Is This Old Stihl MS170 Chainsaw Worth Fixing?

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The Lawnmower Lady

The Lawnmower Lady

Күн бұрын

This old Stihl MS170 chainsaw has many problems but the main complaint is it bogs under load. It's never seen any service, and this video shows several tests and procedures to get it back up and running again. The same principles apply to most any two-stroke lawn and garden gear made by the likes of Husqvarna, Echo, Red Max, Shindaiwa, Craftsman, Ryobi, Poulan, and many others.
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00:00 I'm not Tom
00:55 Overview of problems
02:20 Remove and clean muffler
04:24 Clean spark arrester screen
05:20 Compression check and piston check
06:22 Remove carburetor and linkage
09:29 Remove and replace fuel filter
11:09 Disassemble carburetor
15:46 Replace fuel inlet screen
16:13 Replace fuel pump
16:36 Replace needle
18:23 Replace metering diaphragm
19:28 Pressure and vacuum test crank seals
23:15 Replace carburetor and linkages
25:39 No joy in Mudville
Wear your safety glasses, or you'll shoot your eye out. Try on some gloves. Take off that spark plug boot. Clean your room. Open the windows, those fumes are nasty. Just 'cause I do it, don't think it's the end all, be all solution. There's plenty more ideas out there, I can't take responsibility if you slice off a few fingers after watching my videos. And don't just pour that toxic stuff down the sewer or in the ditch, dispose of waste responsibly. Just be safe, OK?
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@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
DISCLAIMER: In my haste of reassembling this saw for the umpteenth time, I assembled the metering diaphragm side of the carb with the gasket flipped. This will cause flooding. However even if assembled in the correct order, this would not address the gaping hole that was sucking in air on the worn intake manifold boot at 26:24 The correct order is carb, gasket, diaphragm, cover. My sincere apologies for any confusion this might cause. If this video helped you, please consider clicking the $THANKS button above 🙌 Watch this video next to see how I fabricated my pressure/vacuum tester: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fsiDldiYuq64qHU.html
@jimbrewer2893
@jimbrewer2893 4 ай бұрын
Compost happens. You corrected it.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
@@jimbrewer2893 😹
@mrparlanejxtra
@mrparlanejxtra 3 ай бұрын
While a new saw might be the go, a new intake boot would fix it and it would do another turn. Having put all the parts into it, it seems a waste to throw it in the parts box. Why not fix it and buy a second new saw?
@Wanous-hv7zo
@Wanous-hv7zo 2 ай бұрын
Put a fully adjustable 025 carb on it
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 2 ай бұрын
@@Wanous-hv7zo that works too, but that wouldn't fix the worn intake manifold
@wayneberry8703
@wayneberry8703 4 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw that exhaust I knew that the spark arrester was fully blocked, lol. The rest of the saw was a real mess. As usual you’ve done a great job and very thorough.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching!
@garys8754
@garys8754 Ай бұрын
As a MS170 owner for the past 6 years who has performed basic maintenance on my saw, I found this video very informative and well done. I’m at the point of having to perform some of the maintenance shown here so what I learned will be put to good use. A tip O’ the hat to you.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench
@G.I.JeffsWorkbench 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful job talking us thru what you did & why you did it. If I was in your area, I’d drop off my small engines for your patient repair. Since i’m not, I appreciate your taking the time to show us how it’s done. Thank you!
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@BrucesShop
@BrucesShop 4 ай бұрын
That bottle of pinot grigio helped.. Thanks for taking us to school Stella.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
😀 Any time Mr Bruce! Cheers!
@hickorystx
@hickorystx 4 ай бұрын
Stella, this was absolutely the best video I have seen in a very long time. The detailed narration with rationales was over the the top for me. BRAVO!!!! How you kept it all together with all the tiniest of parts and assembled with confidence was simply breathtaking. I am so impressed with your cool demeanor, confidence and expertise. You are one of those special people that makes this country great!! Thank you so very much for sharing your projects. Whomever provided you with this challenge should be thankful for your skill and expertise, including your physical dexterity!!! What a PRO you are. God Bless...! 😀
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Mr G!
@BearE9090
@BearE9090 4 ай бұрын
Great tip on how to preasure test the crank case. Thanks.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@robertblacksmith4355
@robertblacksmith4355 4 ай бұрын
Friend gave me his Stihl weadeater & shindaiwa blower in that condition both needed tune ups both work much better now great video Tom!
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@ghostdevill
@ghostdevill 3 ай бұрын
I love the MS170 ! I own 2 off them and some bigger versions. But these tiny saws never let me down! Just clean them good after use and they run for years.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
Take good care of anything, and it lasts a long time. I appreciate you watching.
@tuberocker69
@tuberocker69 19 күн бұрын
Great work! Your explanation in each process helped alot! I have a little 170 that I pair with my 261. They are pretty good little saws for what they are.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 18 күн бұрын
Great to hear!
@dad2ni
@dad2ni 4 ай бұрын
Excellent videos. Thanks!
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
And a huge Super Thanks from me for supporting my channel! I truly appreciate you watching my videos. Cheers!
@nashguy207
@nashguy207 4 ай бұрын
Great video Stella. I hate working with the linkages on a chainsaw. I love my Vessel screw drivers. I have a mighty vac 8500 kit and it is very handy. Have a great day!
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Cheers Bob! I love mine too!
@PDAUSRC
@PDAUSRC 4 күн бұрын
Finally bought a compressor to have compressed air for cleaning and drying etc. Great tool to have. Thx for your videos, hope you are going ok, looking fwd to next video!
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 күн бұрын
I've been on a little break. Thanks for asking. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@PDAUSRC
@PDAUSRC 4 күн бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady More to life than pleasing all your KZfaq fans! I've started a small repair shop in retirement for a hobby really. Prob about 40 or 50 machines so far. You and the usual others in the small engine clan have been a terrific help and I enjoy all your adventures! Pete.
@HobbyMotorDK
@HobbyMotorDK 4 ай бұрын
Good video Stella - it clearly shows the amount of work and frustration associated with repairing low cost chainsaws - thanks for sharing this.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Claus! They are frustrating.
@thomasmagiera3283
@thomasmagiera3283 2 ай бұрын
wow! That was sure a lot of time consuming effort. Great Instructional video. I really enjoyed that. Thank you.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching!
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 2 ай бұрын
Oh snap! I was waiting to see a great running saw, after your excellent repair work. Personally, I did something really foolish that led to the demise of my MS250, same age as the MS170. I bought a new one, and have the original for parts... Great video.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 2 ай бұрын
You and me both! If it were my saw, I might have fixed it, but I don't blame the owner for pulling the plug before repairs got expensive. He now has a great parts saw. That piston was in great shape. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@andersforrad
@andersforrad 4 ай бұрын
Nice video and thanks for sharing. I totall agree, sometimes is just not worth it and you gotta know when to hit the brake. Nice video and goor thoughts as always. Cheers! 👍
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Anders! I appreciate you watching.
@STTC
@STTC 2 ай бұрын
Wowsers, this video flew! well done on this one
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 2 ай бұрын
I honestly wish I knew why, LOL. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 4 ай бұрын
I like your pressure tester, I need to get one.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
It's a great diagnostic tool, let alone a good brake bleeder for my scooter. I've already purchased the MV8500. I've gotten my money's worth on that old kit.
@vailaulau5938
@vailaulau5938 2 ай бұрын
Good job.i want to learn more❤
@barryballbag2361
@barryballbag2361 3 ай бұрын
Great video thanks Tom
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@jonlambshead5115
@jonlambshead5115 4 ай бұрын
Great Job , Well Done
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@joerhea5785
@joerhea5785 4 ай бұрын
Another great video!!
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@hickorystx
@hickorystx 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!🙏
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Whoa! Mr G!!! It's my pleasure. Super thanks to you for supporting my channel. Cheers!
@hubby-tubadventures01
@hubby-tubadventures01 4 ай бұрын
"Tom" re the mityvac, I had one delivered about 8 hours ago after seeing the rave reviews. I have a dud. Box is internally battered and it holds no pressure or vacuum. The dial is all scuffed and I think they sent me a second hand unit. No user instructions BUT the warranty was present. Yet to do my return request as I got too busy watching your vids. Keep 'em coming.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Dang! That's terrible. If from AMZN, yes there are often QC problems with returns. I hope you get a good one soon. I already bought one, no regrets. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
@hubby-tubadventures01
@hubby-tubadventures01 4 ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady Yep AMZN, have been good overnight but i have ordered a new one and instructed them to contact the company and perform QC and better packaging. AMZN gifted me £10 but I just wanted what I ordered. HeyHo, I have to wait another fortnight.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
@@hubby-tubadventures01 Score! A £10 discount.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that mate, that sucks :(
@tracythompson1692
@tracythompson1692 4 ай бұрын
good advice
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ianlaconianhthesmallengine124
@ianlaconianhthesmallengine124 4 ай бұрын
No I'm not Tom. I'm the lawn mower lady. Nice work.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs Ай бұрын
Hahaha
@rickthelian2215
@rickthelian2215 4 ай бұрын
I thought that at the beginning Stella, being $199.00 a Stihjn shop would of charged an arm and a leg plus parts- Best path is to replace and keep old one as a parts machine😊
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
I think a happy customer at the end of the day is a good thing. Thanks for watching.
@Rein_Ciarfella
@Rein_Ciarfella 4 ай бұрын
I have a clamp on vice I put on my outside bench any time I have a muffler like that. I burn off the spark arrestor and the muffler completely. The muffler always produces a lot of smoke and flames up a bit when the carbon starts to burn. I keep going, into both sides, until it stops smoking. Does a thorough job in a fairly short time.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Good ideas.
@edwardsabo8368
@edwardsabo8368 4 ай бұрын
When you showed the piston going up and down it looked like there weren’t any piston rings on that piston.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
It was hard to see, but the rings looked good. Still had 135 PSI
@edwardsabo8368
@edwardsabo8368 4 ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLadyexactly
@Dicofol1
@Dicofol1 3 ай бұрын
Great detailed video, thanks for sharing. What is your opinion of clone chainsaw kit and of the cheap Amazon chainsaws?
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate you watching. I think you nailed it on the head… Cheap, and near about disposable. There’s far better quality in an established brand as well as the follow-up customer buying it from a local shop.
@Turningwrenches85
@Turningwrenches85 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes on the parts cannon you gotta know when to cease fire and retreat , this one was more better off cost effective wise a parts machine for him well done stella 🔧
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
Haha! You know it. Cheers!
@Turningwrenches85
@Turningwrenches85 2 ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady cheers 🍻
@noelstractors-firewood57
@noelstractors-firewood57 3 ай бұрын
That’s to bad after that work it didn’t operate Stella. Any way, that’s the way it goes, have a great weekend. 👍🏻👍🏻👋👋
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, you too! I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 4 ай бұрын
I have seldom found a new lifter lever to be improperly adjusted. I always use every new part in a rebuild kit, including the spring. Did I see you put the gasket on the pump side, first. The diaphragm goes against the carb body on the pump side and then the gasket. On the metering side the gasket does go on first and then the diaphragm. I use a Might Vac for pressure testing.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Yes, did you read my pinned comment? Mitivac is a great tool for small engine diagnosis.
@ILOVEMACHINES225
@ILOVEMACHINES225 4 ай бұрын
great video
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@luvegg7890
@luvegg7890 4 ай бұрын
Great useful video.. I think you may have put the metering diaphragm gasket on the wrong side of the diaphragm causing the needle valve to open early.. Sorry if I'm wrong..
@KensSmallEngineRepair
@KensSmallEngineRepair 4 ай бұрын
You ARE right! Gasket first on Metering Diaphragm side! Will cause flooding!
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Yikes! I'm busted.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out. I did pin a comment to address this. This chainsaw was a multi-day challenge, (wrong parts arrived, multiple days I could not work on it blah, blah, blah) and if you notice that glove I'm wearing only on my right hand, I slammed my knuckle trying to start it the week before. I'm not saying this is any reasonable excuse for this oversight. There are often hours of video takes to get a good camera angle, or decent lighting. And we all make mistakes sometimes. This would not fix the gaping air sucking hole due to the worn intake manifold boot (26:24)
@Rein_Ciarfella
@Rein_Ciarfella 4 ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady It’s True Confessions at Stella’s! 😂👍❤️
@cathymuehring893
@cathymuehring893 3 ай бұрын
Glad to find your channel. I love my Sthil 170 but exhaust has been wet since new. I threw away the spark arester. Is it OK to spray that brake cleaner in the cly and wash away the lube ?
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
If you do that, you'll need to add a few squirts of 2-stroke oil in the cylinder, pull the starter to get those rings we'll lubed. Expect it to be a little smoky when you first start it. That brake cleaner will flush out all the good stuff. Thanks for watching.
@filip100s
@filip100s 4 ай бұрын
At 18:35 wrong order of diaphragm and gasket...😢
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Did you read my pinned comment?
@RaysLaughsAndLyrics
@RaysLaughsAndLyrics 4 ай бұрын
(Not a task 'anyone' can see to complete success.) Tom now at an impass; Rubber gasket B trash Dick is no help as well, Failed, no time 2 dwell Harry does concur A new saw, fer sure! Stella: Another great repair video showing the reality of small engine repair. Thanks for your valuable time and resources, so generously shared with us. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@RaysLaughsAndLyrics
@RaysLaughsAndLyrics 4 ай бұрын
@TheLawnmowerLady BTW.. a thumb ring is a reminder that ride sharing need not involve an APP✌️👍
@Big_Johns
@Big_Johns 4 ай бұрын
Well Tom you can't say you didn't try, nice explanation as you went along though. Amazon has the same MityVac MV8500 for $88 instead of $125 from Walmart. 👍🙂
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Thx! That AMZN link is in the description. The pop-ups changes regularly. Thanks for watching.
@Big_Johns
@Big_Johns 4 ай бұрын
Guess I better start reading the descriptions huh. 🙈🤣
@pracakosaipilarka4301
@pracakosaipilarka4301 4 ай бұрын
Respect 👍
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@timvoiss1568
@timvoiss1568 4 ай бұрын
You might want to put a rag or something blocking the exhaust port when cleaning to prevent anything from getting inside.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right. Cheers!
@shane3878
@shane3878 3 ай бұрын
I have had mine for many years and abused the living heck out of it. Using for roots and stumps with carbide chain the last few years. Still runs like a top. But the chain started coming loose quickly. New bar, chain, sprocket and adjuster. Same thing. Loosens up after a couple revs. Shaft is spinning visually true with no binding. Last thing I'm gonna do is change the cover since these don't have the bar bumpers like the bigger saws. 200 bucks for a new one so not gonna put anymore money into it.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 4 ай бұрын
Use Purple Power to clean saws with an old tooth brush and compressed air. This saw has been used a lot with bad fuel and left to sit a long time with ethanol fuel in it from what I can tell. The only way that throttle rod came off is for it to be removed by someone. I use Walbro or Zama parts on my saws. Sten makes some good parts but I do not use them unless they are all I can get, which is not usually the case. My MS 170 is sitting out in my shop loaded with Stihl MotoMix. I would bet money it will not run and it has been a year since I ran it.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Actually that throttle linkage can pop off when the choke lever is forced around that barb sticking out that engages the linkage into the 1/2 choke position. When that happens, the small bend in the linkage pushes around to the wrong side of that plastic barb. The linkage then pops off the throttle on the carb body when you move the choke handle past the 1/2 choke position into the off position. The same thing can happen if the choke lever is forced into 1/2 or full choke position without engaging slightly on the throttle.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 4 ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady you mean if someone forces the control lever out of its Norman stepped position the throttle rod can disengage. I have never had that to happen but I know how to crank a Stihl saw. I have about 20 of them.
@haneyoakie14
@haneyoakie14 4 ай бұрын
Tom! That is Vintage! 😊❤
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Sorta like me. 😹
@haneyoakie14
@haneyoakie14 4 ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady Stella- you are the best vintage.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs Ай бұрын
Hahaha
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 3 ай бұрын
I use a .25” drill to seat the inlet screen in its hole.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
That works too. Thanks for watching.
@josephchamness9915
@josephchamness9915 2 ай бұрын
In the UK for the Carb Manifold the OEM 1 is $20 and the cheap ones from China about $3 to $7.
@hillbilly4christ638
@hillbilly4christ638 3 ай бұрын
Someone brought me a saw like this. The boot between the carb and the cylinder had a crack in it, leaned out the mix and fried the piston and cylinder. I sourced the parts and they cost more than a new saw. I found it kind a play on words, Stihl, steal. I was working on old school saws without the boot that were still running and just needed some maintenance. Very interesting, anti vibration turned into vibrating that dudes money out of his pocket. Yup, steal.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
I hear ya!
@user-ss5gs2jt8u
@user-ss5gs2jt8u 2 ай бұрын
Fire it up elkskins the Legend Taryl no body Beat 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 p.s. Taryl wood have figured that out and saved this man in Alot of different ways😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@luxbeci2
@luxbeci2 4 ай бұрын
What is it pressure méter maschine What you use pressure text in carburator and engine?
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Mitivac MV8500
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 15 күн бұрын
Gave up too early on this one. I suspect the spark arrestor was only issue and the throttle arm fell off when he was monkeying with it. The symptoms match up exactly and I have personally ran into that problem a few times before. Excessive idle time and/or heavy oil mixture does it and was also indicated by the spark plug condition (although the spark plug was still fine and would have cleaned up). The later problem of it not running was caused by the carb rebuild which was probably identified after talking to the customer and the decision was made to go new. I don't suspect the intake boot because it held vaccum with no problems and if there was an issue it would have showed up there. Even if there was a tiny issue a light smear of rtv would have solved it but I don't believe it was necessary in this case and feel the vacuum test proves that theory. The saw had great compression and it was a xmas gift from a parent so while financially more labor sometimes doesn't make sense the sentimental value may.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 5 күн бұрын
It only held vacuum when I inserted that rubber in between. I was trying to test the crankcase seals, and it would not seal until I added that rubber. That intake manifold should be sitting proud 1mm or so on the engine case. It was one massive sucking air leak. I agree on the sentimental value, but the guy is keeping the saw for parts. Thanks for watching.
@cancelchannel3394
@cancelchannel3394 3 ай бұрын
I would have built that little saw into an animal, stihl products are always worth the effort and money to rebuild 😊
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
If it was mine, I probably would tear it down and replace that intake manifold. Hard to justify that expense to a paying customer. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@joehead1294
@joehead1294 3 ай бұрын
There's a pile out back of every small engine shop composed of residential equipment like this. Owner could have taken better care but he knew what he had. Used hard, put up wet.
@shanehanlin9253
@shanehanlin9253 23 күн бұрын
See this is what I want to see a regular person doing this stuff she isn't using anything that the everyday person doesn't have
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 21 күн бұрын
I appreciate your observation. I try to make my videos accessible to the average homeowner that may not possess all the speciality tools that often make the job easier. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
@chuckhuff7123
@chuckhuff7123 4 ай бұрын
Looking like you'll need to put a longer pull start rope in that saw😮
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
That would be helpful.
@cancelchannel3394
@cancelchannel3394 3 ай бұрын
Tin Man in Canada would have turned that little MS170 into a beast of a saw 😊
@alext8828
@alext8828 Ай бұрын
18:52, Why does it look like there's a carb passageway not covered on that pump cover? I'm not familiar w/ these carbs so excuse my question please.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady Ай бұрын
If I recall, that's an alignment stub. It doesn't pass through.
@alext8828
@alext8828 Ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady Ah so. Makes sense.
@Rein_Ciarfella
@Rein_Ciarfella 3 ай бұрын
Hey, Stella! Thought you might want to see this comment I read on James Condon’s channel today. “@comeasyouare4545 48 minutes ago Build a shaker, or tumbler for gas tanks. An old cloth dryer makes a good one. Just disconnect the heating element. Drill holes through. the drum to suspend the tank in the center at four points solid cooper wire. Number 12 should do.” Maybe time to scrounge one of those old dryers people throw away because they don’t heat anymore? 😉👍
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
If I lived on a farm, maybe. I’m sort of landlocked, and live in a tiny house, LOL
@gonojo6527
@gonojo6527 2 ай бұрын
These are chainsaws for occasional use, it was probably never truly maintained as it should have been. That being said for everything you put into it depending on where you are and how some places price gouged you these chainsaws are selling for $200 and many places less so I would go with the new MS 170 at your local Stihl dealer not necessarily or Ace Hardware or anything else that marks them up.
@luxbeci2
@luxbeci2 4 ай бұрын
Why you not use Pascal and Bar pressure méter test? I use Bar my Stihl 880 and Stihl 171 and Stihl FS560 and Stihl HS45
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
PSI is most common for pressure and and inHG (inches of mercury) is used for vacuum.
@Kyle-bb9zp
@Kyle-bb9zp 2 ай бұрын
It's worth fixing but lot of work had to go into it to make it a lot better
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 2 ай бұрын
If it was mine, I probably would fix it. But cost prohibitive for a client.
@almclean4835
@almclean4835 4 ай бұрын
Can’t win them all. I’ve just recently worked on a ms170. It wouldn’t start, easy fix. Just had to put the plug back into it, somebody had taken it out and not put it back in !
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Haha! If they were all that simple... I did get a Honda mower one time... the owner complained it would start easily, run OK for about 3-4 minutes. Turns out she was turning the fuel tap on for about 5-10 seconds, while she checked/added fuel. She then turned the fuel tap off, and then started the mower! SMH
@Vipex134.
@Vipex134. 4 ай бұрын
If this plug is bad, you should see my plug. It is very VERY oily. It has to be tho because my piston is scored and it has about 1.2hp from an 1.9hp
@luxbeci2
@luxbeci2 4 ай бұрын
What problem this Stihl 170? You not know setting carburator Jack? I have Stihl 171 and Stihl 880
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
There are no adjustments on Stihl MS170 carburetor. What problem with you?
@luxbeci2
@luxbeci2 4 ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady Why you say What problem with me??
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Your comment sounded rude and condescending: assuming I don't know how to set the adjustment screws on a 2-stroke. Why call me Jack? Is that shorthand for I don't know jacks**t ? There are no adjustments on a Stihl MS170 carburetor. What do you not understand about that? Even if there were H and L screws, no adjustments would over come the massive air leak presented by the old and compressed intake boot. Did you watch the video till the end? Further repairs would be more expensive that buying a new one.
@Vipex134.
@Vipex134. 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the MS170 & 180's mufflers should be drilled out, this plate in the front of it should be widened with a flat head screw driver and all that to make it run a bit better. (i think it does help but i could be wrong)
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Sounds good to me! Thanks for watching!
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 2 ай бұрын
A Champion plug is not the Stihl factory plug for this saw. It should be a Bosch plug. Bad gas is the most common two cycle problem. Not running them wide open in wood is another problem. They are made to operate at full throttle in wood. Failure to do so will block the spark arrester screen.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 2 ай бұрын
Champions are not shabby plugs. I can't say the same about Torch or E3, they go directly into the bin.
@haneyoakie14
@haneyoakie14 Ай бұрын
You doing ok Stella? I miss your awesome content and your can-do attitude. I hope you are just too busy to post videos right now.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady Ай бұрын
Working on it Tom! Just on a little break. I appreciate you checking in. Cheers!
@haneyoakie14
@haneyoakie14 Ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady I worry about my peeps. I’m happy to hear UR OK.
@PJBHolden
@PJBHolden 3 ай бұрын
Trash the spark arrestor entirely
@greenkeeper448
@greenkeeper448 4 ай бұрын
Opti-2 to the rescue.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Interesting. I had to look that up. Do you use that in your 2-T gear?
@alext8828
@alext8828 2 ай бұрын
That air filter is hard as a carp! And there's yer dinner.
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 4 ай бұрын
Use Moto Mix in it.
@DIYVariety
@DIYVariety 4 ай бұрын
Great job but cant win them all
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
I know, right?
@brianking1138
@brianking1138 4 ай бұрын
This is why so much cheap equipment gets thrown away. My local shops charge $90 per hour. Throw in a few parts and you can spend more than its worth really fast.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Sad but true.
@davea5150
@davea5150 4 ай бұрын
Maybe the gas mixture was to rich, just a thought.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
I think just years of neglect. The only reason it was running before I cleaned it up was it was so clogged up. It was getting air through the manifold leak enough to idle, but the screen was so clogged, it died
@user-ot4dc9lk5d
@user-ot4dc9lk5d Ай бұрын
Great might keep those grandkids off those iPads
@rickthelian2215
@rickthelian2215 3 ай бұрын
Stella aren’t they only $199 new ?
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
Yep! I showed some ads towards the end. If it was mine, I might have fixed it.
@bradpotter6401
@bradpotter6401 4 ай бұрын
As much time as you had invested in this saw, you should have finished the job and replaced that seal between the carb and cylinder. I wouldn't have charged the guy any extra time because it's something that should have been done when you had the carb off for rebuilding. That's just my 2 cents worth.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@bradpotter6401
@bradpotter6401 4 ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady I failed to mention in my earlier comment that you are a knowledgeable mechanic and I like your technique. I use old gas as my cleaning solvent too.
@campervanjimbob3764
@campervanjimbob3764 3 ай бұрын
Crank seals
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 3 ай бұрын
Nope, that's what I showed when I blocked off the intake. The crack seals held pressure and vacuum.
@stevenbelsky1652
@stevenbelsky1652 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand why people spend all this money on equipment and don't do general maintenance on it.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 2 ай бұрын
I know. Right?
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 4 ай бұрын
I just set the muffler on fire and let it burn it out
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
That works too!
@johnclarke6647
@johnclarke6647 4 ай бұрын
That is not the factory plug for a MS 170. It should have a Bosch WSR6F in it. The owner is lying about his saw.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Granted the owner has never taken it to a shop for service in its lifetime, but calling him a liar is a bit harsh. I don't think changing a spark plug, or replacing the chain (which he as done) really moves the needle here. I drive antique 2-stroke motor scooters, and I don't consider swapping out a spark plug on the side of the road as service or maintenance.
@ronwilliams266
@ronwilliams266 4 ай бұрын
It's always better to repair the older equipment. Tere just built better. And people need to know how .some day you may not be able to buy a gas-powered saw.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
I agree, especially if it was my own saw, I would likely complete the repairs. But I would be doing a disservice to my client if my parts/labor for the repair exceeded the price of a new one. I appreciate you watching!
@ronwilliams266
@ronwilliams266 4 ай бұрын
@TheLawnmowerLady I've always been a fix it my self kind of guy.one of meny things my DAD tought me as a kid.im now in retirement age I should have more time. And you're welcome. I like watching clips that have good information. Tha k you.
@CompetentSalesUSA
@CompetentSalesUSA 4 ай бұрын
May need gloves when spraying carb cleaner . Not good to get it on the skin.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
I often forget, it is a good idea.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 4 ай бұрын
If it was that bad after a life time of mechanic work I would not be 73 and cutting firewood all day
@jameslovering9158
@jameslovering9158 3 ай бұрын
That poor saw looks like its been abused !
@MaximRecoil
@MaximRecoil Ай бұрын
The owner should just buy an electric chainsaw rather than another Stihl MS170. I think that electric chainsaws have made low-end gas chainsaws more or less obsolete. Gas may still be king for professionals, but they aren't the ones buying $200 chainsaws, and they know how to maintain them. For someone who just uses a chainsaw for occasional yard work at home I think they'd have better luck with an electric one.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady Ай бұрын
I agree.
@stephenthomas8517
@stephenthomas8517 3 ай бұрын
Looks like he is using bad gas and the wrong mixture.
@alext8828
@alext8828 Ай бұрын
Very disappointed that after all that, he needs a new saw. What a waste.
@briansmith611
@briansmith611 2 ай бұрын
NEVER... EVER use gasoline as a cleaning solvent
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady Ай бұрын
Why not? Service manuals for decades suggested this exactly. What do you think is in a petroleum based de-greaser?
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs Ай бұрын
The best cleaner out there 🤣
@Kyle-bb9zp
@Kyle-bb9zp 2 ай бұрын
People that don't want to take care of there gas powered equipment. Should just buy battery powered equipment. This saw is horrible I have a ms170 my dad loaned me. Way better shape it's 5 years old. People got money to burn in my opinion.
@bradzimmer239
@bradzimmer239 2 ай бұрын
One of the worst saws I ever owned, and have zero regret having sold it.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha! I get it.
@jgbelmont
@jgbelmont 4 ай бұрын
NO. Go buy a MS360
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
It’s a step up for sure.
@jgbelmont
@jgbelmont 4 ай бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady In my experience you will save money buying bigger pro saws. I burn those little ones up. Always someone sticking it in some thick hardwood it was not meant for. Pro saws are far easier to service also.
@davea5150
@davea5150 4 ай бұрын
Why do you have a ring on your thumb? That has to be uncomfortable!!!
@wayneessar7489
@wayneessar7489 4 ай бұрын
Thumb rings are a normal Lady thing.
@TheLawnmowerLady
@TheLawnmowerLady 4 ай бұрын
Not sure why really. It is uncomfortable on my right (dominant) hand, say if I have to grip a screwdriver.
@Rein_Ciarfella
@Rein_Ciarfella 4 ай бұрын
Nunyabiznis! 😉
@kevinhaley6776
@kevinhaley6776 4 ай бұрын
Cause she can
@user-qx7mf8vw3d
@user-qx7mf8vw3d 4 ай бұрын
I like the content that you
@jimlongstaff5580
@jimlongstaff5580 2 ай бұрын
Ther's an artery on your thumb it's the main digit for your hand loose it you are f--ked listen to me I have rainards syndrome in my hands i'am 71 and having real trouble
@Wanous-hv7zo
@Wanous-hv7zo 2 ай бұрын
They are worth fixing
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