of view, but I barely care. Just a great VR headset.
@benjaminh4290
@benjaminh4290 9 ай бұрын
100 % true, got my aero last week. this hmd is still amazing in 2023. Thank you for your great review
@Liicch
@Liicch 10 ай бұрын
Now that it dropped in price by 50% i am so close to buying it, but i don't want to miss out on the great mic and audio solution of my index. I dont feel like the trade off is worth it since i mostly play social VR games and no simulators. So unfortunate that they didn't chose to include an audio solution.
@MrCrrispy
@MrCrrispy 10 ай бұрын
That's the current problem. Each of the new products has also issues and/or missing features. Still not sure what to buy.
@HarshvardhanVarma
@HarshvardhanVarma 9 ай бұрын
as a q3 owner: beyond@@MrCrrispy
@absolarix
@absolarix 8 ай бұрын
If you know anyone with a 3D printer, you could take the speakers off the Index and mount them to the Aero with an external DAC, and get a good mod mic to go with it
@Liicch
@Liicch 8 ай бұрын
@@absolarix So you're saying, people should spend 150 on a wireless modmic or a little less on a wired one + basically ruin the resale value of their index + spend money on a DAC + a whole bunch of time and work just to make this work? Where is the point of the price drop when you need to put in all this money and time to make the purchase worth it.. sounds like a bad deal to me :)
@PvtPartzz
@PvtPartzz 8 ай бұрын
Just use some wireless earbuds? I'm confused why this is such an issue for people. I find it hard to believe that people willing to spend 1000$ for a VR set wouldn't already have a decent pair of wireless earbuds.
@melvinf78
@melvinf78 10 ай бұрын
Great review! I struggled between the Aero and the Crystal for quite a while and went for the Crystal. But still, I am sure the Aero is also a great headset, and having options is great even though the decision making process is painful. With Apple Vision Pro's release, higher end VR headsets start to make sense for more and more consumers, and thanks for the persistence thru the up-and-downs by brands like Pimax and Varjo, we are able to enjoy similar fun much earlier than Apple fans and at a much lower price tag. Feeling great to be a VR fan now!
@evanmorris3400
@evanmorris3400 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Keen to hear if you like the motion reprojection on the Varjo Aero? Is there many artefacts? I use a Quest 2 and always fly with ASW enabled for smoother flights. Cheers
@fffrrraannkk
@fffrrraannkk 8 ай бұрын
I think it was Norm from Tested who said the lenses are overkill for the displays. What that means is it can benefit nicely from super sampling since the lenses won't be holding it back like fresnel does.
@sokola311
@sokola311 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant review
@zetapal
@zetapal 10 ай бұрын
1. Let's see, BSB has pancake lenses, Aero has aspheric, win Aero. 2. The BSB has micro-oled at 2560x2560 (but only at 75Hz, yes you can run it @ 90Hz but they use a scaling trick and the resolution drops and most testers find it unpleasant and blurry at 90, so you'll be using it @75Hz native). The Aero has Mini LED LCD 90hz panels with a resolution of 2880 x 2720 pixels per eye. (these are Mini LED LCD panels, the same technology as used in the new Macbook Pro displays. That means that there is not just one big backlight that is turned on all the time like with standard LCD panels,) Yes these are LCD panels but they're not JUST LCD panels, they're mini LED and the best in the business. I would give this to the BSB but with the practical native 75Hz and the lower resolution I'm calling it a draw. 3. BSB has noticeable glare problem. It's there, the testers talk about it, gonna have to live with it. While the Aero had a noticeable bit of chromatic aberration towards the outside fov in the first year or so of its life, subsequent firmware updates have reportedly corrected this problem. Win Aero. 4.Aero has a military aerospace heritage with its own version of open XR {and is compatible with SteamVR} and it has THE best eye tracking available. This means that with MSFS it runs natively on its own runtime and performs better than a Reverb G2 ... WITH the higher resolution. Yes, higher FPS than a G2 ! The software this thing comes with is top notch and stable. Aero also has auto IPD and ventilation built in, so you can let your friends try it. BSB has one set IPD with custom fit gasket. It might get hot in there and you probably won't be sharing it with your friends. Software wise, you'll be on SteamVR which is ok I guess. It works very well with it, you can even hot plug it from what I've heard. Win Aero. 5. Comfort ? - Gotta give it to the BSB now that they've included a top strap, it should do the trick. Form factor obviously wins here. Win BSB Overall winner ? With the build quality, proven track record, superlative features ... from a simmer's standpoint given equal price ? no question, it's Aero.
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 10 ай бұрын
1. Aspheric lenses still have distortions, but the pancake lenses I've used don't. For this reason, pancake lenses win every time and are the future of VR. 2. Micro OLED wins every time against LCD. Calling the Varjo Aero mini LED is deceptive marketing because the local dimming doesn't even work on the Aero. So it's just LCD with a fancy name attached to it, with the same bad black levels that other LCDs have.
@brettgrieves
@brettgrieves 10 ай бұрын
The only sensible option here is .... to buy both... which a lot of aero users have done... including me 😁 BSB for room scale, aero for simming.
@zetapal
@zetapal 10 ай бұрын
@@brettgrieves I like the way you think
@jlepage36
@jlepage36 10 ай бұрын
@@brettgrieves Most of us would be divorced for even suggesting that we buy both, lol
@brettgrieves
@brettgrieves 10 ай бұрын
@@jlepage36 I'm not gonna lie.... I didn't tell her, I had to borrow one of my kids iPhone to do the scan 3 months after the order, the buggers snitched on me straight away!
@elguindy
@elguindy 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great video one of the reasons I just bought this headset however I am missing something my view is stuck for only forward can not look left , right , up or down nothing happens as if it is a fixed image for me which causes been dizzy . What did I miss in my setup I use it for MSFS 2020 . Thanks a lot
@clayton4115
@clayton4115 10 ай бұрын
@ 3:48 I see you sitting on a platform and chair is it possible to put motion on that platform using a d-box system on each leg?
@samilaitala5602
@samilaitala5602 10 ай бұрын
Very good review. I bought my Varjo week ago, and have had only 1 hours use yet. However one thing after Pimax came really first to me was the lower FOV. This should mention. Otherwise the Varjo aero is Super cool!
@x32i77
@x32i77 10 ай бұрын
The aero received a 50% price cut now 😮 💀
@MrCrrispy
@MrCrrispy 10 ай бұрын
@@x32i77 I wonder if they will offer something to people who bought it just a few days ago...
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 10 ай бұрын
It always amazes me how KZfaqrs with affiliate links never mention the low vertical FOV on the Aero when talking about it. The vertical FOV is worse than even the Quest 2.
@jimmy8x541
@jimmy8x541 10 ай бұрын
​@@dtz1000 it's crazy. the vfov is truly bad, it's basically the worst of any headset released in the last 3 years. I'm still enjoying the Aero but the fov annoys me often and I'll upgrade as soon as something with Aero quality + form factor with better fov comes out.
@JozefTrubac
@JozefTrubac 10 ай бұрын
How is the vertical FOV? Is there still some color shift?
@RayKit
@RayKit 10 ай бұрын
Very informative thank you. Excllent video and well explained.
@VirtualRealityPilot
@VirtualRealityPilot 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@SwapnilBhartiya
@SwapnilBhartiya 10 ай бұрын
Can you play regular games like Witcher in VR - in theater mode so you have bigger screen the way we can do in Sony PSVR?
@jvazquez53
@jvazquez53 10 ай бұрын
Can these be used with the Quest 2 controllers?
@CaptianJoseph
@CaptianJoseph 10 ай бұрын
That DCS Recording was smooth. Did you record it with VR and how did you get the complete picture in the recording please!
@piloto2412
@piloto2412 10 ай бұрын
Hey man quick question. Ik you own a varjo aero. I just bought mine and waiting for shipment. I wanted to know if you need controllers just to start msfs or dcs or xplane. Im planning on just playing these 3 games on the varjo. I hope i dont need to buy controllers. Can you please lmk i cant find any other youtuber or info online about this. Thanks a lot
@TheColdest247
@TheColdest247 9 ай бұрын
Will this pair well with a 4080rtx?
@DigitalContentNetwork
@DigitalContentNetwork 10 ай бұрын
Will be still an exotic vr leftover of that 3rd wave of the 2020 vr hype. Prosumer it was in that year. Times running fast and I guess it wasn't sold so well. You need all the "old clunky stuff" to connect. Even 999 won't change that with that next OR, Samsung, HP and PICO at the horizon.
@patrones6024
@patrones6024 9 ай бұрын
Friend, the graphic quality of retail is incredible? I have an hp reverb G2, do you know if it is much superior? Does it run on an RTX 3080 card?
@iraklimgeladze5223
@iraklimgeladze5223 10 ай бұрын
what about movies in that headset?
@marcschumacher1358
@marcschumacher1358 9 ай бұрын
Can you wear your pair of glasses with the aero?
@JozefTrubac
@JozefTrubac 10 ай бұрын
It still has distortions ?
@jayagusto9409
@jayagusto9409 6 ай бұрын
Do you still have to buy a subscription?
@Tee-zt4wr
@Tee-zt4wr 8 ай бұрын
I actually got the aero hmd to work in x-plane 12 by messing with open xr and open vr . Not sure what i did to get it to work but can't seem to be able to again 😮 humm Works fine in msfs
@dash8dave476
@dash8dave476 8 ай бұрын
After your very informative review .I am now thinking of buying the AERO for my flight simming hobby. But would you tell me please if i need hand controller's to navigate through the set up procedures. or would the mouse be ok to use thanks..DJB
@VirtualRealityPilot
@VirtualRealityPilot 8 ай бұрын
Mouse will be fine, Ive set this up with mouse only
@VRManCave
@VRManCave 11 ай бұрын
Great review! Just got my Aero yesterday and still tinkering with it. Not sure why but I'm getting ghosting/stuttering when moving my head, even though I'm running it from a 4090/7950x3D PC. Did you experience any of that?
@VirtualRealityPilot
@VirtualRealityPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yes but it’s something to do with the 7950x3d not scheduling work correctly. I just reboot a few times until it stops, absolutely nothing to do with the aero.
@heartbroken3344
@heartbroken3344 10 ай бұрын
💀
@gregs9492
@gregs9492 8 ай бұрын
Really don't care that it doesn't have sound of any kind. Glad they focus on the visual and leave the sound to someone else. It gives it one less thing to break and lets me get a MUCH better sound quality from a company that specializes in creating quality sound equipment rather than making it an afterthought.
@TheCort1971
@TheCort1971 10 ай бұрын
the price just dropped massively. now its a much better option.
@StarBellySneetch
@StarBellySneetch 8 ай бұрын
Worth mentioning. The Varjo WORKS. Put it on and you are automatically in.
@raylemus72
@raylemus72 10 ай бұрын
Guys, question: do I need the two external tracking base stations for this headset? I’m going to use it for flight simulators. I’m currently on the HP Reverb G2 V2 with OpenXR.
@zerumsum1640
@zerumsum1640 10 ай бұрын
yes. this headset is tracked via steamvr lighthouses.
@scratchsescape1978
@scratchsescape1978 11 ай бұрын
Mine was on sale and cost me less than a Chrystal. Suppose to be here by Wednesday. I've been using OpenXR with my G2 so I'm familiar with that. Anyway I'll find out in the next few days if it was worth it.
@kendil22
@kendil22 10 ай бұрын
Just got a permanent 50% price cut.
@scratchsescape1978
@scratchsescape1978 10 ай бұрын
@@kendil22 Yeah, I wish I had waited about 4 more weeks. But, that's the story of my life. Too late or too early.
@kendil22
@kendil22 10 ай бұрын
@@scratchsescape1978 Right, I bought a quest pro a couple of months ago and wish I had waited now for the Aero.
@misticace95
@misticace95 10 ай бұрын
@@scratchsescape1978so how does it compare to the G2. I run the G2 with open XR as well
@PawsleyDirt
@PawsleyDirt 9 ай бұрын
@@scratchsescape1978Price aside, how do you find the headset? Looking to upgrade from a Rift CV1.
@wariwulffranck1235
@wariwulffranck1235 8 ай бұрын
Hello. Thank you for this interesting video. The Varjo helmet has dropped in price, which makes it interesting. I wanted to know. In sim, can a single valve base be enough? Thank you for your answer.
@Turbonuotti
@Turbonuotti 8 ай бұрын
I would like to know this too, i am planning to buy aero to sim race when i have saved enough money. It would be great to get a way with just one base station, anyone tried this? 😮
@Wooskii1
@Wooskii1 10 ай бұрын
What GPU are you using to get 80 fps in MS Flight? I have a 3080TI and I don't want to upgrade my GPU right now, so if I can get decent performance out of it I just might grab the Aero. I've been waiting to buy a high even HMD for years, I think it may finally be time.
@haltux
@haltux 5 ай бұрын
Constant 80 FPS in flight simulator today is impossible. But motion reprojection works great.
@stevedoetsch
@stevedoetsch 10 ай бұрын
Price just dropped for the aero to 1k
@bradentaylor517
@bradentaylor517 6 ай бұрын
Have yet to test this but I hear the Astro A40/A50's headphones fit perfectly. I'd rather use my A40's than rely on some janky plastic audio device they could have installed on this.
@KaoruSugimura
@KaoruSugimura 9 ай бұрын
The lack of a mic and speakers really hurts. Especially the lack of a mic. Bigscreen has a high quality mic but they lack eye tracking so dynamic FR is off the table. Another trade off with the Bigscreen being the excellent pancake micro OLEDs at the cost of not being able to share your headset. Personally, i lean more towards the Bigscreen but that's because i have no irl friends to share with and i prefer having a quality mic built in. :/
@GT1GT
@GT1GT 11 ай бұрын
Nice Review but I got to say Pimax Crystal is a much better bang for your buck. Plus from what I hear the visuals are better in a couple of ways. Yes I am a little biased I do own and love my Pimax Crystal. Cheers. Maybe you can get yourself a Pimax Crystal and do yourself a comparision.
@VirtualRealityPilot
@VirtualRealityPilot 11 ай бұрын
That’s in the plan, these headset’s definitely need a comparison
@kitlith
@kitlith 10 ай бұрын
@GT1GT would you say that is still the case after the announcement of the price drop of the varjo aero to $990?
@pauldonohue4255
@pauldonohue4255 8 ай бұрын
I'm curious it says you can use steamvr and as far as i can tell from reading is that you can use oculus rift sensors and controllers. Is this true or am I wrong.
@JimBob1937
@JimBob1937 8 ай бұрын
As far as I know, that is wrong. It uses the Index base stations and controllers. They're a different tech than rift.
@pauldonohue4255
@pauldonohue4255 8 ай бұрын
@@JimBob1937 right thanks, I had read they'll support oculus tracking but via stream vr but I'm not 100% on that. It's wishful thinking. I'll contact the sales team direct to clarify but I think I'm wrong.
@JimBob1937
@JimBob1937 8 ай бұрын
@@pauldonohue4255 , yeah, pretty confident that rift tracking isn’t supported. I own the aero and have only seen steam tracking (HTC Vive and Index) supported.
@bakakafka4428
@bakakafka4428 10 ай бұрын
Is foveated rendering worth it? I'm told it needs support from each software, so unless the game supports it it's useless. Checking my library, I find very few references of support for this.
@jlepage36
@jlepage36 10 ай бұрын
Others have stated that the Aero with foveated rendering has better performance than the HP Reverb G2 even though resolution is dramatically higher on the Aero.
@speedvr829
@speedvr829 10 ай бұрын
Just ordered mine today. £1087 with face cover for glasses Inc vat and tax. So excited. So glad I waited. Also purchased a single lighthouse v2 £169. That's me sorted. Did your headset take long to arrive?
@JamieP_77
@JamieP_77 10 ай бұрын
Hi, will you get import duty on this? Also, where did you order the base station from? Many thanks.
@lynx3n
@lynx3n 10 ай бұрын
A single lighthouse is gonna be bad unless you're using it for sims where you only face forward, you'll lose tracking easily
@speedvr829
@speedvr829 10 ай бұрын
I'm only using it for flight and sim racing. 1 x base station is all I need.
@lynx3n
@lynx3n 10 ай бұрын
@@speedvr829 Oh nice! Just wanted to make sure you weren't about to have to go through the pain of waiting for another delivery lol
@choppergirl
@choppergirl 8 ай бұрын
@@lynx3nWhat if you use no base stations at all, and just buy the headset alone. I just want lots of immersive virtual desktops.
@pizzafan98
@pizzafan98 10 ай бұрын
Sir , if there wasn’t a budget like money did not matter . What would be the best of the best V.R headset ?
@morgue502
@morgue502 4 ай бұрын
probably the varjo xr-4 focal edition
@grigoryalexandrovitchpecho6934
@grigoryalexandrovitchpecho6934 9 ай бұрын
If you could get it for 1000, which is the current price, would you get it over the quest 3? I do pc VR mainly, tactical shooters and I need clarity at a distance.
@StarBellySneetch
@StarBellySneetch 8 ай бұрын
100%. Varjo works like it is supposed to and the clarity, once in game, is as clear as your GPU can make it. You will need base stations.
@grigoryalexandrovitchpecho6934
@grigoryalexandrovitchpecho6934 8 ай бұрын
yeah the price on those is now the major deterrant. Between the knuckles and the base stations, it ends up more expensive than the crystal, so I'm leaning towards that. @@StarBellySneetch
@kristaps2010
@kristaps2010 7 ай бұрын
I want to play Assetto Corsa, Assetto Corsa Competizione, Dirt rally 2.0. After price drop it could be a not a bad VR for simracing.
@lbenegas
@lbenegas 11 ай бұрын
I am trying to build my set up. Quick question: what about meta quest 2? Is it any good as a starter kit?
@VirtualRealityPilot
@VirtualRealityPilot 10 ай бұрын
It’s a good place to start, it’s inexpensive and relatively easy to set up. It’s not the best picture of a VR headset but good value for money. It will allow you to see if VR flying is for you.
@Adamitar
@Adamitar 10 ай бұрын
Hello man, i wanna new VR change my actual Quest 2 i think about Aero or Crystal? What you preffer? I got 13900k 4090 so HW its not big problem. Thanks for answer! 🙂@@VirtualRealityPilot
@Kraeuterbutter
@Kraeuterbutter 10 ай бұрын
i would consider the Pico4 instead of the quest2 have both and since i have the PIco4 i honestly never use the Quest2 anymore only for standalone-Software which is from meta and not available on the pico4.. but meanwhile most titels are also on the pico4 store
@Kraeuterbutter
@Kraeuterbutter 10 ай бұрын
that said: i would wait 1 month and get a Quest3
@Dougie085
@Dougie085 9 ай бұрын
Now that this headset is half the price it was, for space sims do you think this is the best option over the Bigscreen Beyond? The lenses on this seem to be a better match, my main concern with the BS Beyond is the glare issues people complain about, but I really love the micro oled's.
@thenoobreturnz8968
@thenoobreturnz8968 9 ай бұрын
200hz vs 90hz
@CTde110
@CTde110 9 ай бұрын
@@thenoobreturnz8968what about it?
@JimBob1937
@JimBob1937 8 ай бұрын
@@thenoobreturnz8968 The Aero is 90 Hz, the BSB is 75/90 Hz.
@JimBob1937
@JimBob1937 8 ай бұрын
I have the Aero and it's a good headset. Unfortunately it has a blur, and jerky double image issue with head movement. It doesn't bother everyone, but if you're prone to motion sickness it's something to keep in mind. I purchased the BSB to see if it's better in that respect.
@RockBandPlayer84
@RockBandPlayer84 6 ай бұрын
All the Bigscreen Beyond headsets that were sent out were not retail headsets. Bigscreen will probably fix the glare before releasing the retail version
@paulsaunders6536
@paulsaunders6536 10 ай бұрын
Depends. You need a good graphics card, RTX 3090 min, plus a good CPU. It you aren’t running a Reverb G2 at 100% VR settings then you won’t be getting anywhere near 100% with an Aero. Plus you need 2 base stations and possibly a sound set up to clip on the headset. I run a Reverb G2 with a recently purchased 4090. In IL2 BoS I have in game settings on Ultra, with one or two down a notch. No upscaling in the headset. Solo flying I get 90FPS all day, no Motion Reprojection. Except over Normandy where FPS drops to the low 60s over large built up areas. For small to medium dogfights on other maps I can leave MR off to avoid ghosting. Over Normandy I need MR on for smooth dogfights. If I threw an aero into the mix I’d be back to upscaling and MR as a default. I’ll stick with my G2. I’ve read reviews from those who made the move and the improvements aren’t as big as they expected. In the U.K. the bottom line would be North of £1500 including taxes. Not cheap, even with the reduction.
@Rlaxox
@Rlaxox 10 ай бұрын
Do you own varjo aero or not because all I'm hearing is that from people that have it that they get better performance in varjo with significantly improved clarity.
@user-mc7bh9yg9k
@user-mc7bh9yg9k 8 ай бұрын
At $900 now. definitely worth it! I love using this headset in MSFS.
@H.Pierre0
@H.Pierre0 8 ай бұрын
Do you think it is comfortable to watch movies on it?
@choppergirl
@choppergirl 8 ай бұрын
I'm tempted to get it as an alternative to an ultra wide monitor for sims but mainly work and seamless screen real estate.
@behindthen0thing
@behindthen0thing 7 ай бұрын
porn @@H.Pierre0
@bdog7262
@bdog7262 10 ай бұрын
What kind of hardware does one need to get full potential out of this?
@x32i77
@x32i77 10 ай бұрын
Rtx 4090
@bdog7262
@bdog7262 10 ай бұрын
@@x32i77 will the 4090 run it at max settings with room to spare? I’m looking at future proofing. Lol
@x32i77
@x32i77 10 ай бұрын
@@bdog7262 it's exactly perfect for running the aero resolution at 100% in steam 🙂 what games you wanna play ?
@Kraeuterbutter
@Kraeuterbutter 10 ай бұрын
@@bdog7262 there is nothing faster than a 4090 for consumers in the moment.. so: more futureproofing is not possible in the moment
@GartenOHM
@GartenOHM 7 ай бұрын
I just got the pico 4… now why am i watching this… I Play warthunder, IL2, DCS and its Not anywhere NEAR as a clear Image on the monitor… is This normal ? 😮
@T.K.9
@T.K.9 9 ай бұрын
The pimax seems nice, but that price £1600 😢 Varjo Aero with tax js £1030 But you can see why Aero dropped the price. With the price difference, the Aero is easy pick. But if price is not an issue, pimax seems nice too
@owainwright6055
@owainwright6055 7 ай бұрын
I just don’t get some companies. Why would you choose to cripple yourself by not including decent audio?
@SIM_STA710N
@SIM_STA710N 7 ай бұрын
I bought the Pimax Crystal before the the Varjo Areo price drop so the Varjo wasn't an option ( £1700 vs £2599 ) If I was looking now for a new headset it would be between Varjo Areo and Big Screen VR . Don't get me wrong the Crystal display is great but IMO everything else about it is awful.
@11sHangar
@11sHangar 7 ай бұрын
Packing my crystal up for return right now. Had it one day, not impressed.
@m0rph3u5.
@m0rph3u5. 11 ай бұрын
Of course, it going to be the best out there when USAF use Varjo products for training their pilots. It has been out for a while and still beats the newer high end VR like Pimax Crystal and of course BSB. But , might be worthwhile holding off to see what Valve & Somnium offer
@kevinbrook7033
@kevinbrook7033 11 ай бұрын
I haven't tried either, but I haven't seen a single reviewer of both who doesn't think the Crystal is much better. Sharper, better colours, better blacks, better FOV, better audio. the Crystal is probably an uncomfortable, hulky beast, and I expect the Aero has better software, but I haven't seen anybody recommend the more expensive Aero over the Crystal for someone considering buying either of them now.
@m0rph3u5.
@m0rph3u5. 11 ай бұрын
@@kevinbrook7033if you are a VR enthusiast, surely you've heard of SadlyBradly and ThrillSeeker and their take on Crystal vs. Aero. If you are a VR simmer, surely, you've heard of the VRFlightSimGuy who although loves the Crystal still recommend Aero. I wouldn't listen to people who own the Pimax or were given them for frree or associated with them, of course they're gonna recommend the Crystal. I mean don't get me wrong, the Crystal on paper, sounds much better than the Aero, but the negativity about Pimax as a whole (from non-Simmers) is scarey
@JohnVanderbeck
@JohnVanderbeck 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, no. Sorry m ate but the FOV is vastly better on the Crystal, with the same or higher PPD Clarity. The Aero certainly has better software and better ergonomics, but it is not a hands down better.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere 11 ай бұрын
The headsets militaries use is not the consumer Aero, but their highest end Varjo XR-3 Focal Edition model. The consumer Aero has lower resolution than Crystal and lower quality lenses.
@m0rph3u5.
@m0rph3u5. 11 ай бұрын
@@Nobody-Nowhere I am aware of that mate, hence I mentioned " *Varjo products* " as opposed to Varjo Aero.
@x32i77
@x32i77 10 ай бұрын
990$ now 😍
@MrCrrispy
@MrCrrispy 10 ай бұрын
Well, with the huge price cut, it might be 🙂
@OhShunz
@OhShunz 9 ай бұрын
$900 is half off?!? 😱😳 holy cow
@VaticanTop
@VaticanTop 4 ай бұрын
Quest 3 makes this look ancient
@Dropbear64
@Dropbear64 10 ай бұрын
I get 90 fps in DCS using steam VR
@cpunktspunkt748
@cpunktspunkt748 7 ай бұрын
The warjoe
@atriusvinius319
@atriusvinius319 10 ай бұрын
Aero - The FOV is not there yet
@choppergirl
@choppergirl 8 ай бұрын
I bought some DJI FPV goggles and they swwcked
@t3chnod3lic
@t3chnod3lic 9 ай бұрын
Would of purchased it but that rotten vertical fov put me riiiight off. No wonder they dropped the price. Needs another price drop. It may not bother some people, but in nearly every review I looked at, the vertical fov was always mentioned.
@RockBandPlayer84
@RockBandPlayer84 6 ай бұрын
Couldn't you just fix your audio streaming problems with the Varjo Aero by plugging your audio solution directly into your PC instead of into the headset?
@tarksable
@tarksable 8 ай бұрын
Prices haven't changed here. The Varjo costs almost the same as a 4090.
@KlearChristal
@KlearChristal 8 ай бұрын
Prices of it was slashed 50%. Varjo used to cost 2k$ USD. Now it's 1k USD
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch 9 ай бұрын
I believe it's pronounced "var-ee-oh" or "var-yo"
@D-money813
@D-money813 11 ай бұрын
at $1,990 no. its about to be 2
@x32i77
@x32i77 10 ай бұрын
It's 990$ now 🤗
@D-money813
@D-money813 10 ай бұрын
@@x32i77 i wonder if anyone who purchased one recently before today is doubled over with their face in their toilet
@majesticpbjcat7707
@majesticpbjcat7707 10 ай бұрын
Wait, is it pronounced Var-jo or Var-yo? I thought it was pronounced like Var-yo.
@xavierhanson7760
@xavierhanson7760 9 ай бұрын
You are correct. Its Var-yo
@C6v1999
@C6v1999 10 ай бұрын
Thoughts after todays permanent huge price drop to 990?
@VirtualRealityPilot
@VirtualRealityPilot 10 ай бұрын
It’s even better value for money - lots to like 👍
@Killswitch1411
@Killswitch1411 10 ай бұрын
I sold my Var Joe... It was time..
@majesticpbjcat7707
@majesticpbjcat7707 10 ай бұрын
Vario
@Killswitch1411
@Killswitch1411 10 ай бұрын
@@majesticpbjcat7707Because how the guy says Varjo in the video.."Jar Joe" 🤣
@majesticpbjcat7707
@majesticpbjcat7707 10 ай бұрын
@@Killswitch1411 no I get it 🤣
@gradocchio
@gradocchio 10 ай бұрын
€990 +VAT now!!
@VirtualRealityPilot
@VirtualRealityPilot 10 ай бұрын
Absolute steal at that price :-)
@gradocchio
@gradocchio 10 ай бұрын
@@VirtualRealityPilot actually €1,438.69 with VAT and 1 Base station delivered to my door here in Spain... 😁
@umbassa
@umbassa 9 ай бұрын
@@gradocchiostill an absolute steal considering it costs double that price normally.
@dizzychoonz
@dizzychoonz 11 ай бұрын
worth is a term thats bespoke to each persons pocketbook. For me... not worth the outlay over a g2. however when my father in laws house gets sold in a few months, then that term may become meaningless.
@VirtualRealityPilot
@VirtualRealityPilot 11 ай бұрын
Yes agreed worth is contextual, it’s a hell of a headset at a hell of price.
@TheLevitatingChin
@TheLevitatingChin 10 ай бұрын
Hell no.
@TJ-bx5px
@TJ-bx5px 2 ай бұрын
THIS HEADSETT is discontinued... 👎 no more... the end.
@Zakariah1971
@Zakariah1971 25 күн бұрын
$2,000??? No mic?? Seriously?? Fail!
@mccarthy86
@mccarthy86 10 ай бұрын
VR is awesome, I just hope you guys are getting enough exercise in the real world.
@kendil22
@kendil22 10 ай бұрын
Try VR boxing, you'll get all the exercise you can take.
@evenglemmestad7498
@evenglemmestad7498 10 ай бұрын
“The Model T Ford is awesome, I just hope you guys are getting enough exercise like us folks that still have to walk everywhere.”
@johnambers
@johnambers 10 ай бұрын
They shot themselves in the foot when they originally priced it so high and required a monthly subscription. Now they are trying to stay relevant with massive cuts but they are already surpassed by the Crystal. Very poor marketing strategy.
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