Is Valencia Doomed?

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Zealand

Zealand

Жыл бұрын

Valencia is in trouble. The historic club in La Liga is now on the brink of much more than relegation, its towering debt has been buoyed by a billionaire owner who appears to have lost interest, or worse, may be milking the club for all it’s worth to stay afloat himself. It’s a nasty situation that is becoming all too common in the modern game.
I hope for the sake of the fans there is a quick resolution, but I’m not too quick to jump on the ‘trash the owner’ boat, the situation is complicated and may be a something out of the ownership groups control. The Peter Lim group might have already jumped on a sinking ship and just kept it from sinking a bit longer.
Much Love,
The Zealand
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► the Athletic
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► Sports Gazette
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► Sport
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► Daily Mail
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@Reaper_ginger
@Reaper_ginger Жыл бұрын
Voro is like that one substitute teacher you’ve had at every grade level
@JimTheFly
@JimTheFly Жыл бұрын
*guitar chord*
@javimyrvel
@javimyrvel Жыл бұрын
Hey Z! Valencia season ticket holder here, and Big fan of the Channel. Thank you for letting the world know about our current situation, these are sad days for a club that is more than 100 years old. Love from Spain
@jameswg13
@jameswg13 Жыл бұрын
Is the club shop permanently shut or something. Went to get something the other day and it said it was closed. Was only in port for a day though
@javimyrvel
@javimyrvel Жыл бұрын
@@jameswg13 It should be open everyday from 11-20h. I don't know if they have different opening hours for easter, though
@jameswg13
@jameswg13 Жыл бұрын
@@javimyrvel ah might have been it. I'm not back there till near the end of the year and even then on a Sunday which means they will he shut then
@MarianoGallicchio
@MarianoGallicchio Жыл бұрын
whatever happen, don't let bragarnik enter the club. He's destroying elche now.
@TyEats0031
@TyEats0031 Жыл бұрын
Peter Lims daughter sounds like a piece of shit.
@thenortherncampaign6474
@thenortherncampaign6474 Жыл бұрын
I had to give this a thumbs up simply for the consistent Voro interludes. 😂
@Zpice
@Zpice Жыл бұрын
*Guitar chord*
@Taalsman
@Taalsman Жыл бұрын
Valencia hired Gary Neville as Manager, the biggest crime of them all.
@teambringit01
@teambringit01 Жыл бұрын
How sad, I'm in year 6 of my FM22 save as Valencia, Lims out and we finally moved into the new finished ground. I much prefer my fantasy save over this reality.
@LupusImmortalis
@LupusImmortalis Жыл бұрын
How long did it take for Lim to leave?
@teambringit01
@teambringit01 Жыл бұрын
@@LupusImmortalis I think year four
@michaelburdge2748
@michaelburdge2748 Жыл бұрын
thats a strange coincidence, I'm 10 years into my Valencia save and it was about year 4 that Lim left for me as well! Hope it happens irl soon
@ericsohn5084
@ericsohn5084 Жыл бұрын
Still got Kang?
@teambringit01
@teambringit01 Жыл бұрын
@@ericsohn5084 no, but I don't think he was on the team when I started the save. Still have Gaya, Guedes, Soler and Musah thou
@pablotamarit6683
@pablotamarit6683 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for talking about the situation of the club I support. During this last 10 years, we have been subjected to constant suffering due to the chaotic decisions that Peter Lim has taken.
@stephanosmessios6737
@stephanosmessios6737 Жыл бұрын
Ever since I went to Valencia 2018, I fell in love with the city and the club, I literally learned everything I could about them, visited the stadium, and adopted them as my Spanish team. So yeah, seeing what's happened to them makes me very upset and angered that Tebas (the utter prick) hasn't stepped in to do something about his pillaging of the club. How can you fire a great coach like Marcelino and basically force Parejo to leave on a free? A bullshit state of affairs for such a great club.
@Eibarwoman
@Eibarwoman Жыл бұрын
The answer is probably that Lim has some dirt that would get rid of Tebas least we'd have seen one of the two if not both ousted.
@quicocatala5611
@quicocatala5611 Жыл бұрын
Parejo’s transfer was bullshit but actually Marcelino was ousted because he was taking commissions from some signings and he was warned but he kept doing it so he was fired in the end, still quite a loss though.
@wackiechan300
@wackiechan300 Жыл бұрын
​@@Eibarwoman it's nothing that deep. Tebas is just a corrupt old fart that refuses to go away. He doesn't have a good opinion on anything but always says stuff to stay in the spotlight. Very likely to get another term while he is doing absolutely nothing to improve the league.
@CharlesOffdensen
@CharlesOffdensen Жыл бұрын
Dani Parejo was a sad story. They made him to Villarreal of all places. Talents like Lee Kang-in were let go, too. It's because of stories like this, that the Bundesliga has the 50+1 rule.
@calamorta
@calamorta 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's a good reason. I still wish someone could acquire Dortmund to make it truly stand up to Bayern, though 😔
@marcossenna4612
@marcossenna4612 5 ай бұрын
It’s still weird seeing Parejo with a Villarreal jersey
@alexedwards9214
@alexedwards9214 Жыл бұрын
It’s worth mentioning that Peter Lims transfer policy is to buy players represented by Jorge Mendes (who Lim is in business with) at hugely inflated prices and thus taking money out of the club and into his friends pockets. LIMVETEYA!
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere Жыл бұрын
Mendes has agreements like this at many clubs and none of it is beneficial to football. Even mourinho did it, bringing Dalot to united with no real intention of using him, at a hugely inflated fee.
@warsaw158
@warsaw158 Жыл бұрын
wtf jorge mendes is everyone manager
@Chengyuan79
@Chengyuan79 Жыл бұрын
Singaporean here. Maybe just an explanation on how most bosses here behave ... Or maybe not. His daughter's messages showed how they think. "We are the bosses. We do what we want, because we are rich (and you are not)." Literally "why people cannot understand that WE ARE THE OWNERS". They literally think that just because of this, they can do anything they want, and yet when consequences hit, they dodged them with more scapegoats ... And when there are scapegoats, it is never their fault. "The entire world is wrong, I am right." The frightening part about this ironically funny statement is how the local bosses really believe so. So, a few comments here on how Peter Lim would keep the club purely out of spite at this point is true. Deep sigh ... 😮‍💨
@nicholastricarico2957
@nicholastricarico2957 Жыл бұрын
This also clearly shows that they don't understand sports. On a spiritual level, clubs/teams belong to the fans.
@Lucksh007t
@Lucksh007t Жыл бұрын
Just give voro the job at this point
@theczechdude5655
@theczechdude5655 Жыл бұрын
Bald Z best Z
@moralfo0109
@moralfo0109 Жыл бұрын
As a long time Valencia fan, what the club've gone through in recent years breaks my heart.
@thespeculum785
@thespeculum785 10 ай бұрын
How are they lookin this year?
@kaapoh678
@kaapoh678 8 ай бұрын
This season start has been pretty good but it wont last long@@thespeculum785
@alexandercody6652
@alexandercody6652 Жыл бұрын
American who fell in love with this club when they had villa and Silva. No idea situation was this bad. Hoping for the best!
@ricardomartins9070
@ricardomartins9070 Жыл бұрын
Before trying to buy Valencia, he tried to buy Porto. Looks like they dodged a big bullet
@micas290
@micas290 Жыл бұрын
Não consegues comprar clubes portugueses sendo que não sao um todo, terias que comprar a sad e depois ir a eleições e ganhar essas eleições e so depois de mudares os estatutos é que conseguias fundir a sad e o clube num so como ha noutros paises
@psibrunojusto
@psibrunojusto Жыл бұрын
@@micas290 o Valencia é um s.a.d. também
@micas290
@micas290 Жыл бұрын
@@psibrunojusto sim mas é diferente de como funciona em portugal
@EliasRoy
@EliasRoy Жыл бұрын
Benfica and Sporting fans would've enjoyed that purchase 😜
@aqeel-3771
@aqeel-3771 8 ай бұрын
No shit 😅😅😅.
@djdimapasoc7988
@djdimapasoc7988 Жыл бұрын
Loved Valencia back in the David Villa, Baraja, Mata, David Silva, Ayala era.
@roryslaine7896
@roryslaine7896 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the likes of Joaquin, Vicente, David Albelda and Marchena too! They had such a tasty squad in some of the Football Managers. The only downside was their budget, so you couldn't improve the team and often got raided by bigger clubs!
@nicolasrecupero3026
@nicolasrecupero3026 Жыл бұрын
Cañizares, pellegrino, aurelio, aimar...so many memories...even for an argie
@Offical_FutCT
@Offical_FutCT 11 ай бұрын
@@nicolasrecupero3026 memories, memories, memories....
@MystClips
@MystClips Жыл бұрын
Valencia before Simeone's arrival they had the 3rd highest point tally of all time in la Liga. Since the 2000s, 2 LaLigas, 2 Champions League finals (1 lost in penalties to Bayern), won the UEFA Cup (Liga+UEFA double), a few Copas del Rey and a regular in European competitions. For a short while Valencia felt like a more attractive option for some players than Barcelona to sign to, having World Class players, but during Mourinho-Guardiola era it felt like they had cemented themself as a valid 3rd place team, as financial issues ramped up, creating a "stagnation" that led to title races being a thing of the past. It kind of reminded me of the Dortmund or Schalke of the Bundesliga, I just hope it doesnt follow through with going down like Schalke did... They had a stadium being built that would have 72k capacity to capitalise on their success and massive fanbase but its been paralised since 2009 half way through the build. Now there is talks of downgrading its design and capacity by like 10-15k and remove the plans for an underground parking lot (which makes the project feel kind of redundant) just to continue the build because obvious the city council has complained about the massive ruins of cement in middle of the beautiful city... An interesting Story is that the Prince of Johor, who basically created the most successful football team in Malaysia and is close to Peter Lim, showed repeated serious intentions of BUYING the club off Lim, watching matches at the stadium and posting about the legacy, history of the club, how beautiful the city is and how he would like to contribute to its success on his Instagram. However, after talks with Lim, the posibility of the takeover seemed to have vanished out of nowhere, either because of the incredibly strict Financial regulations imposed in LaLiga on clubs, making spending very restrictive, specially if these clubs are managing a debt, such as Barcelona or Valencia; or because he was straight up rejected by Lim because he refused to let go of "his asset". I guess thats what the Worst Owners possible for almost 10 years, bad owners prior to Lim, bad dealing with debt plus other financial issues and HORRIBLY intrusive punishing LaLiga financial restrictions by Tebas does to a club that could and should 100% be in Atletico Madrid's position competing alongside them :(
@rodrygonutifafa
@rodrygonutifafa Жыл бұрын
the best the fans can do now is not buy tickets and merchandise or boycott games to force them to sale the club cause you are definitely getting relegated this season
@aodhanjone9690
@aodhanjone9690 Жыл бұрын
As a Singaporean i say he aint really liked here either. Valencia was just used as his backup plan when it was reported Liverpool was Lim only one club he wanted and he did Bid before FSG bought liverpool. He isnt a football fan just a dude looking to make investments.
@peterlee6148
@peterlee6148 Жыл бұрын
Kim lim divorced twice.
@GVike
@GVike Жыл бұрын
A gambler, basically
@augustovargas4882
@augustovargas4882 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, however I think you missed one of the most important parts of the story, which is the influence of agent Jorge Mendes on the club's downfall. He is Lim's friend and he often shows how much control he has over the transfer policy or even the club's structure, you only have to check transfermarkt to see the amount of players brought in and sold by Mendes and his associates, sometimes even ignoring failed medical tests just to get that millionaire commision. Mendes also gives advice to Lim on how to handle the situation inside the club and it is very likely that he was behind Marcelino and Mateu Alemany's (who is now a hero at Barça) firing due to them not wanting to sign some players they were told to. Now it seems like Lim just wants to destroy the club out of pure resentment, as he decided to end a champions league project losing hundreds of millions of euros and does not want to invest in the club either. Also, former president Anil Murthy was an alcoholic that ridiculised the club in front of other presidents countless times.
@lutjemuller9753
@lutjemuller9753 Жыл бұрын
showing the Bremen relegation at the end... That hurt. I still remember when Werder played Valencia in the UCL KO stage. My father should still have a custom matchday hat, one side was the VCF logo, the other SVW logo. Good times, good times....
@Milak96
@Milak96 Жыл бұрын
Message of the video : Find someone who wants to invest his time and life in you like Voro in Valencia
@jaelenhounsell
@jaelenhounsell Жыл бұрын
Voro is nothing but a Pawn for lim at this point.
@ahmadag1820
@ahmadag1820 Жыл бұрын
@@jaelenhounsell he seems to have a good recoed every time he has managed i don't he isn't permanenr.
@Rakettivuori
@Rakettivuori Жыл бұрын
Interesting to note, Peter Lim owns half of Salford City, so he appointed his own minority owner as the manager at Valencia
@yaboykirby7789
@yaboykirby7789 Жыл бұрын
he's one corrupt muhfugger
@BigPurp9
@BigPurp9 Жыл бұрын
To be fair to him Neville was always touted as one of Fergie’s smartest players and the one he always said would have a good managerial career. I still think he just bit off more than he could chew and if he’d started off taking a low key job in the lower leagues he’d still be a manager now. If Lim had just given Beckham or Scholes the job then I’d say it’s 100% nepotism 😂
@finding_aether
@finding_aether Жыл бұрын
Smart people do not nessesarily become good man managers.
@BigPurp9
@BigPurp9 Жыл бұрын
@@finding_aether no but reading the game is a vitally important attribute. I remember Fergie saying that there were times where Neville would spot things the opposition were doing and suggest tweaks even before his assistant coaches had. I’m not saying he would have been the next Pep, just that I don’t think he’s this “worst manager of all time” label he currently has 😂
@finding_aether
@finding_aether Жыл бұрын
@@BigPurp9 but its not just about tactics. You need to get the player's respect which I think Neville's personality will be hard to get (as a manager... not as a pundit).. i don't think he is the type that will be able to get players to run thru brick walls for him. This is not a slight on him. I don't doubt that he can be a good scout, analyst or coach. But to be a manager is different. I think T.Henry (who i feel has a similar personality to G.Neville) found that out as he was loved as a coach but not so loved as a manager. Fergie himself admit he is not the best at tactics and often left the training to coaches. But he was one of the all-time greats at man managing and strategizing for Man Utd.
@hanneswurstbrot6902
@hanneswurstbrot6902 Жыл бұрын
i´m sitting here in germany and wondering how many of these foreign clubs in the big leagues actually have barcelona level debts. man i´m glad our clubs are at least "somewhat" required to have a balanced budged.
@jnca98
@jnca98 Жыл бұрын
the problem is that Tebas arrived and put the most restrictive policy about this in all Europe. But whats the point of creating a system to prevent losses when you were years and years permiting Bartomeu, Lim, etc spending without limits? There wasnt a problem in 2018 when Barcelona and Valencia were spending a lot, but now you are so restrictive with them. Worse the remedy than the disease
@hanneswurstbrot6902
@hanneswurstbrot6902 Жыл бұрын
@@jnca98 a first step has to be made. it could have been barca back then or valencia now. the question that i ask myself is: do they want to wait till it comes out that half the league is bankrupt or do they make a press conference now and tell the league. "Listen fellas, there is something called financial fair play, and we implement it. If by 2025 your club does not meet the requirements you´re going to be punished hard. If it´s like the known examples barca, valencia prepare yourself to be relegated. Let it be known that we don´t make examples for big clubs if you don´t meet the requirements you´re out. there´s plenty of clubs in the secunda devision that will take your place gladly so get your finance in order."
@jnca98
@jnca98 Жыл бұрын
@@hanneswurstbrot6902 ur talking about the future, but that is happenning now. Tebas did that what you said and now we are in this situation and not just with Barça and Valencia. Madrid fans are complaining low spent despite recent wins. Betis sold Bartra to Turkey bc of his wage.... I mean... BARTRA. Atlético is also struggling... All La Liga is spending less than ever The problem with that point is that u think chairmans care about his team future... Bartomeu knew he wasnt going to be in Barça when all exploded, Valencia is not even 10% of Lim patrimony, etc. Your point is "bread for today, hunger for tomorrow", but they dont care and thats not fair for fans who still Also, I think no one in Europe does this, not Italy, not Germany, not England. Barça is mediatic, but ask an Oviedo fan, for example, this is happenning everywhere in Spain. If this happened in England, Livpool would be also seriously affected by this absurd restrictive fair play who is already not working. And I dont even want to talk about covid and CVC
@BigPurp9
@BigPurp9 Жыл бұрын
@@jnca98 better late than never tbh. Obviously clubs are still businesses and businesses do go under, but clubs the size of Valencia shouldn’t have those issues.
@jnca98
@jnca98 Жыл бұрын
@@BigPurp9 better never, that was my point
@Draddar
@Draddar Жыл бұрын
So you're saying Valencia as my next save 🤔 I love these behind the scenes stories, things I'd otherwise never know about but do find very interesting.
@matthijs8702
@matthijs8702 Жыл бұрын
Peter Lim main reason to buy Valencia was also rumoured to be property development, Thats why he tried to build a new stadium but then it fell through because of commercial rights or not being viable anymore
@jaelenhounsell
@jaelenhounsell Жыл бұрын
But the thing was the half-built stadium was already there before he bought us. The real reason he bought us was that we were the biggest club available to buy at the time.
@ChrisHockman
@ChrisHockman Жыл бұрын
That happened to my home club, Central Coast Mariners too
@apexmobiledontdie
@apexmobiledontdie Жыл бұрын
@@jaelenhounsell yea cos the loser couldn’t buy liverpool. He tried hard to get liverpool
@JimmyNDriver
@JimmyNDriver Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of football fans don’t realise quite what a huge football club Valencia are. I remember growing up watching them win La Liga, make back-to-back Champions League finals and have legendary players like Canizares, Mendieta, Aimar... Mestalla is an iconic stadium too and absolutely on my bucket list. Hope they can survive and get back to where they belong. 🦇
@nicholastricarico2957
@nicholastricarico2957 Жыл бұрын
I saw one person say that Graham Potter should manage Valencia. I felt like that Valencia is too big of a club for him. It's a shame that Peter Lim had made it seem like that isn't the case.
@plusultra6199
@plusultra6199 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholastricarico2957 He can't be worse than Garry Neville!
@nicholastricarico2957
@nicholastricarico2957 Жыл бұрын
@@plusultra6199 That's like saying a garbage man can't be a worse pet sitter than Cruella de Vil. Not exactly a high standard.
@plusultra6199
@plusultra6199 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholastricarico2957Graham Potter at least did well at Brighton. Gary had no right to get that job as he had zero experience.
@gheezy1913
@gheezy1913 Жыл бұрын
Feel very sorry for Valencia I’m an Everton and we are in the same struggle we will succeed and I love this Voro fella
@Xanoriz
@Xanoriz Жыл бұрын
Remember a Valencia team with: Santiago Cañizares, Roberto Ayala, Carlos Marchena, David Albelda, Miguel Ángel Angulo, Vicente, Aimar, David Villa. Such a fun save in the CM/FM earlier era.
@Willem-dd1fe
@Willem-dd1fe Жыл бұрын
And David Silva, or am I wrong?
@calvinlee9252
@calvinlee9252 Жыл бұрын
as a Singaporean - and someone who had a soft spot for Valenica (supports Newcastle, hence the Rafa link is there) its really sad to see Peter Lim destroying this club.. honestly he isnt highly regarded here in SG.. but his PR game is very "good"
@chrisgoblin4857
@chrisgoblin4857 Жыл бұрын
Rafa
@anon-zk6iz
@anon-zk6iz 12 күн бұрын
Howay the lads
@Debeul
@Debeul Жыл бұрын
I miss the old Valencia what a great squad was that! With the likes of Albelda, Canizares, Baraja, what an awesome team was that. And what an awesome jerseys! I miss those days , same for Deportivo !
@treacheroustiger5571
@treacheroustiger5571 Жыл бұрын
Sad to hear a club who produced such youth talents like David Sliva and Isco are suffering like this 😢
@JGL98
@JGL98 Жыл бұрын
Isco came from Malaga
@ajisaputra-nii6279
@ajisaputra-nii6279 Жыл бұрын
Also Juan Mata
@treacheroustiger5571
@treacheroustiger5571 Жыл бұрын
@@JGL98 He joined Malaga, but came from The Valencia reserves.
@treacheroustiger5571
@treacheroustiger5571 Жыл бұрын
@@ajisaputra-nii6279 how could I forget such a legend!
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz Жыл бұрын
Jordi Alba and many more
@JiggyMiggytv
@JiggyMiggytv Жыл бұрын
The Daughters attitude says A LOT.
@t.c.4321
@t.c.4321 Жыл бұрын
Voro is a legend.
@naville82
@naville82 Жыл бұрын
Valencia getting relegated would be shocking! Never seen them get relegated in 33 years ive watched La Liga. Its literally Spains 4th biggest club historically 1. Real Madrid 2. Barcelona 3. Atletico Madrid They were a consistent top 4 to top 6 team for multiple decades and competed for the title more than a dozen times. Has literally the 4th biggest fan base in Spain after the big 3. This team should be competing for top 4 every season with Sevilla generally. What a shame and literally a wasted opportunity for such a big club. Hopefully they get new owners who care and can turn it around and make it again what it once was a competing side in La Liga against the big 3 and a threat on the European stage in CL & EL like it use to be. It has the history the fan base to be able to retain this stature again.
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 Жыл бұрын
Things have never been right since Neville was manager! 😂
@silabhowmik6015
@silabhowmik6015 Жыл бұрын
Neville got the chance because of his relationship with the owner. He is also a Salford City owner along with Valencia.
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 Жыл бұрын
@@silabhowmik6015 just a joke…
@silabhowmik6015
@silabhowmik6015 Жыл бұрын
Sorry mate. I am frustrated with what's happening to our club right now and I got carried away. Once again Sorry
@lcfcbeliever04
@lcfcbeliever04 Жыл бұрын
So sad to see Valencia at this situation, my favourite spanish team
@williamtollsten2410
@williamtollsten2410 Жыл бұрын
Always a good day when Zealand uploads, love these videos Z. Hoping to catch you on a stream some day soon.
@BiffTheBanana
@BiffTheBanana Жыл бұрын
I love these informative real life football videos
@cogo1021
@cogo1021 Жыл бұрын
hey zealand, i'm a young guy from Valencia who has 16 years old. I love my Valencia and I love your channel too. Also, I have the season pass al,ost 12 years. This singapore man is gonna destroy our club, I go on every riot and every video or montage that pepople do about the situation of the club calms me down, and it helps in a big part for giving visibilsation to the club situation. Thanks!!!!!!!!
@RR-ut3xl
@RR-ut3xl Жыл бұрын
always admired Valencia from back in the day when they had the likes of mendieta and aimar tearing it up for them and their imposing stadium, such a shame
@chepachem8351
@chepachem8351 Жыл бұрын
Love where your channel is going buddeh
@adamdavies790
@adamdavies790 Жыл бұрын
I know how it feels for Valencia fans with me being a Sunderland fan with our debt hope yous get your ownership sorted out like we did with a promising future and many young players and a great owner❤❤
@matttias3
@matttias3 Жыл бұрын
Non Valencia fan but as a football fan in general I love videos like this. Perfect while playing away on fm23.
@robertogimenez8590
@robertogimenez8590 Жыл бұрын
Hey Z! Valencia fan here. Thank you for this video
@ync_07cas11
@ync_07cas11 Жыл бұрын
As a long life supporter since I was a very small lad, it pains me to see my club suffer this much 😢
@CesarBarca
@CesarBarca Жыл бұрын
There is only one solution: Loans, loans, gotta get loans🎶
@jaelenhounsell
@jaelenhounsell Жыл бұрын
Loans are what is sending us down currently
@5tuartGuy
@5tuartGuy Жыл бұрын
Deportivo, Malaga & Valencia well on the way down, what a mess Spain is in
@Smonserratm
@Smonserratm Жыл бұрын
The thing is, not only Parejo and Coquelin left for free, they joined the rival club Vila-real and went on to win the Europa League for them.
@jordancushen2837
@jordancushen2837 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely one of my fave videos of FM 23 so far
@RevolutioZ
@RevolutioZ Жыл бұрын
He actually invested in Valencia with loans, both money and players(look it up) to make it a bit worse. Salvo the current president at the time said that the only other bid that was serious other than the "Russian Maffia"(quote) and bids like that, was Wanda who is a serious player that has invested in Atletico Madrid and owns like 30% shares there I believe. Palm oil was actually something new to me, he might need to use some in that face because his skin looks like he had a meeting with Pinhead in Hellraiser or something. Also a tip for the daughter and probably next Director of Football. He refused to congratulate Marcelino and the rest of the squad when winning CdR which, money-wise, doesn't mean anything but for a supporter it meant everything after 10 years or so. So he did congratulate him(I doubt it) when qualifying for CL, but refused to do the same to the squad and coach when winning the cup. Then Marcelino never asked, or Alemany, for big signings just players he worked with in the past - not Mendes puppies and complete third wheels. Talk about striking luck like winning the lottery with that Palm-oil investment almost like Bitcoin back in the day. Zero understanding about Football, fincances - originally the son of a fisherman and he should have stuck to fish, palm-oil and at the best polishing shoes. Edit: Let me add what an impressive explanation of "what happened", you nailed it. And love the **TUKKITUUUUUUUU** "Voro"!
@bundesautobahn7
@bundesautobahn7 Жыл бұрын
So, Marcelino spoke out and got fired after winning a trophy. I was about to compare that to 1998, when Jupp Heynckes won the UCL and still got fired by Real Madrid after only a season.
@HowellSzn
@HowellSzn Жыл бұрын
Zealand has just made me have another favorite manager VORO
@jannoottenburghs5121
@jannoottenburghs5121 Жыл бұрын
LOVE the Beerschot kit
@norbertsobon5621
@norbertsobon5621 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for my new save idea, Z and Valencia Fan! I'll get it sorted don't worry
@javigomez2520
@javigomez2520 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video 🥺
@USC9210
@USC9210 Жыл бұрын
Oh My God, the longer this video progressed, the more horrific the facts and state of a venerable club made clear. Much sympathy all you Valencia fans commenting here and those in Spain. Courage!
@unfilteredopinionated
@unfilteredopinionated Жыл бұрын
Amazing feed bro👏
@perrocomunista5751
@perrocomunista5751 Жыл бұрын
as someone from valencia, and a valencia supporter, I just want to cry😭😭😭😭😭
@gezblair
@gezblair Жыл бұрын
Top bit of sports journalism. Fair, balanced and with footnotes. And you don’t get cool Voro graphics on BBC Sport
@stevenrussellhaime6626
@stevenrussellhaime6626 Жыл бұрын
Peter Lim has put Valencia in the bin
@joels1469
@joels1469 Жыл бұрын
Great video Zealand. Would love to see you do more videos on La Liga
@cathalssupermegahappyfunti223
@cathalssupermegahappyfunti223 Жыл бұрын
Loving the celtic top in the background. 🍀
@unscarium
@unscarium Жыл бұрын
as a valencia fan this breaks my heart
@abolacadernos7164
@abolacadernos7164 Жыл бұрын
The blood is on the hands of Peter Lim & Jorge Mendes
@kieronparr3403
@kieronparr3403 Жыл бұрын
Peter Lim, best friend of the class of '92
@kwolfdan3976
@kwolfdan3976 Жыл бұрын
Deportivo LaCoruna relegation broke my hart..it is my favourite club from Spain by far..Valencia is second..poor management, shady purchase by cardboard billionaires takes the joy of watching your favourite team..win or loose at least if the club have a well managed portfolio and money they could be saved or saved themselves from relegation..i hope in my life time to see Super Depor back in La Liga..
@SeranaTheStudent
@SeranaTheStudent Жыл бұрын
Voro..... *Guitar Riff*
@TheRadPlayer
@TheRadPlayer Жыл бұрын
If he doesn't have the financial muscle to own the football team, AND he hasn't visited for 4 years, why not just sell?
@Chengyuan79
@Chengyuan79 Жыл бұрын
Singaporean bosses have MASSIVE egos. Losing is a loss of "face", in Singaporean terms. His daughter's statements told us everything we need to know about how they are like already. In short - If I am right, I am right. If I am wrong, I am still RIGHT~! 😅 Some of the folks here commenting that dear Peter might be keeping the club purely out of spite. You may have no idea how close to the truth you might be. DISCLAIMER - Singaporean here.
@aboodkram259
@aboodkram259 Жыл бұрын
he want 300mil€ in team that in relegation zone...he's crazy I swear
@MAnnnooo1
@MAnnnooo1 Жыл бұрын
That's sad. I'm brazilian and Valencia is my favorite club in Europe.
@ajaxm13
@ajaxm13 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, the easiest way to get a good English approximation of Camp Nou, is to imagine it's just Camp No, by the way!
@prich943
@prich943 Жыл бұрын
I went to a match once and I love the club it’s so sad what’s happened to them
@natsudama4604
@natsudama4604 Жыл бұрын
My beloved valencia may go down, but i will go down with them 😊
@EyeOfTheLensPhotography
@EyeOfTheLensPhotography Жыл бұрын
Making Zoro my assistant after this, I'll be in good hands if I'm fired
@Zpice
@Zpice Жыл бұрын
*Guitar chord*
@MasterUpload2010
@MasterUpload2010 Жыл бұрын
Awewome videos lately Z
@K3NT97
@K3NT97 Жыл бұрын
Complete shadow of the former club, they have had some insanely good players over the years, Vicente, David Villa, David Silva, Kluivert and way more
@astom89
@astom89 Жыл бұрын
Valencia even let Kang-in Lee go, the Valencian most prominent youth at the time, just for free who's now playing in Mallorca RCD. Mallorca is now in mid-table, avoiding relegation. Valencia's dumb management, dumb transfer deals, dumb attitude toward fans, would lead the club no where but relegation
@jaelenhounsell
@jaelenhounsell Жыл бұрын
Lim terminated Lee's contract because he didn't like him
@ram-to4en
@ram-to4en Жыл бұрын
​​@@jaelenhounsell well he didnt terminate his contract, but rather he didnt renew it Sorry for my english :/
@jaelenhounsell
@jaelenhounsell Жыл бұрын
@@ram-to4en they actually did terminate his contract.
@ram-to4en
@ram-to4en Жыл бұрын
@@jaelenhounsell i dont think so. He finished his contract and they wouldnt renew it
@Marouane0
@Marouane0 Жыл бұрын
I've been talking about this for over 5 years and finally someone noticed
@surichidad9591
@surichidad9591 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Thanks for support us
@avia994
@avia994 Жыл бұрын
great video!!
@SimplyAlexGaming
@SimplyAlexGaming Жыл бұрын
Really well made video
@Midtable1881
@Midtable1881 Жыл бұрын
Hi Z. The solution to the problems at Valencia I think can be found ironically on this channel in your Toulouse moneyball video. Imagine if they adopt that method towards recruiting?
@GVike
@GVike Жыл бұрын
Toulouse is far from a Valencia and I say so as a Toulouse sympathizer.
@judehomer99
@judehomer99 Жыл бұрын
Started an FM23 save with valencia a few weeks ago, not realising the background behind the financial problems. Been a difficult save with such low budget while still having the expectations of finishing mid table and been encouraged to sell players when bids come in. Finished 8th in first season but then had to sell Gaya to Man city for 55m, only got around 15m from that to then spend. Managed to finish in the europa league spots in season 2, but lost in the semi finals. The budget is less than 2m each season, but still expect to be challenging for european football.
@nicholastricarico2957
@nicholastricarico2957 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Valencia.
@captainkeller2792
@captainkeller2792 Жыл бұрын
I like the voro joke and what a legend this guy is. I do have kind of a history with valencia, as a kid i was a bayern fan of course i remember the cl final from 2001. Since that game, i respected valencia as a hard working fighter club, because that was what they were doing, and it is sad that all is going down hill. This club is an important part of football history and I hope it will go upwards some day again.
@GuyJames
@GuyJames Жыл бұрын
it's the Camp 'Now' - I live in Catalonia so that's definitely correct
@nutri-gains6535
@nutri-gains6535 Жыл бұрын
I only just noticed you wear a Beerschot jersey!! That's my club 😀😀😀😀
@FPLKEL
@FPLKEL Жыл бұрын
Lads I think I know the solution. Bring in Voro *guitar riff*
@MrZuhahaha
@MrZuhahaha Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on Galatasaray's recent glow up? Big fan of your channel and Galatasaray, love your content!
@SAFFRONINFERNO
@SAFFRONINFERNO Жыл бұрын
Sad to hear about Valencia Used to watch and support them
@StingerNeilD
@StingerNeilD Жыл бұрын
Z I'm loving this direction man
@fartimusmaximus8710
@fartimusmaximus8710 Жыл бұрын
Sucks what's going on at Valencia right now . 😔
@alanrivas2950
@alanrivas2950 Жыл бұрын
I hope not, not a Valencia fan but I hope they can stay in the top flight of Spanish futbol!
@Offical_FutCT
@Offical_FutCT 11 ай бұрын
WE DID ITT!! AMUNT
@jameswg13
@jameswg13 Жыл бұрын
Well the club shop was shut the other day when I went to get something from there so yes yes they are
@michaelfarrow5817
@michaelfarrow5817 Жыл бұрын
On another point, I think there are serious questions that have to be asked about Nou Mestalla. Firstly, they poured this concrete superstructure 15 years ago. What condition is it in and is it safe to continue? Secondly, why was it built in the style it was? This reinforced concrete structure was old-fashioned 15 years ago, now it's positively ancient. Most a built with steel frames and lightweight materials wherever possible. Thirdly, how much would it cost to finish this stadium? Might it be better to raze what they have and build a more modern structure?
@Samuel-no2mq
@Samuel-no2mq Жыл бұрын
I didn't click on this video the other day assuming it was a crypto advert. Then I noticed Zealand underneath and instantly watched.
@mike188129
@mike188129 Жыл бұрын
Deportivo was also a Mendes-club signing all his client at a high cost there. Monaco and St. Petersburg were also Mendes-Clubs until they both nearly got relegated. Lim does not run the club it is Jorge Mendes who influences him tbh.
@Valencia73
@Valencia73 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate,where are you from?
@falagarius
@falagarius Жыл бұрын
Peter Lim is also part of the Salford team
@bananaempijama
@bananaempijama Жыл бұрын
Another club destroyed with the help of Jorge Mendes. As a Portuguese, I despise him and I hope he ends up in jail one day. And for those who praise him, should really investigate for what he truly represents.
@Peqqy
@Peqqy Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many managers are still getting paid by Valencia given that they change manager every few months or so.
@BiPolar417
@BiPolar417 Жыл бұрын
This will be a very good football manager save next season, if they still exist that is.
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