Pretty much the perfect box for budget itx builds. There's always that ITX tax with cases, power supplies, motherboards, so it's hard to do a budget build, but i'm happy that asrock is tackling that issue
@ghosttheoremproductions54692 жыл бұрын
A great deal for someone looking for a compact VM server. Though, I'd opt for the AM4 version.
@HiltonT692 жыл бұрын
NVME Gen3 only on that unit tho...
@rlifeh2 жыл бұрын
I think there are AMD version
@JamesMyatt12 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, the Intel iGPU is better for applications like plex, jellyfin and frigate. Might be wrong though.
@RyanThePleb2 жыл бұрын
Bry Bry I appreciate that ASRock sent this one over to you, it's a cute little system. Just want to throw in, the nr200p can be had for as little as $60aud new and even less used, is not much bigger, but can take any components at all. Great value for those wanting to go small
@RyanThePleb2 жыл бұрын
Nr200 sorry. The p one runs you a little extra and isn't really worth it imo
@angliaSStore2 жыл бұрын
In fairness (Although amazing) the nr200 is actually quite a lot bigger (18 liters compared to 8).....sg05 however is pretty much same layout and size but much better support for components and passable airflow, should be able to pick one up for next to nothing (£40 new in uk), add a decent sfx psu and a b660 itx motherboard for very similar money
@LucaDigioia832 жыл бұрын
I just got a NR200P colored and new for about 70€ shipped on eBay :)
@angliaSStore2 жыл бұрын
@@LucaDigioia83 bout what I paid for mine (£56) and got to admit it's by far the best case I've ever built in it's just so flexible and well thought out. Lol you could even fit the non standard motherboard from the Deskmeat in it if you used the front psu mounting position!
@techyescity2 жыл бұрын
My favourite mitx is the ali case with the handle, it's actually my main right now! Used it in this build here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ptennc6FksXTkp8.html and after months of going with it, can highly recommend it.
@tetox4502 жыл бұрын
pretty slick for small builds, the only downside its the tight cpu cooler clearance for the cpu cooler. thanks for sharing this piece of hardware brian!
@DataDrifterOFC2 жыл бұрын
Can you also make a review on the MEAT-version, I heard it can fit a much beefier setup on medium without frying it completely? When you get to the bone the build is well done, could go with a better grill at the front but I wouldn't skewer Silverstone for trying to go lean.
@Xaltar_2 жыл бұрын
Solid review Brian, thanks. Definitely something I will be looking at for my next media system build.
@reto2 жыл бұрын
Nice overview! I think the unique factor is that you get 4 RAM slots in a very small form factor; would love to see 10Gbe on the unit.
@13thzephyr2 жыл бұрын
The 4 slots is good but it's dual-channel only so not that much benefit. A 2x16GB kit will be about the same price anyway with a 4x8GB kit.
@simply3072 жыл бұрын
@@13thzephyr 2x16 is usually cheaper since it requires less material
@budgetking25912 жыл бұрын
what is 10Gbe
@budgetking25912 жыл бұрын
@@13thzephyr the benefit ios that you can get 2x8gb now and if needed you can add 2x8 later, most people won't be needing 32GB now.
@13thzephyr2 жыл бұрын
@@budgetking2591 10GB ethernet
@DuneRunnerEnterprises2 жыл бұрын
Oh, Bryan - there's a helf-height fans (120mm), for example. That you probably COULD stick in under the GPU.
@techyescity2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was looking into them, would really like to get a tiny blade fan in my current itx rig.
@DuneRunnerEnterprises2 жыл бұрын
@@techyescity It's the usual -like 120 mm fan,but the height is only 5-8 mm .
@Demon09-_- Жыл бұрын
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises they have ones that are 5-8mm??? I have seen 15mm ones as standard is 25mm but never a 120mm thats 5-8
@DuneRunnerEnterprises Жыл бұрын
@@Demon09-_- nope,not that thin.
@EpicTyphlosionTV2 жыл бұрын
Next step is to cover those Larkbox/Nuxbox micro PCs that are even cheaper
@jmcl99s2 жыл бұрын
nice review on the product! Hope have that kind of PC mini itx build! More power to you!
@abhinavjayswal85242 жыл бұрын
Can you please create a budget (>$500) small form factor PC for like general and gaming use? Please!!
@Demon09-_- Жыл бұрын
deskmeet(203$),12100f(99$),1660 super (used 100-150$) 1tb m.2 nvme or sata (50$), some cheap ddr4 3200mhz 2x8 gb ram(36$),cheap windows key if you don't already have an oem key laying around to re use. this will run you right at 500 bucks. You may be able to squeez in a deal on a 2060 just be warned many are to long you would need one like the evga ko model or a small single fan oem one. This is based on current usa pricing if you still have not built anything.
@raymondbaring8470Ай бұрын
Would love to see anyone making a video, treating it as an ultimate build like put a low profile SFX PSU, better cooling for CPU, etc.!
@frankstared2 жыл бұрын
Bry, love that set. So chill and subdued.
@badhusband19022 жыл бұрын
It really should have a 1u psu instead of an atx psu. That way it can fit 1-2 3.5' hdd to become a nas/htpc/stream machine hybrid instead of this.
@Jsteeeez2 жыл бұрын
And have it sound like a jet engine?
@markfogle24912 жыл бұрын
I believe it can fit 1 3.5 hdd behind the power supply and a second if you forego a graphics card.
@maximumdt50842 жыл бұрын
Kind of wonder how it would work if the PSU was just pulling air from outside the case versus overtop the CPU and then having a 3D printed vent feeding into and then out from the CPU cooler out the back separating air flows for the CPU and PSU.
@dillonthomas86892 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing us this, if you see any similar deals let us know!
@kingkosher62312 жыл бұрын
gonna grab this cause I won an i3 12100 in a raffle and I have a spare 970 so this will be my guest PC
@shiftctrlhack2 жыл бұрын
It’s a waste of money. Your better off doing your own build.
@shiftctrlhack2 жыл бұрын
If you can find a deal maybe but not for the retail price.
@kingkosher62312 жыл бұрын
@@shiftctrlhack it's about the easiness of throwing this build together, it is 3/4 parts tops lol super easy
@kingkosher62312 жыл бұрын
@@shiftctrlhack i don't mind paying a slight markup on all the parts to get them all at once, conveniently and they're available. I think these little boxes will be popular with E-Cafe's centered around gaming
@daveyvasquez89162 жыл бұрын
funny how it went from overclocking to unervolting haha, i find it interesting
@alanmoore782 жыл бұрын
This looks hella legit. 206mm sounds really short, but there are many 1650-1660-2060-3050-3060 even 3060ti cards that will fit. RX5600 XT and RX6600 and RX6600 XT are also found in 206mm or less sizes. Many single fan models but some are dual fan like the EVGA XC Gaming series, ASUS Dual Mini, and PowerColor Fighter and that counts for both nVidia and AMD cards. But nevertheless, I'm thinking that poor RX6400 choked off on 4 PCIe lanes needs to get swapped for a nice...anything BUT that...
@joelconolly55742 жыл бұрын
Maybe should've gone with a Ryzen 7 5700G config. The APU is at least strong enough to game but more than enough to handle major task. But I appreciate that overall thing as it is now.
@MarcoGPUtuber2 жыл бұрын
I love Tech YYYYYYYYYYYES City Style!
@TheFinalRevelation22 жыл бұрын
This is at best an office/corporate PC
@kalark2 жыл бұрын
cool barebones but yeah I agree that it's wild that they didn't include at least one low profile fan somewhere in the chassis
@yearofthegarden9 ай бұрын
I was almost about to pull the trigger on this for $180, but it is so limited in its capacity, its essentially a large mini pc, except instead of an Apu that you cannot upgrade, youre essentially limited to rtx 3060 so long as you keep this case. I instead got a b550 itx, sfx psu and asus 1fan 3060 12gb. Will be making my own case out of aluminum baking pans
@skromee Жыл бұрын
aww man I wish I knew about this video earlier I just got a Nzxt h210 case today. $250 for a ASRock motherboard/case/power supply sounds like a deal! I have a low profile Pulse RX6400 in my HP EliteDesk 800 G2 SFF I love the card it outperforms the GT 1030 I had. my old CPU i5-6500 got maxed out 100% playing Rainbow Six Siege. I changed to i7-6700 but only helped lil bit 80-90% CPU usage with RX6400
@saddlesore_adventures2 жыл бұрын
very cute case. i just wish they've sold it without PSU for less money.
@gedeuchnixan38302 жыл бұрын
There should be ventilation holes for the PSU so it can be fliped around, having the PSU fan right above the CPU fan both fighting for air can´t be good thermal design. I get it should act as exaust, but not that close to the CPU fan.
@gedeuchnixan38302 жыл бұрын
@@iNeed2Pi So having hot air from the PSU flowing over an already overwhelmed and struggling cooler is what you call "good thermal design"?
@titan5572 жыл бұрын
Will ASRock be offering this combo with a AMD B550 ITX build option? 30C is a bit toasty, Is it humid too?
@yujiecheese Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great review! :) What is the form factor of the motherboard included? Is it upgradable by swapping in a standard mini-itx replacement?
@seapearl31753 ай бұрын
12400f (with noctua cooler) and rx6600 works like a charm
@wojciechgromek2502 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, i LOVE all the super small/small computers! Im reallly looking forward to building one, a small, fast and with the best price to performance possibile. Wha do you think, could you make a video on that, not with new and expensive parts but used and cheap ones? Cheers
@techyescity2 жыл бұрын
Can make it happen if you want, do you want later gen stuff or xeon style used stuff?
@wojciechgromek2502 жыл бұрын
@@techyescity do whatever you'd like more but id rather some cheap xeon style pc. Whichever one you do i will still appreciate it.
@justinpatterson52912 жыл бұрын
An sfxl psu would do better in this case. Probably give you the clearance for a taller cpu cooler too.
@alannitcher5001 Жыл бұрын
Toasty Bros did this build with the 12100f. They said that the power supply has reverse air flow. So the fan is supposed to face the cpu. While it would send slightly heated air, there would be plenty of it. This might help with thermals.
@nzagorsky Жыл бұрын
I wonder what happens when that PSU needs to be replaced…
@larrybreavman4864 Жыл бұрын
I like a lot this little PC, however ASRock should deliver it with a SFX PSU, so you can install a decent CPU cooler instead the usual Intel thermal-crap solution. It's almost perfect and if ASRock fix some little issues, it could be perfect.
@SkywardKing2 жыл бұрын
Wild that they packed that PSU in there, it looks crazy lol. It takes up so much space lol. I'd like to see this with an AMD APU build, smaller PSU and better cooling. Would be nice. Nice video
@iliaslive70062 жыл бұрын
It's cost efficient, but stupid.
@TheFinalRevelation22 жыл бұрын
Did ASRock send you an air conditioner to go with this ?
@JamesJones-zt2yx2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great review. It's good to get price info, but where can one buy one? (Ah, found it via the eBay link. Thanks!)
@gameronabudget18112 жыл бұрын
The ram is not bad it's just at xmp the voltage is 1.35V not 1.2V I'm willing to bet that kit will do 3200 cl18 easily at 1.35V
@joeltyler34272 жыл бұрын
Oh, I spotted a UART connector. Near the front of the Mainboard. I wonder if that could be used for debugging?
@DuneRunnerEnterprises2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, it's time to mod that case ???
@FirstLast-bi1ve2 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty good.
@tyre13372 жыл бұрын
this looks more suitable for office use than gaming or productivity
@arch11072 жыл бұрын
with a i3, because the i5 wast cooking itself
@benuten39072 жыл бұрын
True..toasty..
@virtualfilmer2 жыл бұрын
How are you coping with 30 degree+ indoor temps mate with no air con?? 🥵
@RemusKingOfRome2 жыл бұрын
WOW! so many future expansion possibilities ... :( I'll keep my Dark Fleet.
@prep0wer2 жыл бұрын
So to prevent overheating also just use a slow HD and slow RAM like on the PS3.
@ocha-time2 жыл бұрын
I do not like that case layout with GPU fan clearance being nonexistent. I'd keep the bottom off and install some ...LARGE legs to give it some ground clearance. There's a reason they'd include a 6400, and that's thermals. i3 probably best. But that's a $250 toaster. I'd recommend this for a server config, GPUless if possible, but you can get smaller cases for less if you're doing that, so it's a head scratcher that a case seemingly built with GPU in mind supports it so minimally
@skatar01887 Жыл бұрын
Wondering why the total time to build doesn't seem to include the software that's always needed & required, installing & updating the OS, firmware & Bios update, drivers & firmware for GPUs etc. Mechanically inclined people usually don't have a problem building a PC, but man sometimes software can make you pull your hair out.
@NewsGGs2 жыл бұрын
yes tech i have a question Is the QTB1 still a good value for money o we just should go with the i3 12gen or i5 10/11 gen ? And thx
@HuntaKiller91 Жыл бұрын
Rather than selling my 12100f in my current zzawC2 rig I might upgrade to 13400f and buy this deskmeet to put in the i3 Shud be good with rx6400 since all i need to use is 15" portable monitor which i already hv the anmite ones RSR shud make this gpu live a very longtime
@Demon09-_- Жыл бұрын
"warning" undervolting this cpu even though the option is on insdie the bios will result in huge performance pentaly. intel implementeled some new undervolting protection that even when turned off on this motherboard causes issues. something as simple as a 50mv undervolt caused me to drop down to a 5k cb23 score instead of a 12k on a 12400f. Your best option is to do like he did here and actully limit the clock speed down.
@sixcoregamer92212 жыл бұрын
Try without the rear I/O cover. The cpu is starved for air due to PSU and no case fans. Also, why can't you undervolt in afterburner??
@soniccdx2 жыл бұрын
kinda like those old shuttle barebones from the p4 days
@marcusmackan0072 жыл бұрын
Hey Bryan! is it worth now to take the gamble to upgrade windows 11?(9900k, Maximus XI Hero mobo, GTX 1080ti (if it matters?) )
@vinyfiny20192 жыл бұрын
No idea why they didn't allow for a front fan like the SG13. Looks like there's room for at least a 140mm fan if not larger.
@The_Trojan2 жыл бұрын
I always think Bargain!!! and then I remember you're talking USD :) ...No airflow at all is a bit of a killer.
@ABaumstumpf2 жыл бұрын
Somethign seems completely wrong with that CPU/System. You are telling me that an i5 12400 still draws 65W when running just 3.6GHz undervolted?? I just tried it with my i7 8700K. No undervolt, just disabling all "enhance" features of the motherboard and using IXTU to limit it to 65W. And that still runs 3.7 GHz allcore.
@Devilmasscot2 ай бұрын
Does the mobo support rebar?
@darrooxx2 жыл бұрын
Can you give tips how to survive the dead heat of the summer with a prebuild . No mesh. I have undervolt my pc but after sleep mode and restarting the biios was reset on a odd manner.
@virtualfilmer2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha so many jokes! Love this video. More more more, Brian mate! :)
@christophermullins71632 жыл бұрын
3100cl22? Wow. I am feeling pretty good about my hyperx 2400cl15 running rock solid at 3000cl15.. I do need better ram but I am totally floored at what I got out of my old ram from 2015.
@techyescity2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I didn't realise the timings were so bad, but it was 30% cheaper than the next cheapest option after it lol....
@RayRiv73 Жыл бұрын
Would a dual fan gigabyte rtx 2060 8gb fit in this case?
@mintynuggets2 жыл бұрын
They should make a version with a flat, laptop style cooler to make it more similar to one of those ultra sff atom HP or an Alienware alpha or something.
@mm84362 жыл бұрын
The front I/O is part of the mobo? Hmm
@John_Doe1980 Жыл бұрын
hey mate, if using a SFX power supply which Top end low profile cooler could i use ? all the ones listed on the asrock website are pretty weak in terms of mass and airflow thanks in advance !
@John_Doe1980 Жыл бұрын
n/m found out the Noctua NH-L12S is perfect for this with a SFX PSU but your right the case needs better airflow oddly enough the front part would be Great for a 92mm intake fan so i have removed the plastic shell drilled a 80mm Perfect hole and put a circular mesh cover on the front plastic part and then on the Metal case drilled a 90mm Hole which doesn't affect structures integrity at all and attached a 90mm slim noctua fan there and will wait to see what my new cpu goes up to when it arrives (right now its just a basic 4 core no HT in it so its pretty tame )
@krasimirmitev25732 жыл бұрын
Please do video for GPU Undervolting
@HiltonT692 жыл бұрын
Apparently there are 3xSATA connectors. Is there any way to mount 3x2.5" SSDs in this chassis (assuming no gfx card used)?
@sinful93472 жыл бұрын
Is anyone actually able to buy this??? Clicked about a hundred links on the Asrock "Where to buy" and general googling and can't find it whatsoever, any help?
@Tesseus Жыл бұрын
yeah bought mines under 2 months ago at newegg
@demofighter2 жыл бұрын
Do you think they'll continue to build the deskmini?
@jabandz2 жыл бұрын
Would only use it for a media centre or VM client, otherwise better off spending more and getting an NR200P Max in my opinion
@Tekillyah2 жыл бұрын
2:30 Bry nutted, itx 4 mem slot ftw.
@BuddyPickleball2 жыл бұрын
TechYES, can you make a video on how to undervolt a cpu.
@RanenPo2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that motherboard will be available for sale separately. I'd gladly pay for an ITX board with 4x RAM slots that isn't the Asrock X299e-ITX with 4 SODIMM slots...
@dfgdfg_ Жыл бұрын
What is the maximum number of 3.5" drives it can fit? The manual says 2 but it seems you actually could fit 4?
@blacksun472 Жыл бұрын
4 2.5" drives
@Ulieq2 жыл бұрын
why would you undervolt a 12400??
@arnaudrobert48952 жыл бұрын
I guess the PSU "block" the air flow from the cpu cooler that's might be why the temp can be high ... I don't understand why they don't sent a SFX PSU instead of a standard one...
@tanmaypanadi14142 жыл бұрын
sourcing SFX PSU in large enough quantities might be cutting into their profits. There is still a silicon shortage along with other components.
@user-iz9up8pe4x2 жыл бұрын
1.35 voltage for the memory will solve the problem - it will run on 3200 mhz with better timings than cl 22.
@MAD450r22 жыл бұрын
can you fit an aiw in there?
@Teksers2 жыл бұрын
So the PSU is a CWT 80+ Bronze PSU without any 8 pin PCI-E cable... Why how hard could it be to put one? Why buy another PSU when this one has the cable lenght you need and not extra to have a spaghetii monster inside.
@chovekb2 жыл бұрын
That's more like a Ryzen APU case, and since they are so efficient and cool, the case could probably handle even a 5700G with additional good case fan and no gpu ofc xD
@4zims2 жыл бұрын
This case reminds me of the Jonsbo C2
@PCJesus02 жыл бұрын
could it fit something like a 750 watt psu in it?
@blacksun4722 жыл бұрын
Yes, it can fit for 750W SFX PSU.
@dexsters56432 жыл бұрын
I have a question about powersupplies. I was requested to make a build for a friend thats going to USA from Europe. But the thing is that in Europe power is 220V and in USA has 100-115V. I have a NZXT 700w 80+ bronze psu which is rated for 115-220V will it be ok in a area if the power is 110V?
@blacksun4722 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is OK.
@aleksandersaski53872 жыл бұрын
Noice piece of meet!
@Tenmilmedia2 жыл бұрын
So it seems like it's not possible to give the PSU any fresh air? :/
@River_Miles2 жыл бұрын
That's one spicy little meetball.
@gottahavitvt2 жыл бұрын
It's just kinda funny, when dell makes a custom motherboard for their cases, they get bashed by everyone. When a small brand does it they get lauded for ingenuity.
@rayanmalik57442 жыл бұрын
it still uses standard connectors, dell has their 20 pin atx memery and whatnot
@tyre13372 жыл бұрын
it's not only the size, dell uses proprietary power supplies
@michelwong12 жыл бұрын
👍
@djvidual82882 жыл бұрын
Not a huge fan of having this front IO directly soldered to the mainboard, making this mainboard unusable with other cases. Its cheap I get it, but there some design philosophies that shouldn't get overthrown. If we (also Gamersnexus) criticize Dell for doing this kind of practice (to a way worse extend) with proprietary form factor mainboards and unneccessary front IO solutions, we should do it with everyone else too.
@ilovehotdogs1257902 жыл бұрын
Good for itx i guess.. but cheap xeon and a gtx 1070 in an atx case for cheap would do better
@frankstared2 жыл бұрын
Why not use the 12100?
@andrewm61792 жыл бұрын
Can we actually buy these machines yet? Very frustrating as they’ve been reviewed for over a month now. Thanks for the vid
@techyescity2 жыл бұрын
Ill ask asrock its in stock in Japan here, just not sure why some of these units get to the US so late.
@andrewm61792 жыл бұрын
@@techyescity thanks for replying. I’m in Australia so god knows when it will filter it’s way down here
@darrooxx2 жыл бұрын
Brian you must more use sunscreen because i am older than you andi have some operations after skin cancer, because i use in the past years t less sunscreen or non.
@jorgeariel10902 жыл бұрын
i have the msi rx 6400 , never go above 60 deggrees in gaming ,the systen is i7 4790s ,16 ddr3 2400 and a z97x gaming 5 in a q500l case
@tyre13372 жыл бұрын
never goes above 60 fps as well? 6400 + pcie 3.0 = big ouch
@LolJolk2 жыл бұрын
I dont think this is for sale in the usa or europe at the moment
@DuneRunnerEnterprises2 жыл бұрын
Can you try to build something in this price???
@NewsGGs2 жыл бұрын
Or u can try going with some Apus like atheon 3000g , ryzen 3 2200g or ryzen 3 3200g Note : 3000g
@NewsGGs2 жыл бұрын
Or u can try prebuilts with a 1050 or 750ti Still a good value for money
@marioStortuga2 жыл бұрын
Nice to meet you fom NYC
@rkadi65402 жыл бұрын
Asrock with another sff pc offering? Completely a normal phenomenon
@iskanderbouziane33002 жыл бұрын
Funny thumbnail 😂
@AshtonCoolman2 жыл бұрын
This is a cool concept, but I can't trust Asrock. If any other board manufacturer made one, I'd snatch it up.