Is There A New Hot Hatch Champion? (Cupra Leon VZx vs Hyundai i30 N 2023 comparison)

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Жыл бұрын

We pit the Hyundai i30 N against the Cupra Leon VZx to see whether our favourite hot hatch has been dethroned.
The Hyundai i30 N is available in sedan and hatchback (and formally as a Fastback, as seen here). It uses a 2.0-litre turbo petrol four-cylinder engine making 206kW (276 hp) and 392Nm of torque.
Incoming is the new Cupra Leon VZx, which uses a Golf platform and 2.0-litre turbo petrol four-cylinder engine with 221kW (296 hp) and 400Nm of torque.
Both cars are available with a wet-clutch dual-clutch automatic but only the i30 N can be ordered with a six-speed manual transmission.
The Hyundai i30 N Premium hatchback costs $54,700 (before on-road costs, or about $58,500 driveaway), while the Cupra Leon VZx costs $65,990 driveaway - about $7500 more than the i30.
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@speedy8935 Жыл бұрын

I own a DCT Fastback and it's one of the best cars I've driven. The steering is perfect, I love being able to easily switch between drive modes on the fly, and of course the crackle & pops complete the package

@MrSimon1909 Жыл бұрын

why didnt you buy a mitsubishi colt instead?

@Samuel-bu7xr Жыл бұрын

Can we just take a minute to acknowledge Tom's moustache. It's a brave move and whether it stays or goes, let's mark this achievement.

@camdcam Жыл бұрын

it has to go!

@recursion. Жыл бұрын

if you think that's brave you must be beta af

@CaptainSlow888 Жыл бұрын

Should probably point out that the tested Cupra is fitted with $2450 leather and sound package, $3600 brembo package, $1800 sunroof option and what looks like one of the matt paint finishes ($2300 option). Which brings it to $75,140 drive away. The i30N Premium DCT is currently listed as $58,510 drive away... so the tested Cupra is around 30% more expensive and in the same territory as the Golf R pricewise.

@42degrees86 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't have the leather and sound package as it's standard on the VZX and most wouldn't need the Brembos the standard brakes are good enough. So take that out of the equation and it's below golf GTI money.

@CaptainSlow888 Жыл бұрын

Yes but the point I'm making is that the tested model is $73,190 on road (just checked the Cupra website) which I think should have been stressed a bit more during the review. Especially for example when commenting that the Cupra's brakes are better even though they're an very expensive option. The added options make it $14,680 more expensive than the I30N Premium (with sunroof) whereas the review states a few times its only about $10K more. The Golf R is listed as $72,389 driveaway so it is a direct competitor to this optioned up Cupra which could have been mentioned during the review considering he references the Golf GTI a few times.

@JP-hh2qj Жыл бұрын

@@CaptainSlow888 you bet mate..

@fachadolid3030 Жыл бұрын

The cupra is 100x times better than hyungay

@Rubeenm Жыл бұрын

@@fachadolid3030y esa foto de perfil

@42degrees86 Жыл бұрын

Great review! It seems Cupra has done a great job at dialling in some engagement into the cars while still being refined.

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

That is the vibe.

@42degrees86 Жыл бұрын

@@chasingcars that's why put a deposit down on Formentor VZX, seems a great package. Is there a review on the Formentor VZX incoming?

@hsv215i Жыл бұрын

Cupra is nice but the I30 seems to be the no brainer. As Tom said the I30 is better quality and its $10k cheaper!

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Really depends on spec Leon VZ 180kW sits between an N and an N Premium with the same power/weight ratio If you want the VZx 221kw yeah, it’s $7500 more than a Premium, so not cheap.

@madjh8 Жыл бұрын

You can even choose Brembo brakes option in the León if you whant to track the car, not for daily use. Quite common in EU, it is the cheap option of sportive hatchbacks to have funn, But for me the most interesting is the Formentor VZ 5. Some one tuned and has more than 400hp, and it is amazing how fast it is. From factory is ok, but if you whan to track it ... that option makes it quite fast. Very nice vehicles, they have the touch of seat, and perhaps seat Sport in Spain? Some previous models of seat were tuned by Seat sport and they were quite good.

@pauljordan7465 Жыл бұрын

Great video, love the mo,lol

@splinterz1365 Жыл бұрын

Pwah! After 7 Months of waiting for a Focus ST-X, it got canned, sad, as it was a very good, unique package, and actually preferred the torque converter with the characteristic and less slip off the mark at low speeds and honestly, I think I would have preferred it over a VZx (that I've ordered), just to avoid the VAG group and there lovely 'reliability'. Ironically I did the same comparison between an i30 and Leon and the i30 is just too 'always on', and plasticky. There isnt really much wrong with the touch controls in the Cupra, as the 'drive mode' button cycles you through all the drive modes, not just straight to Cupra mode, and your front demister has a button on the light panel, volume is from the steering wheel. Although even with a 5 year warranty I'm hoping that they've fixed the water pump issues with the EA888, as my 7.5 Golf was back at the dealer quite a bit :( I do think as a new brand, the Cupra brand seems to be a bit more appealing as its something unique and a little different... fingers crossed they do well.... Another month of waiting now, at least its on a boat. Also, from what ive heard, new orders on a i30 N Auto is 12 months, whereas theres a whole bunch of Leons on Boats now, if anyone is interested - So youre not going to be waiting a year.

@42degrees86 Жыл бұрын

I believe the water pump housing issue has been fixed with later gen EA888.

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Good points.

@marcpacey Жыл бұрын

Tom, great informative review. The Cupra looks so very nice - pricey yes, but so worth it.

@johnholst Жыл бұрын

Two awesome cars that we don't get in Korea. :( Love them both!!

@morganrutnum Жыл бұрын

You don’t get the i30n in Korea?

@johnholst Жыл бұрын

@@morganrutnum Sadly, no.

@johnholst Жыл бұрын

@@morganrutnum We used to get the previous gen i30 when it was made in Korea. But they don't allow the import of Korean cars from other manufacturing facilities now. So, we also don't get the wildly popular Telluride in Korea either. :(

@morganrutnum Жыл бұрын

@@johnholst interesting. Korea is leader in Free trade so not allowing EU-made goods esp one branded by a local company really seems like a poor decision (in an otherwise great country). I find it sad given it’s the general hero car elsewhere in the world and I presume hot hatchbacks generally sell well in Korea so sales volumes would be good if it were sold? Does that mean you also don’t get the KonaN, which I believe is made in Czechia? The telluride choice makes sense however as a majority of us-market oriented cars aren’t sold internationally (esp. Europe) given sizing constraints. The only Korean exeption in Australia is the palisade which kind of sits in a class of its own here. A similar story occurs with American made large SUV’s for Japanese brands however and those aren’t exported to Australia or anywhere else outside of North America really

@johnholst Жыл бұрын

@@morganrutnum Please don't misunderstand me. Euro brands are certainly allowed in to Korea and they sell very well. However, Korean branded cars produced outside of Korea are not to be imported here. The reason is that labor unions here are downright militant. It was part of the cba. As for the Kona N, we do get that because for our market and North America, they are produced in Ulsan, Korea. And personally, I love hot hatches! But they do not sell well in Korea. We have few available in this market.

@vaibhavsingla8944 Жыл бұрын

Can you do a comparison for hyundai i30 sedan n line premium vs subaru wrx vs skoda octavia sedan

@c.s2001 Жыл бұрын

I bought a Skoda 3 years ago. The Cupra is a genuine competitor, if not a reigning champ. Time will tell.

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

We’ll find out. Hot hatches are honestly quite niche in Australia now, so Formentor will likely outsell Leon by a big margin, but for enthusiasts this is a good thing

@Madest_Max Жыл бұрын

Competitor? Man, it's the same car! 😂

@davidperry3531 Жыл бұрын

@@Madest_Max No it’s not- the Formentor had a completely different platform to the Leon and Golf.

@scollyutube Жыл бұрын

Be interesting to even put the Formentor against the I30n Tom. I'd rather have that than an I30n, more versatile and probably still faster as well, let alone ski field access ability and more room etc..... Hyundai slightly sharper but that would be it.

@acasognp Ай бұрын

Hello from Mexico… you are right… the Leon is a Great hot Hatch… love it

@alexandergoldman Жыл бұрын

Wow, you're one of the very few people who pronounce it properly.. It's Hyun-DAY, which is correct (also, it's only 2 syllables and not the 3 syllables that they use in the UK). Well done and it's a small but important detail.

@LoftyVisions Жыл бұрын

Great review, Tom. I must say I love the i30n Fastback. Nearly bought one but, after years of driving turbo AWD Subarus, that awful axle tramp killed it for me. Test drove a nearly new GR Yaris and bought it on the spot. No comparison, unless you need the space of course.

@bobmitchell8012 Жыл бұрын

That Yaris is as Ugly as a Hat full of Arseholes.

@mharro88 Жыл бұрын

Easy engine mount fixes that. Sedan doesn't have any either

@malcolmscott4150 Жыл бұрын

Is it Cooprah Layon or leeon? Either way the Cupra is my choice as an i30 N is great but I want something without the budget interior and love the Spanish VW style exterior - my 05 Mini Cooper S had a blue interior and it made the car such a nice place to be in which almost made up for its other issues :)

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Cooprah Layon I think officially, but Leon is fine I’m sure

@JohnLee-db9zt Жыл бұрын

So you’re not an enthusiast driver.

@eponymous7910 Жыл бұрын

Shame they don't offer the cupra with a manual box. Definitely a more liveable car but no less capable

@robertbull6895 3 ай бұрын

Nice comparison. Didn’t consider (or know anything about) the Cupra and its heritage when I bought my i30N DCT Premium. The Cupras I saw didn’t give me the sense of a hot hatch - rather an upmarket Proton with unusual colour schemes and badge. My choice was right for me but the Cupra has some chops!

@nicolasch7039 Жыл бұрын

The Cupra 300 and I30n hatch in my country(cyprus) are exactly the same price. Should I go for the cupra? I really love zooming but 80% of my driving is in traffic.

@madjh8 Жыл бұрын

Go for the hybrid version if your range is similar that in the Leon in electric mode, you will spend little and have the extra of the petrol engine. Thy one before buy, There is a video in this channel and the car is still funn to drive.

@madant7777 Жыл бұрын

SEAT Leon Cupra Mk3 was louder in some versions (with exhaust valves etc.) but they toned it down for this Mk4 Cupra.

@johngurney1069 Жыл бұрын

so if the cupra is cheaper than the i30 n for service where are they going to be service for a start, and how good will the warranty be. i will stay with Hyundai

@alastair9894 Жыл бұрын

With nearly 300 HP front wheel drive, you don't need a manual.

@vMaxHeadroom 11 ай бұрын

Find the extra change. Thats a huge amount of change!!!....The i30N is just such great value...

@yeejay6396 Жыл бұрын

Oh baby. Hatchy backy. ;)

@coldude2559 Жыл бұрын

70k for a hatchback..what a bargain...🤔🤔

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Welcome to 2022, and these are sophisticated performance cars…not cheap bangers.

@cabralad Жыл бұрын

I went into a Ford dealership, wanting to buy a Focus ST, I was told Ford are not taking any orders on the Focus or Fiesta. The Cupra looks like the Focus so 👌

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

One door closes, another opens

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

One door closes, another opens

@Mexxx65 Жыл бұрын

Cupra looks nothing like the outgoing Focus ST. And drives nothing like the outgoing Focus ST! And looked better to boot!

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Have you back-to-back tested the Cupra and Focus ST, Mac? Not aware of anybody who has done so in this country.

@yanlin1595 Жыл бұрын

How is this a fair comparison given there's a $20k difference ??

@XeLLKiller Жыл бұрын

im baffled how you did NOT compare the sounds in all modes. im heart broken

@WorldzMo5t3pic 5 ай бұрын

No lie, the 130N wins out for the _SOLE_ fact that it comes in a manual. What's the point of owning a fun car to drive if you don't get to enjoy the shift changes!

@mevlanisufi2100 3 ай бұрын

It's a 300 HP sports car. You can't get the most of it in a manual transmission. Nothing Beats the VW DSG. Try it for yourself.

@teddym2808 Жыл бұрын

I prefer my Ateca to a T-Roc R but honestly I prefer a Golf R to the Leon.. we are getting to Golf R prices, power deficit is minimum vs. AWD added weight of R (235KW). Leon does look nice and IS a great car but I prefer AWD with that much power, especially for future tuning headroom, and the Golf R just feels a bit more special IMO.

@upup209 Жыл бұрын

And it’s manual

@elavaro09 Жыл бұрын

Leon the best

@steveturnbull9542 Жыл бұрын

I30N sedan is the Elantra N in USA we get neither in UK

@anssitee 2 ай бұрын

After 2 years of battling with the Seat infotaiment and it's many flaws I'm switching cars.

@miraclemiler71 Жыл бұрын

This review is quite critical of the i30N.

@chloeleedow7250 Жыл бұрын

Audi RS3 does not have a EA888. Cmon brah that 5 pot engine one of the most iconic things the VAG group has ever built. Although you probably meant the S3. Good content as usual though, love the matt black paint that's where it ends. Any MQB platform vag performance car will not be ok till proper tactile buttons make their comeback which should be this year or early next year perhaps it's on its way either way! 👌

@obsessivecichliddisorder7258 Жыл бұрын

Although you can get the 5 pot engine in the Cupra in Europe

@EnShinNoi Жыл бұрын

Aren't these around $20k apart?

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

No. The i30 N Premium DCT hatch is $58.5K driveaway and the Leon VZx is $66K driveaway.

@piemanmusic Жыл бұрын

It also appears that Cupra is sponsoring a really competitive finance rate, so if you’re not dropping cash, the Leon may cost less week to week. Seriously considering one of these…

@RiXtn. Жыл бұрын

@@chasingcars your review says i30N $52.495 and $72.690 for the Cupra as tested price. You can't compare cars in this segment which are 20k apart. I would love to pay more for the i30N if the interior would be more luxury but it its what it is and I really like it. In my opinion the Leon is never ever worth 20k more in your AS TESTET VERSION than an i30N. It's exactly the same with the Golf's... spec out an Golf 8R and you are eeeeeasy over 72.000€. You can buy the upcoming new BMW M2 competition with 75.000€. And you can't compare a Golf 8R with an M2 competition. The VAG company is way to greedy these days...

@analysethis6061 Жыл бұрын

Nice review Tom. It would be interesting to see how they stack up against Subaru WRX and Honda civic Type R.

@tttropicano6720 Жыл бұрын

Hey Tom, I watch a lot of your Videos and the sound is just very monotone.

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that!

@jarrodglenister1248 Жыл бұрын

Great review Tom. So the Leon beats the i30 which itself beats a Golf GTI . It would be interesting to see it go head to head with the Golf R or like offerings from BMW or Mercedes.

@WebbyOnCars Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure which is more disturbing - the blue interior on the Cupra or Toms moustache?! 😂😂

@daweigo6851 Жыл бұрын

The moustache ha ha.....

@dheeradjlachman9658 16 күн бұрын

I30N💪

@gdawwg1125 Жыл бұрын

You rule in doctor who

@HarmanMotorWorks Жыл бұрын

Get an i30 Sedan N, latest interior, lighter than the i30N hatch, manual, track warranty, active everything, sedan versatility; end of story

@alexandergoldman Жыл бұрын

Cupra looks great, but it would be an easy decision to go with the Hyundai i30N for me. Looks and sounds great, amazing handling with a great warranty.

@jasonlewis2990 Жыл бұрын

I30 N all the way cause pass on the VW product, regardless of how cool or fast

@Damo1998 Жыл бұрын

Analogue gauges for the win on the i30 N

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Handsome cluster.

@mikuelable Жыл бұрын

Tom looks like a 1940s White guy in the review !

@cyrilmatthew2995 Жыл бұрын

Why VW not offering manual ....why give me one good reason ...

@arcticwhite8501 Жыл бұрын

A very small amount of Australians buy manual hot hatches these days. Same reason VW dropped the manual on the MK8 Golf R as DSG sales on the MK7 R outnumbered the manual something like 7-to-1. Very sad reality.

@CathodeRayNipplez Жыл бұрын

I'll take either of them, until the warranty runs out that is. Cupra design is cool, yes I am a juvenile 56yo. Touchscreens: Great on phones, cars not so much. Aussies wont be happy with the blue interior. Black or Grey everything.

@rudypufy8859 Жыл бұрын

I30 n ravlsff

@bobmitchell8012 Жыл бұрын

I don’t care if the Cupra is cheaper to run, would you really trust anything from the VW Group........by the way “Cupra” is just a reuse of the name that was used by SEAT, another VW Subsidiary,

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Would we trust *anything* from the Volkswagen Group? Sure, we would trust some things (like…warranty provisions being underpinned by statute in Australia, like our own assessment of vehicle dynamics from independent testing). If you’re alluding to dieselgate or emissions or something, I don’t really know how to help other than saying we’ve litigated the issue big time in this country already and Volkswagen lost

@stephantranquille6681 Жыл бұрын

The N30 is such a good option but compared to the new Cupra it fails to impress as much. I definitely won't be missing the boring + ugly looking and badly equipped ford focus but I am glad Cupra decided to come to the land down under to take its place.

@davidperry3531 Жыл бұрын

Tom, this is a great review. These two are hardly comparable though as the Leon has more power, more torque, is lighter, uses far less petrol, 3 year free servicing, premium interior. I really think the basic 140 kw V Leon will be the Best Buy when it arrives early 2023.

@alexandergoldman Жыл бұрын

Comparing base ICE engines, how much more expensive is the Leon? How about for similar mid-level trims? What about total warranty? Which sounds better? (The crackle and pops have to go to the Hyundai N). Does the Leon have a front diff? (Genuinely curious as I'm not sure). Sure, you think Leon, but I think the majority might believe the Hyundai is the better overall value..

@davidperry3531 Жыл бұрын

@@alexandergoldman Just look at the video again and you have to agree with Tom that the Cupra overall is the better car.

@alexandergoldman Жыл бұрын

@@davidperry3531 No question it's a competitive package. One thing that I'd like to do is to track the car occasionally and for me, you have to admit the Hyundai is the better fit. Also, SEAT is a new brand and their reliability is generally worse, to possibly much worse than Hyundai/Kia/Genesis group. There's a reason why they have to offer the generous warranty as a new startup brand... You can roll the dice..

@davidperry3531 Жыл бұрын

@@alexandergoldman The new SEAT has been around for about 40 years after VW took them over.

@alexandergoldman Жыл бұрын

@@davidperry3531 yes... that's the double whammy. VW...the two letters that are nit exactly synonymous with reliability

@mharro88 Жыл бұрын

The i30n sedan is better than both of them.

@xili0966 Жыл бұрын

the Leon VZx is way too overpriced, especially considering it gets destroyed by the Golf R in performance. I wish there are more reviews of the Leon VZ which much more sensible.

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Some points. 1. Golf R is like $5K more driveway. Arguably still good value in 2022 2. BUT - you can’t get a Golf R! Massive waits and big markups 3. Classic hot hatch dynamic remains FWD simplicity It’s not as simple as just get a Golf R

@xili0966 Жыл бұрын

@@chasingcars i dunno, still its worth it to stretch to a Golf R for $5k with AWD. but paying $15k more for a Leon with more power you cant really use... a bit dubious

@42degrees86 Жыл бұрын

Leon VZX is a better looking Golf GTI club sport for Golf GTI money. Once you add the options to the Golf GTI to match the Leon VZX it is $68k.

@HaruHaruman Жыл бұрын

Good luck with another VW product. Will be a miracle if it lasts 2 years.

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

service your cars

@HaruHaruman Жыл бұрын

@@chasingcars oh I didn't know that most of the VW owners didn't service their cars? Is that why they break down every 6 months here and there?

@Mexxx65 Жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

I think you’ll find plenty who have a fine experience, and the odd owner from many brands who encounter unusual problems. Plenty of mates, family and myself have owned VAG product with utterly unremarkable reliability - so your comment is difficult to accept as some universal experience

@tengilaurel3777 Жыл бұрын

@@chasingcars 🤗🤗🤗

@unexplainedwearenotalone3537 Жыл бұрын

First u wrong compare Leon need vs i30 n or Elantra n put to right compare and sec u wrong Leon cupra is much better of that golf vs all stability flat sound and no need proof of i30n beat already golf or any golf best handle best stability flat and research Elantra n beat golf r check KZfaq find your self top of list hatchback is or killer gt real quick is Elantra n sec i30n and cupra and if u no get the point why cupra always be best of that golf u need research check video q3rs vs cupra formentor VZ 5 and cupra beat Audi or any VW SUV same size level like did cupra formentor VZ 4 better that rs3 very fast the better stability and cupra use haldex gen check cupra never spin any road rain or snow top.

@keithyco4009 Жыл бұрын

You say car brand names funny. It's 'Coo-prah', 'Hee-ahn-day'. I get they're said differently overseas. Is this a posh Sydney thing?

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Coop-rah and Hee-un-day are correct.

@lowkeyconvert8971 Жыл бұрын

@@chasingcars a lot of reviewers and regular people say Hyundai in three syllables (not just in Australia). but Koreans pronounce it with two. it's pronounced hyun-dae. Korean spelling: 현 대 (two syllables).

@tigerpsa4549 Жыл бұрын

Get Hyundai I30 N....it's way better..be smart mate!

@whelangc Жыл бұрын

Id rather the i30 N as the Volwagonish Haptic switchgear and interface would drive me made. I just want something that 'works' I30N is an icon . The Cupra is not

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Great knobs. But remember, the i30 N wasn’t always an icon…it’s only existed for 4 years! It’s an icon now, sure.

@Madest_Max Жыл бұрын

@@chasingcars And still managed to kick the Golf back to Wolfsburg. I can remember a guy in a decently high leading position at VW saying a couple years ago: "Of all our Asian competitors, Hyundai is going to give us the biggest headache." Seems to apply definitely.

@chloeleedow7250 Жыл бұрын

Free servicing.... @13,000 ks lmao who the fuck leaves a premium forced induction engine 13000 ks between services. I wouldn't leave a bones stock boring af Honda civic or Toyota corolla even 10,000. Whatever the manufacturer says to service it, take that amount of time and half it and your car might last out of warranty 😂

@Mexxx65 Жыл бұрын

Tom - you're definitely taking some sort of new drug.......A 65k Hatchback made in Spain, is the new hot hatch champion in Australia (Chasing Cars)? I'm old enough, and experienced enough, to remember when the Seat Ibiza Cupra 2.0 16v appeared on our shores. And a small number of aussie motoring journos heralded it as Australia's new hot hatch, rating it higher than the hot hatch king of the time the 205 GTI, and the VW GTI of the time....It was way off the Pug and VW GTI's hot hatch level..The car flopped, no one bought them in AU. So..my prediction for this new "Seat" 'Spanish" Cupra Leon, will be exactly the same. Historically Australians don't buy cars made in Spain. A 65k hatchback made in Spain you say Tom? And a rather cheap and nasty one at that..... And your main reason for crowning it as the best hot hatch rated by Chasing Cars right now...Is purely because of the demise of hot hatches sold here? Now this car might be half decent...but just like Alfa's, they just won't sell here. Cupra will disappear from our shores as fast as they arrived.

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

No, the main reason it’s the best non-luxury non-AWD hot hatch right now is that it beat the i30 N in this comparison, the i30 previously beat Golf GTI 8, and the Ford and Renault alternatives have been discontinued “Australians don’t buy cars from Spain” (conjecture) and being pissed off about inflation and supply crunches affecting car prices (applies to both cars here) do not have influence over the principles of vehicle assessment.

@Mexxx65 Жыл бұрын

@@chasingcars If I am proven wrong, And Cupra sell all the cars they have shipped to AU, and you see plenty of them about, than I will be wrong. I am sticking with my opinion. and its just that, a very experienced opinion nonetheless. A Manual Honda Civic Type R will sell here..this won't.

@davidperry3531 Жыл бұрын

Well that’s a boring and unsubstantiated opinion. What is the difference between a car made in Spain or Korea or BMW and Audi from factories in Mexico? Or Teslas from China; or Mercedes and BMW from South Africa or BMW and Mercedes SUVs from North America? Get with the global programme and accept that the Cupra is a world class modern hot hatch and I’m glad that they are sold in Australia.

@Mexxx65 Жыл бұрын

@@davidperry3531 Right back at you with that comment mate. "Well that’s a boring and unsubstantiated opinion. What is the difference between a car made in Spain or Korea or BMW and Audi from factories in Mexico?" Is EXACTLY the same comments I heard when Renault were trying to release the Renault 5 Turbo on our shores (we had the world most crapo fuel at the time), and when a handful of Seat Ibiza Cupra 2.0 16v landed on our beaches. BOTH were touted by aussie motoring jornos at that time as "world class modern hot hatches". And BOTH didn't end well in Australia. Get with the global reality mate. Spots on the Leopard never change. There is HUGE BIG DIFFERENCE.

@davidperry3531 Жыл бұрын

@@Mexxx65 Right back at you too...you are talking of the motoring industry as it was 45 years ago! Although the manufacture and import/export of cars has changed dramatically in that time it appears you haven't.

@Staff7A Жыл бұрын

Cupra. Everyday.

@WillAH956 Жыл бұрын

72g for a small hatch Tell em he's dreaming

@philgorringe2802 Жыл бұрын

Typical Hyundai shiny on top cheap underneath. Still a budget manufacturer in my eyes.

@daweigo6851 Жыл бұрын

The millions that buy them around the world tend to disagree

@bobmitchell8012 Жыл бұрын

No one will buy the Leon.

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

No one? Strikes as unlikely.

@Mexxx65 Жыл бұрын

@@chasingcars I'm sure some will be sold. A few. Depends how well they will be backed up with servicing in Australia. Even then, Aussies only ever looked at the old Seat brand because they were cheaper than VW's.

@chasingcars Жыл бұрын

Given I was an infant when Seat was last sold in Australia, I think it’s fair to say the brand has probably progressed in more ways than one in >25 years!

@zaamuro8408 Жыл бұрын

@@Mexxx65 pretty sure anyone looking at a performance hatch don't care or remember that it WAS a part of SEAT...

@Mexxx65 Жыл бұрын

@@chasingcars I certainly hope so. But I do not have high hopes.