Hey man, thanks for the react I'm honored! I was on the fence about the logbook, and it's super useful, but ultimately I decided against it. I'd rather the timeline be inaccurate as a showcase to how the books are necessary to the timeline than cheat in a book, you know? Oh man I never even noticed the Mike sprite 🤣 Maybe he got especially tanned that summer lol. I should've substantiated the drinking comment in the video too, i got that from the driving we see during the midnight motorist minigame, if you assume JRs is a bar he could have been kicked out for having too much, and his posture and dialogue in MM seem very intoxicated. I could see the couch person seeing Henry, but I agree whoever it is it ISN'T Michael. Especially if William is drunk and angry, you don't talk to your drunk angry father like that for your own safety. The critique of That Place being the bunker is totally fair, it's hard to say for certain, i should've just given various options. I personally feel that FNAF 2 shows us two different sets of dead children from Foxy Go Go Go and Save Them, and that's actually really interesting with trying to recreate Charlotte's possession with the MCI. Yeah I said Henry out of force of habit lol. The interpretation of someone using the yellow suit is totally valid, it could go either way but in retrospect I think I like your idea better. You know you totally got me on remnant, malleable is the only term used lol my bad. I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT BABY THOUGHT MICHAEL WAS WILLIAM IN SISTER LOCATION!! (That's a great point). That paycheck is actually really funny. To be honest most renders i use are from the wiki so it might not be. I'll have to look into it. You raise a good point on UCN. I think I saw the narratively satisfying conclusion with Michael, and it sort of lead my bias away from the fifth child. That's my bad I'm about halfway through the Fazbear frights books, they're a lot lol. And thank you so much again!

I think Purple guy becomes orange due to kidney failure after he begins to drinky

I think the "William begins to drink" is based on combining the gameplay of Midnight motorist with the "Later that night" 8-bit cutscene - If Orange Guy is William, and Orange Guy was weaving all over the road into oncoming traffic, DUI is the most likely explanation for why he'd do that.

Squawks: discussing the murder of children Music in the back: 💃🕺

In regards to what the spring locks suits do to you, I suspect it's BOTH both skewering AND crushing.

Its funny how we got a very detailed description of a springlock failure very recently

While the sprite shenanigans with the couch person have big implications in the story with who the person is (I agree with you that it may be a Mrs. Afton or Henry), no one talks about how the Freddy bully in fnaf4 has no white pupils in their mask. No one talking about it makes me feel like a crazed fnaf theorist.

So a springlock suit, in suit mode, still contains the entirety of the animatronic endoskeleton. It's just held back against the interior side of the fur with springlocks. To extrapolate, it's safe to assume that springlocks are under high tension. That's why they're so sensitive; they're probably a glorified latch that isn't actually rated for the amount of tension they're under, but weaker springs wouldn't be strong enough to make the pieces of the endoskeleton reengage with each other. And that's sort've the kicker. For the springlock suit to be what it is, the endoskeleton needs to be partially disassembled, or there'd never be space for a person inside. The springlocks failing means the endoskeleton is fully reassembled with you IN THE WAY. I'm not sure what the best descriptor for that kind of death would be, but "crushed" is probably a good one.

Please do a power scaling theory video lol. Seriously curious what the hierarchy of power in FNAF is and what threat William genuinely poses compared to everyone else.

honestly now i want a similar reaction video from you about the ooftroop's Undeniably Canon FNAF Timeline, where you pick apart the details of the timeline like you did in this one.

9:20 FINALLY, oh my gosh. I’ve been waiting forever for literally anyone to mention that it can’t have been springlock failure (at least how we know it to be) because it was in animatronic mode, so the spring locks would’ve been closed/safe anyways.

If you're still in the mood for reaction videos, Windigoon made a great video about the timeline. It is a long watch though

I think the JR's thing is due to phone guy telling the fnaf 1 security guard (i think?) that old employees are still wondering around the place the incident happened, and have to be sent away. When Will gets turned away at JR's, it's believed that scene represents this scene, of William wanting to return to the place of the 1st incident, now revamped to JRs

I like your content so much. Happy to see sensible assumptions that make sence unlike some of mainstream theories. Great work, thank you.

12:55 Its a cool explanation but its very common for restaurant owner to live far way, because of crooks following them back home. Fnaf takes place back when people had kept money in there house.

That first recording failing is a blessing imo even tho it sucks. Id rather ppl go in with a plan than blind react

35:10 I think you can easily make this argument. We can physically see the endoskeletons disappear when William touches the player, and we know this isn't just the minigames being artistic because its the whole premise of FNAF3; Phone Dude couldn't find any real animatronics. Somebody, whether that's William before he died or someone else, has to have taken the robots. The fact that HRY223 calls out this event in particular, to me, makes this 100% the intended story. FNAF2 was just another event

the mci happened the day before my birthday.... uhh i guess i'll avoid any williams for the time being.

Michael could have deferent skin colors because he gets a lot exercise. This would play into the jock archetype. That would also explain why he's also tank top. As there famously good for working out working out. Just thought that was neat theory.

I really love the William stopping to do the voice to make the promise himself theory a lot, actually shows that he loves him

As Rye says, he had a series comping evidence from the games, and then a video piecing it all together before this timeline video, so if you want more information on his evidence, watch those.

I agree on the idea that if you made a game only Timeline/a Timeline focused only on the games, the survival logbook can be included since it's clearly connected to the games with references from all the games when it was released, especially Sister Location (exotic butters and casual bongos anyone).

and will's motivation to kill charlie would be the "revenge", as Henry's animatronics are the ones that killed his kid, in his eyes- so he would "want" to kill Henry's daughter

Honestly I like to think that Michael was somewhat tanned for being outside too much with his friends, unlike the rest of his family. That's why in that moment he had a darker/more orange skin tone It's just a small idea to make sense for a weird thing, I don't consider it a fact

Maybe I've been hearing wrong but I double checked some lines and Mangle also says the one you should not have killed is he, you're still right that it's a rare instance as the other three I can remember aside from Chica just say the one you should not have killed but I thought it was worth saying

3:25 wait FNaF 3?! william literally gets springlocked in a safe room,and we even see screenshots of springtrap with a corpse inside the suit

The timeline is cool, but Michael being tortured by William in the FNAF 4 room is kind of pulled out of nowhere?

I had the same reaction to the Jr's thing. Personally I think it was the fnaf2 location and called Freddy Juniors. Kids Cove, Toy animatronics, etc

26:26 Damn that's my birthday.

A suspect being "charged" and "convicted" are so different, seems kinda important.

Out of curiosity, do we ever have any actual confirmation beyond Security Breach's Princess Quest arcade games that Cassidy is actually a girl? I know the name is usually for girls, but the name itself *is* unisex. From google: "The name Cassidy is both a boy's name and a girl's name of Irish origin meaning "curly-headed". A lean and lanky Irish cowboy name with great nickname potential to boot (Cass or Sid are both options)." And the child image doesn't really lean one way or another. Just saying, could be possible that Cassidy was meant to be a young boy initially? Possibly? And that's why Mangle and Withered Chica use 'he/him' pronouns?

The introduction of “remnant” into the the lore is where things start to go downhill

when the fnaf youtubers react to their reactions of their reactions

I know I'm VERY late to this video, but I wanted to check out more of your content and had something to bring up about souls being present in UCN (please let me know if this is something you've changed thoughts about since this video). The dialogue from Mr. Hippo heavily suggests at the very least he and Orville are actual souls that have been trapped in UCN against their will, specifically "So, you may be asking yourself, how did I go from sitting by the falls drinking lemonade to being wedged in the air duct, not only with Orville, but with an entire assortment of fruity-colored friends? Well, there’s uh, there’s really no good answer to that, but perhaps I met a demise of my own at some point and this is my afterlife or my dream". When he talks about memories with Orville I believe its him remembering stories from his life, just names have been replaced in his mind with the characters he's associated with. I like how it implies Cassidy/Vengeful Spirit isn't only forcing Afton to repeat UCN but several if not all the characters have some spirit (some may even be from random unrelated dead people, having memories and personalities replaced with ones more fitting for their characters) that are unable to escape, it makes Cassidy a more morally grey character who may be overstepping by doing this and causing more pain unintentionally

I like the idea that midnight motorist takes place before fnaf 4 soon after Elizabeth was killed and the pile is Elizabeth’s fresh grave and they ended up moving to the fnaf 4 house either bc of the painful memory of Elizabeth’s death and or bc the crying child keeps escaping to her grave site (I also like thinking midnight motorist takes place at the same house seen on the fnaf 4 title screen)

Phone guy says the animatronics have been singing stupid songs fo 20 years in 1993, this would imply freddy bonnie foxy and chica have been around since 1973

I always took that little laugh Michael does after the line "they thought I was you," as an ironic laugh. If we take the Clara and Vlad Immortal and the restless to be a reference to how the Aftons got started. They had a child out of wedlock (Michael) and William doesn't want to take responsibility as a parent so makes the excuse of 'the baby isn't mine' to get out of it when he and his son look so similar it's obvious they're related. So that line is delivered with a real heaping of irony; you always denied I was your son but even a troop of animatronics thought we were related! So much so they mistook me for you and I got your intended fate. Just my own thoughts 😊

One thing this video taught me is that Scott Cawthon is bad at pronouns.

do you know what im thinking of since matpats theory about the midnight motorist minigame came out? everyone is connection the minigame house to the house from fnaf 4 but NO ONE is talking about that these must be 3 different houses cause the layout of the rooms dont match with anything we see in the fnaf 4 minigames the house is like a small familys house with a living room 2 bedrooms a hall and a weird locked door to the right of the TV room, then in the nights its like an cyrcle with an kids bedroom and a kitche at the right corner and an livingroom at the left corner hall, then in the midnight motorist minigame its like a a big room with an hall connected to it where 3 doors lead to 3 different rooms, theses houses allways look different but somehow everyone sees over it and thinks yep fnaf 4 house

came for a fnaf video, stayed for the banget music

Mangle also says "He's here, and always watching, the one you shouldn't have killed."

Nice reaction vid. Just to pick your brain, the thing about the security puppet being a heavy handed measure: It's function is working the prize corner as well as stopping kids from going outside/bring kids from outside back in. Would you not agree that if it were built for an incident such as the bite in fnaf 4, then its function would be more geared towards preventing something like that?

I thought that William had a different voice while talking brought the fredbear voice too, I’ve been saying it for years but no one thought it make sense! The colors of the sprite text from night 6 also matches mustard man’s colors, another example on how William could be mustard man

4:50 Ultimate theory here. FNAF 4 is in the early summer and Michael is spending most of his time outside. Therefore he tans over the course of the BV memory minigames. Therefore making SL some time not in the summer by his paler sprite (or maybe the scooper did that)

I like thinking midnight motorist was made to concretely show William is an awful abusive father so he wasn’t the one who promised to put the crying child back together maybe?

6:18 I agree that the cause of the Crying Child's fear of the animatronics couldn't have been seeing Charlie's death, but it could have been seeing his friends getting stuffed into the suits. It would explain why he freaks out when he sees an employee being put into the spring lock suit. He thinks they're getting stuffed. Also, when pigtail girl at the park tells him she heard they hide your body and asks why he looks so worried, it's because he actually might have seen that happen. 30:50 I think that unless it was retconned, the yellow suit Phone Guy mentions was actually Golden Freddy because it's the only yellow suit in the game and only becomes active on Night 6 after the second group of children are killed.

I personally think that the one that you shouldn’t have killed is the crying child from fnaf 4. It would be a lot more poetic that the bite victim, the one that started it all is torturing his father because of everything thing he went through. I know that William didn’t kill him directly but he made the springlocks that killed the bite victims.

I liked this timeline up to a certain point before falling off, but it's still well made.

Using both versions of Tidal Tempest. Based.

I've always seen fnaf pizzaria sim as the end of the series and ar, vr and security breach is its own kinda story/reimagining type deal

I feel that the funtimes have to be possessed by the original MCI for 2 reasons. 1 being that it is possible afton injected the remnant from the classics into the funtimes in between him destroying the animatronics and getting springlocked. And 2, we see the gravestone ending in the end of Pizza sim after everything burns down, including Molten Freddy which would have these souls in them. We know Cassidy is part of Golden Freddy which was a part of the MCI, so we can assume the other gravestones are the rest of the kids from the MCI. So if thats the case, why would we see the gravestones of the MCI kids symbolisying them moving on if they weren't even present in pizza sim?

The 223 is most likely the year aka 2023 which means pizza sim is shortly after 3

So, judging by the footprints we can guess there is some sort of animatronic scarecrow, right? So, couldn't the runaway have knocked it down and hid it in the woods as a sort of rebellious act against their father who likely put it there? Or perhaps the scarecrow hid itself out there for some reason. The bunker idea could work but it seems weird that the hatch would be buried and not somehow protected by a shed or even fake rock formation or something. Someone would obviously notice if a spot is being dug up repeatedly to access a hatch. A pretty bad way to hide it in my opinion.

15:25 It's common name was "The Marionette" never sock puppet as far as I am aware from my time of hyperfixation in the fnaf 2-5 era

13:30 he made videos before this explaining the evidence for his claims lol

BUNKER THEORY: Is it possible crying child is somehow being kept in the bunker, so Mike has run off to see him? Okay, hear me out; where is golden freddy this whole time? Golden Freddy is never physically at any location we play the game play portion in. We see him in cutscenes, but he is never around for FNAF1, 2 or any other game. UCN ends with it shown twitching on the ground; unable to move effectively, but clearly possessed to move by something. Was Afton keeping Golden Freddy in the bunker? Bonus round: Is FNAF4 the golden suit placed in the bunker, being put through the "tests" of the nights we play through? Many point out that the map of the house in SL matches the house map in the gameplay sections, but does not match the layout of the house in the mini-game / cut scene sections. Many have wondered if the gameplay section is really a testing facility decorated to look like a house interior. (Personally I still wonder if the midnight motorist is Cassidy's father who is too drunk to recognize his child has been kidnapped via the broken window / mascot foot prints, but that is an entirely different can of worms.)

music is a teeny bit loud, great video though

Ihave a theroy that we may not be looking at because of the community consensus. When steel wool studios came out and said. "Something happens ironicly and that how they become the villian" what if the ironic thing that happens is Elizabeth being the first death. From her blueprint we see the ice cream compartment that can also fit a child. But the design never tells us that it is just assumed. What if the whole thing that happened was a malfunction similar to a spring lock to her suit. She was covered with confetti and smelled like birthday cake so that with making the ice cream overloaded her and the emergency stop activated in her leg and grabbed Elizabeth accidently. And from that evan knew and was scared of the suits since going inside he think people will die in them. Thats why he not afraid of the plusses. And William goes mad from this accident while learning about remnant so as he works on it from the basement he sees his son having the nightmares and tries to scare him to protect him. Then when his son dies he takes it out on his son Michael. At that time he tries to sell it to Henry but Henry dosent buy it so to get him on his side he kills Henry's daughter then goes to comfort Henry to get him to be involved with the plan to bring the kids back at Jr's but is kicked out and goes home to deal with Michael but he runs away . I feel this adds alot of plot to both sides and intertwine both sides to the story more than just one is a serial killer and why evan is so scared

10:39 Charlie died before the crying child because the she's in the plush. we know the text change is because the puppet is speaking because of the symbolism of the Lefty ally screen. Also it was Freddy's so early it was just him and he had the cup cake.

I don't think game Will knew until follow me. Shadow Freddy lead them to the back room and them being lead back there tipped him off.

35:50 Being game only wouldn't imply that the mobile game is being considered here? I think remnant is explained there right?

I thought FNAF 2 took place before FNAF 1. That’s what the whole bite of 87’ shenanigans was about. In fact, I’m really surprised it just wasn’t brought up in the video.

Nice

I think it is arguable whether the all the kids were lured on June 26th. June 26th is just when the camera feed comes from, at which time someone in a mascot suit is seen luring two kids. Now I won't argue that the rest happened within that same week or so, but if we were to say those two were the last, then the other three could have been lured a few days prior with no camera evidence. Little thing to nitpick, I know, but the fact you said it was inarguable just triggered that sense of "But is it, tho?" In me that I think most of us FNAF theorists share and is why we never allow each other to reach conclusions that don't have 100% basis in fact, so I hope you'll forgive me contending that point.

I am confused if we are playing as Micheal in Fnaf 4 which I assumed he was a teenagers at this point, why would he have toys for the crying child’s age? Also it does seam weird how the newspaper says how the children were never found until the animatronics started oozing blood and smelling. at that point they would have found the dead bodies at that point they would know it’s William but the newspaper acts like these 2 are separate events, like they never mentioned that the child’s bodies were ever taken out especially since the skeleton would still be in the suits I personally don’t understand the need for a second missing children’s incident story telling wise I always thought the Funtime animatronics were just haunted by the children they lured to be killed like Elizabeth

HRY223 sounds like something you'd call a robot, what if he possessed the stab bot? Just a random thought.

Doesn't the Pigtail Girl in FNAF 4 say something along the lines as, "You'd better watch out! I hear they come to life at night. And if you die, they hide your body and never tell anyone." Maybe this implies MCI happened before/during FNAF 4 minigames? As well as the Puppet (somehow) possessing the Puppet, talking to C.C. in his final moments?

Gentle reminder Rye uses They/Them pronouns

crying child's death couldn't possibly be due to springlock failure, fredbear was already in animatronic mode so the springlocks weren't engaged. only when being set to suit mode do the springlocks get engaged and dangerous.

Not my favourite. But I really like Chara. The way I see them anyway

26:00 bruh, the goofy music is WAY too distracting

A potentially better way to retcon "save him" would be to have it turn out Charlie was (gonna grow up to be) a trans boy, and paranormal antics meant whoever was saying that (Crying child...?) knew somehow. Mostly because that would really necessitate giving the Puppet more characterisation and by god does this series ever need more characterisation for everybody who isn't William or one of his lackeys. Especially because this would add to the theme of Monologue guy kinda just presuming stuff about others, or that he knows what's best for everybody for that matter. ...Then again not sure if I trust the writer of the fourth closet to handle a topic like that.