📉 Is this football's biggest fall from grace?

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10 ай бұрын

Formerly of Scotland's top league, East Stirlingshire now play in the Lowland League and their traditional home stadium lays abandoned!
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@ry_jayy
@ry_jayy 9 ай бұрын
"I couldn't support Rangers or Celtic." God I wish more people in Scotland had this mindset. I live in Inverness and it truly sickens me to see the hundreds of Celtic and Rangers shirts about and being able to count on one hand the number of Caley Thistle shirts I see in a day.
@grindelston5968
@grindelston5968 9 ай бұрын
Bad isn't it.
@tonyguyan9559
@tonyguyan9559 9 ай бұрын
@@grindelston5968it’s a massive shame! There could be more to Scottish football if everyone supported their local team instead of supporting Celtic or Rangers. Clubs like Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts and Dundee United should really be closer if they had more fans going to support them instead of the two Glasgow giants. You get clubs from towns like East Kilbride with a population of 70,000 plus not even having a league club. With a population more than Perth and yet they’re down in the Lowland League they should be higher with such a high potential fan base but yet I bet the vast majority support the Glasgow giants.
@GWJUK
@GWJUK 9 ай бұрын
They are supporting religion so you can’t really win.
@tonyguyan9559
@tonyguyan9559 9 ай бұрын
@@GWJUK sadly you are right!
@c0wqu3u31at3r
@c0wqu3u31at3r 9 ай бұрын
My cousin moved to Glasgow and started supporting Partick because of this!
@davidarmstrong1028
@davidarmstrong1028 10 ай бұрын
Your growth has been crazy Sam. Well deserved, you show Scottish football in a light that has been sorely and sadly lacking for decades. You literally almost have the same number of subs as Rangers n Celtic now 😂 incredible 👏
@Bakazinha
@Bakazinha 9 ай бұрын
BK Frem in Denmark won 6 championship titles and 2 cup titles from 1923 to 1978. They are now playing in the 4th best league and is in relegation to the fifth league. They are known for having really good fans, still supporting them after all those years. I remember watching them in a cup game where they were playing really good football and the crowd was amazing
@metalmadsen
@metalmadsen 8 ай бұрын
❤️💙
@c_hanley
@c_hanley 9 ай бұрын
Love the lower league content. I’m as much a fan of the big team videos as much as the next guy, but this lower league stuff just hits a different note. Taking the sport down to a humble and relatable level.
@benitolazio8193
@benitolazio8193 9 ай бұрын
Clubs , like in Italy that still actually have a connection with fans ...not customers.
@KevinBower-gy5be
@KevinBower-gy5be 9 ай бұрын
Fair play to any young English lad who promotes and brings lower-league Scottish fitba to the attention of the wider public. Anyone can cover the megabucks glory boys - but it's teams like East Stirlingshire who do this not for the money, but pretty much just for the love of it. Well done you.
@stellwegleestvoor3562
@stellwegleestvoor3562 10 ай бұрын
I'm from the Netherlands and I've been following The Shire from a distance for about 15 years now. I've even read a book about the club. I hope I'll be able to visit a game one day.
@jemimallah2591
@jemimallah2591 9 ай бұрын
pretty weird
@grindelston5968
@grindelston5968 9 ай бұрын
How come? I feel like there's probably a fairly interesting story there
@kathyflegg5646
@kathyflegg5646 8 ай бұрын
I went to a shire game at their stadium about 2000 Went with my late father. It was a great experience. Not many fans of course but very friendly. Old rusty turnstiles as well. I read the book as well. Come on the shre
@ignoblesurfer6281
@ignoblesurfer6281 9 ай бұрын
Freiburger FC (not to be confused with SC Freiburg, the city's pro club these days) won the German championship in the early days and now play in the fifth division, having been down as far as the seventh. Duisburger SV (not to be confused with MSV Duisburg) were national runners-up back in those days and now, after a series of mergers, are in the NINTH division. In France, very sadly Sete, a giant of the early French game, have been liquidated. They had dropped as far as the regional leagues but were back in the fourth tier. If you include Latin America, the early Argentine contenders were all private schools and British expat clubs, who will now play in public parks and in school tournaments, if at all. (A bit like how Old Carthusians and Royal Engineers are essentially recreational teams these days in England.) But it would be good to have a similar thing on continental contenders, if you can swing it. Off the top of my head, Sao Caetano have dropped from Copa Libertadores finals into non-league football (i.e. not even in Serie D) in the space of twenty years. 1. FC Magdeburg were a titan of the Eastern Bloc, winning the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup, and fell as low as the unified German fifth tier (although they are now thankfully making their way back.) Dinamo Tbilisi may still be a successful club in Georgia but they now play in front of 2,000 instead of 80,000...
@Eibarwoman
@Eibarwoman 9 ай бұрын
Xerez CD in Spain was a much more recent collapse from La Liga in 08-09 to the 5th tier in the span of just 14 years due to financial difficulties.
@benitolazio8193
@benitolazio8193 9 ай бұрын
Berlin has a lot of interesting clubs too.
@jamisbillson4872
@jamisbillson4872 9 ай бұрын
Luton Town took 9 years to go from the fifth tier (non league) to the Premier League. The greatest story ever told.
@gyanmarcorole
@gyanmarcorole 9 ай бұрын
Dinamo Tbilisi now won the Georgian League though…
@uselessDM
@uselessDM 9 ай бұрын
Tasmania Berlin were in the Bundesliga for one Season and still are the worst team ever in the Bundesliga and their successor club is now playing tin the fifth League. Lok Leipzig were in the Bundesliga after the unification and now play in the fourth divison I believe. The town I grew up in had a club that played for promotion to the second league in the seventies and now plays in the Kreisliga, which is the lowest tier in Germany.
@depekthegreat359
@depekthegreat359 10 ай бұрын
East Stirlingshire is one of my favourite respective teams ever but sadly,they are like team that fell from the grace,good friends!!!I do hope to see them back up the standings slowly from the Lowland League and try to get a new stadium for themselves to be built,good friends!!!LONG LIVE EAST STIRLINGSHIRE!!!🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️🏋️‍♂️
@qprfcfromthewhitecity
@qprfcfromthewhitecity 10 ай бұрын
Moved to Scotland in 2015 and and the first league game I saw after moving was my local club Queens Park getting beat by East Stirlingshire 3-0 at Hampden in the rain in front of like 400 people. Crazy how both clubs fortunes have changed in the 8 years since that game
@senorsoupe
@senorsoupe 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact, future Scotland captain Andy Robertson made his league debut against East Stirlingshire, he also scored his first professional goal (in a different game) against them
@ravan85
@ravan85 9 ай бұрын
you mean liverpool's best Left back in the world who captained Liverpool in his 200th game and scored on his 200th game?
@lb_36
@lb_36 9 ай бұрын
@@ravan85that’s right. Go in there and make it about you !!
@mrdimitroff
@mrdimitroff 9 ай бұрын
​@@lb_36wow, is he really Andy Robertson? 😮
@Tring69
@Tring69 8 ай бұрын
​@@ravan85best lb in the world? Thats so fucking funny LMAOO.
@doughill1945
@doughill1945 10 ай бұрын
In England Oldham probably hold the unwelcome record. Founder members of the PL and now languishing near the bottom of the Vanarama. Fortunately they have sacked David Unsworth today.The owners have been first class in the last 18 months and perarhaps soon we will have a good teamtoo.
@gebirg1
@gebirg1 9 ай бұрын
I share your pain mate as a Hartlepool fan. Less than 20 years ago we were on the edge of being in the Championship only to be robbed in the play-off final against Sheffield Wednesday. Now, like you, we are being embarrassed by jumped-up Sunday league teams. What really gets my goat is there is a sign on the car park gates at the Vic that says "Proud members of the Vanarama league". We should be ASHAMED to be in the Vanarama league.
@Veaseify
@Veaseify 9 ай бұрын
@@gebirg1 Thats awful, but I assume every team in the league has to have that sign?
@MrMmnngghh
@MrMmnngghh 9 ай бұрын
A Pools fan on a high horse I've seen it all now
@alanprior7650
@alanprior7650 9 ай бұрын
A pity David Unsworth didn't work out (an Ex-Pompey player when we were in the Prem). I hope Oldham Athletic recover. They were a great team in the 90s under Joe Royale.
@doughill1945
@doughill1945 9 ай бұрын
@@alanprior7650 DU played boring football with little attacking intent. In the 2 matches since we have won 2.0 and 4.0. Hopefully we are getting better.
@colinsimpson5905
@colinsimpson5905 10 ай бұрын
Visited the old ground in 2004 v Gretna while doing the 42. My daughter was 5 at the time and i remember the young lass on the turnstile letting my daughter work the peddle on the turnstile before the game to let people in. She found us at half time and brought my daughter a can of pop and a couple of chocolate bars for helping her. Very friendly club and great memories. It would have been a league 2 game at the time. Both Lowland League teams now and Gretna a reformed club.
@grindelston5968
@grindelston5968 9 ай бұрын
Aww, that was nice of her!
@neilpountney9414
@neilpountney9414 9 ай бұрын
That is a great story!!
@MrNicoBico
@MrNicoBico 9 ай бұрын
My dad always had a great admiration for clubs that were always the underdogs (wrote for Luxembourg football back in the 90's). He always followed East Sterling. Great video.
@CarlosCelesteJaibo95
@CarlosCelesteJaibo95 9 ай бұрын
very long story: my hometown's club was a force to be reckoned with in the Mexican 1st Division back in the 80's. there are so many legends regarding the humidity (above 73%), playing on Sundays at 3 in the afternoon and how the "big clubs" would leave here losing by at least 3 to 7 goals. they have one league title that was won in 1952-53 season and two 2nd place finishes in 1985 and 1986. ever since 1995 the club has faced constant disappearances and reincarnations (like 5 or 6 times) and we haven't returned to the top division since then. my hometown's club is on a constant seesaw between the 2nd and 3rd division due to these disappearances and reincarnations. during the 2013-14 season we almost got relegated to the 4th division on the final day of the regular season if it wasn't for both a home win with a last minute goal and a favorable combination of results. then a few months later, the club faced a disaffiliation threat due to unpaid wages racking up to 5 million pesos (almost £234k which is a lot for a 3rd division club here). on 13th September, 2014 the club played its supposed last match on a stormy Saturday night where only 200 people (the most loyal fans) were in attendance. the weather fueled up the uncertainty of the club's future. the team was losing for most of the match until a last minute goal tied and ended the match. a few days later, the news came out that the Mexican Football Federation would take control of the club until they found suitable buyers. then came a family from Mexico City with roots in the town and rebuild the team and made it into a social phenomenon, each Saturday the stadium was filled to the brim with +25k supporters (a very, very, very high attendance for 3rd division football here). you literally had to arrive between 2-2½ hours before kick-off to secure good seats and parking space. the team won a title and hopes were high that we finally found the stable ownership the club needed and that the sky would be the limit. that's until Santos Laguna came in April 2016, things started OK when they announced a partnership with the club and when they also pulled "a Wimbledon to Milton Keynes" (super common in Mexico) in our favor and we were back in the 2nd division. then things started going bad, instead of building up a team to fight for promotion to the 1st division, Santos transformed the team into a feeder/satellite club in order to test their academy players and in early 2018 Santos took full control of the team and the team became inconsistent and got relegated to the 3rd division in 2019 but Santos paid in cash to remain in the 2nd division. in 2020 the club won the 2nd division but the title became worthless because promotion-relegation was vanished (the Liga MX wants to copy everything the ML$ does). in 2021 they finished 2nd. but in April 2022 Santos sold the club to new owners and these new owners moved the franchise to somewhere else and we were left without football for like 2 months until an old directive staff member of the club bought a 3rd division franchise with the help of a group of businesspeople and built a very serious project and a very competitive team which won 22 matches, drew 9 and lost only 2. we won the championship and the right to be promoted but then the Federation said no because we lacked some BS called the "Plus License" which they pulled out from their arse out of the blue (just to cover up the fact that Santos was unhappy that the club was doing really great without them). and because of that we remain on the 3rd division. and even if we manage to get that Plus License, we have to win back our right for promotion instead of having it respected.
@Hartley_Hare
@Hartley_Hare 10 ай бұрын
Could some Scottish car dealership with a vaguely enterprising spirit sponsor this guy?
@jaytee1671
@jaytee1671 10 ай бұрын
Shouting for Arnold baby …
@ajar282
@ajar282 10 ай бұрын
It's why the channel is called footy adventures
@MartyJones
@MartyJones 9 ай бұрын
Stockport County is one that comes to mind, werent in the premier league but were in the championship as recent as 2001 only to then eventually drop as low as the conference north (6th tier)
@MrSeales82
@MrSeales82 9 ай бұрын
Scunthorpe Utd have also made the same journey. Also Yeovil have gone from the Championship in 2014 to Naional League South (also 6th tier).
@robhay9645
@robhay9645 9 ай бұрын
What about Gretna? Got to the Scottish premier, reached the Scottish cup final and even qualified for Europe before falling from grace due to financial difficulties.
@4RealHero
@4RealHero 9 ай бұрын
Was about to say this. Definitely Gretna, more to it than just a fall from grace though.
@jemimallah2591
@jemimallah2591 9 ай бұрын
they were just artificially juiced with loads of cash, you could do that for any club. they were only anywhere near "the top" for a season or two and the entire time everyone could see it was a very precarious endeavour
@zenarcher9633
@zenarcher9633 9 ай бұрын
They had a "Sugar Daddy" owner, Brooks Mileson, who bought their way up the leagues. When he died, his financial support ended and so did the club. No real mystery or "fall from grace".
@br-jj6re
@br-jj6re 4 ай бұрын
@@zenarcher9633they were sabotaged in the top flight by that ridiculous stadium rule having to play in Motherwell when they could’ve easily played in Carlisle instead, mileson dying didn’t help but the team could’ve easily been prevented from dying so quickly
@bobsteele9581
@bobsteele9581 10 ай бұрын
Another fascinating video Sam. I would say though that Cowdenbeath's fall from grace has been just as big, if not bigger than East Stirlingshire's (Unfortunate since I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the Blue Brazil). They were a top tier team in the 1930s as well, even won a cup back then if I remember correctly and were playing in the 2nd tier as recently as the 2014-15 season. Last season they finished 15th in the Lowland League. Also great to see the pic of Alex Parker, who started his career at my home team, Kello Rovers, played in the 1958 world Cup for Scotland and spent a good few years at Everton after leaving Falkirk.
@harrison6143
@harrison6143 10 ай бұрын
If they won a cup it would likely have been the Fife cup. They have never won either of the main cups. Their Wiki page needs correcting, it implies they won the First Division in 1914,1915 & 1939. That would have made them three times Scottish Champions!
@bobsteele9581
@bobsteele9581 10 ай бұрын
@@harrison6143 -Aye your right mate. They reached the quarter final of the Scottish cup and finished 7th in the league in the 1930-31. Best they ever did I think. Don't know what made me think they had won a cup. They certainly were a top flight team back then though, and I still say their fall from grace is at least as big if not bigger than that of East Stirlingshire.
@TheUniversalGamer87
@TheUniversalGamer87 9 ай бұрын
​@harrison6143 they probably won the stirlingshire Cup but Falkirk has the record for it at 32 nowadays tho the trophy no longer active as its not fair with lost sleeping giants Falkirk winning it easy every year.
@user-mn4cc6bb7t
@user-mn4cc6bb7t 9 ай бұрын
I suspect that the rise of Kelty Hearts just over three miles away may have swayed many Cowdenbeath supporters to change their allegiance - possibly permanently.
@philipqvist7322
@philipqvist7322 10 ай бұрын
In South Africa we have a team named Moroka Swallows (I actually supported them), who were one of the giants of ZA Football - one of the original Soweto Teams with trophies galore until the 90s. In the late 2000's they fell just one point of winning the title, they won a domestic cup a season later - but then dreadful ownership and decision making virtually destroyed the club and less than 5 years later were relegated to the amateur 4th tier of ZA Football. Fortunately a satellite club has been formed (Swallows FC), and through buy outs and promotions are back in the ZA Top League. But yeah a fall within 5 years from cup winners to 4th tier regional football is some fall.
@topcat8891
@topcat8891 10 ай бұрын
"Don't follow me ,follow the Birds" I too support Swallows The Mainstay Cup Final at Ellis Park in 1983 was the first game I attended live that Ace Mnini goal is imprinted on my memory forever I followed the birds at george goch and ellis park until I left SA in 1992 so fortunatly I was not there to witness the fall but reading about it from afar was bad enough. Good to see them back in the top flight 😁
@philipqvist7322
@philipqvist7322 10 ай бұрын
@topcat8891 some great memories there - yeah I forgot the motto. Obviously this Swallows FC team is not the same powerhouse as the glorious 80s (yet), but they are now in their 4th season of Top flight football. They did struggle in their last 2 seasons though - having to avoid relegation in the playoffs in their second season, but last season was pretty remarkable; they were in the bottom 2 with 4 or 5 matches to go, but they won / drew all those matches (beating Chiefs as well), and finished 8th. In their first season back, they finished 5th or 6th, drawing over 20 of their matches.
@ignoblesurfer6281
@ignoblesurfer6281 9 ай бұрын
I am a Swallows fan in the US. Still have some old jerseys from the 2000s before the fall out of the NFD. Huge bird motif on the side, Volkswagen logo in the middle.
@christopherbrown4700
@christopherbrown4700 10 ай бұрын
brilliant Vlog sam keep doing what you do best mate. love watching them and with great info on each team and area they are from.
@FootyAdventures
@FootyAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed! More to come
@adamroth9168
@adamroth9168 9 ай бұрын
I am somewhat unusual as a Swedish Oldham Athletic fan since the 80s. The journey from the Premier League to today's non league has been painful. But changing teams is as unthinkable as starting to accept or appreciate when Norway has success in sports, it will never happen. I hope for an owner who is passionate about the club/ Greatings from Sweden
@Paul-eb4jp
@Paul-eb4jp 9 ай бұрын
Oldham deserved it after trying to cut off promotion to the premier league when they were in it.
@dislexyc
@dislexyc 9 ай бұрын
Bradford supporter from Portugal here I know the pain
@adamroth9168
@adamroth9168 9 ай бұрын
@@dislexyc great too hear Man
@coreyhardie
@coreyhardie 10 ай бұрын
the shire have had so much bad luck over the years. i feel like because they now live in the shadows of falkirk it won’t help them with playing at their biggest rivals grounds.only if falkirk and the shire would make a deal to become affiliate clubs with each other and help each other by loaning the players that need more development and will get play time to the shire. i would help both teams dramatically. makes me sad seeing how one of my local clubs had fallen so low but at the same time watching them build them selves back up is gonna be a fun journey.
@Mikeb1001
@Mikeb1001 10 ай бұрын
The sad truth is that half the people who live in those streets near the old ground probably support Rangers or Celtic. That’s modern football unfortunately, I see it week in, week out, coming from Manchester we have so many local clubs but people are drawn in by the big lights of the Champions League, to the detriment of other clubs in the area
@stuartshire
@stuartshire 10 ай бұрын
Correct
@MeTube3
@MeTube3 8 ай бұрын
I have a friend who can see the floodlights at East End Park from the windows of his house. Born and bred Fifer. Has a Celtic season ticket and drives past East End Park to go to Celtic every home game.
@paulwilson2651
@paulwilson2651 6 ай бұрын
I think Notts County could hold that acclaim they went from the old English Division 4 up to Division 1 and back down to Division 4 in successive seasons.
@willbee6785
@willbee6785 10 ай бұрын
Great vid as usual. Something warmly welcoming about these videos.
@MathyouPage
@MathyouPage 9 ай бұрын
I love football videos like this where it mentions about clubs in lower divisions that have been struggled for a certain about of time. One club would say that have fallen from grace is Notts County FC. They have been struggling since 1992 and it was very sad day when they got relegated out of the football league 2019. However, they are finally back in the football league and it seems the owners are looking to put them back to being a very competitive club.
@nickcooper1260
@nickcooper1260 9 ай бұрын
They should never have got rid of Aex Ferguson. At an employment tribunal, it was concluded that he had, "No obvoius managerial qualities!. This rivals Decca Records not signing The Beatles as, "Guitar groups are on the way out".
@jomichel3594
@jomichel3594 9 ай бұрын
In Germany there are many Clubs that were once in the Bundesliga or in the 2 Bundesliga that now eighter don't excist or are in lower tiers
@MeTube3
@MeTube3 8 ай бұрын
Hearing the lovely names of the clubs in Scotland on the results while my grandad checked his pools numbers. Queen of the South, Brechin, Arbroath, Stenhousemuir, Dumbarton, St Mirren, Hamilton Academicals, Heart of Midlothian, Raith. Voice of James Alexander Gordon. Nostalgia. Nowadays I hear Bonnyrigg Rose, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, they have such lovely names.
@YeOldeHamiltonian
@YeOldeHamiltonian 10 ай бұрын
I can remember watching my team-The Accies play at Firs Park against East Stirling in the early 1980's in the equivalent of the Scottish Championship. Corrupt Owners(like my own club)sold the ground and profited and sadly for East Stirling they have never recovered. The book Pointless about a season with East Stirling is a great read.
@lucybartley5063
@lucybartley5063 10 ай бұрын
Great video, East Stirlingshire is now on my bucket list to visit next time I'm in Scotland
@tombo1984
@tombo1984 10 ай бұрын
To fans of East Sterlingshire. I say the following. Never say never. Look at Brighton and Hove Albion. Made homeless after they lost there ground (Goldstone), weren't even playing in the same county, fell through the leagues and were at real risk of going out of business. Look at them now.
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 9 ай бұрын
Fulham have spent most of this millennium in the Premier League. Ten years earlier they were almost relegated to the 4th Division.
@ianmcleish1957
@ianmcleish1957 10 ай бұрын
Been to see East Stirlingshire a few times whilst following Alloa. Such a shame what has happened. Also, nice to see Sauchie (very near to Alloa) which was the club Alan Hansen started his youth career before going to Partick then Liverpool. Keep up the great work, Sam 💪👍
@Hobo_Callum
@Hobo_Callum 9 ай бұрын
My grandad who passed away played for them, my great great uncle played for falkirk. I still live ten mins away and I have a lot of stories even though my family were all rangers because of where in Falkirk we are
@TheShireshark
@TheShireshark 10 ай бұрын
I've been a Shire fan since the early 70s but moved to England in 1979 so don't get up to see them much these days, but there's only one way we're getting out of the Lowland League now and that's downwards, sadly.
@indigo8021
@indigo8021 8 ай бұрын
The Shire ❤️ I know of a former player and would go and watch him, great times. Always had a soft spot for them, sad to see their demise
@chrisgodson2692
@chrisgodson2692 10 ай бұрын
In my opinion Brian Clough`s achievements with the squads and money he had available to him is arguably better than Ferguson.
@johngreenhorn8853
@johngreenhorn8853 9 ай бұрын
Aberdeen
@chrisgodson2692
@chrisgodson2692 9 ай бұрын
@@johngreenhorn8853Aberdeen !
@anthonymitchell8893
@anthonymitchell8893 9 ай бұрын
@@johngreenhorn8853 nottingham forest and derby county the winner is Brian cough sorry john
@johngreenhorn8853
@johngreenhorn8853 9 ай бұрын
@anthonymitchell8893 I probably would tend to agree I think winning the old first division with Forest after coming up from the old 2nd division was every bit as special ( but maybe not quite as special if tgat makes sense ) as winning the European Cup twice,obviously the European Cup is the pinnacle,but the state Manchester United were in when Ferguson to over was diabolical and let's be honest money or not he kept them at the top or near the top for a sustained amount of time over 25 years,my point about Aberdeen btw was actually the money it was pretty much a home grown team so to speak and to win a European trophy with tham albeit the Cup winners Cup was nothing short of a miracle obviously he won the league 3 times I think and the Scottish cup 3 or 4 times,nowhere near as hard as winning the Eglish league mind you but he would have had a miniscule budget compared to Ranger and Celtic,think he also won a couple of league cups with them.
@eckypooh50
@eckypooh50 9 ай бұрын
​@@johngreenhorn8853... aberdeen won the super cup as well...
@bluenose7984
@bluenose7984 9 ай бұрын
The guys right....Always support your local team. Forget being a plastic fan, only supporting a top team from 1000 miles away....
@markdavinson6830
@markdavinson6830 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been to Berwick and Broomhill in the Lowland League this season. Both attract about 400 people. Broomhill ground share with Dumbarton at the rock. It was well worth the visit although I’m at a loss to see how their games can make any money for the team. Berwick host the Bandits speedway (and possibly Tweedmouth of the East Of Scotland League) so their ground is a definite money maker in contrast to rivals.
@ignoblesurfer6281
@ignoblesurfer6281 9 ай бұрын
Broomhill get 400 in their dreams. Quarter it and you're closer.
@legionnairegonk4425
@legionnairegonk4425 10 ай бұрын
One thing leads to another... Never heard of Third Lanark before this video's league table screenshots, but will check out your video on them too!
@Veaseify
@Veaseify 9 ай бұрын
One of the earliest examples of a corrupt owner running a club into the ground out of spite because he was banned from selling the stadium...
@user-mn4cc6bb7t
@user-mn4cc6bb7t 9 ай бұрын
I remember writing to the short-lived Scottish Football Weekly magazine in the late 1970s, stating that it seemed strange that Falkirk had three league teams (if you included Stenhousemuir) while Edinburgh only had two. I did suggest that East Stirlingshire moved to the athletics stadium in nearby Grangemouth, where they might attract new supporters. This was their letter of the week! I know that the Grangemouth venue was considered after Firs Park was abandoned but obviously that didn't work out. The East Stirlingshire guy at 9:00 hit the nail on the head, when he said that there were better supported teams coming up through the pyramid and hinted that East Stirlingshire were unlikely to be back in the Scottish League any time soon. For many decades, the geographical distribution of Scottish League teams was a bit odd, e.g. with four clubs in small towns in Angus and only Aberdeen to the north of them. The expansion to 42 clubs and the promotion play-offs involving the Highland and Lowland Leagues has normalised things to a great extent, although you get the odd quirk where Kelty were promoted and they are only three or four miles from Cowdenbeath (who have subsequently dropped down to the Lowland League).
@chrisfrenchleith
@chrisfrenchleith 10 ай бұрын
Was at the last game at Firs. Avoided finishing bottom that yeae and after confirmation of the other results came through on the tannoy (to confirm the 9th place finish), there was a mini-pitch invasion.
@hdng1984
@hdng1984 8 ай бұрын
Great video as always Sam. I'd love for you to expand on how you feel the promotion/relegation can be restructured. I find the highland and lowland leagues fascinating but I'd like to get more of an idea of how yourself and Scottish football fans feel about it.
@jorgeromano6506
@jorgeromano6506 9 ай бұрын
Here in Venezuela we have Minerven FC, a 1st division club and one of the strongest Venezuelan clubs in the international competitions (Copa libertadores) now is in the 3rd tier and I think they haven’t been back at the top flight for almost 40 years
@Colgan1
@Colgan1 9 ай бұрын
That table from 32-33 my Great Great Grandfather was the trainer of Celtic with Willie Maley being the manager
@mitchurchin2
@mitchurchin2 9 ай бұрын
Arguably one the the biggest falls from Grace surely falls to Oldham athletic, Premier league to National league.
@samolevski1119
@samolevski1119 8 ай бұрын
I admire the loyalty and passion of those trying to say how certain clubs don't deserve to be in a lowly position, but you have to understand basic arithmetic. Bums on seats means money incoming, which will pay for better facilities and higher salaries to attract better players. You won't get more bums on seats when your team plays lower league football and people can sit at home and watch Messi, Ronaldo etc on television, it's just a fact of life. The total population of Scotland is 5.5 million, while England is about 57 million - that helps to explain why Scottish football will never generate the interest or income that the top teams in England can get. Enjoy your dreams by all means, but try to be realistic.
@stevewilson8467
@stevewilson8467 9 ай бұрын
Used to visit Firs when Stirling Albion had to play cup games at a neutral venue due to their plastic pitch (boiiing!). Actually quite like the old place, shame to see it's demise but glad Shire are still going strong. Clydebank's collapse is really sad, mostly due to an evil unscrupulous owner. Hopefully they too regain some success.
@McConnachy
@McConnachy 10 ай бұрын
Brechin City are another team that fell quickly, reached the championship then fell a league every year till they went to the Highland league, was sorry to see them go, as a Mo fan, they were a good derby and I've many mates who support Brechin.
@TopicGaming50
@TopicGaming50 6 ай бұрын
1:00 Hamilton went from 6th to league 1 in 2 seasons
@avadahmer
@avadahmer 9 ай бұрын
We have Racing Club de France here which won French League once and Coupe de France 5 times. They were at level 6 just 2 seasons ago and have been at level 5 for the last two seasons
@ryanoconnor5612
@ryanoconnor5612 9 ай бұрын
Great vlog, looked like one of your famous abandoned ones to begin with!
@stevesheppardmusic
@stevesheppardmusic 9 ай бұрын
You see the same thing here, now bear in mind i live in Cyprus, most shirts worn here were Man U a fair while ago, then it moved to Liverpool, today its a switch and most shirts seen are either Arsenal or Man City, and yes Scottish team shirts are only ever Celtic or Rangers. So most football fans are either glory hunters or their club is their religion
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 10 ай бұрын
The league tables made interesting reading. Queens Park were a top tier club, and whatever happened to Third Lanark? The English club that's had the biggest fall from grace is possibly Oldham Athletic, who reached the PL and played in a League Cup final. They're now non-league.
@salbenrosli707
@salbenrosli707 10 ай бұрын
I thought Scunthorpe had it worse.
@Mikeb1001
@Mikeb1001 10 ай бұрын
Luton went to the same level a few years back - also Stockport who went one below
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 10 ай бұрын
@@Mikeb1001 Luton are remarkable for being an established top flight team, dropping out the league completely, and returning to the Prem. I don't see them staying there this time, but that's a heck of a rollercoaster ride. Cowdenbeath are probably the most consistently underachieving Scottish football club. I'd guess Rochdale as the worst performing English club over many years without actually being relegated out the league.
@johnwoodhams7377
@johnwoodhams7377 9 ай бұрын
My club maidstone United went from the old 4th division to the Kent county league division 4 when we went bust that a 10 league drop
@chrisday9297
@chrisday9297 9 ай бұрын
Oxford Utd? Were 'Old Div 1' (i.e. PL) and a League Cup in the 80s, then fell through the leagues into Conference. Looking promising for getting out of L2 this year? Who knows, we'll see after Xmas! COYY
@georgeyoung8887
@georgeyoung8887 9 ай бұрын
Not sure if you've ever visited Sauchie's Ochilview ground but it's well worth a trip. The team play good stuff too.
@scottinglis6456
@scottinglis6456 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Shire are a really good club and I hope they can find their feet again and get their own ground.
@stevenmcghee6649
@stevenmcghee6649 9 ай бұрын
One season in the top flight - 63/64. Chelsea even visited for a friendly that season as part of the deal that took Eddie McCreadie to Stamford Bridge.
@toph8298
@toph8298 10 ай бұрын
Shire were my local team for a number of years but they were floating around the bottom of the leagues for years. It was almost a formality they would eventually be relegated out of the pyramid system. I visited Firs Park a couple of years after going to games years ago and it’s in a sorry state. Clyde have suffered a bigger fall from grace. Formerly a fair-sized club with good attendances and some cup success, it’s entirely possible they’ll fall out of the SPFL. Both Firs Park and Brockville were based in brilliant locations and were a good day out.
@RadioJonesy
@RadioJonesy 10 ай бұрын
NICE work as always
@keithbutler2222
@keithbutler2222 9 ай бұрын
I can remember a security guard on the London Eye congratulating me and my kids on supporting a 'proper' team, as we were wearing our Leicester City hats. This was in the days when they were still in the championship and some time before our dream 2015/16 season...so yeah...support your home team
@arod9998
@arod9998 9 ай бұрын
I used to live on Victoria Road and my old flat used to look onto that land. There was an application to build housing on that land, not sure why it hasn’t happened as it’s right in the town centre by the retail park. So a good place to build new homes. Will be honest Victoria Road and Firs street have a bit of a reputation so I wouldn’t go there at night. I mind reading these streets have the highest police attendance in Falkirk along with Stewart Road which is further up. In fairness I never had any bother in the 5 years that I lived there. I was aware that East Stirlingshire used to be based there but the ground was demolished a few years before I lived there.
@danielwilder7835
@danielwilder7835 9 ай бұрын
fairplay to the fan you spoke to towards the end
@RossParker1877
@RossParker1877 10 ай бұрын
Clyde will be joining them shortly 😢
@FootyAdventures
@FootyAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Sadly, you could be right
@user-mn4cc6bb7t
@user-mn4cc6bb7t 8 ай бұрын
Their move from the greyhound track Shawfield in Glasgow to Cumbernauld seemed a good idea for Clyde at the time but obviously that didn't work out. Ground-sharing at Hamilton always seemed a bit of a short-term gamble or alternatively a long-term downward spiral. You would have to be a serious supporter to follow them to their various home grounds over the years. However I note that Clyde are proposing to move back into Glasgow at Gallowgate and that may set them on an upward path again.
@hisingdoon1191
@hisingdoon1191 10 ай бұрын
Im a falkirk fan and even i feel sorry for east Stirlingshire they are a great club the second best team in Stirlingshire once upon a time and dont really deserve to be in the lowland league in terms of historical standing but of course your history can be good footballing prowess comes first as i know first hand but i hope to see them back in the league for a derby or get them in the cup for a derby but yeah hope they come up soon
@just_some_guy_innit
@just_some_guy_innit 10 ай бұрын
the club could be a decent league 2 side with the right backing behind it, they are well missed in the league and always had a nice small but vocal support 🙏🏻
@hisingdoon1191
@hisingdoon1191 10 ай бұрын
@just_some_guy_innit yeah even if they get to league 2, redevelop firs Park, and stabilise there I would be happy and go watch them if falkirk are away to cove or peterhead or they are shit but as you say they need proper backing hopefully by a local business man that knows them
@JimmyCrawford
@JimmyCrawford 9 ай бұрын
Former chairman tried to sell the ground for development, but it's an awkward piece of land on the end of an industrial estate. Can only assume it was a zoning nightmare. Given it's still undeveloped, you can't help but feel he's held onto it when the club fell apart?
@mattjohnson9913
@mattjohnson9913 10 ай бұрын
Sad to see a club with so much history fall like that. Nearest example I can think of in England is Oldham- a Premier League club for its first two seasons now struggling in the National League
@footballhipster
@footballhipster 10 ай бұрын
The rain reminds me of a specific song. "Scottish Rain" by The Silencers.
@alanbegg
@alanbegg 9 ай бұрын
Due to moving for work I supported The 'Shire for about 7 years '91-'98. The fact that we were mostly crap was, paradoxically, part of the attraction. Some of the names back then were Gordon Russell, Iain Lee, Glen Millar (who was a lawyer and retained his amateur status) Peter (he's big he's round he's worth a million pound) Lamont and PC Peter Dwyer (who emigrated to Aussie).
@nitsuj0
@nitsuj0 9 ай бұрын
I've always wanted to support a club from Scotland, but I never wanted to support rangers, Celtic, hearts, etc. I always wanted to support a club that had to go to history and wasn't the best but had that passionate determination to be Good, I think I found my club. I don't know if this is frowned upon or whatever, but I think I'm going to start supporting this club from now on, I like to support a club in every league that I've watched or wanted to watch so here's my Scottish club now! ❤️
@mediacopycatkillers
@mediacopycatkillers 2 ай бұрын
Key takeaway from this video was seeing Division 1 and 2 have 18/19 teams in the 60s. The current model of 12 only exists so the 2 x Glasgow teams can play each other four times a season and guarantee more income doing so.
@edwilson5416
@edwilson5416 9 ай бұрын
Such a shame about Firs Park, a lovely little ground I visited in October 2006 and brought a shirt. This was on the back of reading the 'Pointless' book published the year before which popularised their woes. It always puzzled me though how a place as small as Falkirk had 3 league clubs.
@keithrobertson5110
@keithrobertson5110 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant video, thanks 😊.
@falkirkinthemud7636
@falkirkinthemud7636 10 ай бұрын
Used to have the old stand up till just a few years ago, such a shame it got knocked down. Looks really really over grown now, such a shame man. Shire my second team after the pars, was at the play off game they got put out the leagues. Deserved, but sad nonetheless
@samgunn12
@samgunn12 10 ай бұрын
That 32-33 season certainly did have some big teams in it. Just look at the mighty Cowdenbeath! The Blue Brazil themselves!
@fromelh
@fromelh 9 ай бұрын
Had the chance to go and see a game there ten years ago. Great experience.
@Eibarwoman
@Eibarwoman 9 ай бұрын
I can think of Spain's Xerez CD which was in La Liga and now sits in the 5th tier of Spain while their offshoot club has displaced the original club from their stadium El Chapin.
@mikecameron2151
@mikecameron2151 10 ай бұрын
Comparisons made with Gretna but there were a short lived vanity project of 1 man. Brechin have had quite the fall in Scotland
@tonyguyan9559
@tonyguyan9559 9 ай бұрын
They even joined up with Clydebank and were called ES Clydebank (pretty much like Wimbledon becoming MK Dons, maybe) but I think it was only for a season and they became individual clubs again. But I can’t believe what’s happened to Brockville I went there as an away fan when St Johnstone played Falkirk there.
@user-mn4cc6bb7t
@user-mn4cc6bb7t 9 ай бұрын
The Brockville site is now a Morrison's supermarket (so it will look rather different!) and the newish Falkirk FC ground is elsewhere in the town.
@Channelnem
@Channelnem 9 ай бұрын
Surely Bury or Oldham have had a bigger fall from Grace
@davidconnor8380
@davidconnor8380 10 ай бұрын
If you were watching a game at Falkirk s stadium in 1974 you'd have been stood in Brockville Park 😉
@rossi6113
@rossi6113 9 ай бұрын
The great Alex Parker later played for Everton.
@pauljames3028
@pauljames3028 9 ай бұрын
I think Rochdale F.C. finished bottom a few times without being relegated, back in the day, not sure though how many times though, ( good editing by the way )
@gebirg1
@gebirg1 9 ай бұрын
My team, Hartlepool United, hold the record for re-elections. We were re-elected 14 times before automatic relegation came in in the 80s. We are now back in the National League for the second time after two years back in the league
@cameronforbes79
@cameronforbes79 9 ай бұрын
I live 5 minutes from Sauchie. Both Hansen brothers played for the Saucie before heading to Partick Thistle. Cracking wee stadium maybe a future video in the making 🤣
@Mr_Iain
@Mr_Iain 10 ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of the SFA's decision on this. Cowdenbeath, Brechin City, East Stirling all leaving big decent stadiums behind. Now we got teams replacing them with Sunday league set ups. Not good for the game IMO.
@crimsonwizard2560
@crimsonwizard2560 10 ай бұрын
Last time I saw the Shire was in the 80's. They played hearts in a Scottish Cup game. I think.
@janoginski5557
@janoginski5557 9 ай бұрын
St Bernard’s & Leith Athletic spring to mind I do have a newspaper report of a game between Leith Athletic & Dunfermline Athletic, (or it may be Stenhousemuir) my Uncle was a goalkeeper for both teams, from the mud 1940’s to the early 1950’s.
@andyjones68
@andyjones68 10 ай бұрын
A long time ago, you needed to be elected in and out of the English Football League. You could finish last in Div 4 and still stay up. Hartlepool Utd were relected by the "old school tie" brigade fourteen times in their history. Thankfully it was abolished, in the 80's I think
@grindelston5968
@grindelston5968 9 ай бұрын
Somewhere in Scotland a groundskeeper is spinning in his grave
@DaxRaider
@DaxRaider 9 ай бұрын
well my city in germany played football in the 1st bundesliga. we reached the semis of the euro cup in the 80s with some legendary games, and we won the german cup (dfb pokal) vs fc bayern ... now we play in the 5th league (amateur football) ... it hurts :(
@carnalea2424
@carnalea2424 9 ай бұрын
I remember the legendary Uerdingen-Dresden 7:3 - 6 2nd half goals by Uerdingen - probably the greatest comeback in a European club competition
@itzhalf
@itzhalf 9 ай бұрын
Seeing the stadium in the back i thought you were on about Falkirk, was about to come on this video raging 🤣🤣
@jeffmurray6219
@jeffmurray6219 10 ай бұрын
I remember seeing East Stirling play against Stranraer when Alex Ferguson was the manager.
@KieranDoes
@KieranDoes 10 ай бұрын
should do a video on the newest club in the west of Scotland league, Caledonian Locomotive!
@alastaircreelman
@alastaircreelman 9 ай бұрын
Actually they have only fallen from tier 4 to tier 5 so it's hardly as dramatic as you claim. But at the same time they lost their home and a lot of their soul. Wish they could find a ground of their own instead of ground-sharing. Tragic that Firs Park is just wasteland.
@danielkarmy4893
@danielkarmy4893 10 ай бұрын
Even more interestingly in their sixth season after finishing bottom 5 years in a row, they were threatened with being evicted from the league if they did the same again. They were bottom on the last day of the season, but won that last game at their old ground 3-1 over Montrose, finished second-bottom, and somehow survived...
@meganico98
@meganico98 9 ай бұрын
For Italian football, I would say that Pro Vercelli is by far its biggest fallen giant. They won 7 league titles between the 1900s and the 1920s - back when Serie A was still amateur - but since the end of WWII they declined slowly and painfully, and even went under twice in 1990 and 2010. Nowadays they sit in Serie C - the third tier of Italian football - but they likely won't return to the top flight anytime soon.
@michaelburman9705
@michaelburman9705 9 ай бұрын
At the start he says "the team have".The correct English is "the team has" as the word team is singular
@marcusk.3182
@marcusk.3182 9 ай бұрын
Pro Vercelli in Italy won 7 titles (ranked 5th alongside Bologna and Torino!) but haven't played in the top tier since 1935, with only occasional appearences in Serie B, having become a yo-yo club between the 3rd and 4th tier, and even dropping lower.
@stewmac7809
@stewmac7809 10 ай бұрын
Remember my last game before emigrating to Aus in 2005 was Elgin v Shire at BB 0-0 and both teams lucky to get 0 😂
@benitolazio8193
@benitolazio8193 9 ай бұрын
Great content
@gustavdorow7619
@gustavdorow7619 9 ай бұрын
Esbjerg from denmark was a top team and is now in the 3 best league in denmark
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