IS THIS THE BEST HOME ESPRESSO MACHINE?: What You Didn't Know About The Breville Dual Boiler

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Many people who jump into coffee tend to not give Breville products the time of day, mostly due to two things: 1) their aesthetic and 2) their reputation as a kitchen appliance brand.
While these are valid, they should not detract one from doing one's due diligence in researching every aspect of every machine.
NOTICE- none of this are approved by or endorsed by Breville. Do these mods are your own risk. They could void your warranty.
On top of the incredible features listed in the video, here are some I didn't hit:
a) There is a GS3 mod one can perform if they don't want to lose the hot water spigot. Check the following link: www.home-barista.com/espresso...
b) More about the heat stability- HX line goes through the steam boiler to the brew boiler. The brew boiler itself and the group head heater are all PID controlled. (thanks, @shaysub from EAF)
c) Not a bunch of proprietary parts. Instead, most parts are easily repairable. Check Peter Russel's BDB Mods and Maintenance thread here: www.home-barista.com/espresso...
d) Can add a replacement flow control valve that allows for finer control over flow rate (thanks, @kharmic from EAF)
e) Clippard Valve Guide:
espressoaf.com/manufacturers/...
f) Important to note!- the OPV prevents the pump from getting majorly damaged during blooms, which CAN be done without the kill switch. Simply close the valve after preinfusion.
Here are links to the modifications mentioned:
1) Slayer Mod- www.home-barista.com/espresso...
2) Pump Kill Switch- imgur.com/gallery/hi10nfe
3) Brass Necked Pump and OPV- www.home-barista.com/espresso...
4) Drip Tray Mod- imgur.com/a/nITYT4d
www.home-barista.com/espresso...
5) Vibratory to Rotary- www.home-barista.com/espresso...
ESSENTIALLY, if you have a BDB, the following link should be something of a Bible for you:
www.home-barista.com/espresso...
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FREE Smart Espresso Profiler App referenced:
Google Play- play.google.com/store/apps/de...
Apple Store- apps.apple.com/us/app/smart-e...

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@user-gk1nt6sm2z 2 жыл бұрын

Had mine 10 years, used every day, no drama. Surprisingly good.

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

Pinned this. Thank you

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

NOTICE: As I clearly said in the video, while I am affiliated with Breville by way of teaching classes for them, this video was not expected, sponsored, or even approved by Breville. I strictly teach classes. I've even decided NOT to use an affiliate link for these videos even though I have sold dozens of machines (losing out on lots of money) from my videos. Please do not come in the comments thinking you're sly by pointing out my very willingly admitted connection to Breville. Authenticity is my main staple, my muse, my highest priority. I wore the Breville shirt and made the disclosure to be above reproach. I could've easily kept mum about it, but the fact I'm confident it doesn't sway my opinion, I decided to disclose. I get no payments from any machine sale. I get no money from this endorsement. I simply teach people at home to make better coffee through Williams-Sonoma by way of breville End of story. Thanks for reading and I sincerely hope you all will maintain the trust I've hopefully cultivated with you all. Cheers!

@andyf978 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry to see that this further disclosure was necessary. I thought it was very clear at the start of the video.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it. I've had some calling my word into question and I just don't appreciate it. Thanks for the kind words!

@jonovation8268 3 жыл бұрын

I'm new to coffee making and your videos are the best! I recently bought the BDB and the coffees are just as good if not better than at the local cafes!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah! You should be able to dominate your local cafe quality in no time, especially with a good grinder

@gmald17 3 жыл бұрын

@@LanceHedrick Hello Lance. Thanks for your videos and love your relax presentation. Which grinder would you recommend ? Thanks in advance ! Keep it up !!!

@AdamWardVGP 3 жыл бұрын

Just to add on. I originally purchased my BDB refurbished, and after 9 years I had to send in my machine for repairs. Breville support was great. They gave me two offers since my machine was so old - After some discussion they offered to just send me a new model (they made some changes to the BDB over that time) for what was ~50% off, and reduced the repair quote by about half. The repair ended up that they just shipped me the newest model anyway, and since I ended up with 2 machines I then resold one. Between the discount for the original refurb, and the extra machine that I pawned off, the total cost of my BDB is so small, and is crazy that they'd just do a solid replacement for something that was around for so long.

@ezbacc 2 жыл бұрын

im jealous. the grinder in my 2017 Breville Express went bad, and they want 250$ to do the fix :(

@bbbo85 2 жыл бұрын

@@ezbacc lol that's basically the cost of their smart grinder pro

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

It really is. Odd they're charging that much. I'm curious what the issue is? They're not super hard to navigate

@Nickporter17 Жыл бұрын

@@bbbo85 is that grinder any good?

@jeanpowell981 Жыл бұрын

@@LanceHedrick Does the resolution of issues maybe depend on the luck of the draw on the person who answers your phone call? I haven’t taken mine out of the box yet. I’m watching your videos so I can get a general understanding of the Breville Barista Express machine just received for my birthday.

@Delmar829 Жыл бұрын

Great information. I had the older version of this for around 10 years. It is still in operation w my son. Got the 920 and as you I really like this about 4 yeas now and working good. Thanks for all. God Bless

@inukaka3741 2 жыл бұрын

Just got this 2+ years old BDB 2nd hand 790USD. 1700 shot counts. With PID, pressure control and Slayer mod potential. Totally worth it and love it very much. Thank for the suggestion Lance!!

@DrJum 3 жыл бұрын

I have a BDB w/ niche combo too, it’s a great machine! Would love to see videos of all the mods from you!! I like the sound of making it a quieter machine!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely will consider that! So many videos I want to make 😭 If you haven't, consider joining my patreon to help me make more!

@DamnZodiak Жыл бұрын

I love how this machine seems like an intersection of the espresso and maker community. This seems like an absolute endgame machine, I just wish it would look a bit better. It seems hard to justify spending so much money something I hate looking at, especially if I'll use it every day.

@atticustay1 7 ай бұрын

I think it looks good, even if not as good as some other machines

@JPC326 3 жыл бұрын

Really nice to see this review as I am saving for this machine for almost 1 year. Did not know all the mod :)

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

So many. Just make sure to reference this video for the caption alone. Those links are literal gold

@jackMcRyder 2 жыл бұрын

B “the Infuser” owner here with 7 years and one pump replacement. Glad the brand is getting lots of love and that this upper model is more solid and can be modded. My machine is fine with a good grinder but sadly I can’t control the temp nor the flow so towards the end of the shot the pressure always increases. Cool video, ofc now I’m considering this model, someday 😅

@MrMarki134 2 жыл бұрын

You could modify your infuser for flow control with a pump dimmer.

@m4tth3wh 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video Lance. Really appreciate it. Always wondered about the longevity of these but as you say everyone has different experiences. Having owned various Italian made machines over the last 10 years and had parts on them fail I'm at the point of wanting the features that have been in the BDB for ages. It certainly helps to be able to self repair whatever machine you own but having a community of modders and support around with information is a massive plus. Breville launched the BES900 back in 2011 and some in the coffee forum community said at the time it was too good to be true. Well 10 years later Breville have improved on that base and still have features that outperform other manufacturers. 💪💖

@cleigh8753 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a refurbished bes900xl BDB in early 2015 for around 700.00 Brand new cost was 1299.00, Now brand new is around 1600-1800.00 It came in pristine condition and with even MORE extras and accessories than the norm. I only used it on average of once a day for a year, made a big move from one state to another,.. got really sick, never unpacked it for 5 years. Just recently dug it out, did all the back flushing, ordered more new cleaning tabs and water filters. It is up and running like brand new. It still has years of use ahead. Since then they launched the 920 which gives you the ability to descale the machine on your own, the 900xl doesnt have that. I figured when and if I get to the point of it needing to be sent to manufacture for any repairs, as I have seen from other posts that instead of repairing the old machine and the time and costs, they just send you a replacement of the newer model. I have to say, this BDB IS an AWESOME machine!

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

Love this thread you started. I'm glad you come from Italian made machines, too. I love the looks and quality of them, but just not a fan of the e61 platform. BDB is on another level for the price. Sure, it isn't gorgeous and sure, the materials for the shell aren't stainless steel, but if you, as Pete Russell says, practice preventative maintenance, it'll last a long time!

@jennifermarchlewski1607 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for reviewing this machine. I have wanted to know how it performed as I am looking to set up my own coffee station at home. 😘

@craigm9145 3 жыл бұрын

I love this video! I'd love to see you walk through the mod in another video

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

For sure. I'll definitely consider it! It's really very easy

@willowellevsen9372 2 жыл бұрын

@@LanceHedrick Just bought a dual boiler and use a slayer at the cafe i work at. would love to see a video about how to do the slayer mod!! :)

@OneIdeaTooMany Жыл бұрын

Just got a fairly well used 900 for free and really enjoying fixing it up, descaling, etc. For a consumer product it's really well designed, spare parts are a plenty and there's a good community around it. Comparing that to the 2 group head commercial machine I have where I have to call the manufacturer whenever I need to ask if a spare part exists.. the Breville dual boiler is awesome.

@scent007 3 жыл бұрын

I just love everything about you. the knowledge the attitude the joy of watching you and everything in between.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I appreciate all your comments.

@scent007 3 жыл бұрын

@@LanceHedrick it's so beautiful to see the steaming thick wand with you

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! That's awesome

@cmeliach 2 жыл бұрын

TY so much for this video. I’ve been looking to get back into espresso now that I have more time and despite the size being bigger than I want, I think the modifications you mention might make this my machine. Thanks a bunch!!

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

This machine is awesome. Glad you enjoyed the video!

@richardschaefer315 3 жыл бұрын

Lance, Great vid! I've had my BDB for several years now and I got lucky as my machine is quite capable of flow profiling right out of the box. I understand this is not true with every BDB, but my water valve allows quite a bit of profiling before disabling the group flow. I can go from 9 bar to 3 bar with no mods at all. Again, Great vid. I very much enjoy your channel!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

That rocks! I hadn't heard of that before. Very cool! It's an incredible machine and sadly underrated

@Mythicregard Жыл бұрын

Mine seems to do the same thing. I was wondering why the Slayer mod was even necessary.

@therealghost2178 3 жыл бұрын

Man. Lance, you're hitting it out the park. So natural in front of the camera, super easy to follow, really entertaining - you make a 19 minute video seem too short! I have the UK version - Sage - and I have no remorse whatsoever, it's been such a fantastic machine, especially the quick group head heating, and the cherry on top is pre programmed time for it to wake up and begin heating. Absolutely love it. I'll probably hold off on mods for some time, as the rabbit hole that is espresso is already so deep, but the flow mod is certainly something I'll consider in the near future! Thanks for the amazing content, and keep it up, my dude!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! And know you don't need to mid in order to pull shots in pre infusion mode. Just hold down the shot button! Can do low pressure shots without any mod

@johnsmithington3167 3 жыл бұрын

Where's it made?

@cheekster777 3 жыл бұрын

@@johnsmithington3167 - All Breville® products are designed and engineered in Australia and manufactured and assembled in China, I believe?

@jessejackson4690 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had two breville coffee machines first one I got second hand and it lasted me 10 years. I’ve now got the dual boiler ( replacing a small delonghi) and swear by it. They are a great machine without mods and just so much better afterwards

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed 100%!

@philmeyers9647 3 жыл бұрын

This is my favourite video so far. I think you've already hinted yourself at what you could cover next with the drip coffee from an espresso machine and the super fast shots. I bet breville/sage are delighted with this!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Haha! I hope they are delighted enough to work with me on making these mods on a machine and do a limited Lance run haha!

@GrandStudable 3 жыл бұрын

What? That was 19 minutes? They literally flew by. Such an entertaining video. I'm a huge fan! These reviews are awesome, Lance. Keep em coming!!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Haha! Incredible! Thank you so much for the support

@andersonjr.1817 3 жыл бұрын

Love your videos, great review. I was thinking about upgrading my Gaggia Classic to this one for while.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

I'd recommend 100%

@TheRonniesoup 3 жыл бұрын

The Breville Dual Boiler is on my wish list. Very informative video. Thanks.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Glad you have it on your list haha!

@1257mp 3 жыл бұрын

Love the vids! I learn so much about making coffee through them!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic! Thank you so much for watching

@DanJHayes 3 жыл бұрын

I've had the DB for a year and I love it - will definitely consider some mods when it's out of warranty. I was lucky to get it half-price in the UK so bought a Niche Zero too.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Oh nice! Good combo there lol

@topjets5616 2 жыл бұрын

I just watch this video again and I think it is one of the best video's on the Dual Boiler, so much great info :)

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! More to come on the BDB in the future...

@hodgesmt 3 жыл бұрын

I have never had a Breville, but if I were starting my coffee journey over again with limited funds I would go this route. I can't wait to see you do some Decent Espresso videos... Keep up the amazing videos. Even tho I don't have a Breville, or plan on getting one, your style and delivery of material makes me watch anyway. Don't change a thing.

@Gk2003m 2 жыл бұрын

Between this unit and a decent grinder, you’re looking at $2000. Dunno about you, but for the average homeowner that’s a serious chunk of change. You can get a used car for that kinda money. “Limited funds” IMO puts you under $300 for an espresso machine…. and frankly, with a little care in your choice and a bit of homework, you can pull good shots from a lot of those inexpensive thermoblock devices.

@1337Superfly 3 жыл бұрын

I loved this! Best informative video on my machine I have seen on KZfaq. Instant bookmark, and a like and sub👌

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@fortheloveofbikes 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lance, after watching your review I ordered BDB, currently I am using a Lelit Kate. Matching it with Baratza 270. ✌️

@crispyfrank Жыл бұрын

Lance, so glad I found your channel. I’m on my second Breville infuser and have really liked them. 7 years for first, 2 years for second. I’m thinking some day of upgrading and want to learn how to control flow rate, temp, etc but am too scared of making any modifications.

@magalimasson9472 8 ай бұрын

Aghh I'm on the same boat my first infuser is pretty much dead now after 7years. Agonizing on what to do now , just rebuying the same or changing, wish I could upgrade. 🥲😂

@giodc8599 3 жыл бұрын

I got a BDB too, 920 XL, paired with a Baratza 270WI. What a great combo. The Breville is an impressive machine for the price, very serviceable and moddable. Great review, my friend :)

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Appreciate the time you took to write a comment! Cheers

@vex123 2 жыл бұрын

Lance, thank you so much for sharing your experience! These E61 grouphead espresso machines are getting all the craze these days but really, they're considerably much more expensive and less functional than the Breville dual boiler. An equivalent dual boiler, PID and flow control machine would cost atleast 3000$!

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

I know! It's insane. People complain about longevity on breville, but at half the cost, you can make any fix necessary and still come out way on top and finance a much nicer grinder haha!

@erharddinges8855 Жыл бұрын

Got information that it is difficult to get spare parts in Europe,especially electronics.

@grahamXphillips 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Lance: first of all congrats on the entire channel which is excellent. I, too, have a Sage(Breville)Dual Boiler having started with a Barista Express. I totally agree the BDB is THE most under-rated machine. Even in standard form its a performance bargain. Someone needs to champion this machine and who better than you? Yes please work your way thru all the mods, in detail, one by one - and show us how to get the best from each. Its noteworthy that both James Hoffman and John Buckman also highly rate this machine. Thanks and please keep doing what you're doing! Graham

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Graham! Yes- I know John and James both enjoy it- particularly the former. I know James has some issues with it, but overall enjoys it. I'm a huge fan, although I know lifespan has been an issue for some. Anyway, I'll certainly champion it as a budget "end game" when concerning quality and adaptability. Thanks for the kind words!

@topjets5616 2 жыл бұрын

Second time I've watch this video, loved it :) I think it was serval articles I've read lately about the BDB that brought me back, it looks to be a great value for what you get, the easy controls and all the mod's that are available, nice :)

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the support and interest! It is definitely an awesome machine.

@vex123 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for more mods! Imagine a 3d printed servo motor / bracket mounted onto the valve knob where people can share temperature and flow profiles and upload it to their brevilles for kicks :)

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

Oh absolutely. I'm sure people are already doing it lol

@jasonvespa7452 3 жыл бұрын

I've had the BDB and Niche combo for almost a year now. Heard of the Slayer mod before but I'm still struggling with other aspects of espresso making so want to master that before moving on. I especially like the idea that you can install a rotary pump too! Keep up the good work!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Nail down basics before moving to flow control. I will do vids on it tho! Hopefully that'll help catalyze the mastery!

@wtortoriello 2 жыл бұрын

I just got my BDB, and out of the box the hot water knob on the side doesn't seem to rotate/turn in either direction, and I don't want to "force it"...am I missing something?

@jasonvespa7452 2 жыл бұрын

@@wtortoriello That's a bummer. I can't recall having to do anything special with it .. it should just rotate freely out of the box. Not sure if opening up the machine to fix it yourself would void any warranty if you're inclined to try and fix it yourself. Might be best to let the vendor know about it - they should accept a return/swap.

@codyrogers3876 3 жыл бұрын

I for one love our new algorithm overlords Great video as always!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Haha! Thank you so much!

@nathanjames9572 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing all this information. I have enjoyed soaking up your wisdom and I have learned a ton. My big question is when do you think they will do another refresh on the BDB? I don’t want to buy too soon and then they switch things up on me.

@lloydthompson6867 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your in depth review. We bought our BES860XL from Williams & Sonoma in September 2009. It's still working after all these years with some work-arounds [the grind quantity is no longer reliable, and there is some corrosion on the base at the rear]. We'll invest in a new Breville Double Boiler in the next few weeks.

@pcrussell50 2 жыл бұрын

Superb summary, Lance! Bravo! Another cool thing about it, that admittedly does not make better espresso however, is the stainless steel boilers and solid stainless portafilter, as compared to copper and brass, which are soft and and easier to work, but more reactive. It's a nerdy detail but some of us are nerds ;) In fairness I should say that I am not bothered by copper and brass espresso machines... In fact I have three of them (in addition to my BDB). Just that I think stainless is cool.

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Peter! Thanks for adding that. Also, at some point in eaf, I need to shoot you an exciting update...

@sergn717 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video, great storytelling :) I've been looking around and really not finding a single other machine that would offer similar functionality at this price range. Would you say Rancilio Silvia Pro X has similar value to the BDB now that it also offers programmable pre-infusion, auto on etc?

@shukriemmett 2 жыл бұрын

because of this video, I bought BDB last week. haha. thanks Lance. I learn alot from you.

@Tastewithnewdrinks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience 🥰.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Thanks for watching

@declanburke6579 3 жыл бұрын

Great video - wasn’t aware the Breville (or Sage as it is here) was this easy to mod!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Super easy. Especially the slayer mod. Check links in profile!

@robertjason6885 Жыл бұрын

Excellent. Anyone that questions your integrity has obviously no knowledge of the legit coffee community. You deserve your positive reputation.

@CaptLatte 2 жыл бұрын

I love my Breville DB, however, it cannot be stressed enough about the maintenance issues. If you are a DIY type of person, then the link Lance indicated is quite valuable and you will almost certainly encounter many of these issues within a year or two (which is unfortunate). However, some of the replacement tasks are quite hard to do and require quite a bit of dexterity with the tiny parts. The other issue regarding maintenance is that most espresso machine repair places won't touch Brevilles. I live in Seattle, which is a coffee mecca town with lots of cafes as well as espresso repair places. There is only one place (Seattle Coffee Gear) I'm aware of that touches Brevilles and they're not cheap. You can certainly send in your machine to Breville but that will be costly as well. Anyways, I love my DB and just hope it survives until something equivalent with better durability and maintenance simplicity comes along.

@wtortoriello 2 жыл бұрын

Hey there, I just got my BDB, and out of the box, the hot water knob on the side of the machine does not rotate/turn in either direction, and I'm afraid to "force it" since I don't want to break it...any thoughts?

@robertjason6885 Жыл бұрын

I’ve had mine over 2 years. With a few mods like flow profiling, it can make excellent coffee… consistently.

@AzuritSK 3 жыл бұрын

Love my BDB. It allows me to do all I want and some more. It'll take me a long time till I'll outgrow this machine. It's that amazing! @Lance: Thanks for the video and Slayer shot demo!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! So many more ways of pulling shots, though! You'll have some fun

@4KTV87 3 жыл бұрын

Had my dual boiler for 3 years and it never skipped a beat. Upgraded it this year to a decent espresso machine. The decent was the only machine I was prepared to replace my dual boiler with.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I have a decent as well and it is the only thing I would've upgraded to

@TampedOnSquid 3 жыл бұрын

I think the decent is highway robbery imo. I’m looking to Bianca next 🥰

@marc-andrelanglais9506 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for this video Lance. I believe the BDB is a great machine, not only is it really affordable but as a starting barista it can last one a looooong time. I personally have a machine that cost few multiples of this machine that can’t do all of its features. Yes, it is not the sexiest, yes it is made of plastic, but look at the specs, no discussion there.

@Bostonirific 3 жыл бұрын

Love the content! I would love to hear your thoughts on ratios vs flow profiling. I have always been using ratios and timing. I wasn’t going to use any mods on my dual boiler since I don’t want to void the warranty.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Tbh, you could change it back and no one would ever know. It's seriously the easiest mod that is fully reversible. And I prefer flow profile

@marccunningham3302 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Lance, i was wondering if you were going to explore/ explain more in depth the flow profiling aspects of this and other machines. what your looking for and what not. I recently upgraded from a Gaggia classic pro to a BDB and I'm very interested in the flow profiling. Love the video's, my favorite channel for espresso so far. Keep up the great content.

@tonygibbons5 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Marc. I'm considering that same Gaggia Classic to BDB upgrade. How have you found it?

@denisejohnson2851 Жыл бұрын

I am new to all this espresso stuff, but it fascinates me now that I have been searching for espresso machines. I’m thinking a pout getting the Gaggia Classic Pro (Prestige), Since the BDB looks like too much to learn on and don’t know if I should spend this kind of money when I know nothing much as of yet about making espresso. Can you tell me if spending the money on a Gaggia Classic Pro to start would a wise choice, or should I just splurge out of the gate and get the DBD which is the one I really want, but spending an additional $1000 (once I add a good grinder) would be advantageous at this beginners stage ?

@riffmeisterkl 3 жыл бұрын

If there’s a flow meter hooked up to a PID controller which controls the needle valve, it will work the same. But you will need a small actuator to control the needle valve.

@andrewstout9579 2 жыл бұрын

I love your videos! I recently purchased a BDB and my machine never goes above 3 bars during extraction. Do you think this is most likely related to needing a better grinder? I'm dosing at 19g and definitely tamping hard enough with a fine grind (have tried various grind sizes.) I have a Niche Zero on the way, but I've been using a $100 OXO Conical Burr grinder in the interim.

@cm2687 2 жыл бұрын

You just convinced me to pull the trigger on an open box BDB for $699 after taxes and shipping! I'll be pairing it with a eureka mingion specialita grinder. I really love the traditional italian style e61 machines but I feel like this will be a great first setup and hard to beat for the price ($1400 all in).

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

Oh heck yeah! Fantaatic. And the temp stability on this far outweighs e61. You'll love it

@itaymeiri5745 3 жыл бұрын

Another 🔥 from ma boi shmendrick Been sitting on the fence with this machine for a long time because I don't think you can find this feature set anywhere near this price (especially in Israel, while this one can be imported easily from amazon). The only thing I think is keeping it from being an endgame machine is the vibration pump, you can really see the difference with a naked portafilter. Also I dont understand why they are not embracing these mods as automated features with thier smart electronics, it would cost them almost nothing and they are really not afraid to innovate so 🤷🏻‍♂️ Anyway, keep killing it! Really happy to see you grow

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have listed how to change to a rotary pump in the caption. Worthwhile mod. And I'm trying my hardest to get them to embrace some!

@JoshuaGeow 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly won't be surprised if you hit 100k subs in the next 2 months or less. Great video Lance, really enjoying your content !

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

I'd cry if that happened haha! I had good growth to begin but it has slowed aggressively. All good, though! Here to help first and foremost. Glad you're enjoying

@JoshuaGeow 3 жыл бұрын

@@LanceHedrick it'll grow! Don't pay too much attention to it and keep doing whats comfortable for you. I really enjoy your videos!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that! And will do.

@JoshuaGeow 2 ай бұрын

@@LanceHedrick came back to this video as I want to replace my flair 58. You're at 255k subs now, I'm really happy for you! Keep em videos coming!

@francisparenteau6108 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you! I currently have the Breville Infuser and have been saving for a double boiler. I was looking at e61 machines but your comment about saturated groups being more stable is making me reconsider my position. Would love to hear more about the benefits of saturated groups and maybe see a comparison versus e61 in a future video!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Sure! Also, check the link in the caption and the further explication there!

@PatrickJoannisse 3 жыл бұрын

Breville is so approachable. My first espresso machine was a Barista Express with the integrated grinder and until you lived with a machine it's often hard to understand why some features matter. I hestiated hard between the Breville Dual Boiler and a Profitec and only landed on the latter because the accessories are not as easy to find online (outside the US) and I had the budget for it. Yes the Dual boiler is technically a 58mm group head but you can't just purchase any cool looking 58mm portafilter for it. But just for the fact you can do your own descaling at home, front access to the reservoir (we don't all have a beautiful kitchen), it's a great GREAT machine. Endgame is a strong word because once you get into the rabbit hole, like you said the Decent becomes an option, but for the majority of people this will be the best machine they ever had.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

I say end game with the caveat of budget end game. It can out perform machines 3 times it's price regarding flow control, heat stability, and pressure accuracy due to the location of the reading. It's just a freaking beast. Put in the kill switch and you have a JV Decent

@media1981 3 жыл бұрын

Wow that drip tray mod is absolutely mind blowing! Breville should take a note and make that part removable so those who have Acaia scale can utilize it. (Unless they make a built in scale version next)

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

I'm trying my best to help them realize the gold they have lol

@trevorscheer8498 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome content as always! Where did you get those mugs from?

@AlsRides 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the video even though I have another machine(a Lelit MaraX). Slightly offtopic question: what espresso cup were you using when you were pulling the shot? It's very cute!

@Fatboypool 3 жыл бұрын

Great machine! Best value dollar for dollar. I have lots of friends with them. Nice video Lance!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agreed! Hope you're well, Eric. I was just in LA and kept trying to make time to drive up to woodland, but couldn't carve out the time for that long drive since I was mainly in the long beach area. Next time!

@Fatboypool 3 жыл бұрын

@@LanceHedrick 110% when there’s time I’ll be here. Will be good fun. Looking forward to it! Safe travels.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah! Cheers, friend

@leafyleafyleaf 2 жыл бұрын

This video has me second guessing. After owning a BDB for 8 years (and having replaced gaskets, the solenoid, and having done the brass OPV mod) the steam wand started leaking and then the boiler stopped working due to thermocouple corrosion. I tried fixing it but accessibility to the boiler is major surgery. I threw in the towel, called it a good run, and am getting an Italian E61 PID Heat Exchanger. But maybe I should stick with the BDB for all its cool features. Damn you Lance for having me second guess myself! Great videos by the way 👍.

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Thank you! If you haven't yet, check out the resources in the caption! Lots of incredible ones for the bdb community.

@sohailhines 8 ай бұрын

Easily the most technical and informative videos (I've seen several on your channel). One machine I had hoped you had already reviewed is the Slayer Single Group. I would very much like to know your opinion of that machine, thanks!!

@nakulgandhi95 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks. I was hoping to get your advice. I am in between this and the Lelit Bianca. I like the looks of the Bianca a lot and seems solid. Also has flow profiling out of the box with a nice wood paddle. Price diff is $1000. I do like the quicker heat up time with Breville though and has some more settings to play around with. What would you recommend? I have a Niche on the way as well btw.

@k.mustafa5455 Жыл бұрын

Interested to hear what you went with! These are two machines I’m considering as well, though leaning toward the BDB because of price.

@elliotthorp3512 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Lance, I was wondering about d) in the description. I can't find any more info about this and would love the opportunity to get finer control when using the slayer mod. Is there any chance you could point me in the right direction? Love the video - it led me to finally take the plunge and get a BDB!!

@MorganWhaley 3 жыл бұрын

Wow great video & wealth of information, Lance! You didn't mention too much about the steaming capabilities. On point as well?

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Oh for sure. My thoughts on steaming is simple- if it is a wand, it will make good foam haha! But yeah- it does super well

@MorganWhaley 3 жыл бұрын

@@LanceHedrick yeah I just want it to steam _faster_ than my BB express.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes. Much much faster

@Gk2003m Жыл бұрын

3:40: not only does higher flow rate at the end potentially induce channeling, but it also amplifies the bitters. Whereas with flow control, you can gradually back off the flow (pressure will fall) as the shot progresses. Then simply end the shot when you start seeing ‘blonding’.

@eleniceshiferaw1632 2 жыл бұрын

Just purchased this based on your review, wish me luck!!!!

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

No luck needed! Incredible machine. Make sure to use those links in the caption and immerse yourself in the online BDB community. Quite a cultish following. And don't descale! You'll read all this at those links. Use good water.

@danyelapril 3 жыл бұрын

Hello! Love you videos! I used to have the breville batista pro (870) I believe. Your videos really helped me to dial in my milk frothing. Before finding your videos I'd been scoping out the breville oracle. My husband purchased me the oracle for mother's day. I'm really struggling with dialing in my milk frothing with the fat wand with the 4 holes. Do you have any experience with these machines or a potential mod? People say the 4 hole is better but I miss my old one hole wand that I was getting comfortable with! Thanks for all you do!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! Yes I have lots of experience. To go to manual mode, just leave the wand fully pulled out. Be really gentle with your stretches. All of my steaming advice should transition fine to if!

@wytties3399 3 ай бұрын

just got a secondhand one and after first test day i love it so far

@infoSchoof Жыл бұрын

Lol you’re sarcastic but funny. Thanks for the review. It’s nice to hear someone support breville. Which was my 1st and 2nd machines “cheaper pressurized” types. Now I am ready to move up to a better machine and considering the Breville infuser vs duo dual vs rancillo Silvia vs solis perfetta. Would love to see those head to head. Always a question of how manual I want and counter size unfortunately.

@edwinlee6897 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Lance, I like your video. What's the your dual boiler temperature setting for the steam wand in advanced menu? Thanks.

@jamesexline689 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Good enough to make me stop and consider this machine. While it's certainly not apples to apples - HX vs DB, I had my mind made up to purchase an Izzo Vivi PID until I saw this video. Any thoughts on the Izzo vs the BDB? Or just on the Izzo? Thx!

@bengriffin5146 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Lance! A great video! I'm cross shopping the BDB and potentially a DB E61(and retrofit a flow control kit kinda like the Lelit Bianca). I'd love to exploit the capabilities of flow profiling to get more out of light roast coffee. I also enjoy a nicely textured milk drink with good microfoam. Currently I use a Breville Infuser and one of the gripe I have is the weak steam. Do you enjoy steaming on the DBD? Thanks!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Dbd steams perfectly.

@mrjeremywayne 2 жыл бұрын

Love the straightforwardness. Thoughts on this Dual Boiler vs the Profitec 500? Thanks 👊🏼

@LanceHedrick 2 жыл бұрын

I have not used the latter do I can't really comment! Sorry!

@happycamper2220 3 жыл бұрын

good job! looking forward to more...

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! The support means the world

@stevenyu5680 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Lance, love you videos! Just wondering if you'd recommend BSB over simonelli Oscar 2?

@guitarfreak1711 3 жыл бұрын

hey lance. I have a machine that doesnt allow flow control but I got the app you suggest and started tracking my shots. My flow rate typically gets up to 2.0 g/s at the end of my shots. I am curious if you think this is too much.

@damienhick1647 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I have just purchased the DB based on your previous videos. Did the package with pro grinder due to budget. Would be awesome if you were able to do more videos on that combo - as I assume a lot of people have both. Finding good videos on how to dial both in and synchronize them has been difficult. Also I drink Lungos so haven’t been able to work out the right grind to flow balance yet - I assume the grind will be coarser…..anyway, enjoying all your videos. Some more on newbie DB and possible Pro grinder would be awesome. Thanks

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! And yes- coarser grind setting, for sure.

@damienhick1647 3 жыл бұрын

@@LanceHedrick awesome. I am having a great time exploring this machine and learning more. Keep up the good work. All the best.

@fortheloveofbikes 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Lance, nice review, I am planing to buy a dual boiler and a grinder. Is Breville DB as good as the more expensive espresso machines? What grinder matches with it? Thanks.

@louismurphy1403 Жыл бұрын

Another great video, thanks Lance. What were the scales you were using please? I couldn't quite hear the name you said.

@richterstitcher7936 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Lance

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Lynda!

@hanzohcafe. 3 жыл бұрын

Woohoo Awesome Input on BDB! The only thing that stopped me from getting the BDB was that I couldn't find a black one. ☕Cheers!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Haha! Yeah. Black rocks. But I'm sure it'd be easy to powder coat!

@rvboyett 2 жыл бұрын

My BDB started leaking and was tripping the GFCI. It’s well out of warranty so I decided to upgrade to a more prosumer machine. However, after seeing this, I’m going to fix it and put it back to work.

@mikeballmball 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, definitely seems like a great machine! I’ve considered recommending the Bambino + to coworkers and family in the sub $1000 Canadian category. Can’t beat Breville in the price range!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Sub $1000, if going breville, should be the Pro, for sure! Bambino does well sub $500!

@josephteifer9714 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I've been looking to upgrade from my Breville Barista Express because I would like more control over my shot. Machines like the Profitec 600 are in the $2,500+ range. I am vey handy and your video has me thinking. I recently upgraded my grinder to a Eureka Oro Mignon XL. Any thoughts?

@joelraivid5581 2 жыл бұрын

Just bought one, looking forward to potentially modding lol. Not sure if I should return though, there’s a weird burning plastic/metallic smell/taste coming from the steam wand. Is this normal for a new machine or I should send back for a replacement?

@Arg3ntis 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for curing my upgraditis! BDB owner and I do love using it on the daily. Decent is the dream machine but so far out of budget currently. I have been super intrigued by the slayer mod, would love to do it when the warranty runs out

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Do it! And check out all the links in the caption.

@asselinpower 3 жыл бұрын

Same for me , I m eying a Lamarzocco but I can t believe it costs the price of 5 machines like this 😂. I ll keep my dual boiler.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Lol the LM is great, and definitely built like a tank, but isn't gonna pull much better, if any better, shots than the BDB

@SevdalijaDamir 2 жыл бұрын

I may have made the mentioned comment about using my Breville espresso machine for eight years. It is still in a new condition, with only double basket needing to be replaced once (no gasket replacement needed to be done yet after all thousands of shots the machine has made). In fact I still own and use every Breville appliance I ever purchased in the past 20 or so years! It is likely that Breville machines have much less embedded energy than full-on steel E61 machines. This is something to consider seriously. Do they look as cool as some expensive Italian ones? Probably not. But if the quality of coffee they produce is the measure to go by, the sheer amount of control and mod-ability for an even greater amount of control make Breville espresso machines a very smart purchase, indeed. To close this comment, I'll just say to espresso newbies, and relative espresso newbies - listen to Lance. With his credentials and the clearly demonstrated enormous breadth of knowledge related to making exceptional espresso, if he says that Breville Double Boiler is an amazing espresso machine, then it most certainly is. Pocket the cash you would have spent on a La Marzocco and use it to buy some excellent beans to feed your BDB over the next 10 years or so.

@vires-et-honore 3 жыл бұрын

We ordered the BDB earlier this month. Unfortunately, it was DOA. Called Breville support... power it off, unplug it, wait a minute, plug it back in, power it on again. Nothing. Returned it to the local retail store. After intense cross examination by the store manager, he agreed to process the return. The experience caused me to question Breville and the appliance approach to espresso. I'll continue with our cheap Capresso for now and upgrade to something better down the road.

@louispeake4518 3 жыл бұрын

Just voided my warranty because of this video, you wonderful man.

@Sammy-jv7qn 3 жыл бұрын

From experience with Breville customer service, they don't give a shit.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Haha! The slayer mod is completely reversible. Wouldn't even be able to tell you'd opened the machine if you put it back lol

@louispeake4518 3 жыл бұрын

@@LanceHedrick yes but I would know, Lance. *I WOULD KNOW*

@henrytung9324 3 жыл бұрын

We'll all turn a blind eye to your comment

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Haha!

@Spartan9567 Жыл бұрын

I've had two of these second hand and both have lasted over 5 years with no issues. Just did the slayer mod as well, jesus I can't believe people pay 10 x the amount for a machine that can flow profile. This thing is awesome for what you pay.

@asselinpower 3 жыл бұрын

I have this machine. After 8 months of 2-4 shots a day, the steam boiler started leaking steam. I contacted Breville, they sent me pre paid label to ship them the machine. I lost the machine about 2 weeks and got it back working perfect with absolutely no charge. I m very happy with the purchase. Thinking about the mods …. Maybe I ll try the Slayer one even though I have doubts about the taste of a 50 sec shot .

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Oh you haven't tasted espresso until you hit them 50sec shots! Lol

@bengriffin5146 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely don’t knock it before you’ve tried it. Although it mostly works on Nordic style roast

@danlarwood4068 3 жыл бұрын

👌 video! I have the DB and love it! Don't think with all the automation and variable controls that I would ever want another machine (but for looks!). I set mine to auto start 30 minutes before I get up. Machine is hot but so is the portafilter by that time. Like hot, hot! A vid talking through the Slayer mod your style would be great, so yes please to that! Noticed the Niche. Does that mean the Kopi has gone? Which would you choose choose to keep for this set up if you had only one?

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Had to send Kopi back because it was their only one. So, they needed it to make improvements. And it depends on if you're wanting flats or conicals.

@draakgame 3 жыл бұрын

Have to say I’ve been debating on buying this machine, an e61, or a la pavoni lever machine. This one is more appealing to me because of its aesthetics but now that i know it’s also got good internals and you can mod it to be even better. Probably gonna pick me up one.

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely read about the mods and maintenance in caption beforehand. they can last a while, but you've gotta do preventative maintenance, for sure.

@Iceman-xe7jo 2 жыл бұрын

Lance, I have a discount from Breville for a new machine. I was considering on going more high end or just going with a Gaggia classic pro. Too many decisions. In your experience is this machine worth the money or the ones I mentioned? Thanks

@parisien89 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Lance, would there be a single boiler version of this Breville that would still have the ability to flow profile but at a price closer to that of a Gaggia Classic ?

@garethmeredith6716 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Lance!

@LanceHedrick 3 жыл бұрын

Thank YOU, Gareth!

@guidog3068 2 жыл бұрын

All my shots start after the pre infusion ramp at 9.5 bar. With the blind disc in for back flushing/cleaning cycle it’s flowing at 9.5 bar. The Hoffmeister complained about machines set up with the OPV not adjusted correctly out the box, including the BDB. Should I adjust my OPV down to 9 bar with the blind disc in???