Is Universal Basic Income The Key To The Future? | Answers With Joe

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Joe Scott

Joe Scott

4 жыл бұрын

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With AI and automation already displacing jobs in the United States, and the problem only expected to get worse, the idea of a Universal Basic Income is being touted as a solution to save us. But is it all it's cracked up to be?
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@parkey5
@parkey5 4 жыл бұрын
If I had UBI I'd definitely sign up for Brilliant.
@Malikramus
@Malikramus 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It would spread the money out to many different smaller business and would circulate over and over again in our economy, rather than it just being swallowed up by the giants to sit somewhere and never be used.
@brianmaday9227
@brianmaday9227 4 жыл бұрын
Y'know, I laughed this off as a sarcastic quip, but I probably really would sign up for Brilliant or Curiosity Stream.
@WMTeWu
@WMTeWu 4 жыл бұрын
That's actually very fair point...
@orion10x10
@orion10x10 4 жыл бұрын
Don't bother. I tried to read their section on Big O notation (Computer Science stuff) and I only understood it because I just finished reading a book on it. If u didn't read that book it would have been really confusing.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
If I had UBI I'd stop working.
@paulmd2010
@paulmd2010 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you handle the right/left politics on your channel. I can tell you are much more to the left than I am, but I have never once felt that you are talking down to me or calling me an idiot because I am right of center. I have learned so much cool stuff from your channel. I look forward to each of your videos.
@LevelofClarity
@LevelofClarity 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we see more content creators move in this direction - Sticking to facts and understanding that opinions are valid, whether we agree with them or not.
@somethingelse4150
@somethingelse4150 3 жыл бұрын
We don't all need to be fanatics
@RizzyTizzyLando
@RizzyTizzyLando 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@brandonfranklin4533
@brandonfranklin4533 3 жыл бұрын
@the hevy yeah he’s admitted to being left wing in other vids and his other channel. As someone who is right of center I appreciate Joes commitment to facts and logical reasoning.
@beniolenio
@beniolenio 2 жыл бұрын
@the hevy As Brandon Franklin said, he has admitted to being left-wing. But what you said is quite dumb. If someone makes a joke at the expense of the right wing or just a joke that a right-wing person wouldn't make, does that not imply that they are on the left?
@mariae.santiago620
@mariae.santiago620 3 жыл бұрын
I worked for 41 years before retiring for good. I earn a respectable pension and social security covers the rest. With UBI, I believe participating in humanitarian projects would be the way to go. I could name a laundry list of projects that people could participate in while collecting UBI. My thing is fiber arts. I could teach young people how to sew and get creative with fabric. Automated factories lose the artistic ability to customize and create interesting design. That’s just one example out of many.
@Hornfancy
@Hornfancy 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Scott: A recession caused by automation might be on its way Coronavirus: Hold my beer
@electricalgenius6675
@electricalgenius6675 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Scott: A recession caused by automation might be on its way Coronavirus: Hold my beer US Senate: How are you gonna pay for that beer? Trump: We have the greatest beer ever! Some people say I brew the best beer. My tariffs on Chinese Virus Beer are creating the best economy this country has ever seen. Trump (tomorrow): I've never even heard of beer. What is beer? Fake news! Coronavirus: 🤦
@mr.nozzles9121
@mr.nozzles9121 4 жыл бұрын
You mean "Hold my RNA"
@joshbreaksk8IN
@joshbreaksk8IN 4 жыл бұрын
Right my jobs been stable for ten years and just laid off 18 people last Friday not me but a 1/3 of the work force here
@danielcoyne8169
@danielcoyne8169 3 жыл бұрын
me 7 months after the start of corona looking at this comment when the world cases were like 50,000 and now its 50,000,000 worldwide cases
@netaimonadal7927
@netaimonadal7927 3 жыл бұрын
Ironic since corona iS a beer and coronavirus is drinking it😂
@strainofthought9142
@strainofthought9142 4 жыл бұрын
I'm for yang and his form of ubi. I grew up poor (welfare, public housing, food stamps) 5 kids to a single mom. When the youngest started school, my mom got a minimum wage job (cleaning motel rooms) and the welfare stopped, food stamps went way down and our rent went from $0 to $250 (1983). In short, we became poorer. My mom worked her way up. With each increase in pay we received less assistance. She worked hard, taking all the overtime they offered, but she was running on a treadmill, never getting ahead. By the time she became the manager and all benefits stopped, all of us kids were already "troubled". Two had dropped out of high school, two were on track to dropping out and one was in a juvenile detention facility. The combination of not having a parent at home often enough, growing up in a "bad" neighborhood, attending the "poor kids" school where teachers didn't care all led us in a direction contrary to our best interests. All of us left home before we were 18. Three of my siblings spent time in prison. Looking back, we didn't stand much chance for any "success". The system was backwards and broken. It punished the working poor. With every foot my mom put forward, the system pushed one foot back. My story is not unique. It happened all around me then and is repeating today. Some, like my mom, try to get out of the system only to find themselves at the same result of my mom. Some are content in the system and dont ever leave and the results are the same. Of course some come out of the system and find success but most do not. UBI back then would have been much better for us and the country. My mom could have spent more time with us. She could have afforded to raise us in a safer place where we would have attended a better school. Our young minds would have formed in a nurturing environment. Society may have been spared the burden of paying to imprison us and instead invested in us to become contributing citizens. Today all of us 5 children now in our 40's still carry the scars of our youth spent in the system. All of us have or still are getting some form of welfare. UBI would end this cycle and give everyone a real opportunity at success. Thank you for taking the time to read my story.
@teakaymania
@teakaymania 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing it
@ericwhite1000
@ericwhite1000 4 жыл бұрын
This is a story worth sharing!!! Thank you!
@margaretnasso2885
@margaretnasso2885 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. UBI in some respect sounds good but our values need adjusting as well. Uniform health care, education, access to food and decent housing will all become issues. Not that it’s an issue now.
@racookster
@racookster 3 жыл бұрын
Ploo, it's very telling that you write as well as you do (better than any CEO I've known, in fact), and yet you say you're still on welfare. The U.S. is a horribly class-based society, and those born at the bottom rarely claw their way out of that hole. The smug rich call it "pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps" for a reason: it's a physical impossibility. The self-made man is an evil myth.
@bradywalker5291
@bradywalker5291 3 жыл бұрын
I've some parallels to your story, but my mom was disabled. At one point, we lived with 11 people including us. Each person afforded a bill for their stay. Eventually, my mom moved me up to a small town where the impact of UBI would've made such a huge difference(not that it wouldn't before) I've seen shops incapable of staying open, because nobody bought stuff. Franchises could stay, but we had two stores, one being unique to the region. Basically, the town was hopeless. Ive struggled the past few years, and now I live with my gf's mom. Still incapable of taking care of myself, by myself. Not wholly.
@ericensen
@ericensen 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I don't know when I last saw a political issue handled in a more balanced way. Joe is more trustworthy than anyone I know of in the mainstream media. Thanks Joe!
@CalmKidsBedtime
@CalmKidsBedtime 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Christensen Sad isn’t it
@rutessian
@rutessian 4 жыл бұрын
He might be more balanced, but he's also leaning towards to pro UBI side
@christopherchilton-smith6482
@christopherchilton-smith6482 4 жыл бұрын
@@rutessian because anyone familiar with the relevant data who doesn't have a corrupt agenda sees the value in this policy.
@robertmclaren3287
@robertmclaren3287 4 жыл бұрын
Yes he does seem to be leaning towards the UBI side but, this video proves that you can be balanced in your presentation while having your own opinion.
@knottreel
@knottreel 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherchilton-smith6482 What you are saying is that anyone who interprets the current data differently from me must have a corrupt agenda, Gee, now that sounds pretty unbiased, doesn't it?
@Dss-bm3rz
@Dss-bm3rz 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a conservative, but I actually like the idea of UBI. It's like capitalism, but you don't start at zero.
@alphatrion100
@alphatrion100 4 жыл бұрын
Its real freedom
@ResurrectingJiriki
@ResurrectingJiriki 3 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to do with capitalism. obviously it's communism, it removes incentive. you need prices/calculations to have a market. without those you just get communism with it's central planning. Just hope that the AI will not fuck up and not again result in many tens of millions dead people...
@allister.trudel
@allister.trudel 3 жыл бұрын
@@ResurrectingJiriki its not communism, it's socialist-capitalism. Capitalism with an actual goal to redistribute wealth more equitably. In communism, there is no higher class, everything is redistributed equally..
@scottwhat3362
@scottwhat3362 3 жыл бұрын
@@ResurrectingJiriki What central planning?. Nothing about UBI entails central planning. Yes, the government uses taxes to keep people at a certain base level. Those with ambition will still push us forward. IF technology does decimate most basic jobs. Something has to be done.
@ResurrectingJiriki
@ResurrectingJiriki 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottwhat3362 capitalism would be able to deal with that It's gobernment that destroys free markets. Something has to be done about gobernments destroying the economy and people's lives. The fact you don't understand the first thing about economics doesn't magically make this a solution that will NOT destroy incentive and more lives. But as every time with communists, they are better off dead...
@teachoc9482
@teachoc9482 4 жыл бұрын
I've been following Andrew Yang for a year, and you actually brought up some issues and points, like the Cherokee nation study, that I hadn't heard about before. You might be a good resource to Yang to help him with his policies. I think many of the current politicians, like him, are way more receptive to science than previous generations of politicians. Thanks for the fair, balanced info.
@bikerfirefarter7280
@bikerfirefarter7280 3 жыл бұрын
"many of the current politicians, are way more receptive to science than previous generations of politicians." oh, i nearly choked. thanks for the laugh. they are not 'receptive' they just use it as the latest excuse to perpetuate their position/fantasy.. i have to go i'm hyperventilating. :-)
@LeongGunners
@LeongGunners 3 жыл бұрын
He's got great ideas to raise more money, but just because there are more money doesn't mean the politicians and the lobbyists behind them will fund something like UBI. Something that goes against their own interests. Take a certain billionaire Mr Jeff for example. He works extremely hard to ensure he pays next to no taxes at all, despite being the richest man in the world.
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeongGunners This is just an attempt to buy votes with a welfare promise to replace Social Security.
@ben1895
@ben1895 4 жыл бұрын
It's always refreshing when someone gives a well balanced opinion on political subjects. Great video.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
It is. Do you know where I can watch one? Because this was the most blatant attempt at propagandizing I've seen in a minute.
@krashd
@krashd 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc Then you are clearly well programmed already.
@massiveheadwoundharry6833
@massiveheadwoundharry6833 4 жыл бұрын
Well balanced? How much time was really spent on the cons?
@KayKashi
@KayKashi 4 жыл бұрын
The Chopping Block change your name to “The angry Conservative”
@callbackdons
@callbackdons 4 жыл бұрын
Without even considering the subject of Univ. Basic Income ..there is extreme value in this video with respect to the impacts of poverty on young people
@spydergs07
@spydergs07 4 жыл бұрын
Add UBI then add 2 taxes to daily lives.... What's the point of adding $1000 a month that would cost $4 trillion a year to federal spending, then also add 2 different taxes to daily lives. That would cancel the $1000 a month. Literally a pointless idea.
@elsagrace3893
@elsagrace3893 4 жыл бұрын
spydergs07 no it doesn’t cancel the UBI. You aren’t doing math correctly but or you spend $12,000 a month. I believe the tax on spending that much per month would be enough to consume the $1000 per month UBI. So what. The wealthy break even. They don’t need the UBI to survive or to care for their children or elderly parents! If they really want to stash the UBI they can spend less. Like they always tell us not to buy a coffee or an avocado toast!!!
@irtzashahanpk
@irtzashahanpk 4 жыл бұрын
@Vlad the Inhaler You gotta discourage mindless spending hence vat
@rongants6082
@rongants6082 4 жыл бұрын
I was poor when I was young. I didn't like it. I worked hard, and provided services of value to others. Now I live on a million dollar property in Jackson Hole. And, now, lazy losers want to expropriate me to provide UBI.
@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS
@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS 4 жыл бұрын
Elijah Truth!!
@bellewether4534
@bellewether4534 3 жыл бұрын
I always find the argument that people would just stop working super weird. Have discussed UBI with a lot of folks and all of us said we would keep working (with the exception of some friends with young kids or long term health issues) That said, more financial security would empower a lot of people to make themselves more employable. Lots of people I spoke to mentioned they would use the money for things like skills training, going back to school, and regular medical check ups.
@Jonny5Fails
@Jonny5Fails 9 ай бұрын
@@antiricergt Do you not live in reality? In the one I live in, $1000 a month is not enough to survive in the US. The average cost of living for a single person in the US is over $3000 - of course people will still work. The reason people don't work when they receive disability is because the system is designed to keep you on it. If you get a job, you lose the benefits. Most people on disability would love to work, but if working means they can't get the medical care they need to live - living off $700 a month by living with someone else or in assisted living is a lot more appealing than, you know, death or hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical expenses. UBI isn't covering those expenses. It's just extra income. It's not enough to survive on, and it doesn't go away if you get a job. Since you'll still need a job, and you don't lose the thing keeping you alive by getting the job, you'll get a job. Lemme be clear here, I'm a conservative. Do I think this is needed? No. Do I think it's worth totally upheaving our nation's economy? No. But in the reality I live in, even my southern-born Church of Christ-raised-in self has enough common sense to know that, if it ain't enough to live on, people will still work. What I will say, as a conservative, UBI has *potential* IF and only if we completely do away with our social security and welfare systems. To that same end, as a conservative, I'm not inclined to support something that would have that drastic of a change to our country's economic and bureaucratic framework.
@dinoschachten
@dinoschachten 4 жыл бұрын
To me it sounds beautiful, one more step from the "survival of the fittest" to a society that takes care of each other. My own experience has proven that I am a much better person when I'm under less pressure and feel supported instead. It's true. The Yang way of measuring sounds really interesting, considering that most of us don't want money to hoard it, but to accomplish one of those standards he mentions - quality of life, effectively.
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 4 жыл бұрын
Universal Basic Income has potential but it's disturbingly close to socialism and therein lies a serious issue that needs to be watched very, very closely. Also, should the US ever implement/venture into a legit UBI type system... it needs to be made mandatory that, in order to collect UBI, people must work (or volunteer) a minimum number of hours every week to qualify for UBI... no excuses/no exemptions aside from certain legit medical reasons.
@marcbiff2192
@marcbiff2192 4 жыл бұрын
Bloody fanny .
@dinoschachten
@dinoschachten 4 жыл бұрын
@@__WJK__ That sounds like a nice idea, especially including volunteering into the definition of "work". That might really drive forward worthy causes that are currently neglected for a lack of profit.
@nixl3518
@nixl3518 4 жыл бұрын
WJK your idea of mandatory work defeats the whole purpose of the UBI. All you’re doing that is getting paid for your work but through a different source. The whole idea is that you are released from the obligation to work in order to “feed” yourself. That allows you the flexibility to do things that you could not otherwise venture into. So while you’re experimenting, you aren’t working until you figure out whether that experiment works or not. I think the key is that the money is not enough to give you a comfortable life, that it should be indexed according to the cost of living in your area and frankly if you’re rich you don’t need it so you don’t get it. Of course It’s all about the details.
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 4 жыл бұрын
@@nixl3518 - I see what you're saying but the main point I was trying to make was... by freely handing out cash to people without at least some kind of small requirement to get it/earn it, we end up with a lot of entitled citizens (aka: entitled brats). I was trying to point out the pos vs neg human psychology aspect between a handout vs a handout earned, if that makes sense(?) When we as humans put forth even a little effort to earn something (vs receiving a thing for free) we tend to appreciate the earned things more and also tend to take them much less for granted.
@momsnoteatingbugs1919
@momsnoteatingbugs1919 4 жыл бұрын
Really can’t see the downside to fewer lawyers in the world...
@salinagrrrl69
@salinagrrrl69 4 жыл бұрын
If it werent for lawyers we probably wouldnt need'em.
@jebes909090
@jebes909090 4 жыл бұрын
@@salinagrrrl69 🤣
@MrKago1
@MrKago1 4 жыл бұрын
are you kidding? keep those sociopaths in one place, easier to keep track of. that and workplace politics is already getting out of hand, I don't want those assbags coming in and making it worse.
@joescott
@joescott 4 жыл бұрын
I think even most lawyers would rather have fewer lawyers.
@lachoneu2
@lachoneu2 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Serastrasz
@Serastrasz 4 жыл бұрын
The most important issue, which is rarely mentioned, is that UBI needs to be implemented by a neutral group of experts! Having politicians negotiate the details is the surest way to get the worst possible version of UBI, which will backfire the hardest. Remember that some people WANT it to fail, just so they can then claim that any version will always fail.
@rodylermglez
@rodylermglez 4 жыл бұрын
Unsurprisingly it's the wealthy greedy people who want to see it fail (wealthy generous people want to see it succeed because that will save them the trouble of having to build an army to defend themselves in the future, plus it carves their names in history. The more altruistic ones can see it will be benefitial to humankind.) Unsurprisingly the wealthy greedy people are the ones in charge right now, and will be likely so until political and economical power can be divorced definitively. USA's biggest obstacle to achieve that lies in how they legalized corruption with the lobbying system.
@nramos33
@nramos33 4 жыл бұрын
And republicans will then gut that agency and appoint partisan hacks see the Consumer Protection Bureau or the State Department.
@elsagrace3893
@elsagrace3893 4 жыл бұрын
Yang’s UBI is pretty simple and straight forward. Are you talking about the tax collection to support the UBI or what?
@denniss3980
@denniss3980 4 жыл бұрын
I political lying troll , that is why Joe tries to keep his channel off politics
@allhumansarejusthuman.5776
@allhumansarejusthuman.5776 4 жыл бұрын
@@elsagrace3893 Obamas healthcare reform was simple, straightforward and clearly designed to lower health insurance costs or replace them with medicare. Have you seen what congress came back with?
@LemonMan91
@LemonMan91 3 жыл бұрын
I work in insurance... it's stressful, soul crushing and incredibly boring all at the same time. Unfortunately, my family rely on me to pay bills. If UBI was already a thing, I could look for a job that I really want to do, or go back into education. UBI needs to become a reality. I hope it's the norm by the time my 2 year old is looking for work.
@caseyfaceirwin
@caseyfaceirwin 4 жыл бұрын
Me, in the future, watching during the corona virus crisis, waiting for my stimulus check “Ya’ll should have voted for Yang!”
@jimmykelly2809
@jimmykelly2809 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@dingusdingus2152
@dingusdingus2152 2 жыл бұрын
A trillion dollars here, a trillion dollars there, and pretty soon you're talking about some real money... ---Everett dirksen
@WeBeGood06
@WeBeGood06 4 жыл бұрын
The UBI effect on the Native American Children was Not that they knew their saving account grew, it was a reflection of the effect UBI had on their Parents. Their Parents acted differently that improved their Children.
@rongants6082
@rongants6082 4 жыл бұрын
That particular example is worthless: The Cherokee are a small group who are able, through their casino income, to garner and distribute a windfall. UBI for 300 million people will NOT be like that.
@nicholasbrosseau6035
@nicholasbrosseau6035 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see how you would use the natives. The Res is universally regarded as terrible
@jlv1180
@jlv1180 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasbrosseau6035, from the perspective of a 30 year old outsider but I believe the point made was of the children just coming of age. It's only been about 20 years since this was enacted and the study shows improvement at less than 20% of the adult population, of which, there are smaller percentage with children that this applies too. Gotta love statistics. Makes anything look like a large piece of the pie if you just keep dividing the slice. Lol
@nicholasbrosseau6035
@nicholasbrosseau6035 4 жыл бұрын
@@jlv1180 that's kinda what I feel. Overall the tribes are really not doing so well, and they've got soo much welfare coming through. To say nothing of the dividends that some tribes are getting from casinos. If there's evidence supporting UBI I don't see it in this case.
4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasbrosseau6035 They don't have torture camps or slave prisoners .
@tilmerkan3882
@tilmerkan3882 4 жыл бұрын
The Game "Monopoly" would be very boring, without UBI
@sebione3576
@sebione3576 4 жыл бұрын
It would be over immediately. I call that a GOOD game of Monopoly 😂
@interstellarsurfer
@interstellarsurfer 4 жыл бұрын
Touche, sir! 👌😄
@Stonegoal
@Stonegoal 4 жыл бұрын
The game would be very different without UBI. There is a set amount of demand and a set amount of supply. The amount of money on hand will change the cost of things. Property value and rent value will not be how we remember them.
@matthewyork4792
@matthewyork4792 4 жыл бұрын
Monopoly has basic income. $200 to pass go.
@purespiritcloud
@purespiritcloud 4 жыл бұрын
Theres a reason they call it a salary. Its not a UBI. It assumes your working for it.
@jimiweezer
@jimiweezer 4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna put a mattress in a van and live off of my $1,000/month.
@imdawolfman2698
@imdawolfman2698 4 жыл бұрын
And make Jack Keroack style You Tube videos, give massages and play the banjo. Why not?
@lightyzhere
@lightyzhere 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, please tell me it will be "down by the river."
@softb
@softb 4 жыл бұрын
It’s exactly because of people like you that some scepticals remain sceptical But i don’t worry Once everybody starts working +UBI you’ll regret ever doing that.
@alphatrion100
@alphatrion100 4 жыл бұрын
Real free choice. Real freedom!
@erinfroehlich
@erinfroehlich 3 жыл бұрын
Similar plan, but yurt. How is it an abuse of the system if people choose to live more simply and consume fewer resources rather than work? We only have one life - you're going to spend it working for someone else at a job you don't really care about? I feel it's very wise to value time and freedom over material things.
@zytherioszytherion7485
@zytherioszytherion7485 4 жыл бұрын
"it's time to panic" we all knew it was coming...... Lol
@natesmodelsdoodles5403
@natesmodelsdoodles5403 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for it. There was no way Joe was gonna leave that one hanging.
@johntheux9238
@johntheux9238 4 жыл бұрын
It would also reduce fake jobs.
@joescott
@joescott 4 жыл бұрын
There's a great book I read called Bullshit Jobs. It was really interesting.
@rtdl2
@rtdl2 4 жыл бұрын
@@joescott I finished reading it last week and immediately thought of it while watching.
@CHarveyProductions
@CHarveyProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe all jobs will end up being fake jobs just so we have something to do... :/
@hynjus001
@hynjus001 4 жыл бұрын
You mean like those guys who dance with signs for nearby stores, both promoting the store while debasing the employee?
@unknownx7252
@unknownx7252 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, get rid of the gig economy!
@Tuvok_Shakur
@Tuvok_Shakur 4 жыл бұрын
Great job tapdancing through the minefield
@stevensmutko1408
@stevensmutko1408 4 жыл бұрын
He danced around all the hot buttons LOL.
@officialspock
@officialspock 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, well done joe
@notheisenbear5686
@notheisenbear5686 4 жыл бұрын
I was cringing when I heard the topic on OLF, but he pulled it off nicely.
@Kenji1685
@Kenji1685 4 жыл бұрын
Yup.. none of the mines got triggered.
@CounterfittXIII
@CounterfittXIII 4 жыл бұрын
@John Smith if so, then Star Trek does as well. We're likely to develop a different economic from what we know as communism or capitalism in the future. I guess we could have jobs like George Jetson, idk. The number of jobs may not decrease by 40% in ten years, but it's highly likely in a hundred. It's easy to imagine that 1000 years out we're all governed by some version of wall-e robots, and any job you take is one taken for pleasure, not payment. Call it communism if you like, but it will look nothing like Stalin's communism.
@dylanmorgan5589
@dylanmorgan5589 4 жыл бұрын
I like that it's actually fair. Every bit of social help has excluded my family for various reasons while other families were pushed far ahead of us by the government for stupid reasons. It seems like a good replacement for a lot of pointless services. On top of all that I'll mention again. It's fair.
@MrDeviantChaos
@MrDeviantChaos 4 жыл бұрын
Mid Covid19 season i think every person would benefit from having some security while everyone is in lockdown. Ive also seen another breakdown of UBI and they suggested taxing companies that use more automation. So a tax per robot used instead of a person. But that tax will still be less than what they pay said worker in wages benefits and so on. so the company still saves by having a robot. The money gained from the extra tax due to robotic workers goes in to the pot used for paying UBI
@treborironwolfe978
@treborironwolfe978 4 жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to see that almost 99.7% of the viewers are open-minded and rational thinkers, based on this video's current approval rating :)
@davidchindumbo7637
@davidchindumbo7637 4 жыл бұрын
UBI is closed mind. Open mind is supporting real freedom
@krashd
@krashd 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidchindumbo7637 Well anarchy is the alternative to socialism once capitalism is dead in a century or so, as long as they keep you anarchists away on an island somewhere so you don't try to rob the rest of us out of desperation.
@terranovarubacha5473
@terranovarubacha5473 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you felt less refreshed after Rob and David replied Worth a laugh anyway :p
@brink2253
@brink2253 4 жыл бұрын
Love how you manage to talk about hot topics without putting your own political bias in all your videos. Rare these days.
@KaiLastOfTheBrunnen-G
@KaiLastOfTheBrunnen-G 4 жыл бұрын
You can't be serious. He was dying to yell "we have to have this". I like his science talks but it's clear where his politics are.
@darcflame37
@darcflame37 4 жыл бұрын
It's more clear he is being moderate about his political views in respect to the audience. This video steers more to the benefits or the impending issues it might solve than the opposite. It doesn't "yell" anything.
@zachburke8906
@zachburke8906 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure he showed political leaning in this video. However I still can appreciate the video
@BXJ-mi9mm
@BXJ-mi9mm 4 жыл бұрын
There is some serious capitalist bias in this video.
@MrKago1
@MrKago1 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, this is a hugely politicized issue and he has a bias yes, but it's not that bad and he is actively trying to reign it in. Which is all we can ask on these kinds of topics, whatever your political beliefs are.
@ProCvOficial
@ProCvOficial 4 жыл бұрын
Each time an American call a left-winger 'liberal' my European libertarian heart struggles
@bonda_racing3579
@bonda_racing3579 3 жыл бұрын
curious as a American libertarian what do you think about firearms and drugs? Like weed and other substances?
@MathMith
@MathMith 3 жыл бұрын
liberalism and libertarianism are not the same, they are quite the opposite in fact
@MathMith
@MathMith 3 жыл бұрын
@lygophile that's weird, in Canada where I'm from and in US, Libertarianism is probably the most rightwing political stand there is, where there is no power to the states, no taxes, no public services, all privates and everybody get only what they can directly pay for, so quite dystopian for a Canadian point of view. Whereas Liberalism here, is the complete opposite and is associated with leftwings, socialism, immigration, multiculturalism and all that stuffs
@fiskyfiskums
@fiskyfiskums 3 жыл бұрын
@Rigma Roll because they both start with L.
@fiskyfiskums
@fiskyfiskums 3 жыл бұрын
@Rigma Roll also its really easy to do. Try it once.im a liberal conservative.
@MegaVirus700
@MegaVirus700 4 жыл бұрын
"In just 4 years, were behaviorally no different from kids who had never been poor" sounds like a line out of the onion
@1alleybaba
@1alleybaba 4 жыл бұрын
MATH on the Andrew Yang swag stands for Make America Think Harder.
@FEV369
@FEV369 4 жыл бұрын
If you find yourself getting a UBI you will have to think hard... like how to avoid the hundreds of millions that will soon be living in mass poverty along side of you. You guys really should watch some Milton Friedman and not just take Yang's word for it, he's lying to you... MF never supported anything like a UBI, but he's dead so he can't tell Yang and his lazy base to go fuck themselves. Slogans, you literally will sell your self out for a mindless slogan... "Freedom Dividend..." I'm happy Yang had had more than fair time on all major news networks and been in 2 debates and still is at 1%... Luck is on the side of the economically sane for the time being.
@evankurniawan1311
@evankurniawan1311 4 жыл бұрын
@@FEV369 the video literally give an example of long term 'UBI' and it shows better life results
@caseylloyd8827
@caseylloyd8827 4 жыл бұрын
@@FEV369 dude cool it, this is not the place for such venomous commenting. Keep it civil or keep it to yourself. There are TONS of other channels that love when people get that riled but this isn't one of them. Grow up and remember some manners.
@TraditionalAnglican
@TraditionalAnglican 4 жыл бұрын
david abe - “Freedom Dividend” was the exact term used for the money most of us received from the government in 2002... As Nixon proposed it in 1969, UBI was to replace the myriad of agencies created during the Great Society & the War on Poverty (along with a few created by the New Deal), & UHI was to replace the “patchwork” of Medicare, Medicaid & Employer paid Health Insurance.
@PirateDion
@PirateDion 4 жыл бұрын
@@FEV369 we had an experiment of UBI running in Canada that was helping people escape poverty by either supplementing their rent payments, or allowing people to be able to afford a car payment. It boosted the health and quality of life of the people involved. Even if they copied what the Cherokee UBI system is like would be tremendous. Anyone under 18 gets even 500 a month till they're 18 by which a lump sum is given to start their careers/schooling. Would be significantly cheaper than UBI and help flourish the future generations.
@macberry4048
@macberry4048 4 жыл бұрын
On the Ubi issue, something Andrew Yang said that makes sense is that it's still capitalism but you don't start at zero
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
No, it just re-calibrates where that zero mark is. Have you ever used a micrometer or rifle sights? Zero is a relative value. You close a micrometer, loosen the set screw, and adjust the dial until it reads zero. When you first adjust a rifle sight, you fire a group and then adjust the sight in such a way as to match where the bullets impacted. If everybody has a little more money, they will theoretically spend a little more. That's the entire point of the exercise. But every first year economics student can tell you that increased demand leads to increased prices. Ultimately, equilibrium is reached and everyone's purchasing power is right back where it was before except now they are dependent on the government just to make ends meet.
@macberry4048
@macberry4048 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc it depends on who takes the money. This is a attempt to replace welfare and theirs a number of people who aren't on welfare who could use money to help them make it to the end of the month. Most people will probably pay bills, buy groceries, buy gas to get to work and maybe repair their house or car. Some people might do more dumb stuff they do already but even that feeds the economy and creates jobs
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
@@macberry4048 Nope, several other commenters have advised me that UBI is not intended to replace other welfare.
@macberry4048
@macberry4048 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc you can have one or the other. That's why he always points out that it's $1,000 no strings attached. In the interview I saw him on, he brushed past the part. There's no way people on welfare are going get welfare benefits and extra money
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
@@macberry4048 Thank you. So let's game this out. Let's say I'm living in public housing, receiving SNAP, UI, and disability. If I elect to receive UBI, I lose some of those benefits. What reason would I have to take UBI? The only reasons I can come up with are: - It's just plain cash so it's easier to spend on drugs. - The complex calculations that the bureaucrats use to determine how valuable some benefits are could come out in my favor sometimes or against in other cases. That is, maybe the government spends $1,200/mo on my housing, but I could get a similar apartnment for $800/mo. That's purely speculative on my part, but it really seems like UBI as you are explaining it is just another level of welfare for slightly less poor people who couldn't qualify for other benefits. I'm probably right in the middle of the demo that it's targeted at because $1,000/mo would make a profound difference to my family. $1,000/mo for each of us would be enough that I could just stop working.
@78dentedhead
@78dentedhead 2 жыл бұрын
"Enlargify your thinkification machine"... had me in stitches :'D Love your stuff Joe 👍
@darly5448
@darly5448 4 жыл бұрын
Man, this vid is aging really well
@calgar42k
@calgar42k 4 жыл бұрын
or not !
@toose8388
@toose8388 3 жыл бұрын
@@calgar42k I think that might have been the joke
@gyorgischwartz
@gyorgischwartz 2 жыл бұрын
Now we're in a economic recession
@ccourcier
@ccourcier 4 жыл бұрын
The real game-changer would be a shift in consciousness of We the People. I'm in my seventies now and for over 30 years I have watched people's lives transformed by changing from a me Consciousness to a we consciousness. When I changed my business model from a profit Centric to a We having fun together Centric business. Something completely unexpected happened... we never made so much money.
@matthewkopp2391
@matthewkopp2391 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. I worked in not-for-profit theater and had a lot of fun but made little money. And then I sold antique and design it was fun at the start but I held onto the objects a bit too greedily rather than realizing that the profit is in letting go and it started to become „not fun“ the more serious I was and then I liquidated. I am trying to figure out the next venture, but fun needs to be part of the whole model.
@FineyLeee
@FineyLeee 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for saying this! I completely agree! I feel that there is too much distrust in the world, and I believe that is the fundament of a bad mental health climate. I am convinced that a UBI will not only decrease poverty and increase productivity (because let's face it, humans generally do not want to just sit on their asses and do nothing), it will also increase the faith and trust in the government, and make people feel like they actually get something in return for all the taxes paid.
@Alex-gc2vo
@Alex-gc2vo 4 жыл бұрын
the thing is you can't do anything with that. sure it would be great if people had a We vs Me attitude, but they don't and you can't make them. with a UBI people are a lot more likely to have that attitude because they won't have to be as worried about themselves. obviously there will still be greedy people but maybe a little less.
@tenpoundsterlingtn7756
@tenpoundsterlingtn7756 4 жыл бұрын
Camden Courcier the system hates unified collectivism, unless its weaponized in a system of war. When the people start to think as a WE instead of a ME, the command chain gets convoluted and dismay can happen. Especially if you have a few divergent powerful people with empathy.
@BackstabberDD
@BackstabberDD 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alex-gc2vo Try not to be so negative. The shift is definitely happening, and I see it around me more and more. Turn off the news though, they'd like you to believe otherwise. ;)
@curiousworld7912
@curiousworld7912 4 жыл бұрын
Marcus Aurelius: 'Poverty is the mother of crime'.
@zBones762
@zBones762 4 жыл бұрын
Intelligence plays a greater role in the behavior of an individual than does economic status.
@CarFreeSegnitz
@CarFreeSegnitz 4 жыл бұрын
...which can be easily morphed into the criminalization of poverty. Get-tough-on-crime politicians will (have) proposed jailing poor people. Think workhouses. And, somehow, white collar crime doesn't exist.
@KarryKarryKarry
@KarryKarryKarry 4 жыл бұрын
zBones762 You’re debating a long dead Roman emperor. But he would say you’re mistaken.
@josephmarsh5031
@josephmarsh5031 4 жыл бұрын
Man was a genius.
@Malcolm61
@Malcolm61 4 жыл бұрын
Crime seems to pay UK. Chance of caught close to zero. Chance of police trying to catch criminal zero. Punishment when caught zero. Tax on criminal proceeds zero. Yes someone just stole my catalytic converter. Earlier in year some one stole all my luggage from boot of car.
@femmedraven
@femmedraven 2 жыл бұрын
UBI would have been a lifesaver when I was raising my kids and my ex wasn't paying his child support (he never paid it...not a dime). I worked 2 jobs/6 days a week most of the years they were growing up but it was still difficult to make ends meet and I HATED having to use food stamps but we had to a couple of times during those years. And you think things will get easier once the kids are bigger and you don't have to pay for daycare or babysitters anymore but it's not because they're bigger and there are more expenses to go along with that.
@amazingworldadventures325
@amazingworldadventures325 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of whether one is for or against UBI, this was a very thoughtful and well-balanced discussion of the topic. Just one of many reasons that I watch a LOT of Answers with Joe and recommend many of the videos to friends and colleagues.
@mikeself1
@mikeself1 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best information I have seen on this subject. Excellent pros and cons video!
@Huzzahgamers_inc
@Huzzahgamers_inc 4 жыл бұрын
Universal Basic MATH: (Correct me if I am wrong, Please. I am not above reproach, I make mistakes as well.) Equations: (Monthly allowance) x (Months) x (Current Population) = (Total cost for UBI Yearly) (Total Governmental income) - (Total cost for UBI Yearly) = (Remaining Budget for all other Social and Governmental expenses) $1,000 (Monthly) x 12 (Months) x 328,915,700 (USA Population as of May 2019) = $3,946,988,400,000 (Yearly cost of UBI for the USA) - $3,643,000,000,000 (USA Government estimated total revenue 2020) = $ -303,988,400,000 (That's a NEGATIVE Number!)
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
You can't be serious. He presented no substantive arguments against UBI. He didn't even MENTION the obvious problem of inflation.
@mikeself1
@mikeself1 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how people automatically assume and go on the attack. Virtually all other information for and against this subject is attached to political propaganda. Joe did a fairly good job of avoiding this. If you don't like his information, he gave you sources to go check out.
@TraditionalAnglican
@TraditionalAnglican 4 жыл бұрын
HuzzahGamers - Almost all Government social & welfare programs (& their attendant bureaucracies) would go the way of the Dodo Bird. That includes much of the SSA. Most of those earning >$3000/month would have to give back part or all of the stipend depending upon their earnings (Per Nixon’s proposal, that would be $1 of stipend for every $3 of earnings above $3000/month). That means 30% of Americans would get reduced stipends & 30% of Americans would not get the money at all. Because children are assumed to be living with their parents/legal guardians, they’d only get 1/2 what adults would get. So, you probably want to cut your figure by 60% & find some way to account for the disappearance of some of the New Deal & almost all of the Great Society agencies in your calculations. &, if Nixon was right, the government would get an additional $300+B in taxes from additional economic activity.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikeself1 Not even close. He just approached it from a perspective that you agree with so you are oblivious to the bias.
@NathaNeil27
@NathaNeil27 4 жыл бұрын
Im making good money for the first time in my life, but about a year ago I was making min wage at Subway. If I accepted more hours, I would lose free health insurance from the state. Because of this I had to refuse more hours at work, and therefore more money. I support universal income despite being in a better position right now. *Edit: I pick up lots of extra shifts now that I feel Im being paid what Im worth. I was raised on food stamps, public schools and medicaid.
@king_dyl
@king_dyl 4 жыл бұрын
Happy for you, keep striving to take the next step. Sounds like you're doing well so far. Good luck!
@Hard31337
@Hard31337 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on doing what you needed to do to get to a better position for yourself. I don't know you, but I'm happy for you.
@purespiritcloud
@purespiritcloud 4 жыл бұрын
So what your saying is you were dependent on a government system that controlled you and prevented you from making more money by potentially taking away your needs.... but you want to give them control over all our needs....
@crp9985
@crp9985 4 жыл бұрын
This is a real problem especially if you have children. $1 over the medicaid limit and you are screwed. My wife has people working for her who refuse more work because they have children and will lose their health insurance. They aren't poor but the way it works out. It's about getting your best bang for the buck. Working more in their cases makes no sense, I would do the same. Once you get medicaid it's free or half prices schools lunches, summer camp for free or very cheap etc. etc. $1 can screw that all up and it worth a lot of money, my health insurance costs $17,000 a year for a family of 4.
@NathaNeil27
@NathaNeil27 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin V. Im not going to try to hard to make you see my point of view but here goes... At the time, my support system sucked. Just starting off as an adult, I had no car, no money and my family wasnt able/wasnt willing to help me. Because I had to ride a bus to get to work, that severely limited my job options, especially night jobs since the bus didnt run pass a certain time. If my boss needed me to work odd hours, that wasnt an option. So here I was working TWO shitty min wage jobs but trying not to make too much so I could still save up without having to pay expensive bills. I guess the real "problem" is that I wasnt willing to go into debt. Two things happened that finally got me to where I am at. My brother kicked me out for something unrelated to money (I was paying $600/mo to sleep on a bed in a living room while working min wage) and felt like I had no future. Out of desperation, I went and lived with my sister and slept in a shed while it was snowing for about a month. Thanks to my sister, I got a better job where she was working and she gave me rides every single day even though she kindof didnt have the energy or willingness to do it long term. I met a co-worker who liked me enough to continue giving me rides. It wasnt until 4 months later that I had saved up enough to buy myself my first car and continue paying bills in the meantime. ANYWAYS, all these things had to line up to get me to where Im at now. But the thing that helped keep me off the street was the government giving me money. Without it, it wouldve been a lot harder. So yes, I want there to be more support for more people. You could probably bring up all sorts of arguments. Im not going to deflect each one. Im just saying that lots of people don't have support systems. Anyone who grew up with ANY sort of help should be grateful as I am. Im grateful for every bit of help I got, even from the government.
@Rooster361
@Rooster361 2 жыл бұрын
Long-time viewer long time subscriber, I like how you make your approach to things each way equally got a refreshing to see something not toxic. Thank you for the information that you've taught me over the years.
@alejandro_mery
@alejandro_mery 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt you look at these comments from old posts, but it would be amazing if you could revisit the UBI concept under the light of the pandemic
@xxxAyereaxxx
@xxxAyereaxxx 2 жыл бұрын
I second this now that we are starting to crawl our way out of it.
@bloggermouth
@bloggermouth 4 жыл бұрын
As a programmer, I am happy that my profession is trumping lawyers.
@Malikramus
@Malikramus 4 жыл бұрын
And since you're a programmer, I'm sure you're aware that neural nets are being trained to code.
@moth4256
@moth4256 4 жыл бұрын
@Keanu Reeves programming will be one of the last professions to fall to automation most likely, as it is an immense challenge
@tubebrocoli
@tubebrocoli 4 жыл бұрын
@@moth4256 Depends on what you're programming.
@KDPenland87
@KDPenland87 4 жыл бұрын
Until someone develops a program that can program programs, lol.... @JoeScott #AI
@joescott
@joescott 4 жыл бұрын
You chose... wisely.
@chrismuir8403
@chrismuir8403 4 жыл бұрын
Milton Freidman's proposal was a little different, it was linked to income so that the payments were reduced as income increased, but the reduction was less than the income increase, assuring that there was an incentive to earn more. But any guaranteed minimum income proposal, Yang or Freidman, would be an improvement over current welfare, and make it more reasonable to accept part-time or temporary employment.
@peglor
@peglor 4 жыл бұрын
From an administrative point of view giving everyone a fixed amount is much easier than making loads of rules to decide who gets what. A tax system where everyone gets a fixed amount and income taxes only start when income is significantly over that, say no tax till a person earns double the UBI means that taking on a job is still profitable. The UBI in the US will really only make a difference when healthcare costs are brought under control. Any country where people with health insurance are still filing for bankruptcy is deeply flawed. Outside of the US, this is almost unheard of.
@suthinscientist9801
@suthinscientist9801 4 жыл бұрын
How would a ubi be paid for short of increasing the income tax to over 90% for everyone in the middle and upper classes? Also, the universal basic income, coupled with the increased taxes, would discourage hard work. If people don't have to work full time jobs for major corporations to make ends meet , trust me, they WON'T!
@winomaster
@winomaster 4 жыл бұрын
@@peglor Since everyone wants to live forever, the appitite for health services is endless. Few people are going to feel they don't need more health care. It has been our increasing prosperity that has had people feeling they are entitled to the most advanced procedures available.
@stephenolan5539
@stephenolan5539 4 жыл бұрын
@@suthinscientist9801 In Canada I would say make the system simple and lay off most welfare administrators and all Canada Pension Plan workers, etc. And if you wanted to ever eat out or go to a movie or have a drink oreven go for a drive, you would have to work. If it were possible I would almost want a dual currency system so that the UBI could not be spent on non-essentials.
@suthinscientist9801
@suthinscientist9801 4 жыл бұрын
Milton Friedman's idea would be better than both the current welfare system and what Yang is proposing. The main thing is to help those in need of financial aid and help them lift themselves out of extreme poverty.
@vampirefrompluto9788
@vampirefrompluto9788 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what some people are scared of with UBI. $1,000 a month really wouldn't go that far so people would likely still work at least a little. Using my own monthly expenses as a base: $500 monthly rent ~$100 utilities ~$250 monthly groceries ~$120 student loans $300 car payment That's $1,270 a month in expenses so I would still need to earn $270 for other living expenses. Also this isn't including going out to eat, seeing a movie, buying clothes, paying for a streaming service or 5, etc.
@stephaniemclean3458
@stephaniemclean3458 3 жыл бұрын
I think Ubi is going to be essential in the near future. From what I have seen even factory’s are going to be fully automated including self maintaining, that and most other professions as well. Because technology is advancing exponentially the scary thing is it’s happening faster than we think.
@fredsfreshbeats
@fredsfreshbeats 4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on UBI are this: Thanks for the rent money, I need to go to work now.
@sujimtangerines
@sujimtangerines 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. And we can perhaps pursue jobs that actually contribute more to society, advance science/medicine etc., Or fulfill us (making a happier, more content population) since we aren't stressing about housing (or other basic necessities).
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea, it means I could work part time or no time if I wanted to.
@buckroger6456
@buckroger6456 4 жыл бұрын
@@douganderson7002 what I'm old and lazy now lol.
@delltawnnorthri7459
@delltawnnorthri7459 4 жыл бұрын
@@douganderson7002 I don't mind the idea of working less than the 50 hours a week I do now. 30 would be nice.
@johnkslee82
@johnkslee82 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds good to me
@Malikramus
@Malikramus 4 жыл бұрын
Been following you for years Joe! Thanks for doing this video. The general population needs to be thinking about this subject because it's only going to accelerate over the next decade. And it's not just automation. We need someone who's also thinking about what else is to come, like BMIs, AGI, molecular manufacturing, etc.
@christopherchilton-smith6482
@christopherchilton-smith6482 4 жыл бұрын
These red pills aren't working, i want my money back :p
@awuuwa
@awuuwa 3 жыл бұрын
18:33 As far as I know, soviets failed because of being poorly executed, you see, it's not about being either full on capitalism, or full on communism, it's the balance.
@markp33
@markp33 3 жыл бұрын
The factor I think is often ignored, is that most of the UBI money goes right back into the economy and boosts it for everyone, even the rich.
@miket485
@miket485 4 жыл бұрын
A few benefits of UBI - 1. Reduced homelessness 2. Reduced recidivism 3. Reduced child poverty 4. Increased charitable giving Still, there are a lot of unknown effects that wouldn't all be good, I think some serious study and modeling would be necessary.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
Correction: "A few *possible* benefits of UBI" I agree those things would be nice. But without any empirical data, we are just speculating. I think it quite likely that the additional cash pushes prices up and we all stabilize at more or less the same level of buying power but with more government dependence. It's entirely plausible that UBI could have a negative influence on each of the factors you mentioned.
@wyattb3138
@wyattb3138 4 жыл бұрын
The Chopping Block, but you know people will misuse that $1000 a month. It won’t be completely effective.
@tibfulv
@tibfulv 4 жыл бұрын
I've listed a few objections elsewhere. Review them if you want. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mZqHa9Nkx5jUZWw.html&lc=Ugy5tmoxQyfXXIpfX9Z4AaABAg
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
@@wyattb3138 Probably not. One of the biggest arguments against us that we really have no idea how things would play out and no way to know. I'd rather see the effects for decades in some Scandinavian country before attempting UBI in the US.
@ayaa.1351
@ayaa.1351 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc Was the casino and kids not enough for you?
@peteoconnor6388
@peteoconnor6388 4 жыл бұрын
This might be my favourite channel on KZfaq and now I've got 40+ episodes of Our Ludicrous Future to watch.
@ELCinWYO
@ELCinWYO 3 жыл бұрын
My choice was Yang, but he didn't even have a chance. Thank you for doing this video, only wish I'd discovered you earlier.
@Anita4RDH
@Anita4RDH 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve shared this cause I agree with you! And I hope some of my friends need to consider this topic! Thanks!!
@choreboy988
@choreboy988 4 жыл бұрын
When I lost my free state -healthcare- insurance*, I made something like $30-$50 over the maximum income allowed. Haven’t had healthcare since. Edit: To clarify, I meant I lost my free state insurance. I haven’t been able to see a physician without paying $150 up front. I’d have to lie about being homeless to get seen for free (or so I’ve heard). Unless it’s something the emergency room can fix, I’m SOL. And since most emergency room visits are for injuries, I’m treated like a opiate junkie because doctors have become assholes to anyone in pain, especially if you don’t have insurance (in my experience). I haven’t had healthcare, like a proper doctors appointment, besides some emergency room visits for over 2 years. So it’s not like I’ve been suffering, but issues are starting to slowly arise with age and negligence. Just glad I’m relatively healthy. I appreciate everyone’s kind words nonetheless.
@MyBrainVent
@MyBrainVent 4 жыл бұрын
That sucks. Im sorry. Conditional support is inhumane.
@axeguy3856
@axeguy3856 4 жыл бұрын
Chore Boy Not fair. That needs to be fixed. You should be rewarded for working, not penalized.
@maxmouche
@maxmouche 4 жыл бұрын
that's nuts.
@MrLanceDBrown
@MrLanceDBrown 4 жыл бұрын
How barbaric and disgusting. Free healthcare is a human right AND good for the economy.
@Staremperor
@Staremperor 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrLanceDBrown Definitely not human right And it's never free, someone always has to pay for it. I'm from Czech Republic and we have public healthcare system. Every citizen is insured and insurance is calculated as a percentage of ones income and it's deduced automatically. So it's not free - everyone pays for everyone's healthcare and it works quite well (of course, there are some issues). And it's good for the economy. So just modify your words a little, you have it almost right.
@Hempage
@Hempage 4 жыл бұрын
I have bigger issues with our current welfare system than with the UBI. That poverty trap is dangerous!
@MelindaGreen
@MelindaGreen 4 жыл бұрын
One by one, those welfare systems can be rolled into the UBI, meaning that those whole programs can piggyback on the UBI infrastructure. If a UBI works, then it can drag other programs upward with it.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
@@MelindaGreen People say that, but when pressed other proponents of UBI admit that they don't intend to do any such thing and that UBI will simply be added to existing programs.
@DaveCleasc
@DaveCleasc 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc that is entirely dependent on the level of the UBI. $1k a month isn't enough to live off, so it wouldn't be able to just replace all other welfare systems. But if it was more like a minimum wage ($20k /year) then there would be no need for other forms of welfare.
@MelindaGreen
@MelindaGreen 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc Both are true. Those other programs will not depend upon the UBI or vise versa, but it will save money to start using the UBI infrastructure for other programs one-by-one. This also eliminates risks because even if the UBI fails, nothing else will be affected.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
@@MelindaGreen Nothing else except all the people you took money from to pay for it.
@hopebradley1417
@hopebradley1417 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is a really good explanation. I don't want it to come to this, but at least now I understand how this would work for the economy.
@AkizukiSakura16
@AkizukiSakura16 3 жыл бұрын
For those who disagree with the idea of a handout: There's also something to be said for the difference between the motivation to have more and the security in knowing that your basic needs are met, I think. Allowing people a monthly stipend to ensure they have the funds to meet their basic needs will separate people into groups. Prominently: those who scrape by on the bare minimum and those who strive to achieve more. How much different would a person's life be if they knew that their jobs gave them a bonus, rather than struggling to make ends meet? You can apply this to careers that are historically underpaid, as an example. Many teachers would appreciate knowing that the have the funds to assist with their basic needs and can divert more energy towards making a genuine difference in a student's life. I wouldn't call UBI a handout so much as a way of ensuring all people can start on a more level field -- and, ultimately, you (the taxpayer) are still going to come out on top. Sure, there are people who are going to sit around on that thousand dollars and do nothing productive. That, as Joe says, is the unfortunate truth of society. But unlike welfare programs, you (the taxpayer) are also going to receive that stipend. Yes, you'll be taxed to help fund it, but not a thousand dollars every month. You will very likely go home with more money. This can be likened to the allowances that military members receive. As an EM3 in the US Navy, I received an allowance for housing (BAH) and an allowance for sustenance (BAS). This meant that although my base pay wasn't phenomenal, my basic needs were met before I ever received a check. My base took my allowances for housing and sustenance when I lived in the barracks and ate at the galley. When I moved into off-base housing, my rent was covered by my BAH any my allowance for sustenance, as a single sailor, was more than enough to feed me. This meant that my relatively small base pay didn't matter, because the two biggest expenses I had -- food and housing -- were already taken care of. If we wanted to apply this to a more relatable situation, think of a student in university, who can now devote less time to working and more time to their studies. Or, at an even greater impact, families with children or disabled dependents. Many families have to weigh costs versus benefits when considering whether it's more advantageous to send their child to some sort of care center so that both parents can work. To put my child into daycare was $150.00 a week -- $600 a month. More than my rent at the time. A stipend would encourage one parent to stay home with their child while the other works, without worrying about the financial impact. There's a lot to be said about the idea of 'allow our citizens to afford basic human needs' that don't necessarily need to equate to welfare. Especially since something like this goes to everyone. Those who like to give their all to a job are likely to continue doing so, as it's just in their nature, so I'm not sure just how much productivity would be lost. If anything, a system like this would trim the deadweight of those who do the bare minimum for a paycheck -- or potentially turn those people into harder workers with the stress of financing their existence is lessened. While I'm sure this concept has a lot of flaws, and that the political nature of 'handouts' would hinder it, this seems like useful discourse. What would you do with a guaranteed extra thousand dollars a month? Take a little time off to write a book? Learn a new skill?
@WalnutSpice
@WalnutSpice 4 жыл бұрын
Great KZfaqr: *struggling* UBI & Patreon: "I'm about to save this mans whole career"
@mrgrieze773
@mrgrieze773 4 жыл бұрын
Would be so wonderful to see Joe Scott on Joe Rogan Podcast :)
@shanemontgomery8846
@shanemontgomery8846 4 жыл бұрын
Slow clap and one Morgan Freeman tear 😢 Yes it would
@genxlibertarian9656
@genxlibertarian9656 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet fucking Jesus, please make this happen...
@Rattus-Norvegicus
@Rattus-Norvegicus 4 жыл бұрын
Sooo, I'm assuming we all watch both?
@mugfish0
@mugfish0 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan is WAY overhyped.
@brandonpaul5012
@brandonpaul5012 4 жыл бұрын
@@mugfish0 why's that?
@cannibalbananas
@cannibalbananas 4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I feel that a society that takes care of its people creates people who care more. And just because there are a few bad apples doesn't mean we should forsake everyone else.
@victorshaughnessy7884
@victorshaughnessy7884 4 жыл бұрын
Would it be crazy to assume the cost of living would increase proportionally to average income so the only outcome would be expedited inflation
@bastion9514
@bastion9514 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and No. Yes a slight bump in inflation due to increased spending but no not really as the govt has been dishing out trillions of free money to banks, big business and the wealthy since the GFC and inflation has hardly noticed
@jimatsydney
@jimatsydney 4 жыл бұрын
If the cost of the VAT was past onto consumers at 10%, roughly speaking, and your yearly spending was about $120,000 you would break even. The UBI would equal the VAT you paid. Above this spending you loose, below this you are better off. The poorer people who spend less are proportionally better off. Not many people spend $120,000 a year.
@Michael-vz7si
@Michael-vz7si 4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking. Devaluation and inflation of the dollar's worth and buying power
@astutecultivator2418
@astutecultivator2418 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't you heard Andrew Yang's song?
@DariusTulbure
@DariusTulbure 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Vaughan Is this an ironic comment? 120000 dollars spent a year?
@antifableach
@antifableach 4 жыл бұрын
UBI takes stress off of people and allows them to focus on getting a job that they want instead of working a job that they hate just to survive.
@EricDec
@EricDec 4 жыл бұрын
I used to live in the French-speaking part of Belgium and they had that for decades. In the sense that you could quit your job and apply for unemployment benefits with no questions asked. You could be fit to work or educated and still decide to quit your job. Many people did it and started working on the side (undeclared). That means working people would have to pay more taxes and the government had less money for roads, public transport, schools, parks and so on. The area was is in the heart of Europe but looks like Soviet Russia. As much as I would love to get paid to stay at home, I've witnessed with my own eyes how it can destroy a country.
@antifableach
@antifableach 4 жыл бұрын
@@EricDec hahahahaha yeah, I bet. Although, I still bet it's better than starvation wouldn't you say?
@antifableach
@antifableach 4 жыл бұрын
@Papa Demon hahahahahaha that's what all the bots say 😉
@antifableach
@antifableach 4 жыл бұрын
@Papa Demon you know I'm contractually obligated to tell you that I don't care, right? Oh, and I hate to break it to you, but I doubt anyone else does either. Have a good night.
@astreinerboi
@astreinerboi 4 жыл бұрын
@@EricDec that does not really compare to UBI but thanks for your input I guess.
@actualhowdy4398
@actualhowdy4398 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the evenly weighted approach to this polarising topic
@apparently2
@apparently2 4 жыл бұрын
Joe’s presentation wasn’t too bad, and he deserves some credit for that. But it’s clear where his sympathies are. The way he talks down markets is a dead giveaway. But what are markets? Markets are people, freely offering their goods and services to other people in exchange for money which is also freely offered, or withheld. In serving the market you are serving people. Markets are generally (though not always) humane, but that point is rarely if ever recognized by liberals, who far too often offer only compulsion and coercion under the guise of compassion.
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 3 жыл бұрын
UBI is nothing but a politician's bs sales pitch to get elected president. The inexperienced and those easily seduced by UBI always fail to ask the most important obvious question... Where exactly is the government going to get the billions/trillions of dollars needed (every year) to pay everyone a weekly UBI (lol) ???
@HayderAbdulridha
@HayderAbdulridha 3 жыл бұрын
@@apparently2 Yes, Billionaires are still people but so are the poor.
@zenkuei390
@zenkuei390 2 жыл бұрын
Sioux City! Don't forget Sioux City, IA! When I moved there to live with a friend back in 2011, you could receive $300+ monthly unemployment stipend they would deposit onto a plastic card issued to you through the state that worked just like a debit card. All I had to do was phone in every week or so, press a few buttons on a teleprompter, mail in a document that verified I went to A,B,C,D employers looking for a job every month [I was applying for disability], and everyone I met there that wasn't currently working would receive a cash balance. My friend wound up losing their place to stay, and I had to relocate to a shabby rental home in Wall, SD. I took copies of the documents with me so I could re-certify through my emergency situation and the cash benefit program still worked out of state, which helped tremendously because I was flat broke and stuck in an icy blizzard there that winter. I really enjoyed their annual Greek Festival and their sporting good malls and to date it's the only state I've been to that approved a cash benefit on top of my basic single-person food stamps. Thank you, Iowa! stay blessed!
@benabusthethird9751
@benabusthethird9751 3 жыл бұрын
75% of the cons with UBI could be negated by a set of fair and simple rules.
@benhac
@benhac 2 жыл бұрын
No they couldn't
@noz182
@noz182 4 жыл бұрын
Joe. I really appreciate the way you can assess topics from a non biased opinion. I was 100% against a UBI prior to this video. You brought a very enlightened perspective to both sides of the topic. I love the work you do! It was very intellectual, and was very informative. Keep up the good work sir! Also, you blew my mind when you said a new concept of democracy that supersedes capitalism. Of which, I am a huge supporter of capitalism.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
You can't be serious. This was the most blatantly biased piece of propaganda I've seen in years. He intentionally avoided the most obvious and compelling arguments against UBI.
@gfdia35
@gfdia35 4 жыл бұрын
The Chopping Block which is ? Please enlighten us all !
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
@@gfdia35 Lol. Okie dokie. Any discussion of UBI has to address inflation. He didn't mention. Not even in passing. Unless I'm mistaken, I don't believe he uttered the word at all.
@merlinthelemurian3197
@merlinthelemurian3197 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc because the freedom dividend doesn't cause inflation
@kathryncooper4001
@kathryncooper4001 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc There would be little to no inflation involved, since the Dividend would come from money already in existence, not from freshly printed cash. Demand-related inflation wouldn't happen, unless everyone in the country suddenly wanted a Tesla, for example; then the price of Teslas would go up. Typically, what drives inflation these days is disproportionate rise in the price of housing, health care and education. The Dividend would help us cover those increases, and I cannot see how it could be related to increasing them further.
@Jason-bk3nl
@Jason-bk3nl 4 жыл бұрын
“The politicians who are not talking about automation are failing the American people.” -Andrew Yang
@elsagrace3893
@elsagrace3893 4 жыл бұрын
The politicians who aren’t talking about automation are old dinosaurs who think they know-it-all about the ways of the world. They aren’t looking for what they don’t know coz they know everything. This is a very bad position that many old people fall into.
@williamswenson5315
@williamswenson5315 4 жыл бұрын
AI is completely outside of their mindset. If they didn't grow up with it, it remains and unknown to them.
@gabrielonibudo5710
@gabrielonibudo5710 4 жыл бұрын
@@elsagrace3893 Or maybe it's just not a big deal
@bhaktir2047
@bhaktir2047 4 жыл бұрын
If Andrew yang doesn’t win you Americans will be biggest idiots
@AndTecks
@AndTecks 4 жыл бұрын
@@bhaktir2047 We are already the biggest idiots
@eveded
@eveded 3 жыл бұрын
If I am expected to work, then I expect a home and food.
@ramoralesrp
@ramoralesrp 4 жыл бұрын
As a former Landlord for several years I rented folks on government assistance, I can honestly say this topic of UBI is not a one size fits all solution. I had people on government assistance be productive and supportive with other members of the community, but others squandered thier government assistance funds on drugs and only lived to burden themselves and others.
@Banalheart
@Banalheart 4 жыл бұрын
I had a UBI one time, but cranberry juice cleared that up.
@agargoyle12345
@agargoyle12345 4 жыл бұрын
highly underrated comment!
@agargoyle12345
@agargoyle12345 4 жыл бұрын
@@lucasprzybyla7084 UTI=urinary track infection
@GrimSleepy
@GrimSleepy 4 жыл бұрын
@@lucasprzybyla7084 Ulcerated Bowel Infection :D
@jerelull2619
@jerelull2619 4 жыл бұрын
UBI = Urinary Bladder infection?? Can't see it being worse than a UTI.
@pod8234
@pod8234 4 жыл бұрын
Dee Dee me too...laughed right out loud. Loved it!
@lizpimentel2566
@lizpimentel2566 4 жыл бұрын
If I had UBI on top of a job I'd be able to get out of debt in less than a year, save money, go to school, and buy a hime in the future. Right now its not looking so good though 😔
@lourainevillalon3852
@lourainevillalon3852 11 ай бұрын
same. it's crazy how others villinize some people for slacking just because they'll also be receiving 'free money'. while it's true that as joe said, that there are some people who would slack off if they don't have to get a job, there is a significant amount of people who would really get the most benefits out of it. atleast, those who would slack could participate to the society still by buying anything they'll want so it can and would circle back to the economy
@superfastmonkeysim5200
@superfastmonkeysim5200 2 жыл бұрын
I used to work for a firm that decided to let two people go and replace them with ONE robotic arm. The two workers role was to inspect a component at the end of a production line, then simply place the component into a large crate. The robot that replaced them cost £1,000,000. And required 3 months+ worth of calibrating by a team of Japanese engineers who had their living costs paid for while they were in the uk. Plus flights and wage. That company went bust 24 months later
@71.218-westshed
@71.218-westshed 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm skeptical with the bots taking over all the jobs, since while the bots will reduce costs in the long term, they will cost a lot in the short term. While some companies would be able to fork over the cash for the bots, lots of smaller companies might not be able to and while these companies might be paying more in the long term, it's easier just to pay a worker's salary in the moment. Due to a lot of local businesses being on the smaller side, which means they'll rely more on workers, I feel like there will still be jobs available. But what do I know.
@superfastmonkeysim5200
@superfastmonkeysim5200 2 жыл бұрын
@@71.218-westshed I agree mate! We don’t have crystal balls 🔮 but with a little logic it’s easy to see that most jobs will remain for some time. There will come a time when computing, software and tech will replace most of what we do day to day. But it’s a while off. And whilst I say we don’t have crystal balls” I also remember that in fact, my balls are fairly shinny. But hey, I don’t like to blow my own trumpet 😂😂
@71.218-westshed
@71.218-westshed 2 жыл бұрын
@@superfastmonkeysim5200 Yeah I think I got pretty good intuition though. Mainly it's due to past experiences of "we'll live in paradise or we'll live in heck on earth". From personal experience, I will say that a dystopia is just as likely to happen as a utopia and vice versa. This is why, like I said in earlier comment, that I'm skeptical about these apocalyptic claims. (EDIT: Did not realize when you meant your shiny balls, you meant your testicles.)
@superfastmonkeysim5200
@superfastmonkeysim5200 2 жыл бұрын
@@71.218-westshed 😂 sorry I was just being stupid 😂🔮. But yeah it totally agree. Can you image the changes we will see in the near future even. And beyond that the next 400 years. There’s no way anyone can predict where certain technologies, sciences or cultures will take take us. I think we are evolving or moving forward at a similar pace to tech in certain ways. As we bond with tech we are pulled along. Ideologically speaking we are all being dragged along, but we are changing. I believe the future is bright. People get hung up on the fear of the unknown. But unlike any other species we are built to thrive and survive. And we will. As long as we don’t loose heart. Or what it is to be human in the best of ways
@71.218-westshed
@71.218-westshed 2 жыл бұрын
@@superfastmonkeysim5200 This basically.
@chewyjello1
@chewyjello1 4 жыл бұрын
Now would be a great time to do another video on UBI
@QT5656
@QT5656 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please.
@MARLEYDIDIT
@MARLEYDIDIT 4 жыл бұрын
#YangGang because i've already lost jobs to AI & Automation in the last 2 years, it's only going to get worse ... *Make America Think Harder*
@mikelord93
@mikelord93 4 жыл бұрын
What people sadly don't want to acknowledge is that even if Ai doesn't take your job away, the people who lost their job will. You will either have to take a pay cut or job hunting
@bradharris1459
@bradharris1459 4 жыл бұрын
The irony is...America has been thinking harder; hence Automation and AI. Want to really make America think harder? Support a free market economy.
@NimbleBard48
@NimbleBard48 4 жыл бұрын
Make America Think Harder - MATH. Is that intentional?
@vanguyin
@vanguyin 4 жыл бұрын
@@NimbleBard48 yep
@tearlelee34
@tearlelee34 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you we are all in line for the 4th Industrial Revolution great displacement. Those who believe otherwise are afraid to face reality. Those robots at Walmart never request vacation or a raise.
@ColdWindPhoenix84
@ColdWindPhoenix84 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how unbiased you tried to make this. The last little bit seemed a little heavy handed, but overall very well played on a political topic for a channel not geared for political content.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. It's not even remotely unbiased. He intentionally used straw men and avoided the most obvious and compelling arguments against UBI.
@shadowgod1009
@shadowgod1009 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc Hmm, I didn't seem like it to me, maybe its because I dont know much about the arguments against UBI. Mind filling me in?
@astreinerboi
@astreinerboi 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc straw men are only bad in a deceiving fashion. He even explained why he chose to include them. Also he did include the arguments against it. If you want to add any other you can do so. This was pretty unbiased, and if you think this was biased maybe you should reevaluate your position.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
@@astreinerboi No, it wasn't remotely unbiased. He intentionally avoided the most obvious and compelling arguments against UBI. And I don't think you understand what a straw man is. It's a weak, easily defeated argument.
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
@@shadowgod1009 The most obvious argument against us the fact that the market will adjust and prices will increase while wages decrease, leaving the majority of people with the same purchasing power as they had before.
@Muuip
@Muuip 4 жыл бұрын
We should search to create/ build synergy between everyone's dreams, goals and ideals. Because this is what motivates us to help one another.
@kylezolper5848
@kylezolper5848 2 жыл бұрын
i just shared this first time ever in my life doing so great show keep it up you are amazing joe thx Kyle Z
@Voyager_AU
@Voyager_AU 4 жыл бұрын
I am really glad you covered this in detail as many people are misinformed on UBI.
@zephron28
@zephron28 4 жыл бұрын
Dear sir, I object to your broad and crass statement that we the people of the chat are hoodlums. We are not hoodlums but are in fact vagabonds. Yours with contempt Earl von Chat
@joescott
@joescott 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what a hoodlum would say.
@mrJMD
@mrJMD 4 жыл бұрын
@@joescott - RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! Also, harumph.
@TherealTenmanI
@TherealTenmanI 4 жыл бұрын
Forsooth. I don't know what that means, but FORSOOTH I say!
@chancelacina
@chancelacina 4 жыл бұрын
Bertrand Russell endorsed UBI as a "vagabond wage".
@shubhamdeshmukh1114
@shubhamdeshmukh1114 4 жыл бұрын
Well........ can't argue with that..!
@cynthiamarquez3370
@cynthiamarquez3370 3 жыл бұрын
If i had ubi, i would go back to school to upgrade my skill set.
@bikerfirefarter7280
@bikerfirefarter7280 3 жыл бұрын
you wont get it there. 'schools' are an industry run mainly to keep you just dumb enough to make you realise you are not smart, and thus to perpetuate the industry. by all means upgrade your skills. good luck with that. :-)
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 3 жыл бұрын
Why wait... you can go back right now with student loans or grants that do not need to be paid back. btw... UBI is nothing but a politician's bs sales pitch to get elected president. The inexperienced and those easily seduced by UBI always fail to ask the most important obvious question... Where exactly is the government going to get the billions/trillions of dollars needed (every year) to pay everyone a weekly UBI (lol) ???
@bikerfirefarter7280
@bikerfirefarter7280 3 жыл бұрын
@@__WJK__ or the 'billions/trillions' for the 'grants and loans' that you also 'don't have to pay back'. sheeple need to wake the fuck up. why 'go back to school' to upgrade skill-sets that in the vast instance are either useless or outdated and just perpetuate the illusion.
@yinoxa3208
@yinoxa3208 2 жыл бұрын
@@bikerfirefarter7280 lol 'sheeple' what do you live on facebook lol.
@bikerfirefarter7280
@bikerfirefarter7280 2 жыл бұрын
@@yinoxa3208 I don't 'facebook', have no need/interest, don't ever intend to. Got a life. Thanks. ;-)
@jsouth5577
@jsouth5577 Жыл бұрын
if we've learned anything in the years since this video was made - its that we'd have to put a cap on how much companies could increase their prices/rent/etc before we'd ever be safe using UBI. Otherwise the price of eggs would be - well, we've seen that and all the UBI would be doing was lining corporate pockets instead of helping wider society. Cap first, fairly - but cap. THEN UBI would be a lot more helpful.
@claytonbarham8755
@claytonbarham8755 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest reservation about UBI is, if income goes up $12K a year across the board, what's to stop cost of living from going up $12K a year as well, as rents go up and groceries and other goods get more expensive to take advantage of the extra money their customers now have?
@jameslovallo9603
@jameslovallo9603 2 жыл бұрын
This is my fear as well. What's to stop this from speeding up inflation? Would the government have to set limits on prices for things?
@81brassglass79
@81brassglass79 2 жыл бұрын
That's right. This is just a ploy to grab more power for the government.
@CharlesBryan1
@CharlesBryan1 4 жыл бұрын
If Mr. Yang's scheme on raising money for UBI, then I say we should do it. I definitely would use the extra cash to start a business.
@HarshColby
@HarshColby 4 жыл бұрын
There are investors in every city that will lend money to start a new business. You'd have to pitch it and convince them it's a good idea, but if a savvy investor doesn't think your idea is a good one, then perhaps it's not. Google angel investors and investment clubs. For example, it's extremely common that people will lend you money for real estate investments.
@ollee6361
@ollee6361 4 жыл бұрын
@@HarshColby Theres a big difference between having extra money and getting a loan lol
@benjawoui7319
@benjawoui7319 4 жыл бұрын
what kind of buisness, if it'snt indiscrete?
@HarshColby
@HarshColby 4 жыл бұрын
@@ollee6361 Investors know it's risky. They'll want a percentage return commensurate with the risk. If it doesn't work out, you don't need to pay the investor back. If you do make money, then you pay what's owed per the agreement. For example, I started a software company. They loaned me $1M. It didn't work out and I had $600k left of their money. I gave the $600k back and that was that. Venture capital companies and angel investors will explain the terms of the agreement. You take as much risk as you're willing, and no more.
@bradharris1459
@bradharris1459 4 жыл бұрын
Charles Bryan why not preach massive tax cuts and reduction in government? Use that money, the money you earned and get to keep, to start a business?
@munkybeater
@munkybeater 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. I learn so much here.
@volta2aire
@volta2aire 4 жыл бұрын
11:32 Yang mentioned.
@mwreaves
@mwreaves 4 жыл бұрын
Ask the AI to run a simulation on the UBI
@TheJaredtheJaredlong
@TheJaredtheJaredlong 4 жыл бұрын
Have the AI administer it. Like, why not?
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
I know you're being partly facetious, but the idea that we should monkey around with macro economics in such a massive way without even bothering to model it is absolutely preposterous. Who tests in prod?
@matthewrawls1184
@matthewrawls1184 4 жыл бұрын
It's 2019. The last thing that anyone should ever be worried about is having the basics such as shelter, food, water, and access to societal required technologies like telephones, computers, and the internet. I am all for UBI. Also, I have no problems with people "abusing" it. What I mean is, what kind of a world do we live in where the measure of a person is how much "work" they perform? What about artists, thinkers, writers, and inventors? There is a lot of talent and good ideas being wasted or undeveloped because just about everyone has to "work for a living". How have we still not learned the most basic lessons from the agricultural and industrial revolutions; that is, how freeing as many humans as possible from basic labor has allowed new ideas and technologies to flourish that end up helping everyone? And ultimately, if someone wants to just sit around and watch television all day long on their UBI - who cares? I believe that UBI would be far more of a benefit to everyone.
@morosis82
@morosis82 4 жыл бұрын
The thing I think about is whether it will be worse than now. I mean, lots of people already game the system, and the more weird rules you add the easier you make it to game the system. This redirects the energy used to game the system for a subsistence paycheck into potentially something useful. I mean, let's be real here: this is $1000/m. I ain't quitting my 6 figure salary for this, though I might be able to do some interesting study on robotics and maybe start a small business with it.
@matthewrawls1184
@matthewrawls1184 4 жыл бұрын
@@morosis82 Plus there is absolutely nothing preventing people from donating their extra money from UBI to a charity or to help others. I also don't need the UBI but it would be great to save that money in case I lose my job. With the amount of money that corporations do not pay in taxes and the obnoxiously excessive pay that many CEOs and executives make a UBI would be a good way to force some of that money to get to people that truly need it.
@Feedmaster420
@Feedmaster420 4 жыл бұрын
How can you abuse it if everybody gets the same amount of money?
@matthewrawls1184
@matthewrawls1184 4 жыл бұрын
@@Feedmaster420 My only guess on what "abusing" it would mean - and this is a stretch - is if someone spent their monthly UBI allotment on drugs or gambling instead of using the money for housing or food but anyone doing that has problems much bigger than "abusing" their UBI but whatever someone decides to spend their UBI money on is ultimately their business anyway. I think it would add way too much cost to try and provide oversight to such a program (except for the obvious minimal requirements such as making sure that crooks aren't receiving UBI that should be going to someone else, or collecting UBI money from someone who is deceased, etc.). I guess I really don't understand how this could be "abused" since everybody would be receiving it. I do know that the implementation would certainly become highly politicized and controversial as there are still a lot of questions left unanswered regarding who should be receiving the payments, if a universal government ID would be required to receive the payments, how to get the payments to certain individuals, etc. but nothing that is insurmountable - maybe just piggback on the already existing social security infrastructure?
@jacojoubert12
@jacojoubert12 3 жыл бұрын
I'm concerned that inflation might cause the UBI amount to basically become the new 0. Any thoughts on that? If the amount stays sufficient for basic living expenses, perhaps by regulating the prices of certain things, I'd say go for it. Also, regulate the price of a Neuralink insertion. ;-)
@gregtracy9322
@gregtracy9322 2 жыл бұрын
That's been exactly my thought since I first heard of Yang's platform. The government injects money into society artificially by giving the same amount to everyone. Some will save, most will spend. The fact that so much cash is being put into circulation, and needs to be paid for somewhere tells me that it will come in the form of higher taxes for the favorite source of liberal concepts, the "rich" or business. The rich will do what they do, because they can, and move money, divert assets, change investments to lessen their burden. Business will do what they HAVE to do when faced with higher costs (taxes), raise prices. Higher prices offset the stipend and now you're back at square one.
@jaythehulkmoeller6648
@jaythehulkmoeller6648 4 жыл бұрын
Its not left! Its not right! Its forward with Andrew Yang 2024! Let's show the world why America can be the greatest country on earth!!
@CartoonManWhoo
@CartoonManWhoo 4 жыл бұрын
If I had a UBI I would fulfill my dreams of opening a cat shelter in my small town.
@damonguzman
@damonguzman 4 жыл бұрын
Reasons like this that I don't support UBI. Wasting my tax dollars
@no-prophet
@no-prophet 4 жыл бұрын
@@damonguzman How exactly is an animal shelter a waste of tax dollars?
@damonguzman
@damonguzman 4 жыл бұрын
@@no-prophet If you want to make a business out of it, draft a business model and find investors or fund it yourself. Don't charge me to fund your dream.
@no-prophet
@no-prophet 4 жыл бұрын
@@damonguzman Animal shelters aren't for-profit businesses, at least they shouldn't be. They're meant to keep animals off the streets so they're beneficial for all and they should be tax funded because of that. OP probably doesn't have one in his/her town.
@no-prophet
@no-prophet 4 жыл бұрын
@@damonguzman On the other hand, if someone makes a for-profit business from basic income money they'll be taxed on it and you'll get your basic income money from their money. So, a win-win?
@fredchung9300
@fredchung9300 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I was waiting for. You have the most thorough and level headed way of presenting complex ideas. Made my day.
@gabrielonibudo5710
@gabrielonibudo5710 4 жыл бұрын
It was level headed but not really thorough he pretty much bullet pointed statements he read off Wikipedia without much thought.
@bradh3292
@bradh3292 4 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielonibudo5710 link or source? #BurnJoe
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
He didn't present any of the more substantive and obvious criticisms of UBI.
@jmanius1
@jmanius1 4 жыл бұрын
@@chopinbloc like? (just curious, not challenging)
@chopinbloc
@chopinbloc 4 жыл бұрын
@@jmanius1 The obvious fact that prices will adjust upwards to compensate and most people will be left with the same amount of buying power they had before. It also provides an excuse for employers looking to pay less.
@imaflymydroneatit
@imaflymydroneatit 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy how much has changed since you posted this.
@clintonjones955
@clintonjones955 3 жыл бұрын
Good Job, JOE How did we get here? (rhetorical question) ... 1850 (value system) ...DAYRATE (labor) $1.00 ...COST LOAD (food) $0.01 (1# bag of chocolate) MATH 100 / 1 1850 COSTS NECESSITIES FOOD: 10% SHELTER: 10% SAVINGS: 80% ...HORSE: 10% (transportation) ...WEAPON: 10% (security) ...CLOTHES: 10% ...ENTERTAINMENT: 10% (after shifter snifter) ...VACATION: 10% ...SAVINGS: 30% (misc) ..................APPLY THIS TABLE TODAY (2020) FOOD 30% SHELTER 50% SAVINGS: 20% .................GOVERNMENT TAXATION: 50%+ INCOME TAX: 30% FICA 20% MEDICAL 20% if the minimum wage were indexed to the inflation rate it would be around $25- per hour today (2020) ...IMHO: the real killer is INSURANCE ...overlapping coverages /with deductibles ..................BEST CASE SCENARIO: UBI $1- per hour (deposited after midnight) = $24- per day = $720-per month = $8640-per year PLUS: $10,000- TREASURY BOND (at birth) matures at age 21 PLUS: one acre of land at birth The government acts as if it owns us ...yet they have never paid a dime for any of us (or the land that we live on) we are assets (Patented like land) yet they depend upon parents to raise and pay for their assets) an incentive to produce more taxpaying citizens is necessary
@icaruscarinae
@icaruscarinae 4 жыл бұрын
So...I started saying this as a joke about ten years ago...but let's replace politicians with AI.
@tearlelee34
@tearlelee34 4 жыл бұрын
We need to transition to a society where we simply apply the proven problem solving methodology the Scientific Method.
@icaruscarinae
@icaruscarinae 4 жыл бұрын
@@tearlelee34 In this regard Science is like religion, for most, if it matches someone's preconceived ideas then they tout it on high, otherwise tis terrible and faulty logic needs to be used to shred it.
@PaddyPatrone
@PaddyPatrone 4 жыл бұрын
just imagine the rulemaker would be an AI. The country with the best AI wins.... right ?
@tearlelee34
@tearlelee34 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaddyPatrone You are correct when Deep Mind defeated the Go champion China dedicated unlimited resources to AI in response. Other countries followed suit. The end is near for primate's. People fail to grasp how much money is being invested in AI.
@theman4884
@theman4884 4 жыл бұрын
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." - Thomas Sowell
@BitOBear
@BitOBear 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the horror of letting people out of the workforce if they don't want to work. Imagine _not_ being stuck taking up the slack for someone who's promised to pull their weight but then don't. Imagine if every useless person at your job was replaced by someone who wanted it to be there. Sign me up. I'm old, and tired of the people who show up but don't then do their part at all because they'd rather be surfing or whatever.
@maxmouche
@maxmouche 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@sgenaosg
@sgenaosg 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the horror when you and the rest of those that want to work pay 100 percent of the UBI for those that dont want to work while the companies who used to provide their wages are let off scott free and only have hard working employees to shoulder the burden and improve the company's profits
@BitOBear
@BitOBear 4 жыл бұрын
@@sgenaosg :: Imagine the horror when you discover that you don't make enough money to be counted as "rich enough" for your marginal tax rate to change. And your further horror at having your medicare and medicade taxes reduced because the incidence of people running to the ER with festering infections are instead incidences of people getting $10 worth of antibiotics. Imagine your further still horror of reduced taxes by not having to individually fund the entire welfare system "anti cheat" machinery because nobody has to "qualify" and so nobody has to check and police those applications and nobody else has to individually analyze every case. Imagine a systematic change will have a systematic follow-on effect that isn't just an imaginary "new" burden but a reshuffling of existing costs with a net improvement of all activities. If you want to pretend that civil society is a zero-sum game you have to include _all_ the sums.
@genderfluids6448
@genderfluids6448 4 жыл бұрын
@@sgenaosg There's always going to be suckers in this world. It's no different than the system we have now. Relax, let them do the work and enjoy the ride.
@maxmouche
@maxmouche 4 жыл бұрын
@@sgenaosg Except that those hard workers will ALSO get UBI so no matter what they will be better off than those who choose not to work. It's really not a difficult concept to understand. EVERYONE gets it, even Bill Gates. You don't want to work? Fine, you'll have to live with $1000 a month. You want to work? Fine, you'll get $1000 a month PLUS whatever income you get from your job. It's really that simple...
@ozzyfromspace
@ozzyfromspace 3 жыл бұрын
You handled this now-political discussion so perfectly, Joe! How did you do it?! Well done 👍🏽 ❤️
@MacInTheBox
@MacInTheBox 7 ай бұрын
I was really hoping you'd be one of the few people who talk about this who'd address the negative economic impact UBI could have... I think it'd basically be instant inflation. Everyone has $1000 more a month now than they did in 19XX but everything also costs % more. Why wouldn't that just happen with UBI?
@dreamdiscounts
@dreamdiscounts 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, except I wouldn't define Yang as a single issue candidate.
@gfdia35
@gfdia35 4 жыл бұрын
Well clearly you haven’t gone to his website he’s got over 80 issues on his platform but his biggest is ubi,
@napatora
@napatora 4 жыл бұрын
this idea that these nonskilled or entry level jobs are "for teenagers" is incredibly priveleged. it's the working poor who will suffer most from the automation of those jobs which is why UBI is so important. the kids working part time summer jobs will be fine without them. the people working 2 or even 3 of these jobs just to get by will not.
@rutessian
@rutessian 4 жыл бұрын
kids don't need to learn work ethics or responsibility.
@napatora
@napatora 4 жыл бұрын
@@rutessian that's not relevant at all to what i'm saying. my point is people like to say "oh those jobs are for teenagers" when in reality the vast majority of people working those jobs are working poor or barely above the poverty line. it's the same argument used against raising the minimum wage and it's nonsense.
@stevebruns1833
@stevebruns1833 4 жыл бұрын
Also, a lot of formerly well paying jobs have been "Walmarted" as butchers, bakers, etc., have been turned into minimum-wage/part-time ones.
@pistolshrimp6252
@pistolshrimp6252 4 жыл бұрын
@@napatora they are for teenagers. do you know the origins of minimum wage? it was meant to keep employer from hiring black people for cheap and to alleviate White unemployment. The purpose of minimum wage was meant to get african-american and white American to be paid at the same rate. If you were an African American in the 1900s, you were five times more likely to be Employed than a White Americans. But that's not the point. These part- time Jobs aren't meant to support families. Their ment for high school and college student. Rising the Minimum wage hurts these people because they won't be able to hire more people. Instead of getting paid $15 an hour, you get paid 0 dollars an hour, because most of these people you're trying to 'help' end up getting fired, or forced to work less hours.
@russellstephan6844
@russellstephan6844 4 жыл бұрын
One would really have to be stupid to think minimum wage and UBI improved people's wealth positions and then wait around for the government to implement the notions. Get together with a dozen or more like-minded economic interventionists (the Internet should allow one to do this in ten seconds), and implement it yourselves. Each agree to be employed by another 40 hours a week paid this minimum wage. Those of the group not wanting to work will be funded by a tax placed on the whole of the group (UBI). For the sake of simplicity, let's say everyone is a go-getter and willing to work. Now, every two weeks double the minimum wage y'all pay each other. Hell, in under a year y'all be Warren Buffet rich! If scarcity has some magic short circuit, there would be no want or need. Sad to say, such a notion is as impossible as a perpetual motion machine.
@sylvainbradford1575
@sylvainbradford1575 4 жыл бұрын
A better "Future World" by sharing resources and investing in humans sounds so good that I decided to share this tube on the Facebook group "Future World"!
@jellyellie242
@jellyellie242 8 ай бұрын
to your point about our welfare system discouraging people from working: that’s absolutely true. i grew up in this system and it keeps poor people poor. i have horrible memories of my mom doing the math down to the dollar of exactly how much more she could earn before we lost our benefits. but if we lost our benefits, no amount of work she could do would be enough to bridge the gap and fully support us. so she continually had to cap her income so we didn’t lose our assistance, keeping us poor.
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