Is this Knockoff Alienware Better than a REAL One??
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0:00 Intro
0:40 Product Overview
3:17 Setup
4:15 Benchmark vs Competition
6:36 Fit and Finish
9:10 Gaming Experience
11:05 Gaming Benchmarks
13:13 Teardown
17:38 Conclusion
18:27 Outro
@BobOfAllTrades 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks LTT, glad you enjoyed it! I’ve been hired to be their Director of Technology. I’m currently exploring other thermal alternatives for our customers. Everything that was said in this video is 100% accurate 🙏
@baboonaiih 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Hopefully you can bring some great insight to the hardware!
@sexytopramen 2 жыл бұрын
Eyyy there you are, Bob. Are these still on the tongfang chassis? I have a 2070 mech17 and it still keeps up well for most games.
@omnithewolf3628 2 жыл бұрын
POGGERS
@wolfram6583 2 жыл бұрын
For the specs its packing and the launch price, I would have been so tempted to buy the 3070 model if I hadn't bought a desktop a already. Nice value.
@StavrosZorbas 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Bob on building a prominent machine and for appearing on an LTT video! It is quite an impressive journey for your channel! I am appreciating the unique naming of the laptop!
@fabe61 2 жыл бұрын
Feels a tad rude to call it a knockoff when evidently there is design, skill and commitment in this.
@idontthinkso6172 2 жыл бұрын
It’s obviously a knockoff
@stuartstogdill2406 2 жыл бұрын
There is ZERO design in it... it's a shit HP laptop with a different case. Just trash.
@Lucas-dx2bp 2 жыл бұрын
Its a good knockoff tho
@04dram04 2 жыл бұрын
@@idontthinkso6172 You dont know about gaming latops to call this a knock off. Many latops follow this design because its best for cooling
@ethansavatar1815 2 жыл бұрын
@@stuartstogdill2406 did you even watch the benchmarks? if its comparing with lenovo then its quality to performance is good
@ivicapavic3381 2 жыл бұрын
LTT: "It's 1300 dollars..." ME: *excited* LTT: "... less" ME: *dies inside just a little bit more*
@genjorah 2 жыл бұрын
Bro it's a 16gig 3080 tf you expect
@Clickscap 2 жыл бұрын
@@genjorah expected a cheap laptop considering its a bootleg lol Until I heard him saying 16gbs ram and a 3080
@LightsLuck- 2 жыл бұрын
@@Clickscap Bootleg implies more jank and counterfeit parts. This is definitely not bootleg. It's just a chassis similar to Alienware.
@Clickscap 2 жыл бұрын
@@LightsLuck- that's fair. I should have used another word. I was trying to imply that the hardware wasn't as higher quality as the Alienware therefor I expected it to be cheaper, like way cheaper. I didn't expect it to have beast specs
@Clickscap 2 жыл бұрын
@@LightsLuck- and, it's not just the chassis similar to the Alienware
@LukasKrincvaj_Czechia 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is awesome when he's just talking and not reading a script.
@thatguyalex2835 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is a more composed Linus with lower pitched voice. :)
@NEDMKitten 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatguyalex2835 he's chill AF and relaxed.
@pickleeggs3340 2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget sexy aswell 😝
@krane15 2 жыл бұрын
Negative. Nobody's that good extemporaneously. That's why the pros always write it down.
@danielc9967 2 жыл бұрын
I found him very boring and low energy, he’s a bad fit
@Graphics_Card 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine buying knockoff gaming hardware that is better than the real version.
@user-qh8vm1me5w 2 жыл бұрын
i M a G i N e
@Ferrari255GTO 2 жыл бұрын
It might be better priced but it isnt better.
@dylanchng4390 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect Linux compatibility to be worse
@Ferrari255GTO 2 жыл бұрын
@@cybernate9093 but it isn't more powerfull, at least on benchmarks. I know benchmarks don't apply directly to games, but it represents the raw performance of the chip itself
@Ferrari255GTO 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanchng4390 that is very likely since the AMD drivers were 3rd party and they will be very much useless on Linux
@Dracossaint 2 жыл бұрын
Huge shout out to that company for making disassembly videos. Props were props are due
@jxleyohrp 2 жыл бұрын
笔记本触控板玩射击游戏 仿鼠标式触摸板实机测试守望先锋(Amazing Laptops TouchPad play overwatch) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/es-YoaxoptSlYac.html
@techienate 2 жыл бұрын
On putting the logo on a skin... let's be honest, the cost isn't $20 to them... it likely costs pennies. A custom mold for making a logo for the back plate would cost in the five figure range for the tooling.
@Dracossaint 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's ignoring the fact that they're working with dbrand. They want a slice as well
@Beep2bleep 2 жыл бұрын
"This drop has concluded. Better luck next time!" Please like and comment, so that people don't think it's still going. FYI that game was hard, totally fit the plan of making it for gamers only.
@Ryanwallis8726 2 жыл бұрын
That game was super hard, I did beat it though which I feel like is an achievement only to spend an hour in queue clicking that AFK box hoping to put in my credit card lol
@iwontliveinfear 2 жыл бұрын
Wish they could drop something affordable and sensible.
@hamzaconcepts2846 2 жыл бұрын
@@iwontliveinfear what was dropped? I didn't get what linus said....
@wetpaperbag1346 2 жыл бұрын
@@hamzaconcepts2846 Msi ventus 3080ti $1900 MSRP
@Elaston 2 жыл бұрын
Wait…the VAG is still happening?
@dreamglimmer 2 жыл бұрын
with that price, i'm at the state when it's not even worth playing gauntlet for fun...
@jethroroy 2 жыл бұрын
Do it, the gauntlet is a fun minigame
@piercewilson1258 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely played the gauntlet for fun. Zero intention to buy a GPU that pricey. Way to rich for my blood.
@dimitrijk3267 2 жыл бұрын
Would have gotten it but then additional 400$ taxes + shipping got on top of that, so I just noped out
@-SP. 2 жыл бұрын
@@jethroroy What's the link? I want to play the game
@chosebines51 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to the video again. It's explained very well.
@sushimshah2896 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's called the *"Sixteen"* and not X-V-I
@misharumkittum 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who winced at that.
@refraag 2 жыл бұрын
That is 16 in Roman numerals
@nilaravi7404 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@Hoaxe72 2 жыл бұрын
That’s 16 in Roman Numerals
@valarionch 2 жыл бұрын
In spanish it would be "Sixteenth" as all roman numerals are read as ordinal, is it the same in english?
@vicviper319 2 жыл бұрын
It's good to see Eluktronics not going out of their way to make taking it apart near impossible, and even better they worked with Bob to make guides. It's no Framework, but this kind of attitude from a laptop company is refreshing.
@deyensi 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this review format and execution, Alex. Nicely done!
@tentimes 2 жыл бұрын
In Canada the Prometheus is the same price as the Alienware. $4300 CAD for the 3080 configuration.
@renricom 2 жыл бұрын
In Europe the Prometheus is 300€ cheaper with 1.696,67€ while the Alienware is 1.999€ and also sold out everywhere...
@cursetheserpent 2 жыл бұрын
Ltt is in Canada lol
@markdove5930 2 жыл бұрын
Just go with Alienware don't f around with that amount of money
@jumpierwolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@cursetheserpent they appeal to the US audience.
@Shakshuka69 2 жыл бұрын
Who would pay that? You could get a 3080 desktop and a decent non-gaming laptop for that money
@Tony-nl6pf 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever made this knockoff is so happy. They just got the best advertisement they could ever ask for. Without it, who would even know let alone consider a knock off.
@Jackofafewtrades 2 жыл бұрын
"Whoever made this knock off..." Bruh you're talking about Eluktronics and probably a tongfang chassis. Tongfang makes laptops for companies like MSI... or used to. Maybe not as much anymore. Still they're well known.
@sexytopramen 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackofafewtrades lol seriously. Bob Of All Trades even works for them now. Eluktronics has been making decent gaming laptops for quite a while now. I have a mech17 with the 115w 2070. It's a few years old and still holds it's own.
@Tony-nl6pf 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackofafewtrades Never seen a single product from a company named.... Electronics in broken English. They may be well known online but not in stores. Who cares who made it, what I said is still true. This is big advertisement.
@nathancasey7712 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tony-nl6pf How is it a knockoff it’s just another gaming laptop
@Marin3r101 2 жыл бұрын
Tony take your comments with your ignorance and head on out.
@xxxxzachxxxxx 2 жыл бұрын
“Because of specs on the box like: AMD processor…” glad to see LTT isn’t dumbing things down for us 😂
@adikeezl6033 2 жыл бұрын
videos with Alex are usually like this, he is just not a great tech presentor
@amatureskater15 2 жыл бұрын
@@adikeezl6033 Agreed, great guy....but lacks the passion for Spec Details
@Xumatro 2 жыл бұрын
If you actually watched the video, you'd know he went over all the specs in detail. IMO, just summing up the specs at the beginning of the video has no real added value and is just wasted time
@xxxxzachxxxxx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xumatro I did watch the video lol the fact stands that the sentence “specs like Ryzen processor” do not belong in any part of a tech video. Maybe you’re the audience they aimed it at if you think that’s worthwhile content
@TheGinGear 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, he was making fun of the box listing "AMD Processor" as a spec, as they usually have completely useless information like that rather than listing the actual specs. It seems like ALL of you really did need it dumbed down
@knzmotorcrossyo5453 2 жыл бұрын
The music was a great touch, added a bit of a background to the on and off audio of Alex talking. Keeps a consistent flow
@killerhurtalot 2 жыл бұрын
When the LTT store price with customs tax is more expensive than scalper prices. Thanks for helping the Canadian gamers though.
@-SP. 2 жыл бұрын
What was the link?
@andrewslovak1 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a Gigabyte 3080ti for like $1450 on Newegg, came to just over $1550 with sales tax, why didn't I get screwed by the tariffs?
@rebelprime 2 жыл бұрын
@@-SP. I didn't even understand. I don't even think the GPUs are at msrp
@OreosCookiesNCream 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewslovak1 Newegg already paid for the tariffs because the card, you bought, was already imported into Newegg's US warehouse. LTT's VAG requires you to pay tariffs because you're importing it into the US from LTT's Canadian warehouse. You just got lucky and snagged one of the closer to MSRP models.
@Thetrancemix 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebelprime it was MSRP for a 3080 TI, don't confuse it with the slightly lower cost 3080s. That and also don't forget there are cheaper models and lower clocked GPUs out there which have a lower MSRP and still are 3080 TI. This was more for Canadians given the US tariffs talk to Biden about those. But with high demand it's still cheaper than some scalp sources and it's not pre-used. A lot of the scalped ones have failed because they were crypto mining and repackaged sneakily. I'd rather take my chances with Linus and I did, I got one of these GPUs today ^_^!
@lehanirajmohanta1703 2 жыл бұрын
imagine a knock-off dell xps but with ryzen
@wiggenvan 2 жыл бұрын
Would be a lot more difficult, Alienware gives little attempt at making it compact, whereas xps lineup actually requires serious r&d to pull off well. I do want to see the XPS with ryzen though!
@Thai.H 2 жыл бұрын
I'd buy it asap
@kbhasi 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of when I imagined a knockoff that was a fusion of ThinkPad Yoga and Framework Laptop.
@d4nyll 2 жыл бұрын
Going Ryzen means no Thunderbolt, and needs to be compensated with more ports
@Thai.H 2 жыл бұрын
@@d4nyll USB 3.2 gen 2 serves all my needs
@gregsimonds8225 2 жыл бұрын
Love watching these reviews and comparisons, especially when it comes to comparing the highest priced gaming laptops with lesser known competitors. Would be interested in seeing a review and comparison of Aorus 17g xc. I purchased one a year ago and it is amazing, what was most appealing was their boast of being a competitor of Alienware but being less than half the price.
@allenellisdewitt 2 жыл бұрын
This was, for me, a much more USEFUL style of review/exploration of a laptop.
@MonsterIsABlock 2 жыл бұрын
This is an example of how to make knockoff's actually good.
@LightningSquad 2 жыл бұрын
I uploaded my Face Reveal..
@user-qh8vm1me5w 2 жыл бұрын
I know right.
@user-qh8vm1me5w 2 жыл бұрын
@@LightningSquad I don't think anyone cares.
@mirata7748 2 жыл бұрын
@@LightningSquad Damnnnn thats crazy 🤩🤩🤩!! But who asked? 🤨
@anharun 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good example if Alienware wasn't acquired by Dell
@dbousq 2 жыл бұрын
The touch controls were rough in the verified actual gamer game. Ended up costing me a GPU. Had to boot up PC in order to get through the game. On PC the game was great, controls also great. If you guys do another game like that, improving the touch controls would be appreciated. As always thanks for the VAG program, you guys are awesome!
@BurstInfinity 2 жыл бұрын
just wanna point out if you just want a gpu, and your in the US, the price is cheaper on ebay kuz its like 400 in tariffs
@stare4539 2 жыл бұрын
Yoo
@shala_shashka 2 жыл бұрын
@@BurstInfinity lmao no it ain’t
@kasuraga 2 жыл бұрын
13:45 I'm really glad they actually went through and TESTED different TIM's to see what works and what doesn't.
@dogie61 2 жыл бұрын
I bought on of the 17 inch Elutronics with the 3080 and it's fantastic. My only complaint is that the keyboard/keys could be a bit more rigid and that if you order the sticker they shoud install for you. I bought it expecting it to be on. Great value though
@Dudae_ 2 жыл бұрын
"Prometheus Exe Vee Ai"? You mean Prometheus 16, right bud?
@rikipatel4340 2 жыл бұрын
word
@boomboompower 2 жыл бұрын
Nitpicking
@dieseldrax 2 жыл бұрын
@@boomboompower Not nitpicking, it's literally 16 in Roman numerals because it has a 16-inch display.
@Dudae_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@boomboompower you're right. I'm going to go play GTA Vee, Red Dead Redemption Ai Ai or Final Fantasy Exe Ai Vee now 🙄
@chosebines51 2 жыл бұрын
Now, that is nitpicking :-p
@rtoms 2 жыл бұрын
When a knock off is worth more than your entire setup... :/
@Arkeshan 2 жыл бұрын
Worth 6× more than my pc
@Clickscap 2 жыл бұрын
When your setup is less than 400 dollars I can't even run apex
@Dr.Spatula 2 жыл бұрын
@@Clickscap I feel like that was $400 poorly spent then
@Clickscap 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Spatula my dad got a shitty laptop for my school so what could I do it was a suprise A bad suprise at that At least I can get 60fps in Minecraft And 45 in COD
@dkrampage2933 2 жыл бұрын
@@Clickscap I got a HP DB15 in 2018 at 300usd I can play Apex at 720P 40FPS low settings... What kind of Laptop did Your Dad bought??
@BobRoss-ul9nr 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't buy this, I bought one and had multiple issues in the first 3 days of ownership. On arrival the wifi would randomly disconnect (fixed with updated driver), then the laptop started restarting randomly, then the control software stopped working and crashed when opened, then the computer started acting as if keys pressed were being held down.
@MabinogiKen 2 жыл бұрын
I actually had the keys pressed down until I contacted it and found out it was due to the way it was shipped to me, it got damage by the delivery guys in such a carefree manner. They got it fixed and so far, after a few days, I had no issue. The only problem I encountered is probably having to update the wi-fi, but other than that, it's surprisingly sharp.
@MarcusW123 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's great that they developed software that actually works well, instead of trying to make it look cool.
@Neoxon619 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting flashbacks to the counterfeit LTT merch video where the knockoff mousepad was actually pretty solid. But in that case, the counterfeit version still wasn’t as good as the original.
@correction2569 2 жыл бұрын
@@idkanymore3382 your name is cringe
@Goro_Maj1ma 2 жыл бұрын
@@idkanymore3382 You're cringe 😬
@shala_shashka 2 жыл бұрын
@@idkanymore3382 shit bait try harder
@user-rq6gq4dt1w 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know Alienwares name was chosen because of the founders' fondness for the hit television series The X-Files, which also inspired the science-fiction themed names of product lines such as Area-51, Hangar 18, and Aurora. In 1997, it changed its name to Alienware. :)
@DxBlack 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know, didn't care, still don't.
@Lord_Reset 2 жыл бұрын
That is pretty neat, thanks for the info!
@user-rq6gq4dt1w 2 жыл бұрын
@@DxBlack You care enough to comment...
@user-rq6gq4dt1w 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lord_Reset No problem! :D
@user-wl4qs8xl3r 2 жыл бұрын
Thats neat
@RPIERRI2007 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, tks. I liked the part about memories its density and the impact in performance. I think it is a point very important and it is dificult to find this information in product label that reviwers should put more time analysing this issue.
@nikolaychervanyuk277 2 жыл бұрын
Although they won't see performance boost from applying liquid metal, over time the termal paste will dry out and cause performance drop, whereas liquid metal is considered to not dry out, hence you won't worry about changing it in the long run
@sangyoonsim 2 жыл бұрын
And not getting asked for extended warranty over and over 5 times is also a plus!
@krane15 2 жыл бұрын
My extended warranty worked out. So I'm a fan.
@reverendremiel 2 жыл бұрын
Or financing.
@EiP_ 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever designed the VAG game clearly didn't get the memo. Linus is short! he's too tall to make these jumps!
@John_1920 2 жыл бұрын
2:26 the fans are shaped eerily similar to how the Founders Edition of the 30 series GPU's look like.
@lensineer 2 жыл бұрын
That unashamed plug for the deskpad although it suffocated the laptop is just brilliant!
@maou1238 2 жыл бұрын
Ok that verified actual gamer challenge was pretty fun and i actually reached the check out page. I don't need a 3080ti as i already have a 3080 but congratulations to everyone who wanted and was able to buy.
@maou1238 2 жыл бұрын
@@idkanymore3382 want screenshots of the contest or pictures of my rig? id be happy to send them to you. 🙂
@Thetrancemix 2 жыл бұрын
@@idkanymore3382 I did get the MSI 3080 TI from this verified gamer program. Took figuring out the URL, winning the mini game, waiting 2 hours in line clicking the AFK meter for the reserve. Then 6~ mins to fill out the billing and shipping info. Wonderful experience and cheaper than any other method. I got into it 20 mins after the video released, so I had an advantage there.
@op_zbear6651 2 жыл бұрын
realll smoooooth sponsor segues as always linus!
@shawalfida6357 2 жыл бұрын
I hv an alienware 17 R1, ( built october 2013), still working fine, except the one time hard drive failure ( it came with a hybrid drive - WD black , it was all the rage back then ) , changed to a kingston SSD , it has another HD bay, added a WD blue 1 tb edited all of my videos on it Never changed thermal paste for the past 8 years. Apart from the bloatware, its an awesome purchase, still going strong
@xcal6532 2 жыл бұрын
10:55 the desk pad in grey scale looks sick.
@PenguinYayOne 2 жыл бұрын
For Cinebench: set the process priority to Realtime from the tast manager. It'll lock the screen, don't worry after the run it'll go back. This way you'll get more consistent results and even more points.
@supremacy98 2 жыл бұрын
The Prometheus 16 looks like it has relatively large spacings between the keys. I have a HP laptop with keys further apart from each other and I sometimes press in between the keys, resulting in no keys being pressed. But that can also be because it's been awhile since I used it and I'm kinda terrible at typing, I press 2 keys often when typing on my mechanical keyboard soooo
@charlescostain8066 2 жыл бұрын
Was the laptop running in single channel memory mode? What was the speed of the ram.. If you swapped out the ram with 2x fast modules how much performance uplift do you get?
@BiffMalibu123 2 жыл бұрын
nice vid. A gaming laptop is not on my top 3 for expensives buys right now, but this made me aware of the brand so when it hits top 3 I'll know where to look.
@seankkg 2 жыл бұрын
"They wanted it to be more individual to them." *Can't look away from the alien on the box.*
@shoddyknight 2 жыл бұрын
Alex doing laptop reviews is my fave thing atm, he's so chill
@jxleyohrp 2 жыл бұрын
笔记本触控板玩射击游戏 仿鼠标式触摸板实机测试守望先锋(Amazing Laptops TouchPad play overwatch) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/es-YoaxoptSlYac.html
@lotsanervinla3132 2 жыл бұрын
I like Eluktronics. We've got two of them in the family, and though they're aging, they still perform quite nicely. I've had to replace the keyboard in both. Eluktronics didn't gouge us, and they were easy to replace. Upgraded RAM and nVME drive in both recently. Easy. And neither was full of bloatware when we received.
@dabombcra 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest review. I have one of Eluktronics laptops. The fans are loud, but it keeps the temp in the mid 80's when gaming.
@RandomFile101 2 жыл бұрын
Alex: I want to make a video on this laptop Everyone: go for it. "Alex started reviewing the laptop, but someone in his office hey we want this set go somewhere else, then Alex went somewhere else but again someone came and said we want this set go away and find a new place and everything repeated again and again, finally" Alex: lets open this laptop so no one will ask me to leave the place. "Now Alex is happy".
@carsonj4031 2 жыл бұрын
I like companies like this. I'll definitely keep an eye out when I'm buying my next laptop.
@faheejii 2 жыл бұрын
7:08 alex : “I’m personally a fan” me looking at his ltt gpu shirt: “i can see that”
@MrDavoz28 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Prometheus XVII from Amazon with an Intel i7-10875H and a 3070, and it's by far the best laptop I've ever owned. Build quality much better than my last MSI. One large hinge in the middle took a sec to get used to, but since that's what broke on my MSI after a couple years of heavy use I'm not complaining. Also waaaay lighter than you'd expect.
@420bobby69 2 жыл бұрын
i did it!!!! the end is finally in sight! i figured out the URL, beat the rage inducing mini game, and waited in the queue...but then i remembered I have a net worth of like $500. F
@AntonioNoack 2 жыл бұрын
F 😁, maybe in the future, you'll have better luck. I am at max in the market for a 600$ GPU, currently rocking a RX 580 (got it for 200€ in 2019, I believe). So even if I would have been recent enough, 2k is way over my budget as well.
@Heathmcdonald 2 жыл бұрын
Better than most people who end up with negative net worth due to debt
@ahosheshi4849 2 жыл бұрын
I have $990 buget
@Deluezeonest 2 жыл бұрын
Its such a good knockoff, it even matches the price. Looked up where to buy one online hoping for a cheaper alternative. Only place I could find to buy it was just as expensive as an alienware XD
@Gaetano.94 2 жыл бұрын
If I had to pay for the M17 R4 that I got for free, would definitely vs the knockoff. Can't beat Dells warranty service.
@jminkvihubyb Жыл бұрын
u just broke XD
@Zinexeon Жыл бұрын
@@jminkvihubyb No, just not an idiot willing to throw piles of money at things that simply aren't worth it. Would rather spend it on a holiday or literally hundreds of pints of beer XD
@techienate 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a video testing if laptop performance is changed by sitting on a desk pad, and various other surfaces.
@simian5805 2 жыл бұрын
SO MUCH camera bounce!
@liviubita4238 2 жыл бұрын
When you can't afford even a knockoff. 😢
@dh66 2 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad... Feel smarter with your money. There are sooo many people who can't afford things like gaming laptops but they buy them on credit anyways.
@gerhardsmith7892 2 жыл бұрын
It's not actually a knockoff
@Clickscap 2 жыл бұрын
@@dh66 my conscious won't let me get things on credit
@daveyalbert4839 2 жыл бұрын
@@Clickscap Follow your Conscious . . . 4-EVER ! ! !
@Andrewl55_ 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for so long for another drop, that I forgot the gamer program still exists.
@markfeuchter2051 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you to everyone at LTT for all they do and the gamer program!
@Ltdcloud 2 жыл бұрын
Alex that was such a good and entertaining video! Nicely done!
@sandwichmeats1753 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, $2200 for the verified gamer 3080 ti after tariffs, taxes, and shipping to the USA. It's cheaper to buy off a scalper on eBay.
@Thetrancemix 2 жыл бұрын
Many of the 3080TIs out there at that price are the lower MSRP models and many people have complained about scalped or resale 3080,3080 TI and 3090s have died on arrival or shortly after. Suspicion is that most of them are pre-used in crypto mining and were taken out of rotation, sold on eBay or Amazon shops to recoup costs at a profitable amount. I'd personally trust Linus over a scalper or 2nd hand reseller. Not Linus fault he is in Canada and you're in US. That being said, it was a great offer for Canadians and included other countries given demand is high, stock is low and the market is greasy with DoA pre-used GPUs.
@olandersnake 2 жыл бұрын
The SSD looks like the ones HP is using. No controller or DRAM cache. Such a shame, especially on these more expensive laptops. These are a ticking time bomb for when the SSD will brick itself. Usually in the 1.5-2 year range. Kinda sad that LTT didn't notice or chose to ignore it.
@TuxraGamer 2 жыл бұрын
They aren't even charging you for that SSD, it's just that they're obligated to provide you with something at all. I mean, I recently bought an HP 16 series and the SSD is one of the cheapest 32/480 Optane units, but it was so cheap I didn't really bother to care. For a couple more bucks I can keep a backup SSD and build a massive laptop.
@olandersnake 2 жыл бұрын
@@TuxraGamer I've replaced 8 of them already for people in my town, and I just do it on the side. I can't imagine how many their actually are. "Aren't even charging you for it" are you for real???? Yes, they charge you for it. The fact that you would defend a company practice like this is sickening. Most people buying computers are not knowledgeable about the inner workings of the parts. Then get scared they have a dead laptop. 7 of the 8 repairs I did the customer didn't have any backup in place for some of the data they lost. How would you feel loosing precious photos or even worse a university dissertation that you have spent months working on to just be gone. Your response deserves zero points.
@TuxraGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@olandersnake I got my laptop for a really low cost, I'm not defending them, but it's not that bad. It's usable, and it works. If you buy a gaming machine, you're supposed to be using your brain while looking for the right one, since practically everyone will be trying to scam you with shiny lights and RGB everywhere.
@TuxraGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@olandersnake Oh and also, don't put your photos on SSDs, that's the whole morale of the story + always keep extra backups if you really do care. You don't have to be extremely tech savvy in order to understand that keeping backups is a good idea. A de-synced encryption key on *ANY* SSD will make your data disappear like nothing.
@olandersnake 2 жыл бұрын
@@TuxraGamer unfortunately most big box stores either don't push or don't have the knowledge of having backups. It's definitely something that I encourage. For how expensive the laptop in the video is I would expect something at least half decent. I would even be happier if it was one of the cheap Chinese nock offs. They at least have a controller on them.
@ilnahro3008 2 жыл бұрын
The VAG program isn't what it used to be since board partners and nVidia (with the 3080 Ti) started participating in the scalping (can't blame them given the mining absurdity). Between the MSRP from nV being $200 too high and MSI asking for another $400 on top of that, they are basically charging what miners are willing to pay for that performance. With the price in the video, I can get a 3080 Ti FE for less on eBay or board partner model from a normal retailer for about the same here in Germany, with much better warranty, not to mention easier support/returns, included. Worse yet, I got a 3090 FE from the official local retailer here at the end of July for less.
@jackjude 2 жыл бұрын
QUAD HD❤ Would be good to know it's colour accuracy though
@Robin.93 2 жыл бұрын
16:10 aspect ratio + 165Hz screen + AMD = perfect
@8Harbinger8 2 жыл бұрын
They didn't even put it in the performance mode :D , Legion 7 beats both laptops overall.
@mini9503 2 жыл бұрын
@@8Harbinger8 Yes, but Legion 7 is a lot more expensive. Having that total package for this price is preferable to most buyers.
@ableemu 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting for Bob of All Trades
@yukimusic3866 2 жыл бұрын
What FPS tracker are you using for these? I wanna benchmark my new rig my friend and i built
@AirForceBase 2 жыл бұрын
Would you ever consider doing a test of laptop cooling pads to see which ones are actually worth it?
@LyricalViking 2 жыл бұрын
It's so weird not seeing Linus do these reviews anymore. But really refreshing.
@PeterMoore5 2 жыл бұрын
Doing that Verified Actual Gamer on mobile was a mistake. Felt like I was playing Getting Over It lol
@chosebines51 2 жыл бұрын
More like Flappy birds. The controls on a tablet were really horrible :-/
@tbone84828 2 жыл бұрын
Did you do the benchmarks while running on battery power?
@mianunya7607 2 жыл бұрын
im impressed by it being 1300 bucks less and also being only a little less fast in that first performance test. kinda makes the performance on the other 2 not seem worth 1300 bucks more but more like 500 bucks or less of a price increase. very nice.
@felixf4378 2 жыл бұрын
Me: He called it a "knock off" it must be cheap. **Checks price**. $1900, oofff 😬
@The_Keeper 2 жыл бұрын
Compared to the Alienware it IS cheap.
@johnbuscher 2 жыл бұрын
$1900 for a 3080 16GB laptop is actually very good. I was tempted years ago by a 1080 laptop for $1800 and that was a discontinued model at the time. So give it a little time, and if this goes on clearance, this is an amazing laptop for the price.
@arijitzindahai 2 жыл бұрын
Prometheus: Lets name this guy Prometheus 16 and the 16 should be in roman numerals. Alex: Nopes.. its XVI😂
@LinusTechTips 2 жыл бұрын
In their marketing videos they called it the X-V-I!!! I also thought it was dumb haha -Alex
@glitterkitten9499 2 жыл бұрын
They also have the Prometheus XVII, it's the newer version
@zippac 2 жыл бұрын
@@LinusTechTips Was the power scheme set to "Best performance" during the benchtest? Especially since it looked like the power chord wasn't plugged in on the Knockoff laptop :o
@whiskeytuesday 2 жыл бұрын
@@glitterkitten9499 Ah yes, the ex vee two
@jakewillsuffice6938 2 жыл бұрын
@@whiskeytuesday Ex Vee Aye Aye, pirate edition
@RedXBruteBS 2 жыл бұрын
They added a mux switch for the 4k panel btw
@panzudo007 2 жыл бұрын
I think "experiencing a laptop" is the best review you can make. Thanks for the insights.
@Pslamist 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats in advance to anyone that's able to take advantage of what Linus talked about. 🤝
@walkinmn 2 жыл бұрын
Which was?
@zachHitz 2 жыл бұрын
@@walkinmn the verified actual gamer program was mentioned
@walkinmn 2 жыл бұрын
@@zachHitz oh ok, thanks!
@grigoriskapr 2 жыл бұрын
Me: "oh! A graphics card at msrp! Maybe I should try getting one!" Me, seconds later: "oh... Yeah, that's as much as I'm budgeting for my entire system..." Good luck to the lucky few!
@rebelprime 2 жыл бұрын
Wish he was selling 3060s at $400 instead
@Snidel 2 жыл бұрын
Please include display testing too, to really know how much of the sRGB and AdobeRGB can cover
@OpalAeon 2 жыл бұрын
I'm on LTT store right now and just completed the game - though I have no plans on buying a GPU since I don't have the money for it. :) Cool video, as always!
@brandon_nope 2 жыл бұрын
Why the hell are there black bars in the video
@samuelmagilocusts2870 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine paying $1600 for a 3080ti at retail price that’s insane! What the heck is MSI thinking. Every time I go to microcenter they literally have a self full of MSI cards because they are so stupidly overpriced! Evga is where it’s at, I bought my FTW3 3080ti for $1399 at microcenter. I recommend you all do similar.
@The_Keeper 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, only buy EVGA if you're ready to RMA the same card 5 times. EVGA has absolutely terrible design, and use the cheapest components possible. No thanks. (Do NOT get MSI either, they try to bury bad reviews from small channels with legal threats.)
@samuelmagilocusts2870 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Keeper You do have a point. The ftw3 is the main card that has been having those crazy issues with mosfets and Amazon’s game. At least they aren’t as expensive as MSI. I would much rather had gotten the Aorus Master or Asus Strix but oh well.
@countpythagoras 2 жыл бұрын
Between this, and the Legion 5 what would you recomend?
@DanBuildsIt 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using my Eluktronics laptop since 2016 and I absolutely adore it!
@deadly_mir 2 жыл бұрын
We live in a time were 90fps at 4k Max settings is "disappointing" Also, they still failed to realize the Alienware also has a mux switch that's disabled in bios by default. That said, its already technically faster than this one, but for the price, this one isn't no slouch
@jklusky2425 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah technology is getting better its been like that for a while. People that gamed for longer were probably surprised when games were at higher fps than like 5-10
@elliotdeclet594 2 жыл бұрын
They do know it was mentioned in a comment under the dell review before this video came out
@Cy12237 2 жыл бұрын
Glad they’re still doing laptops even without Linus
@user-qh8vm1me5w 2 жыл бұрын
#WeHateLinus!1! 1!1!1
@Thegamingpenguin 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-qh8vm1me5w #welovelinus
@MinistryOfMagic_DoM 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Alex has been doing laptops as the main review guy for years.
@chosebines51 2 жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with Linus promoting the Framework laptop :-)
@WayStedYou 2 жыл бұрын
They've already been doing it without Linus for years
@Shakrii 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the simpler presentation more. For me the lack of branding, 16:10 screen, numpad keyboard and specs would make it a very tempting purchase if I needed a new laptop. Not really happy with the look of the keyboard (especially the marked asdw keys) but can easily overlook for functionality. It is a shame about the battery size, although the larger motherboard is probably why we have easy access to both NVMe slots on the bottom.
@alternamasaki429 2 жыл бұрын
"Look at this splashscren" For a moment i thought it got censored in post
@vaderwashere365 2 жыл бұрын
Glad certified gamer is back, but the price on those 3080 Ti's (or was that CAD?) is just too high.
@calvintrinh4869 2 жыл бұрын
Dell: I won’t use AMD Knockoff Chinese brands: Fine, ill do it myself
@andrewyoung4039 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Eluktronics Prometheus XVII laptop. Ryzen 5800h with rtx 3080 Max P. Love it.
@Demonspeeding251 2 жыл бұрын
I had an Eluktronics MECH 17 and it was a great laptop!
@terrok91998 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Linus did not appear just at the beginning is part of the strategy of LTT to mantain credibility knowing that Linus is an investor on laptops market. I like what you do and your compromise with objectivity on your reviews. Nice move.
@ExperiencersInternational 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes, its back im too bad at the game though and i dont have a computer thats even capable of powering that amount of power
@grenade180 2 жыл бұрын
yes, no matter what computer I have, im still bad at the end of the day also haha
@anasdesigner774 2 жыл бұрын
I beat the game twice lol
@ExperiencersInternational 2 жыл бұрын
@@grenade180 the computer I have rn is Athlon 64 X2 based (my laptop is far better, Core i5-9300H based but no Thunderbold support)
@Christosan88 2 жыл бұрын
On the Prometheus 16, Is the lid aluminum too?
@gross____546 2 жыл бұрын
My man's double cheeked up on Tuesday afternoon
@gabrielschirmbeck400 2 жыл бұрын
[internet]: now that linus invested in framework all laptop videos are biased to make framework look good [LMG]: LOOK THIS AMAZING AMD-ALIENWARE KNOCK-OFF
@leetaylor1443 2 жыл бұрын
bias is not Linus style from what i have seen
@jsteezus 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why its Alex reviewing laptops not linus
@gabrielschirmbeck400 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsteezus yes, for a long time. but many suggested LMG drop laptop reviews, which i think is kinda silly.
@gabrielschirmbeck400 2 жыл бұрын
@@leetaylor1443 bias is inherent to human beings. but if you compare his investment in the company vs losing his reputation of almost 10 years of youtube. I dont think he would risk it, Linus really cares for his company
@tulus38 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielschirmbeck400 is it Linus personally invest in Framework instead of LMG? That's why Linus won't review laptops anymore, but everyone else at LMG can
@___Tammy___ 2 жыл бұрын
Anthony should've hosted
@juanmkgani35 2 жыл бұрын
LTT, your video and audio doesn't synchronize anymore at 9:11. I hope you can fix the issue because it's really weird to watch the video that doesn't match the audio. Thanks for the review btw!!
@mercyy6756 2 жыл бұрын
@Linus Tech Tips what do you think, how will this laptop perform with a rtx 3070 (140w), rest same specs
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