Hope you and your family are well Dave ❤

Hey Dave. Thinking of your family and wishing your wife all the best.

The dynamic duo has returned! 🎉

It's sure is good to see you working again. Hope all is well with you and your family.

Welcome back Dave and I love James Douma. . . thanks for having him. He's great.

James Douma is the most interesting person I've listened to on AI especially FSD. Great interview!

Great to see you again Dave! Hope things are good with you and your family! All the best

Glad to see you're back, Dave. Hope all is well with the family!

Glad to see you back Dave!

You guys have great chemistry - could listen to you talk all day.

I hope you and your family are doing well Dave. You don't post often but when you do... THEY'RE BANGERS. Thanks for the insight!

I miss you Dave I'm glad to see you creating content again welcome back.

Another Douma interview! Let’s Go!!!

Nice to see you back on KZfaq dave!!! Wishing everyone well!!❤

Good to see you back!! Hope your wife and family are doing well.

Hi Dave! So good to have you back! I missed your good presence, and have thought of you and your wife often. I pray that health is coming her and to you. Lots of love, Ramsay

James was the first I listened to - thx to Dave - that said what I said in my small bubble „Tesla has all ingredients to build a humanoid robot“ … thx for ur time 🙏🏽

GREAT TO SEE YOU, DAVE! and I hope you and your wife are finding important answers... we all care about you and your family. ❤

Been waiting for this discussion! Always great to hear James perspective. Hope things are getting better Dave!

Great to see you again Dave. I hope your wife is well.

Good to have you back. Always sending good vibes your way! 🙏

Praying for your wife speedy recovery. Good to see you back brother!

Glad to see you back,hope you're family is well.

Was waiting for this as soon as I saw the demo! I’m sure I’ll be watching this multiple times.

Great to see you back Dave. Hope your family is well. I love James insights. Thanks…

Super appreciate this technical breakdown in layman's terms. We're trying our best to keep up!

This was the dynamic duo conversation that I wanted to listen to about FSD Bet 12. Thanks for doing this Dave and James.

Hope you and your wife/kids are doing well! Thanks for everything❤️

Thank you both for this interview! There were so many nuggets that I ended up listening to it twice. It would be great to have one or more follow-on interviews if you're up for it. We're also praying for Dave's wife and for the family.

Thank you Dave for putting videos again. Praying for your family! Miracles always happen.

James Douma = instant click. Also best wishes for you and your family, Dave.

James is awesome, but it takes two to tango .. Nobody in Tesla space can interview like Dave, especially when it come to AI!! I pray that Dave’s wife is doing better 🙏🙏❤️❤️

Hi Dave, so nice to see you back man! Big hug from Europe 😊

So good to see you two back, like the good old days

Welcome back Dave .Hope you and your family are well Dave❤

Best wishes for your family. Good to see James back on your channel.

welcome back Dave

Literally YESTERDAY I was putting down my Elon Musk biography and started thinking "Gee... I miss those KZfaq videos from Dave Lee... I wonder when we might get another one of those...." and this followed from the video I saw a couple days ago... where James was being interviewed by another KZfaqr.... which was an "ok" interview.... but I was thinking... I want to see James interviewed by DAVE.....

Good to see a new video from you. Hope you, your wife and family are well.

Great to see you two again. Very insightful conversation as usual.

Great questions Dave, especially wrt “was their a specific event that occurred which allowed them to jump to full neural nets so quickly”?

Interesting discussion, Dave. Good to see you back. Hope you and your Family are travelling well.

All the best to your family and especially your wife Dave, very happy to see you again!

I am so happy to see again , DAVe!!!!!

Great to see you again Dave. I hope your everything is well.

Dave and James are a great example of complimentary latent spaces

Well come back Dave ! Best of the Best video with James ! Hope everything works fine finally for you an your family !

Hope family well Dave, nice to have you back

Dave and James together - these are the best streams

I really like to see James Douma talk with George Hotz. He has an amazing idea of End to End method, and I would like to see James Douma opinion of it.

Great to see you Dave! Many good thoughts and prayers to your family.

Love to you and family Dave from Australia

Happy to see you back Dave

Yaaaaas! You lured James away from his pet bears long enough to grill him on V12!

Very informative conversation. Thank you, Dave and James!

Good to see you again.

It was absolutely wonderful to see you again. It was so very interesting to hear you and James speak.

I hope you and your family are well Dave. I look forward to watching the video.

Great to hear from you two, love the deep dives. This will require a second (or third) listening on my part to understand a little more of the technicals, but happy to get to imagine a bit more of the puzzle.

Welcom back! Enjoy seeing your video again. Hope everything is good for you and your family! All the best…

Get well soon for you and family Dave ❤

Great interview Dave and James. I really enjoyed it and James you explain so well! I hope your families are doing well too!❤

Im convinced V12 and end to end is the key to solve this! I have followed this for so many years. No bullshit codes that just confuses the ai brain.

Friday morning, getting a coffee, seeing a 2h episode of dave and james on FSD... perfect start of the day.

This is what a good conversation looks like. Thanks for doing this and sharing with us!

Absolute gold! Thanks guys!!

Best wishes Dave ❤🙌

Nice to have you back Dave, you've been sorely missed.

Welcome back Dave, Hope all is well with your family. James has coined a new term, I think. STH - Safer Than Humans

Love you guys, thank you both for what you share with us. 👍🏻💯

So good to see this. I hope seeing this means things are on track on the personal side. I've been thinking for days about this conversation and the fact that it might not happen. Good to see you both

🤗THANKS DAVE,JAMES 👍💚💚💚

Dave!! Where ya been buddy??

Hey Dave! Nice to see you again! ❤

Good to see you both again. Especially glad to see Dave back. I hope your family is well. ❤ Will be a great podcast I am sure 😅 Ohh man, I missed these deep AI dives so much! Thanks guys, it was a banger! ❤

Welcome back…good to see you…missed your videos.

Welcome back Hope everything goes well

Welcome Back Dave! 🙏🏽 Wish you and your family well.

good to see you dave

I always pray for you and your family!!! Thanks for taking your very precious time to share about TSLA FSD.

So great to see you doing another podcast. Dave really missed you. Praying your wife and family.

Welcome back Dave!

My two favourite Tesla analysts in one podcast!

Thanks Dave. Very useful insights from you and James. Perhaps a minor point / question. I get that the NN works out by itself what it needs to do at a stop sign. I wonder what happens when different rules apply in different places. For example, in the USA you can turn on red unless it explicitly states that you are not permitted. However, in New York City you can’t turn on red unless it specifically states that you can. In Europe you can’t typically turn on red. I wonder how the NN will work this out or is this the place for some heuristics ?

Thanks Dave for the interview as always. As exciting as the V12 demo from Elon was, what is not being considered is the downsides to the removal of basic heuristics. "Never run over people" as an example heuristic in this regard is a very interesting one to think about. Certainly there are extreme situations where "never run over people" should also be violated e.g: Run over 1 person instead of a group of people when the car has no other choice. One could argue that if we are training based on good human behavior in every situation, then good human driving actions will always guide us towards the better action to take in every scenario. However there are situations where the solution to the next control action is not so obvious even for humans. As we march towards increasing 9s of reliability, the sample size of errors become smaller, less examples, less data, harder/longer to train for said situations. How does Tesla prevent regressions happening to other driving cases that were working just fine while trying to solve for increasingly harder scenarios. With heuristics, they become guardrails or hard limiters if you will to prevent regressions, without them, I'm not so certain. The demo drive for V12 was indicative of this problem. After viewing that video carefully, I believe that FSD erroneously thought the left turn signal was the relevant light for it to follow and thats why it stopped before going into the intersection (not because human drivers stay out of intersections under heavy traffic conditions) and thats why it started to accelerate when the left most light turned green. Now as mentioned by many others, this is assumed to be "easily" fixable by providing lots of intersections with left turn signals. Sure but the question is what is the possibility of said training undoing the work for all intersections without a specific left turn light. This is just an example of my line of thought where finding best fit for increasingly edge case scenarios has exponentially increasing odds on introducing regressions to the rest of the system. Another way to think about this is its much easier to update a function that satisfies 5 constraints to satisfy a 6th constraint without breaking any of the other 5. But as you increase in the number of constraints (driving edge cases) it becomes harder and harder to find the best fit function for increasing number of constraints WITHOUT breaking (regressions) the previous ones. With heuristics, its easier to setup guardrails to prevent major major regressions going out to public. Without them, its much harder. I would have loved to engage James on this topic. Again thanks to both of you for the value you provide to the community.

🎉 Good to see you Dave!❤🎉

Love it! Best wishes to you and your wife..

Many intriguing nuggets in here, much to think about, and I'm still so undecided! Thank you Dave and James, very illuminating. I'm excited to see what emerges over the coming six to twelve months. I would suggest one caveat however - the robotaxi may not be the panacea people think it is. For every journey, there will be an empty car going to the next pick up, especially at peak times when traffic is mostly one-way. And as the convenience of self-driving increases, so a new equilibrium of inconvenience will be established thanks to people using their time to work (or relax!) in the traffic - and possibly more child trips. The more fundamental problem of car-dependent city planning will remain, although I guess overnight trips in sleeper cars will hit airlines and motels hard.

We love you Dave ❤ god bess you and your family.

Love James Douma

Welcome back Dave

Love the in-person vibe. Cool studio

That was really long, and worth watching every minute. I'm sure there will be many other streams showing clips. I will watch again in a few days, skipping about for some subject details...

Holy moly Dave you are lookin good brother!

Great stuff. Hope to see more vids soon

Good to see you again Dave! Thanks for this video.

Good to see you again Dave. Hope your wife is doing well.

Great conversation! Prayers for your family Dave!

Good to hear from you again. Hope you and your family are doing well.

James is an expert!