The home owner should be pleased he chose you to do the job,otherwise he may have got a bad floor in a few years time, Good work you and your team 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧

Wire mesh police are watching. 100% fractured face agg base. You were saving that fellow a big headache. You gentlemen do nice work.

I was taught that you use sharp crushed stone under a slam because it locks together when it is compacted. You'd use round stone around a French drain perforated pipe because it doesn't lock together over time and the water will flow through it better.

I keep looking out my window and still don’t see one of those buildings in my yard. Nice job as always

Sometimes its hard to do the right thing on the job. Glad to see the homeowner understood the issue...thx Gary nj

I think it's nice of you to explain to the owner that it won't work that way with that gravel layer. there are plenty of companies that don't say it and only think about making money quickly. greetings from the Netherlands

Looks great you guys do good work

Yep you did the right thing! Your customer should be very happy he hired you! Mr Concrete Man

The client was lucky to hire experienced knowledgeable workers.

Nice job in the end. Great customer communications Ronnie.

Top notch content brotha!

You and your crew always do nice work

Couldn’t be more professional,awesome.

It’s so nice when you can pull right in the building!

Ron I think you did everything you could. What I don’t understand is why have a guy that doesn’t understand what needs to be done, do a job. If he is gonna have you pour it I’d just let you prep it . Then you know it right . Great job.👍🏻

The big biscuit is looking tone!

Nice. Enjoying the videos.

You have a good crew there.

Made this mistake once, long ago with an elevated parking spot. 3/4" washed stone. Customer called and told me he was getting stuck with his little Toyota sedan. Went out with a bunch of bags of cement mix. Covered the whole area and washed it in. Problem solved and lesson learned. Still drained pretty good. That stone will never settle in and lock without the fines.

Good job

Nice work brother.👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Grate job

Meat ball ,we call them footballs.over here we have to have chairs under reo . good to see u care a lot of people would try and pour it ,we love pumps in Australia,nice work like always.

That Biscuit is a good worker 👍

Good job men

What I got out of all of this big biscuit awesome name thank you for your videos

I'm in Oswego County. What ag did you put in to replace the round stone and where did you get it from?

What is the point of the metal grid if it is flat on the ground?

My dream shop

I'm glad I watched this... right now I'm in the process of putting a parking pad in next to my garage... and I was going to use gravel. I live in the inner city where it is difficult to run trucks/machinery due to low hanging wires. Do you know of a product that had stone and "fine", as you call it, that I can get from one of these big box stores... in bags like quickcrete? I'm going to have to go lookin' now... but I'm glad I didn't just try to use gravel.

Good call. That round river rock is problematic. A couple blocks down the street I noticed a homeowner put round, washed river rock on a drive a couple of years ago. Like you said, huge mounds of rock are pushed up every time they drive on it. Looks like crap and is a maintenance nightmare. Equally concerning would be that spray foam on the walls. It sure doesn't look thick enough to stop the dew point from happening in the wall cavity. All over YT people are putting a thin layer of closed cell then putting batten insulation up next to it as an attempt to keep cost down. Problem is that dew point forms where the closed cell and the batten insulation meet and lots of water is created and causes a shite ton of mold. Only option is to take the wall covering off, get rid of the batten and spray more foam to stop that dew point from forming. Huge nightmare and huge costs just by folks not understanding how a dew point is form. Love that shirt.

Wow, is that 3 mile island in the background? I mean 9 mile point power plant? How long before they come for that?

Nice work guys, I guess that is a classic case of a home owner acting as the contractor, thinking he would save money, but ending up costing more and time and trouble with the rock problem.

Other things apart, those concrete layers do not know what they are doing. They are NOT lifting the wire mesh. You can see this at all the edges of the poured concrete and the wire is right on the bottom, not raised at all. Apart from all questions of compaction (preparation stage), that poured concrete needs to be removed before it sets, to allow fresh pouring with proper raising of the mesh. The mesh should be raised to about half height of the concrete. The steel mesh will rust rather quickly and will offer no strength. They are pouring and smoothing. No wire pulling at all. The concrete will crack all over with very little force being required.

Round stone that size is non-compactable (same with pea-gravel). Round stone is great for wall backfill and under basement slabs as it provides good drainage and will not settle. Probably would also make a strong base for concrete slabs, but it would become rutted by concrete truck tires. An alternative might've been to lay down planks for the truck tires.

Non concrete guy here, never have done a pour. How do you screed up against a wall and out in the center without some kind of form or expansion joint? Does that concrete mix self level itself? I seriously have no idea and I wondered about that due to wanting to pour a small pad myself up against My existing garage footing. I believe it's a monopour slab. Would a large pad need a parameter footing? I was surprised that barn pour didn't blow out the walls? I'm just trying to learn about a DIY project I'm trying to do for My tractor I recently picked up. Btw, you turned that dirt floor barn into one hell of a nice workshop! Nice job!

Would using construction mats for the concrete truck to drive on prevented having to change the aggregate?

It all worked out because the homeowner got his drains in. Sometimes mistakes work out for the best.

learn something new everytime, also having second thoughts about a metal building to replace my 24X24 garage with the comments here and on other videos about condensation

Nice job it is a lot of hard work I use to do a lot of that as well as tend a mason up in massena for 10 years then moved down here in central square and started to drive big truck till I was forced to retire do to medical reasons but I still remember how much hard work goes into doing a big pour

That's a very thick slab!

Great guys🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺👍

Love your channel and your work. Not a fan of click bait title.

//..EXCELLENT JOB !!

Wavy looking job. I would also recommend pulling the mesh into the mud. Doesn't do another of good buried.

If thats the gavel that i use, its called screened gravel. Some places screen it better than others. Some is really clean, and ill mix concrete with it if im building things like fence posts. The research ive found says less than 20 loam can improve strength, but it will retain more water, also its a gamble on the composition of the fines. You may have organics for instance, but usually unlikely.

great job you call it wright

I sure wish you worked in Central Oregon.

Mornin Ron,

I'm guessing it should have been the crusher run that I always hear you talk about put down first ?

Why are you wetting the floor after you sprayed it? Are you wetting it with water and why

Man I do hate wire, I love fiber reinforced and also regular rebar. I can set rebar on bricks every yard or so. I'm never confident that the wire is doing anything! Outdoor with air entrainment and fiber mesh, have been blessed without any cracks.

Curious what areas in central NY do you work in, any chance Chenango county would be within range?

in norway we only juse stone like he puttet there in becose of the dreenage and we also need to just styrophone under becose of the frost

After having to get a lawyer to get my pole barn finished i came to the conclusion that if you want a pole barn, find a place with one already there. It was a year long nightmare. And the concrete guy was the absolute worst jerk ever cutting corners and leaving me with a cracked wavy slab. Beautiful work by you though!

It sounded like the main reason the round rock couldn't work was because the delivery trucks driving over it would mess it up, but pumping it wouldn't affect the stone. Any particular reason you couldn't pump the concrete? Was it more expensive to pump then replace the round rock with crush? Or is the round rock a bad option for a base material in a barn or other place where there's heavy loads expected?

At end of video you mentioned hes going to leave floor wet flooded ? Does this help with concrete curing ?

how do you get 4,000 pound concrete and 6,000 pound

An easier way to say what was wrong with that stone was that it was 'round, river washed stone', which as Ron indicated it don't pack at all. The reason why it don't pack is cause it's round and smooth. You need to use a 'chipped' stone, which packs solid cause it has 'sharp, rough edges' on it. edit: When I got to the 23.40 mark it reminded me of when I was young and taking a piss. Now that I'm old I don't have near that pressure. ROFLMFAO... Oh shit... I'm laughing so damn hard I got tears in my eyes.

We bought a 5 acre horse ranch in New Mexico in a high valley @ 7,800ft. First house built 1967, second main house built in 1978, both adobe. Real solid construction, mostly. The things we found under the ground. 220v lines unsheathed laid right next to the water lines, etc. The huge lakeshore rocks buried a million years ago, 6ft chalk layer down three feet under, etc. Like a mine field. The Ditch Witch ain't the answer to laying water/electrical lines. Lucky me, my neighbors have every piece of heavy equipment known to mankind, no charge. I wonder why? Lol! Pays to be a good, friendly neighbor. We give them jars of raw honey and eggs, they come right over. God is good yeah? 🙏

Wow you really saved the owner from the poor quality of the compacted material that was inappropriate for the job. Amazing that kind of mistake could be made. Question. I see in some of your videos use of stone in the bottom of a footing trench. As long as the stone is a fractured material even if it doesn't have fines in it, is that OK, or should you use a well graded material with fines or can you just mix some fines in? The fact you could just scoop up the "compacted" original material was an easy tell.

What is the sealer that you used ?

We done a garage for a person like that because he asked us to and it was sturdy later

We pour on top of 2b gravel or 2b air cooled slag all the time !! Never gave it much of a thought ! We would tamp the hell out of the ground before placing the gravel ! If we were pulling a mixer on the gravel we wouldnt mesh the whole thing till after backing the truck up raking the gravel into any ruts then placing the mesh back down !

Good thing that mesh is laying on the ground.

I feel for the poor guy having to wheel that big rock out through that gravel floor🤦‍♂️

How far East do you come to work?

I live in Massachusetts and the code says you have to cover that spray foam. It is very flammable. Always amazes me that hardly anyone covers it.

I would of placed half a pallet of sand mixed with half a half a bag of crete to 1 bag of sand someand then spread the sand crete mix into the rock water it and let it set up a couple days 😊

That stone is 1 1/2" washed river rock, it's decorative gravel for landscaping. I've hauled thousands of tons of that all over the country. Definitely not aggregate for concrete.

I'd love a Bondo shirt 👕 The Governor

You have to remember people don’t know what kind of base rock goes under concrete. I have seen them pore concrete on the bare ground with wire mesh. When I saw that job I told them I wouldn’t cutting the control cracks because in two years it will be all broken up. It didn’t last a year before it was coming up in chunks. They tried putting a car lift in and it wouldn’t even anchor to the concrete. They had to cut squares out and remove the concrete then dig two foot pillars to anchor the car lift . Six months later they took out the rest of the concrete and did it right plus they poured it six inches deep with wire mesh and rebar everywhere. This time there was crushed rock that tamped as hard as concrete plus a heavy vapor barrier. Ignorance is from not knowing but stupidity is for life.

what is the benefit of keeping the concrete flooded after finishing?

How Can You Pour A Slab That Size Without Any Grade Stakes?

Worse than the truck making a divot is the loose stone doesn't support the floor & might fail with a concentrated load.

Is that like an 8” pad or is the video deceptively deep looking

You guys do nice credible responsible work I'm just too far for you guys.

Big biscuit needs a shirt. Lol

over time repeated driving in one spot , wouldn't it push the rocks over and make a low spot and eventually crack the concrete. Just a thought

ive seen people use pea gravel before : ( its like little ball bearings.

Looks like Baby Huey is about to lose his shorts.

It’s not just that it doesn’t have any fines in it. It’s too smooth.!!!! Needs to be angular stone with the fines !

Who foamed the walls?

probably could have run the trucks in on wide planks .. looked like it was only trucks making a straight shot in, so no turning was actually required .. packing under 6 inches was likely irrelevant.

I can see why the wire mesh police say what they do. That wire mesh was left flat on the ground! I can't believe you guys weren't pulling it up.

I wish I had the no F's given confidence of the big shirtless man.

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Any concrete other then Vitale is good concrete

tell that one guy he should be wearing a shirt !

Could’ve laid some plywood down and used a power buggy

Thank God the forms held up . That would have been a disaster if one side let go will all that concrete

if anybody ever comes up with a way to get and keep the mesh up, they'll be a millionaire. i poured my own slab once, and i was the dedicated mesh guy. i even used sheet mesh. when i tore a piece out years later for a pier, it was only up 1/2" from the bottom. still a tough piece of slab.

Good job,a job that big u would think owner could afford a pump.

Nice winter for concrete work!! I was scrambling in late November thinking I was running out of time but I had 3 more months this year!! I always use reprocessed concrete under my concrete, it packs like iron. That "stone guy" didn't do his homework, round stone does not pack, not good for a base at all...

The client knew what was under the stone, you would have hit same stuff on posts

Here comes the mud 👍👍👍,what happened to the music 🎶

Only thing I'd be looking for in NY. Is the quickest way out.

Wow 48 yrds for 2400 sqft. The slab must be 6" plus thick.

Biscuit looks to be the laziest part of the crew.

I’m afraid that wire mesh is still laying on the bottom.