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Is the X-Carve worth it?

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DIYTyler

DIYTyler

8 жыл бұрын

Several months ago Inventables reached out to me to see if I would be interested in a X-Carve in exchange for my feedback on the machine. If it's worth it or not is your call but here are some of my thoughts to possibly help you make the decision.
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Pros:
Potential to be very accurate
Opens up a new dimension to making/woodworking
Allows me to complete other tasks
In expensive compared to other CNC machines
3d carving is possible
Cons:
Super accurate seems a little hard to achieve
Not super sturdy
Huge footprint (for the 1000x1000 anyway)
Takes a good deal of time to draw things that it will cut
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@donfillenworth1721
@donfillenworth1721 8 жыл бұрын
I really like your vertical storage solution! Thanks for sharing.
@balazssrancsik1691
@balazssrancsik1691 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, 4th second into the video, where he opened down that table, he had my thumb up
@xavantes
@xavantes 5 жыл бұрын
Hellyea man, that idea is simple and brilliant, I have an outfeed saw table like this, why not do it the same way with cnc? Perfect for small workshops.
@knight3131
@knight3131 2 жыл бұрын
Where you got the table ? Did you made any changes to it to connect it to cnc machine and have it fold against the wall ?
@MakeCrazydays
@MakeCrazydays 8 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these reviews. I like how folks feel free to give honest reviews instead of just praising the machine. No one would really expect a hobby or entry level machine to be perfect. It also sounds good that they are constantly making improvements over time.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
Gonna say what needs to be said! Very true, for the price I think this is a very good machine and it's easily upgradable. Easel is one of many software packages you can use to run the machine and it's constantly changing. Thanks for watching!
@brentnelson1590
@brentnelson1590 3 жыл бұрын
“The purchasing and receiving process....” but you didn’t pay for it 😂😂😂😂😂
@jamesgotcher275
@jamesgotcher275 7 жыл бұрын
Bought a 1000mm X-Carve for $1600. Beautiful machine. Tyler does a pretty good job of reviewing the equipment but a few caveats I'd offer are 1) the X-Carve isn't a hobbyist's, easy breezy CNC router. It's not plug and play. It's a complicated machine that I wouldn't recommend for novices or youngsters. If you don't know CAD-CAM and G-code you're in for a steep learning curve. 2) I was extremely disappointed with Inventables software. You can use Easel, which is only available if you have a reliable internet connection in your shop, garage, or wherever you setup your machine. The machine is noisy and dusty. The carver does not arrive with the software necessary to set it up, calibrate it, and test it as a standalone unit. Again you must go online with Inventables to setup the machine. There are programs from Vectric Ltd in the $700 to $350 range depending on the size of your machine. There are other even more expensive programs available on the WWW and if you enjoy practice bleeding you can scour the internet for bits and pieces that may be free. 3) The guys at "Customer Success" are pleasant to deal with but if your issue is software, they can't help you especially if you're a CNC neophyte because they don't have a solution for people who don't want to be tethered to the internet.. Had I known what I was getting into for $1600 I would have looked for a better supported machine.
@telelaci2
@telelaci2 7 жыл бұрын
"...X-Carve isn't a hobbyist's, easy breezy CNC router..." I disagree. X-Carve and Shapeoko, both invented to rip amateur, hobbyist, unadvised people off, who blinded by real enthusiasm. Professional people use very different machines.When you buy X-Carve/Shapeoko you'll get excellent workmanship, good support, even better marketing for a huge price. And a very cheap and humble design. These machines were not designed by professional mechanical engineers, that was not necessary because the customers are not professionals either. You don't need any technical data, and parameters, of a CNC machine because it's not important to you because you are not professional, you're not interested. You can see the sizes and the power of the spindle, and that's it, enough.They say such things: "Accuracy: A properly tuned and calibrated machine should get to a resolution of ~0.075mm to 0.13mm." This is pathetic, a bold lie, even a baby knows that resolution has nothing to do with accuracy, and they can say this because (I repeat again) they sell this to amateurs. You can push any long rail of the machine with 2 fingers, and it will go down about 5mm in the middle. Your 5 yrs old daughter can push the spindle with one finger, and it will move at least 1 mm, despite she's a weak little cute being. And this is the 3rd generation machine, imagine the 1st one!The parts you get in the boxes are worth about 30% of the selling price, and they don't even assemble it, you have to do that, and you are happy with that!Sorry for the harsh words, I just wanted to explain how badly you are mistaken.
@jamesgotcher275
@jamesgotcher275 7 жыл бұрын
For sure I'm not an expert in the engineering side of the equipment nor the many other technical points you make. I'm a hobbyist woodworker and was hoping to kick up my game with automation. I'm totally new to CNC. I found the machine easy to assemble and IMHO it's sturdy and an attractive machine. My frustration is with the software. Once assembled there's no way to use the equipment without an internet connection. Easel is only available online which means the machine must be tethered to the internet to avail oneself of the 'free' software. OR, you can buy some expensive software. OR, you can take the time and effort to learn the software side of the tool and then find the bits and pieces of software for free on the internet. I'll have to spend time and effort learning more about CNC software than I ever wanted to know since XCarve doesn't ship with software. I'll spend much more time learning software than I did assembling the machine, when I have the time to mess with it.
@jamesgotcher275
@jamesgotcher275 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! A helping hand is always appreciated.
@dotcombatgames
@dotcombatgames 7 жыл бұрын
Hard to call a toy a machine, my opinion.
@jamesgotcher275
@jamesgotcher275 7 жыл бұрын
$1600 is a chunk of change for a toy that won't work as a standalone if you're not connected to the WWW or running their $700 software package. In retrospect it wasn't what I was hoping for. Not X-Carve's fault.
@llossi
@llossi 8 жыл бұрын
I've watched a bunch of reviews regarding this machine as I am seriously considering adding a CNC to my arsenal, but your review is by far the most honest, fair, and informative assessment as to what to expect. As most folks thinking about such a machine, we all get super excited about the vast possibilities ahead of us, however, nobody wants to make a shallow decision that comes up short no matter how affordable the price appears. Unfortunately, previous reviews have appeared somewhat biased or skewed, so my hat is off to you for providing honest and straightforward information in assisting with future decisions. Thanks and I look forward to your future reviews!
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+llossi Thanks for the superb comment. Am glad people appreciate the honesty. Thanks for watching!
@PawPawsWorkShop
@PawPawsWorkShop 6 жыл бұрын
I love my machine. I have had it now for about 1 1/2 years. You did an excellent job with this review
@esteslandscaping6947
@esteslandscaping6947 6 жыл бұрын
Since you made this video, has Inventables updated the items you have gone over...??? Like the longer wires, y-axis issues..etc...
@vubhuhjkbhubohjb
@vubhuhjkbhubohjb 7 жыл бұрын
Building my own cnc machine I checked the xcarve out was so tempted but if you're confident enough to build a machine you can get a lot more bang for buck. I've managed to build a frame from heavy duty T slot profile, get linear rails with sliding blocks, ballscrew drive for all axis, nema 23's, electronics for under £1k. Some minor engineering work and a 2.2kw spindle I will still be well under an xcarve in the UK. My build space is 1.3m*0.8m. If you've built a 3d printer do yourself a favour and build your own cnc machine it's not much harder just get the bits made by engineering firm if you're not confident (It's what I did)
@chipkirk
@chipkirk 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have the plans for the fold out table? I love it!
@cencalmatt
@cencalmatt 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed and honest review of it. Best I've seen so far. I can think of tons of reasons I want one but haven't been able to justify the cost to myself, with it being an entry level. It's just my hobby haha.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+cencalmatt Thanks Matt, makes me feel better about posting this....obviously not our typical video. There are lots of things I want to use it for just need some time! Thanks for watching.
@NickDanzinger
@NickDanzinger 7 жыл бұрын
Considering the Shapeoko project was only in 2011 the improvement of these low cost home cnc machines is incredible.
@thesaltycarpenter5245
@thesaltycarpenter5245 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you for giving Zac a shout out!
@rholt2
@rholt2 7 жыл бұрын
I liked this very much - and the lift table - i hope you have a vid on that. also - one of the great things about the CNC machines is that you can make the "exact" same part over & over again. thanks, Russ from Coral Springs, Fl usa
@glennhitt6003
@glennhitt6003 8 жыл бұрын
Great review Tyler! I just got my 1000mm X-Carve working this week and love it. I am having some strange issues with the g-shield and think it is due to a cold solder joint on the board. Am really pumped to get to carving once I make a waste board. Thank you to all for posting videos. They all help us to learn more!
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Glenn Hitt Was super lucky to put ours together and it worked with no issues so far! Inventables has super great customer service and they will certainly help you out, don't hesitate to reach out to them. Thanks for the kind comment Glenn.
@joeyramonelookalike
@joeyramonelookalike 7 жыл бұрын
Hey tyler, I watched several reviews online and you're the first one not to mask out how painfully SLOW it is! thanks for the honesty.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 7 жыл бұрын
+Joey Ramone I will say this though, after upgrading to the trim router....WAY better.
@docfluty
@docfluty 7 жыл бұрын
which trim router?
@basthan1
@basthan1 7 жыл бұрын
Lonnie Fluty probably the Makita he mentions in the video????
@paulrcreech7731
@paulrcreech7731 2 жыл бұрын
X crave are top notch. I have had issues and there team were right there, they even replace some worn out parts , there the best. I updated to the lift and I love it. It’s cool to design and watch it do its job
@Duraltia
@Duraltia 7 жыл бұрын
@09:57 Might be slow *but* it can still do almost everything the other _dedicated_ tools can you'd normally have in a workshop and if you're like me without a workshop and the other tools I'd still say being damn slow is still better than not being able to do it at all =) I for one plan to make one or two 1:16th Scale RC Tank models mostly done from Polystyrol Plates cut to shape using the X-Carve and, where necessary, complemented with 3D Printed parts coming from my Formlabs Form 2 SLA Printer. Can't wait to get my hands on an E-100 =)
@saltwaterrook4638
@saltwaterrook4638 7 жыл бұрын
The Makita is what I use. Lighter, wider range of speeds, and more torque. I bought the mount for the 660? Or maybe it was the Colt. Either way, I used the spindle sander to take off enough material to utilize the Makita.
@aroldfut
@aroldfut 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video presentation as always Tyler! My 500mm x 1000mm Shapeoko II has had several modifications which boosted speed and accuracy. I wouldn't try to build a watch with it, but for so little money it performs admirably. I have spent less than $200 on upgrades including a Dewalt spindle. In spite of mine being way behind in terms of the latest and greatest, Inventables Customer Service has been bulletproof! I have no business relationship to the company, just appreciative of their responsiveness.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 7 жыл бұрын
Their service is second to non. Thanks for watching!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 8 жыл бұрын
The X Carve certainly seems to be built to a price point. That being the case performance is going to be a bit lacking. The stepper motors in it, and the timing belts, are not much bigger than you might see in some standard printers. A higher voltage PSU, and better motor drives might go some way towards improving performance. But the whole machine might not be able to take the power upgrade then either. Because the rest of the machine is not terribly robust either.
@diogowerneck5936
@diogowerneck5936 5 жыл бұрын
what do you suggest for someone whos starting but needs something that wont leave me struggling to produce?
@KSFWG
@KSFWG 8 жыл бұрын
I just really don't have much interest in CNC... And I don't have the space for it. And I can't really justify the price for something I would just play around with for a while and then it would gather dust until I sold it. Thanks for the honest video of your experience so far with it, Tyler. I, for one, appreciate it.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+KSFWG Thanks Dave.....I really have only used it a few times. After getting it all set up I was kinda disappointed in the performance and the results that I was getting. Made some improvements that helped and plan on making some more so the jury is still out there. Hey, can you email me your address so I can send you some stuff...you sticker is by far my favorite one I have gotten so far!
@ILC-eo6vk
@ILC-eo6vk 3 жыл бұрын
I want to make and sell clocks part time. Will the Shapeoko XXL be good enough? What else would I need, because I'm starting from scratch.
@kirkrogers6968
@kirkrogers6968 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I bought mine and it is on its way. Great review. I am hoping to get mine up and functioning soon.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Kirk Rogers Good luck man....it is pretty fun when you get it all working!
@Ricksastar
@Ricksastar 5 жыл бұрын
Wondering if you will be doing an update to this? Still using? Would you buy again? Etc.
@CCPW_chicago
@CCPW_chicago 7 жыл бұрын
Tyler, can you contact inventables, and have them send you the latest upgrades? I'd like to see the latest machine they built reviewed. They claim the newest fixes have changed the cnc completely. It's alleged to be precise, sturdy and beefed up.
@pokiejackson3364
@pokiejackson3364 7 жыл бұрын
I would also really appreciate this.
@walterkersting1362
@walterkersting1362 6 жыл бұрын
There's one at the library where I live, I'm going to try it tomorrow
@stratplayer10
@stratplayer10 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Well done. It's the first time I had seen this machine and I think you covered it very well.
@Broncort1
@Broncort1 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen several reviews on KZfaq on this machine and I don't think I'll be getting something like this anytime soon. Looks like they have a lot of bugs to work out yet.
@enzprintco.8625
@enzprintco.8625 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! In the first few minutes of this video he already made my decision to not even consider this one. Now that was 4 years ago...looking for updates info. So far the shapeoko looks promising. Back to more research :)
@mikethompson9745
@mikethompson9745 4 жыл бұрын
know this is and older video , but i'm just now looking into that machine, and to see you having to redesign their tool makes it look like I need to check out other brands. In no way would I purchase a machine then have to shop build the business end of it. maybe now they are better
@medardorubenmezavalenzuela6298
@medardorubenmezavalenzuela6298 6 жыл бұрын
Buenos días, gracias por suscribirme, estoy emocionado por la Fresadora True 3d cnc Carving, agradecere me informe como o que tengo que hacer para adquirir una y cual es el costo, graciaS
@2460speedy
@2460speedy 4 жыл бұрын
Reports about the bars being to flimsy on a 1000mm board. The motor supplied is not sufficient? The waste board is of MDF, not good ply. What do you think?
@Robbievigil
@Robbievigil 4 жыл бұрын
Is it for sale yet?
@AndrewScott1762
@AndrewScott1762 4 жыл бұрын
But how does I axis of Z put in together for this is at in as a remittances at counter production? Does how come this Y at axis because we are get the post of bit six router?
@ravenhart5796
@ravenhart5796 8 жыл бұрын
loved the review a no bones outlook on something most people are looking for but it is a big chunk of money to invest in . Being told about pros and cons before buying one is awesome. Thank You very much for the time spent making the video.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Raven Hart Thanks for the great comment Raven!
@craigchingren-hamann9700
@craigchingren-hamann9700 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Tyler. Been thinking about getting an X Carve. Are you still as happy with yours. Also have you found it useful?
@chip2567
@chip2567 5 жыл бұрын
Can I carve a section of board move it down and then carve more? If it won't fit on the X-carve, simular to the craftsman model?
@IHateScottSoMuch
@IHateScottSoMuch 5 жыл бұрын
Damn that fold out table is slick.
@victorarriaga4270
@victorarriaga4270 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guy very informative video. Do you recommend this product for a beginner.? If not what would you recommend.? Thanks for taking the time
@samadabdul1242
@samadabdul1242 3 жыл бұрын
probably worth mentioning this is from 2015.... A lot has changed since then.
@keysersoze5633
@keysersoze5633 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have the plans for the vertical storage solution? If you do, can these be downloaded/purchased?
@krystalschinella
@krystalschinella 7 жыл бұрын
whats the maximum thickness it will work with?
@bruce-le-smith
@bruce-le-smith 5 жыл бұрын
Would be a great to see a link to a 2018/2019 update on this, good job jumping in on this in 2015!
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 5 жыл бұрын
Updated X Carve coming in once we get our addition complete. Will have some words about that at some point! Gave this machine to a friend and it was still working great all this time later.
@lifestyle_on2hours
@lifestyle_on2hours 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Tyler. can you cut out letters and numbers about 30 inches tall and about 15 to 17 inches wide. Thanks
@davelee3207
@davelee3207 8 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you for posting it. I'm new to this x carve and don't know much about it or the technical terms that you used. I know that the people that are familiar with this do understand, but me being new didn't understand a lot of the things you said. I hate to sound like a newbie but it's true I am could you break it down for the Newbie like me thanks,?
@oxintheshop
@oxintheshop 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Tyler So I'm still on the fence about buying on of these. I have had other youtubers say it is good equally has many say don't buy it. So what you think?
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+The Ox In The Shop It certainly is a fun tool to have but I really don't have many projects for it. In my opinion it does a good job for the money it costs and it can be improved with only a few bucks. Hardest part for me is getting what I want to make out of my head and into a format that j can covert to usable code. Hope that helps and Good luck man!
@oxintheshop
@oxintheshop 8 жыл бұрын
thanks tyler also what are the think to improve it that you recommend
@adammaxey9089
@adammaxey9089 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have plans for the folding table?
@bn81159
@bn81159 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to know as well
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 4 жыл бұрын
On my site, for free. DIYtyler.com
@HolzMichel
@HolzMichel 8 жыл бұрын
hey Tyler, yours is perhaps the best review of this machine i've seen yet. everyone else who got one of these things has had issues with it and i have been contemplating into getting one down the road. the one i would do with it is build a much sturdier and heavier base and for some of my projects i would actually have to double up the size of the table. from the looks of the hardware and soft ware it doesn't seem to be an issue and it should be able to handle it. nice job on the presentation! cheers mike
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+HolzMichel All the software is based on a home position that you set and not on the actual size of the rails. You can make it as big as you like! Glad the review was helpful, thanks for watching!
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+HolzMichel Saw your interaction with Andy from Glass Impressions, good guy. I do want to say that the x-carve definitely isn't all peachy. I was SUPER lucky that it went together with no issues and pretty much started up fine right off the bat. There are a few issues I had to work out but because if this great YT community I pretty much new the solutions to common issues right away. I have the 1000x1000 machine and I do plan on adding some support in the gantry to help with deflection as it't not as sturdy as I would like. You mentioned a better base, absolutely....mine is on a folding table so I don't use up a huge footprint and I have not had any issues with vertical accuracy yet. If you were making printed circuit boards or something you would probably want a more uniform table and waste board. If you wanted to extend the machine even bigger I would recommend that you don't make the X axis gantry any bigger than it is, extend the two Y axis rails as you can support and stabilize these on the table. After having the machine for some time now I really do like it and am glad I have it. Having a trim router as the spindle makes a monumental difference in cutting time (but you wont have to worry about that since the dewalt 611 is the stock spindle nowadays) and the cut time was one of the items that I was most disappointing in originally. Getting fluent with the proper software to make what I want to carve is till the biggest drawback but that is a personnel problem and not a tool issue. Good luck man.
@HolzMichel
@HolzMichel 8 жыл бұрын
***** wow, great pointers! thanks!!
@Zeus-mo8et
@Zeus-mo8et 8 жыл бұрын
One thing with speed and the new spindle is that you should be able to carve quicker by changing settings see bob clagetts videos about aluminium
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
That is the main reason I bought that makita! Excited to put it on and see the improvement. Thanks for watching Sam.
@upstatecre8
@upstatecre8 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you for the review on this X card. Question for you do you think my students could use easel from their iPads? And if they could use easel from their iPads could they share their projects to me in my shop where the X carve would be located? We are entering a time where students are working from home in their learning environments.
@buckeyewoodshop
@buckeyewoodshop 8 жыл бұрын
When the Shapeoko first came out I was chomping at the bit to get one but wanted to wait and see results from other users first. Then the Shapeoko II came out and now the X-Carve. From what I seen out of all 3 I still wasn't convinced, and the quality wasn't there. I also had been looking at the Digital Wood Carver or DWC but it was about 3 times the $$$. In the end I chose the DWC and I am SO glad I did!!!! I purchased an almost brand new DWC on EBAY at a great price and with a full size 2hp router I can go thru anything just like butter. And the quality of the carving is excellent. I haven't tried aluminum yet but I'm sure projects will be so much better than what the X-Carve can produce. I guess if you can get an X-Carve for free tho, who's gonna pass that up? I know I would have taken it but I wouldn't be happy with it. I want SawStop to come a knockin!
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+imakewoodcrafts Well I wasn't about to spend my money on any of the machines so free is good for me! I agree the DWC or the rockler shark is a better machine but there is obviously a cost trade off. As you can probably tell from the video.....the X-Carve is good but my initial excitement has kinda been stymied....slow, not as accurate as I would like, loud, takes a while to program. But it's better than no CNC! Yes, please come calling sawstop! Saw one on CL for $1200 this morning!
@buckeyewoodshop
@buckeyewoodshop 8 жыл бұрын
***** Whoa!...$1200 is a steal!
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
imakewoodcrafts s yea.....someday! Have seen several pop up around here for about that price.
@buckeyewoodshop
@buckeyewoodshop 8 жыл бұрын
+Tyler G Hey is that $1200 SawStop in Columbus Ohio?...cuz just on a lark I did a search and it came up... I think this one is some kind of CL scam!?!?!?! The phone number under the reply is listed for a Witchita, Kansas praise ministry facebook page...lol
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
I don't see a location for the one I see. Somewhere in Macomb Michigan from what I can tell. Fully decked out tool.
@MrEh5
@MrEh5 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest review.
@cherylmarner8622
@cherylmarner8622 4 жыл бұрын
If I bought one could someone put together for me?
@JB-uj8mz
@JB-uj8mz 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have an opinion on a CNC router higher in quality than this model?
@dannymakwana5766
@dannymakwana5766 4 жыл бұрын
I want to make this project in my B.E. final semester.
@peterr5399
@peterr5399 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! Would you still recommend a few years later? I'm close to pulling the trigger on one of these but struggling with the $1,600 price vs something like BobsCNC for half the price. Anything better you would recommend? Do you know if they ever go on sale? Thanks!
@Brangustx
@Brangustx 4 жыл бұрын
What country is the X-carve manufactured in?
@isenbergj
@isenbergj 6 жыл бұрын
Have you looked into Mach 4 software. Very easy to use.
@edwardabgarian6431
@edwardabgarian6431 8 жыл бұрын
Very honest review, thx so much for people like U on the net...
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Edward Abgarian Thanks Ed, appreciate the feedback!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Nice honest review of the machine Tyler. I am of the same mind in that I can cut something out and fair it all out in the time it takes to get the .svg file complete and then create the file for the machine to actually start cutting the piece. Maybe someday when I may have more room, or a justifiable use for it. For now, not for me. I still do like watching others make stuff on them though!
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
It does open some doors which is pretty exciting but yes....slow. Will have to be creative with the video of the CNC cutting, not super exciting but glad to know you like it! Thanks for watching Guy!!
@BenBrandt22
@BenBrandt22 8 жыл бұрын
Great summary Tyler. Back in college I had access to our CNC machines in our metal shop and it was great. I miss having access to that kind of "digital manufacturing" capability. Much like you I think I would enjoy having a cnc router like an x-carve but can't yet justify the cost. Inventables, are you listening?? :-) I can see that for basic shape-cutting the bandsaw often wins out, but once you get into more complex parts with pockets and more precise interior features the CNC could be the better option.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Brandt Thanks Ben. It does open up a whole new world for me. Am excited to improve on it and try some other techniques.
@danielebling
@danielebling 4 жыл бұрын
I wish they would send me an x carve . I just started a cabinetmaker apprenticeship
@joeymerrell8585
@joeymerrell8585 4 жыл бұрын
Not quite big enough for cabinet making. Maybe some small detail work or a few small pieces. I tried it, got rid of it and went to a full size.
@wolvegreen
@wolvegreen 8 жыл бұрын
Well done. That is a real, excellent review. Thorough, and this is an example for any reviewers to reference from (how to do a product review) !! Thanks.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Cino Nim Wow, thanks for that comment Cino!
@boatbuilder1
@boatbuilder1 5 жыл бұрын
I had a cnc milling machine but all I knew was G-code and a person should know Cad/Cam and be efficient with it to get the most out of this machine or any cnc machine. If you don't know G-code or Cad/Cam you are not going to like this machine or know how to use it before you learn the how to program it.
@beanhole69
@beanhole69 8 жыл бұрын
Be careful spinning the stepper motors by hand. When you do that it generates electricity which can damage electronics. You might not be able to generate a high enough voltage, but it's possible. Just an FYI.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+BeanHole Inventables has taken this into account and set up the machine such that if you move the motors by hand and it does generate enough current it will spin the cooling fan. You can probably still move them fast enough to over load but I haven't seen it happen with anybody yet. Thanks for looking out though!
@beanhole69
@beanhole69 8 жыл бұрын
Cool! Good to know!
@mwa1252
@mwa1252 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that pull down table? I want one.
@matt_williams1015
@matt_williams1015 8 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I was really set on getting a cnc, but several reviews have been luke-warm to whether it is really worth investing in right now, and so I may hold off. And the space needed for one, I just don't have right now. It seems the price is its best quality
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Williams I really think it depends on what you would like to make with the machine and the time frame you want to complete these tasks. It is fun to have!
@kenf2662
@kenf2662 3 жыл бұрын
X-Carve the only CNC that is comparable to this one, is the I built my CNC router out of wood (video).
@robertcasey7312
@robertcasey7312 4 жыл бұрын
I’d like to have seen it in use. Great video, TY.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chucklyman8161
@chucklyman8161 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like from your video that there is still several issues with this machine, for the money, that should have been resolved prior to shipping. These issues should not be part of the learning process for the user. He or she is interested in use, not repair or changing basic parts or fixtures in order to use.
@codewarrior65
@codewarrior65 4 жыл бұрын
So I am watching this in 2020, how is it working for you now?
@CraneGuru
@CraneGuru 4 жыл бұрын
LOVE the storage rack - - any chance you can provide us the plans ?
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 4 жыл бұрын
Can find them on my website Kenny, free for download.
@urwanoor2600
@urwanoor2600 4 жыл бұрын
How much does this machine cost?
@ShadeTreeCNC
@ShadeTreeCNC 8 жыл бұрын
nice review. looking forward to those projects.
@antoniorios3856
@antoniorios3856 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stand, would do something similar
@mikemussmann5927
@mikemussmann5927 6 жыл бұрын
Thinking about buying one of these for my shop. Have you tried cutting any 1/8" aluminum sheeting with it? How did it go?
@5cyc
@5cyc 6 жыл бұрын
That drop down work bench is perfect.
@Blackrain4xmas
@Blackrain4xmas 8 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE mine, but there is definitely a learning curve
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Blackrain4xmas After upgrading the spindle on mine it is MUCH much better and faster to use. Just need to get a better handle on the programs I use to generate my code.
@Blackrain4xmas
@Blackrain4xmas 8 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat re programs. Easel is nice, but limited and slow imo. I have BobCAD, but it's too complex and haven't figured it out yet. Only been play w this for 6 mos or so though
@mikegager
@mikegager 8 жыл бұрын
youll love the new spindle. it will make things SO MUCH faster!
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+mike gager Hopefully I can get it mounted this weekend. Want to play around with Chilipepper as well. Thanks for watching Mike!
@JustMakeIt
@JustMakeIt 8 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if Carbide 3D would be sending some Shapeoko 3's out to people to compete against the X-Carve, but it doesn't look like they're interested. I'd love to watch a comparison video between the two.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Just Make It From the chatter I hear Carbide is having some supply issues. I agree, would be pretty cool to see them side by side. Jeff Ferguson has a review of his Carbide machine if you cared to check it out. kzfaq.infovideos
@JustMakeIt
@JustMakeIt 8 жыл бұрын
I found his videos about a week or so ago and I look forward to more from him. I've got some CNC specific work I want to start doing and I'm just waiting to get more info on that machine before I do anything. Sure there are bigger and better machines than these two offerings, but spending that kind of money isn't how I want to get my feet wet.
@snappytom8818
@snappytom8818 8 жыл бұрын
Really good review mate. Honest and to the point. Keep up the good work!
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Noonan Thanks Chris!
@alexpolicastro2804
@alexpolicastro2804 6 жыл бұрын
Should do an update video with the new one.
@SpecialWorks
@SpecialWorks 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Tyler, I would like the same cnc buy and would like to build in my Workbench. fit my SketchUp plan it would be a great train you if you could give me the maximum outside dimensions of yours. Thanks 😄 by the way, great explanation!
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 7 жыл бұрын
Table is 40"x40". Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
@pedritoarendsz2606
@pedritoarendsz2606 6 жыл бұрын
Special-Works l
@MrRenoman2011
@MrRenoman2011 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tyler Great video
@tjwoodworkshop1411
@tjwoodworkshop1411 8 жыл бұрын
Great review. When the x carve starts carving, do you have to keep the computer connected? Or can you disconnect, if it's a long cut time?
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks TJ. You have to keep the computer connected....kinda stinks. I might try and set up a raspberry pi computer to run the G code on my machine....another day!
@JkCanvas
@JkCanvas 5 жыл бұрын
Great video with quality points both Pro and Con, truly an unbiased opinion. You mentioned several times about forums, which forums are you referring too?
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 5 жыл бұрын
The inventables community forum, wealth of knowledge.
@weyrunner2838
@weyrunner2838 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this slow cnc can produce a piece of work at the same time I am producing another, or is it like the machine is so un-reliable that I will need to stay and continually monitor, assist and adjust as it is running.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Wey Runner Since I have upgraded the spindle it is much more fun to worth with this CNC now. I have allowed the machine to run and made other parts and even went upstairs and let it do its thing.
@mfwoodshop
@mfwoodshop 8 жыл бұрын
Good review Tyler you laid it out nicely.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike!
@7418max
@7418max 8 жыл бұрын
I have a shapeoko 2, lot of frustration on the build side, the machine imo is a toy. in order to get decent performance a grunblau or cncrouterparts machine is needed. then again if you are in that price range save up some more and get a camaster, they are pure beasts.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+7418max From what I can tell the x-carve is a big improvement over a shapeoko but yes, its a hobbyist machine unless you customize it. Thanks for watching.
@AdventuresInDIY
@AdventuresInDIY 8 жыл бұрын
Good review Tyler! I'm just getting mine online.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris! Hope you don't have any trouble with it, was pretty lucky over here.
@asb1583
@asb1583 8 жыл бұрын
Tyler, where can I find more info about heat shrinking my belts when I assemble? Thank you again. Adam
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+Adam Barraclough kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZZ4hdSlvNCUoYE.html is a great place to start. Thanks for watching!
@CatNact
@CatNact 7 жыл бұрын
This was a very informative review, thanks.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, glad it helped!
@moedog5087
@moedog5087 8 жыл бұрын
For someone who plans to use this as a small business venture, is this CNC worth the money? Also, Do you have measurements for your vertical storage system?
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+moedog5087 It's good value for the money but be prepared to put a lot of time into making it a real good value. Send me an email and I can get you the drawing. DIYTyler@gmail.com
@MrOurchoice
@MrOurchoice 7 жыл бұрын
Tyler G , could I get the drawings too ? , fastcad@live.com
@bestyoutubernonegraternumber1
@bestyoutubernonegraternumber1 Жыл бұрын
Simple answer 6 years later: Is the xcarve free? Then yes, it is worth it. Do you have to pay for it? Then no, it was not ever worth it.
@rednotereso
@rednotereso 8 жыл бұрын
Great review Tyler You talked about upgrade the spindle (i think) Willl you please explain what you ment Tank´s Kristian / Sweden
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
+rednotereso You can easily replace the stock spindle (router) that comes with the machine with a larger, more powerful version. I have already upgraded the machine to hold a trim router and the results are much improved...faster, cleaner cuts.
@GetTheScent
@GetTheScent 7 жыл бұрын
really good vid dude, thx for it
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 7 жыл бұрын
You bet, thanks for watching Thomas!
@adambaldwin8692
@adambaldwin8692 4 жыл бұрын
Will they put it together for you?
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, why the cost is lower.
@paulrcreech7731
@paulrcreech7731 2 жыл бұрын
This video is old they supply Mikita and mounts now
@intjonmiller
@intjonmiller 8 жыл бұрын
It's the Daewoo of benchtop CNCs.
@acidrain55
@acidrain55 7 жыл бұрын
Jon Miller who's the best?
@intjonmiller
@intjonmiller 7 жыл бұрын
acidrain55 I really don't know. I spent a couple months researching my own build when I thought it was feasible but decided that the expense and space in my small shop were not options right now. The guys at CNCzone.com have all the info you could need. That and cnccookbook.com.
@acidrain55
@acidrain55 7 жыл бұрын
Jon Miller thanks, stepcraft looks good, only interested in these for making MDF moulds for vacuum forming. They all seem pretty weak. Just love the idea of the accurate cutting
@silvionunes22
@silvionunes22 6 жыл бұрын
You got me Ty.
@dairybarnwoodworking215
@dairybarnwoodworking215 8 жыл бұрын
Your video quality is amazing! What camera are you using for shooting video?
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Shoot with a Sony Alpha a5100 at 60fps. Thanks for watching!
@dairybarnwoodworking215
@dairybarnwoodworking215 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tyler! What lens do you use? Looks like you have a pretty deep depth of field.
@DIYTyler
@DIYTyler 8 жыл бұрын
Yea it's really good. Use a 16-50mm, just got a 55-210 but that won't be used in the shop.
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