Is XCOM 3 Ever Going To Happen?

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Napyet Gaming

Napyet Gaming

17 күн бұрын

Documentarian Danny O'Dwyer recently conducted an interview with former XCOM team lead Jake Solomon. Much was revealed that will be of interest to XCOM fans - particularly the lack of information regarding XCOM 3.
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@coreyjasper8329
@coreyjasper8329 15 күн бұрын
I just got into xcom because I had a bad accident and can only use one hand at the moment. It’s so fun and refreshing and helped get me back into my hobby so I hope they make a third one day
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
Hope you're healing up okay corey - and glad XCOM is helping you pass the time. I did a couple of guides on the game in case they're any use (I know there's already a ton out there!) I put them in an XCOM playlist on the channel.
@coreyjasper8329
@coreyjasper8329 15 күн бұрын
@@napyet I loved the guides! Do you have any other turned based games you would recommend??
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
@@coreyjasper8329 I played Hard West after XCOM and its pretty good. Very similar in a lot of ways but a completely different setting and tone. My fave turn based game of all time is Final Fantasy Tactics if you like retro stuff!
@grimmlinn
@grimmlinn 15 күн бұрын
There's Phoenix Point, Warhammer 40K Chaos Gate, Gears Tactics, Mutant Year Zero, Wasteland 2-3, and of course, Xcom Chameleon squad.
@coreyjasper8329
@coreyjasper8329 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for your suggestions I’m gonna check them out keep up the great content 😊😊
@TheSektor13
@TheSektor13 15 күн бұрын
Marvel is poison to the industry. I really hate that "superhero" franchise delayed XCOM3.
@sjsharp2007
@sjsharp2007 15 күн бұрын
Each t othei rown I guess but personally I lik eMidnight Suns I liked Xcom as wel s oi tdoesn' tbother me tha tmuch sa I enjoyed both. Stil play them.
@RichardPhillips1066
@RichardPhillips1066 14 күн бұрын
Money talks
@fearan9406
@fearan9406 14 күн бұрын
Never got another deus ex for same reason
@afonsoalmeida4975
@afonsoalmeida4975 14 күн бұрын
I dont like marvel either but the game is really fun ngl, it has a lot of content so im not even mad tbh
@sjsharp2007
@sjsharp2007 14 күн бұрын
@@afonsoalmeida4975 I like Marvel more than DC as I find thei rcharactres moer interestin but I can understand.
@kaknakful
@kaknakful 15 күн бұрын
When the game play trailers for Midnight Sun came out, it got slaughtered for looking like a mobile card game. It was pretty brutal. Also, Marvel fatigue was suddenly a thing just as the game came out which was just baaaad timimg.
@Khorothis
@Khorothis 15 күн бұрын
So the TL;DR of the story is that Firaxis thought they'd make a boatload of money from Marvels, which people were getting overdosed with, rather than making a sequel for a game there was a reliable, committed demand for. I'm not holding my breath for Firaxis to get its shit together and make XCOM3, it's probably going to be done by another studio in the 2030s.
@winyonzentrada
@winyonzentrada 15 күн бұрын
Let's be honest, it's the investors and the absolutely clueless people to the gaming franchise, that see nothing but money in their eyes. Hen e liveservice and other ns measures. For some big companies, gone are the days to make the greatest game and in with the day to make the greatest way to milk money, a good game is an afterthought.
@MrMartinNeumann
@MrMartinNeumann 11 күн бұрын
Midnight Sun is currently available for free at Epic Games. My biggest issue with the game is that it feels like you have no impact. Characters cannot die (always a problem with tactic games where the characters are the focus) and in the few places where you can make choices regarding who to engage and what to do it feels like it does not matter.
@1sparkyj
@1sparkyj 15 күн бұрын
I thought the combat mechanics in Midnight Suns was really fun and worked well with the abilities of the Marvel characters. It was the "friendship simulator" part of the game that really jarred for me, it just felt a bit tween
@kamen42
@kamen42 12 күн бұрын
Yes, it was fun, but I think it could have been expanded more. About mid-game I realized I already have basically every card that is available and the rest was... a bit boring.
@KraiseGaming
@KraiseGaming 14 күн бұрын
As a creator that has done 12 seasons of XCOM 2 with as many mods as the game can handle each time.... . Your video gives me hope that we will see an XCOM 3 at some point where all but radio silence has been heard. Good vid.. I hope you are right and it is in some stage of development.
@Emiltecknar
@Emiltecknar 6 күн бұрын
Yeah But No one from xcom2 are left. Will it acually be xcom 3 If everyone worked on it are gone
@onlywithbuts1781
@onlywithbuts1781 12 күн бұрын
The fact that XCOM 3 wasn't just an idea but actually started to shape already until Marvel came in makes it extra frustrating... -_-
@TRD4RKP4SS3NG3R
@TRD4RKP4SS3NG3R 10 күн бұрын
It's honestly really simple as to why Midnight Suns failed. I'm still confused on where people (including the devs) fail to see this. It's the tail of two games. 50% was friendship simulator, the other 50% was tactical combat/card battler. When you combine two genres that just don't belong, instead of focusing on one style of gameplay and doing it right, that's where you have your division. Ask anyone who has played it, and they'll tell you the combat is the best part of the game. They're not wrong. It was Firaxis doing what they do best. Why they incorporated the other model into it is the problem. People would love an entire superhero tactical combat/card battler game. It's the odd friendship simulator that threw everything off.
@Deviljho5
@Deviljho5 10 күн бұрын
Midnight Suns is an awesome game! I still play it! The fact that you’re able to create your own character really keeps me engaged and entertained!😊
@DarTame
@DarTame 3 күн бұрын
I will never forgive the fact that MID-night suns was prioritized over Xcom 3
@InnerFire6213
@InnerFire6213 15 күн бұрын
Really wish that midnight suns wasn’t card based. I was ready to spend hundreds of hours on that, but after finishing the tutorial it didn’t give me the same feeling like xcom
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
I'm not a big fan of card games either so that was a bit of a turn off for me. I wonder if card-games do better on mobile? They're huge on that platform.
@Shiftry87
@Shiftry87 14 күн бұрын
@@napyet Most gamers when they hear that there are cards in a game they dont get a good feeling. A long time ago it wasent as bad but if u release something like that today especially in combination with established heroes everyone immediately thinks they are 100% trying to cram in a way for u to buy card packs and that isent a good thing for any game that isent a pure card game like Yu-Gi-Oh, Magic or Hearthstone.
@InnerFire6213
@InnerFire6213 14 күн бұрын
@@Shiftry87 imagine if midnight suns lets you deploy shield soldiers that you could customize like XCOM troops, and heroes are treated as elites that you can only deploy 1 or 2 in a normal missions (more in special avenger missions). Kinda like the psi op elites and the commander avatar in xcom 2. It doesn't feel tactical if all you get are random card drafts, and the movements are very limited too it makes the mission feel linear
@Shiftry87
@Shiftry87 13 күн бұрын
​@@InnerFire6213 It sounds like a cool ide when u first read it which is why almost that same system u describe was the core gameplay design of Battlefront 2 when it released and look what they did with it. If there are cards that gives u a hero unit or influence the power of units its only a matter of time before they start to sell them.
@laycamwd238
@laycamwd238 14 күн бұрын
Yeah, cancelling XCom 3 to do Marvel was a huge mistake. Sad.
@sheacorduroy5565
@sheacorduroy5565 13 күн бұрын
Honestly I’m just here wishing we got a remake of XCOM: Terror From the Deep just for the setting alone.
@gregbackas987
@gregbackas987 13 күн бұрын
if your serious about the old games look into the rosigma mod for defender its amazing
@martinricardo4503
@martinricardo4503 5 күн бұрын
No.
@EverGameStudios
@EverGameStudios 14 күн бұрын
they did so great with remaking Xcom, I would love to see them doing something with the old Syndicate game
@jingbot1071
@jingbot1071 8 күн бұрын
Sadly EA has that IP. Rip.
@magpiestraub3387
@magpiestraub3387 14 күн бұрын
The devs did hear the fans' plead to drop the cards, but they said no and went ahead with it and now they know why it failed. That is why it's important to listen to feedback. They were inspired by Slay the Spire, which is why they were trying to mimic the game, but it just didn't work out that way. They should have stayed with the Xcom formula. It's possible Xcom 3 might come out years later or never come out at all, but remember that there are plenty of other great Tactics games and more new ones coming out soon, so it's not the end of the world.
@LoomisPC
@LoomisPC 14 күн бұрын
I want phoenix point 2 over any xcom (which are also bloody great!)
@gunnergoz
@gunnergoz 14 күн бұрын
Still hoping to see XC3 as I've been a fan of the XC games since day 1.
@yxolloxy3273
@yxolloxy3273 15 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="230">3:50</a> did you end up trying midnight suns? the core gameplay loop of it is really a lot of fun; they dropped the ball on the dlc characters, but the actual meat and potatoes of the game is really solidly fun.
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
Not yet - I need to get around to playing it
@sjsharp2007
@sjsharp2007 15 күн бұрын
Yeah I actuall yreall yenjoy playing Midnight Suns if anything I enjo yit moer than Xcom but I do enjoy both
@RichardPhillips1066
@RichardPhillips1066 14 күн бұрын
​@@napyetild be interested in your opinion, I don't like marvel, but if the mechanics are good I could hold my nose
@RauschenPauli
@RauschenPauli 14 күн бұрын
idk the plot/dialog and the character sim part was really mediocre. the combat was pretty fun tho. wish there was more of that in the game.
@sjsharp2007
@sjsharp2007 14 күн бұрын
@@RauschenPauli I personally liked i tbut everyone has thei rown opinion.
@MrLibormortis
@MrLibormortis 15 күн бұрын
xcom2 is still the best in the genre. The main reason I think why midnight sun failed is all those micro transaction game pass and so on, and we do like to customize our own toons as-well.
@That_Ifrit_Guy
@That_Ifrit_Guy 15 күн бұрын
Main reason I didn't look into Midnight suns (yet) Is just hero fatigue,
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
Ditto for me too I think. You kind of know who everyone is and how they're going to behave already. What the devs can do with established characters is limited.
@That_Ifrit_Guy
@That_Ifrit_Guy 15 күн бұрын
@@napyet I'm keen to check it out at some point, but when I'm not sure~
@gregbackas987
@gregbackas987 13 күн бұрын
@@That_Ifrit_Guy apparently like 60% of the game is great eg combat ect but the other 40% is almost like dating sim haha which is rubbish
@That_Ifrit_Guy
@That_Ifrit_Guy 12 күн бұрын
@@gregbackas987 Dating sims can be fun~
@blackraven3720
@blackraven3720 15 күн бұрын
weird this video went up when it did when I started playing Midnight Suns day before yesterday lol. Hope XCOM 3 still happens, or a XCOM quality version of Dead State
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching - and hope you have fun with Midnight Suns!
@VelcroSnake93
@VelcroSnake93 13 күн бұрын
In my case, part of the fun of a turn based tactics game is developing my characters and getting attached to them. That's not really something I can do with pre-established characters. On top of that, there aren't really a lot of Marvel characters I really like. I'm more of an Image guy, and I also don't really buy comics anymore since they're so expensive for what you get, and I got burned out on the Marvel movies after Endgame when the characters I did like from those movies started getting replaced in new movies by characters I did not like.
@silvermknight
@silvermknight 3 күн бұрын
I remember when Midnight Sons was announced, they promised us that it would not affect XCOM 3 at all.
@antoxa.310
@antoxa.310 10 күн бұрын
That is such a terrible idea: XCOM has a core audience of fans that like the turn-based genre, like strategy and are mostly adults while Marvel superhero stuff is for kids, does not fit with the turn-based strategy genre and is so saturated, everyone is sick of those superheros. Completely different audiences with XCOM being head and shoulders above anything in the Marvel IP.
@newspin2477
@newspin2477 14 күн бұрын
I never even heard of this marvel game, and I pretty much don't have anything to do with anything disney does anymore. They should have made xcom 3.. I would have bought that for sure. Plus, a big part of my enjoyment of xcom was customizing my own characters, so if you take that away it's a massive loss, and I agree that if I want to play as wolvering, I want to feel like a beast, I don't want a turn based game for that.
@DavidBrendan7799
@DavidBrendan7799 8 күн бұрын
I didn't like turn based tactics before X COM. One of my favorite game series of all times, hands down.
@pix00l
@pix00l 13 күн бұрын
We need XCOM 3 4 and 5 at the very least
@Hammerheadcruiser
@Hammerheadcruiser 10 күн бұрын
Midnight suns came out 3 years after endgame, which many I and I believe many others believe is the conclusion of the marvel movies. Marvel keeps trying to bring that energy back, with more films about heroes nobody cares about and games nobody wants to play. It really is tragic we lost xcom 3 (for the moment at least) for a franchise that's over.
@qwefg3
@qwefg3 10 күн бұрын
To be honest... I thought they went with Midnight Suns (poor marketing) due to their previous two failures. The two failures being Xcom Mobile... And Xcom Chimera. So trying to grab Marvel money while they go over what went wrong sounded like a good idea... That didn't work out well.
@MadeagoestoNam
@MadeagoestoNam 13 күн бұрын
Midnight Suns was genuinely a good game. Solid 8/10 IMO. I am almost certain that it flopped because it released during the sharp decline of the MCU. Had it released around the time of Endgame it would have made tons of money.
@PaulRoneClarke
@PaulRoneClarke 15 күн бұрын
The fluff between missions in the Marvel game stopped me from playing it after about 10 hours. The actual,gameplay on missions was pretty good. It was the cringey stuff you had to do between missions that made me stop playing.
@TECHNICALfalcon
@TECHNICALfalcon 14 күн бұрын
Midnight suns put me off due to dlc off launch , I just decided to wait till it was way cheaper for everything
@TECHNICALfalcon
@TECHNICALfalcon 14 күн бұрын
I just wish I could try chimera squad on Xbox :/ no idea why it never got ported
@spectralassassin6030
@spectralassassin6030 15 күн бұрын
My reason. I like superheroes. I don't like superhero games. Even if they have good reviews I won't play them. I've always been like this and I don't know the reason why. Perhaps it's the same for others?
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285 15 күн бұрын
I think the issue is tied to the medium... We like our superheroes to overcome adversity, solve situations, or fail to do so and have to live with the consequences. That makes good stories and/or good characters that we enjoy witnessing. In games however, the player is in control. You can't take too much agency from them to tell your story, or they will call BS and loose their supsence of disbelief, and likely their investment in the story. Also, playing is supposed to be fun, you need challenges to overcome, but neither a difficulty wall, nor a permanent power trip... Thus, the characters we've come to love and know what they're supposed to be capable of end up severely underpowered, or unable to perform game breaking feats that are part of their basic kit... Thus, the very same gameplay that would be a blast to experience on its own, become a magnets of lore inconsistencies, frustration and so on once you attach it to a recognisable character it doesn't fit ! For instance : the Arkham series is great, Batman is all about infiltration and beating up vilains; the Gotham Impostors game was an absolute flop because no one wants to play an FPS in that setting !
@spectralassassin6030
@spectralassassin6030 15 күн бұрын
@@pierre-mariecaulliez6285 You make a good point.
@AlexavierMcConnor81
@AlexavierMcConnor81 Күн бұрын
So THIS is the reason we got Chimera Squad instead...🤔
@eatingweevils
@eatingweevils 14 күн бұрын
I thought the card based turn based of Midnight Sun was interesting but the friendship sim of the home hub downtime was utter drag what went on far too long
@mikemikeson9173
@mikemikeson9173 15 күн бұрын
Xcom 2 is so good thoguh. how do you improve on that?
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
I would like them to look at how fighting close-quarters combat works. Less misses when your gun barrel is literally in the enemy's face!
@Psilocybin77
@Psilocybin77 13 күн бұрын
by playing the mods Long War 2 and Long War of the Chosen 😉 Incredible mod packs that greatly extend the playtime of the games.
@snoboreddotcom
@snoboreddotcom 6 күн бұрын
i think it comes down to trying to take what was in the game at its core and improve it. This is what 2 did over EU well. We all love WoTC, but 2 without it was a very solid game. And it was because they worked on things like -destructible cover being improved and extended to floors, and better rendered -movement being easier to plan out with markers -a concealment mechanic -making weapon upgrades go from buying one of each to squad based upgrades, thus removing some almost busy work (this one can be argued) Part of why i ultimately never went back to unknown/within despite personally preferring its setting and story is because all the little conveniences, ui upgrades, and just in general experience bits of the game made it that much better. You could reset the story for 3, back to defending to pre-invasion, and bring so much QoL from 2 to it, while adding new QoL features and consistency (Line of Sight working better, animation delays etc) that it would be worth getting and playing.
@johnflenaly6322
@johnflenaly6322 15 күн бұрын
For me Midnight Suns was a hard pass purely for being a superheroes game. I was never a big fan to begin with and the massive amount of superhero movies and other media we have had over the last two decades burnt me out completely.
@RichardPhillips1066
@RichardPhillips1066 14 күн бұрын
I avoided it for the same reason, plus I suspected it would have free to play monetisation
@sjsharp2007
@sjsharp2007 14 күн бұрын
For me it was a big yes give i tto me as ther reall yisn' tmany singleplayer superhero RPG's Avengers an dSuicide Squad were bot hcompletel yonline which was fo rme why I'm glad Midnight Suns exists. Being disabled and only with one hand on the controls I'm not great a taction games I can play som ewit heasy AI but I prefer games wit hmoe rtactics and strategy s oMidnigh tSuns kind of fits and scratches that itch perfectly.
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 4 күн бұрын
What Will XCOM 3 even be about? Will it go more sci fi tech and follow up on that threat The Elders feared so much? 😮
@agentduck9285
@agentduck9285 14 күн бұрын
It's incredibly optimistic at this point to just assume xcom 3 is still being worked on, I hope you are right of course but I feel like it's probably not a thing.
@armjustarm
@armjustarm 3 күн бұрын
This is a lesson I have learned. Good things end. (Unless they they dont and become a hollow corpse shabling around feeding on nostalgia like whatever happened after the first toy story)
@sachad964
@sachad964 15 күн бұрын
Try Phoenix point, its terror from the deep xcom style
@TECHNICALfalcon
@TECHNICALfalcon 14 күн бұрын
That’s one I couldn’t get into , start of mission felt like I had to run for like ten turns before I found any enemies , idk if they ever changed it but maps felt gigantic , I loved gears tactics and othercide tho . They were fun but no word of sequels on them :/
@humorinpolitics56
@humorinpolitics56 10 күн бұрын
Yes, but they were busy on the Marvel game first. Now they're working on Xcom 3. All of the information is out there if you're not too lazy to look.
@martinricardo4503
@martinricardo4503 5 күн бұрын
Instead of blaming people you don't know for being "lazy" why not back up your statement with some facts. Using "they're" is the height of a lazy argument.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 6 күн бұрын
Wasn't there an unpopular X-com spinoff game that came and went? I know X-com 2's timer was anathema to older gamers who are the demographic that really loves tactics games.
@TheKnightOfSmite
@TheKnightOfSmite Күн бұрын
Firaxis is all hands on deck for Civ 7
@Sonoo19
@Sonoo19 15 күн бұрын
after the terrible boated mess that Midnight Suns was, I wouldn't expect much even if Xcom3 does come out.
@countryrave
@countryrave 13 күн бұрын
When they first started talking about midnight sons, they said that the abilities were going to be random skill-based cards I was out from that exact moment. I have enough problems with my luck in XCOM. There was no way I was going to base every battle on it.🤷‍♂️
@EverGameStudios
@EverGameStudios 14 күн бұрын
for me, the only reason i didn't even wanted to touch midnight sons was the card game idea. while I love card games as a all like Magic etc... i hate the implementation of them in video games. but that's just me.
@shoutingstone
@shoutingstone 15 күн бұрын
For me I've never been one for film or TV tie-ins. If I watched Superman as a kid I didn't then want to run home and pretend to be superman in a video game, and that still hoods true as an adult. I like marvel well enough but I don't want to play them in a game (or at least it's not a factor, a good game is still a good game on its own merets of course).
@spectralassassin6030
@spectralassassin6030 15 күн бұрын
Always felt the same. Just never found superhero games interesting. Tv shows, movies, and a few comics here and there sure. But games? Never. Odd really. I wonder what causes that.
@goffe2282
@goffe2282 14 күн бұрын
I never even heard of Midnight Suns, but I don't really gel well with superhero games. As for X-Com3.... I really hope they take the good parts from Chimera Squad (and drop the bad parts) but I really really grew to love the turn timeline and not just having this one side goes then other side goes.... I really find that quite boring even though I love the X-Com games.
@rickysutanto9720
@rickysutanto9720 15 күн бұрын
firaxis is gone, layoffs + both the main leaders is gone, even if x3 out it wont be in the same direction and xcom is a very low priority for them, at least 1 of their last game with zcom on its title did not get any console port.
@RobertArmstrong-xm9zg
@RobertArmstrong-xm9zg 16 күн бұрын
I didnt even Know it was a turn based tactics game..maybe advertising was bad?
@napyet
@napyet 16 күн бұрын
Perhaps...the messaging regarding what the "Midnight Suns" actually were seemed unclear to me. Like a sort of magical super-team that live in a castle. I was never really sure.
@Ocean5ix
@Ocean5ix 10 күн бұрын
Problem with Midnight Suns is that it was reaching the mainstream audience that get games like Spider Man, when they saw a turn based game with “alright” graphics they immediately turned away. I saw a lot of people saying the game looked “too mobile”. There is a huge bias against turn based games that only comes up when a game leaves its niche audience/market. I remember reading tons and tons of comments saying Baldurs Gate 3 would flop and would be trash because of its turn based system. In other words, they probably expected Marvel money but ended up getting… xcom/tactics game niche money from it. I think the game is excellent. It does have annoying Persona slice of life wannabe moments that drags the experience down but most of the time I thought it was a great game. In some aspects even better than XCOM, like the environmental combat aspect. I know it’s hard to make a human soldier kick someone into a generator but maybe with the genetics/mech augmentations it could work.
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 6 күн бұрын
Most people who play BG3 don't even realise or care it's turn based. The animations and flow of combat works well to it's advantage with action players. Also some people who played BG1/2 as a real time game probably still think BG3 is the same.
@zoriononline
@zoriononline 13 күн бұрын
I hadnt even heard of the game at all tbh.. Not even on my recommended list over on Steam, and I've got some pretty obscure suggestions of games in the genre..
@dcfavorite
@dcfavorite 15 күн бұрын
I don't mind waiting longer for an XCOM 3, reminding myself of the old "X-COM: Apocalypse", where the developers try to speed up the game and make sure things happen every second. The result is, you cannot focus on building or training anyone, because your'e interrupted every 30 seconds by being called to battle, and all the factions were trying to get a piece of you, constantly..... It was a headache I wish to never revisit again.
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
I never played Apocalypse - I'm intrigued to try it to see what they were trying to do with that faster style of gameplay. But XCOM for me should always been about careful decision making. Life and death choices!
@dcfavorite
@dcfavorite 15 күн бұрын
@@napyet Recalling how I felt when I first played it, I have to say I feel really rushed and I'm constantly getting prompted to head into battle. Imagine you just come back from a 30~45 min battle, your team's exhausted and injured, and the game is prompting you the next fight is already beginning. Snowball that into unstopping waves of fight with no breaks, eventually all your team members are gonna be exhausted, injured, and your sponsors start to complain and retract funding because you're not protecting their interest.
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
@@dcfavorite Sounds to me like they were trying to take out the strategic layer and just have it be a string of battles. Kind of misses the big picture of why the games work
@dcfavorite
@dcfavorite 14 күн бұрын
@@napyet lol don't take my words for it, it's been many years, try it, and let me know if you feel the same.
@andrzejkulczyk4378
@andrzejkulczyk4378 15 күн бұрын
There was a 3rd one but they made it a spin off with police twist. It came before MMS. They would like us to forget it so they mention MMS...
@blackraven3720
@blackraven3720 15 күн бұрын
That wasn't a 3rd one really, it was same game engine, with slightly different style and scope, they was no grand side to it, and the hero's was fixed not expendable
@andrzejkulczyk4378
@andrzejkulczyk4378 15 күн бұрын
@@blackraven3720 Correct and if you would read with understanding my coment said spin off, and it was clearly 3rd instalment in franchise. Can agree smaller in scope, but still both developer complaining that he had to make MMS ( nice game in my opinion ) and firaxis clearly try yo make us forget they made that abomination.
@Alex.Holland
@Alex.Holland 15 күн бұрын
@@andrzejkulczyk4378 midnight suns is fantastic. and from a technical pov, the third xcom game is probably the best one. But it lacked the strategic element that a lot of xcom fans enjoy.
@tiziorandomicoebasta
@tiziorandomicoebasta 15 күн бұрын
Chimera squad it's not that bad, i actually liked it.
@blackhammer5035
@blackhammer5035 15 күн бұрын
Chimera Squad is a decent game, but the mechanics got repetitive with the small levels, and most of the story and dialogue was very mediocre.
@FireBowProductions
@FireBowProductions 12 күн бұрын
Now, Batman I can see in a stealth tactics style game in the vein of Invisible Inc. But he has kind of oversaturated the video game market in my opinion.
@markthompson4567
@markthompson4567 13 күн бұрын
xcom chimera squad is the 3rd in the series
@gungriffen
@gungriffen 14 күн бұрын
To be fair I've played X-Com since the 90s and never heard of the Marvel game.
@TheRealGara
@TheRealGara Күн бұрын
What a shame... Midnight Suns was pretty darn fun as an Xcom fan. It was a forgettable story and the character interactions were incredibly generic with them clearly not wanting to interfere with canon, but it was a really fun play through after such a long Xcom drought. It's a way better game than anything related to Marvel deserves. You just can't do anything original or interesting with those characters. As I watched the boring character building moments I could almost see the writers referencing gigantic binders of safe noncommittal topics.
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285 15 күн бұрын
For a couple years now, I've been thinking of the Xcom3 I'd like to play... Of course I don't work anywhere near video games production, and honestly, it'd be more of a Xcom2.5... Basically, the idea is that the shadow people backing Shrike at the end of Chimera Squad start a civil war to take Xcom's place, while the Ancients try one last doomsday gamble in the chaos. Gameplay wise, the only real idea I have would be the battlefield effect : every 2 to 3 turns, a pod enters the map, but each pod has a 1/5th chance to be an AI controlled allied pod ;7
@ustrucx
@ustrucx 13 күн бұрын
I almost don't want an X-COM 3 right now. Considering other IPs releasing new entries around this time it would be a benefit to all involved if we waited until the DEI circus trend is through before making a new entry on this beloved IP.
@blackmib
@blackmib 14 күн бұрын
Honestly I woulda played midnight suns but I forgot it existed
@FriendlyYandere
@FriendlyYandere 15 күн бұрын
I thought Xcom 3 was Midnight Sun?
@bushmonster1702
@bushmonster1702 13 күн бұрын
not related in any way.
@tmanook
@tmanook 13 күн бұрын
Midnight Suns is free on the Epic store this week. I played it a few hours. It is unpleasant. Even though it is free I'm not going to continue playing it. Note, I love tactical games and XCOM 1, 2, and Chimera Squad. The super-hero thing could have been fun. Midnight Suns was not fun. The voice acting and dialog sucks so very much. The tactical game play feels watered down. Daily chores are really weird in a non-mobile game. The monetization for cosmetics feels weird. Hate the FOV, makes me motion sick. The first-person for the abbey feels basic, like a 3D game from 15 years earlier. The game feels cheap and poorly made, which is ironic because I'll bet a great deal of work went into it. I have no hate for the game. It just isn't for me. I don't fault those that enjoy it or even think it high quality.
@EvilLordCanas
@EvilLordCanas 6 күн бұрын
Let's be real, it'll take at least as many years for XCOM 3 to come out as it took them to revive the franchise with the release of XCOM Enemy Unknown. So expect one generation of nothing.
@alexjohnson914
@alexjohnson914 14 күн бұрын
I'm not quite sure why this came up on my feed but i did always wonder why an xcom 3 hasn't happened yet with the success of the previous games. Though for me i started with xcom 1 and the expansion enemy unknown and liked it more than xcom 2 then i played oldcom(xcom ufo defense) and i havn't looked back i cannot play the newer xcom games anymore they feel shallow and stale. that game has pretty much turned me into an elitest for oldcom vs any of the newer xcom games. The series to me like many others has only gotten worse as time went on and with mods like 40k for xcom: ufo defense i just go to oldcom for my itch and it does more than satisfy.
@michalvoh
@michalvoh 15 күн бұрын
TBH Xcom 3 (if it had the same formula as previous ones) would be kinda redundant for me. I mean pretty much all tactical turn-based games pretty much copied the core concepts to the point we don´t see any variety anymore. And that bugs me very much.
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
I would like to see some risks being taken also. The two-move system of Enemy Unknown was such a game changer in 2012 it basically became the norm.
@michalvoh
@michalvoh 15 күн бұрын
@@napyet Yeah, it was equally good and bad for the games we played since then. Xcom formula is fun, but seeing it adapted for 15th time just doesn´t do it for me. Not even older franchises were spared (JA3).
@fms3316
@fms3316 14 күн бұрын
Honestly from my experience with Midnight suns, and why I didn't like it as a tactics fan. The whole relationship building thing was the best, it was a cheesy copy of fire emblem and it consumed most of my time playing the game. Combat was fun but didn't feel like the core gameplay loop of the game, so that was hard to recommend. The microtransaction and season pass were extremely expensive, and you had to pay for it if you wanted 2 alternative skins for each character, and you can only get the third available skin (which wasn't great), if you maxed out the relationship.
@Jehuty256
@Jehuty256 3 күн бұрын
Chimera Squad was fun but being friends with aliens was blasphemous
@Kross415
@Kross415 14 күн бұрын
I'm playing Marvel's Mediocre Suns right now because it's free on epic and all I can think of is: ''Man...I could be playing XCOM3 if it wasn't for this game...''
@joered1249
@joered1249 2 күн бұрын
So Sad jake left firaxis i fear if they ever release xcom3 it will be some cartoony type game, or worse something like Chimera Squad and as for midnight sun totaly hate it
@hachijospaniard5643
@hachijospaniard5643 15 күн бұрын
Collecting dust together with the sequel of Beyond Earth, because Firaxis nowdays cares more to do Civilizations games only, for becoming more meaningless and more souless each installment.
@trishamiller7859
@trishamiller7859 15 күн бұрын
I was really looking forward to Midnight Suns. The Combat was actually really good and what I was looking for. It was everything else that put me off. The social nonsense, the seek and find stuff in the woods, and the card stuff were all turn offs to me.
@ericfisher1360
@ericfisher1360 15 күн бұрын
Midnight Suns failed because "cards".
@greenhowie
@greenhowie 15 күн бұрын
Just started a new game of xcom 2 and I'm remembering all the problems it has - timesaver mods help but some of the graphical jank is just annoying, like menus overlaying each other or the camera doing its own thing sometimes. Xcom 3 could be great but honestly? They should make another spinoff to test the market first - last one was a bit too "fallout tactics" for the series but a reimagining of Terror from the Deep would kick ass.
@henrychang2267
@henrychang2267 15 күн бұрын
Phoenix Point seems to be the XCOM3 already - sequel to XCOM?
@spectralassassin6030
@spectralassassin6030 15 күн бұрын
I haven't heard very good things about Phoenix Point sadly. A few positives here and there but mostly negativity.
@TheSektor13
@TheSektor13 15 күн бұрын
Phoenix point is nothing like new XCOMs. It is more like the old ones. If you like that that is fine, but i don't. Also it has kind a "cheap" filling to it.
@greenhowie
@greenhowie 15 күн бұрын
Honestly it kinda does different things but along the same lines. Think the main reason it's so hated was broken kickstarter promises because they took an Epic exclusivity deal, lot of hardcore fans were really upset about it.
@gerarderloper
@gerarderloper 15 күн бұрын
Yes superhero franchise burnout. It was being milked for every dime and started having a stench of mediocracy, that is why midnight suns wasn't a big success. It was 5 years too late. And yes DC fans don't play tactic games!
@SmotheredDreams
@SmotheredDreams 6 күн бұрын
I didn't buy the marvel game cause it had microtransactions on a SP game, so... greed killed it for me.
@Ghalion666
@Ghalion666 13 күн бұрын
Wow I never knew. What a stupid lame disappointing reason. I too thought superheros and xcom mix about as well as hello kitty and fighting games. Well, maybe not THAT much, but I have no interest in superheros, and while I can live with them if needed, ai ask myself things like... how will xcom's research tree work with superheros? Will spiderman and punisher both benefit from weapon upgrades like genric soldiers will? What about armor? Do superheroes collect taxes as they occupy more land? Do I customize them to the same extent on level ups as I do untrained soldiers? How would that make sense when they are established characters? It just didnt seem to be a good fit at all. Being a turn based game was the LEAST of the reasons why.
@grimmlinn
@grimmlinn 15 күн бұрын
I am gonna guess that when they lost Jake Solomon, they lost direction and vision for Xcom3. They tried to develop it without Jake, but realized it was a shadow of where they wanted Xcom3 to be and they just released it as a half priced side title, and figured they would come back to it later when they had a better idea of what to do. Basically, the millenials came in, couldn't make a compelling game, and rather than sully the Xcom3 name, they renamed it to Chameleon Squad and bargain binned the title to at least recoup some development cost. I bet they were hoping to rehire Jake Solomon after he finished with his marvel game.
@MrMaltavius
@MrMaltavius 15 күн бұрын
My reasoning is that Chameleon Squad was to show Marvel that they could release a story/buddy focus game. But since Midnight Sun didn't at all perform sales wise Jake quit and we'll never get an XCOM 3.
@phantommercenary8650
@phantommercenary8650 7 күн бұрын
I avoided Midnight Suns due to boycotting Disney across the board for how they've handled Star Wars and the MCU. I just won't buy any Disney products anymore.
@BlackNomad1
@BlackNomad1 14 күн бұрын
They won’t make an Xcom 3. They nailed it with xcom 2 and they know they can’t beat it. Another reboot could be done though.
@TheRealNeonwarrior
@TheRealNeonwarrior 10 күн бұрын
I think 2k just loves killing its series. Bioshock also died for no reason despite being wildly successful.
@MrAngellicDevil
@MrAngellicDevil 13 күн бұрын
where the hell is Jake Soliman now, he is the visionary for the great X-Com Remakes that we had so far, if it is not him, I dont think X3 would be any good. such a shame......
@hyenawolf147
@hyenawolf147 9 күн бұрын
The RNG in XCOM has been my personal biggest reason why I dislike the game, there can be some RNG but gain the possibility to control these changes such as Gears tactics did or Wasteland 3 where if you attack with an rapid fire weapon your Hit chance is bad but because you shoot multiple times at once you can deal a few damage instead the full one. I would love to see an TLOU or Bioshock type tactic-strategy game.
@maikbaumann1250
@maikbaumann1250 15 күн бұрын
too childish is way i dont played thier superhero game. on top of that reddit writing dialog. just like chimera squad
@aquapendulum
@aquapendulum 15 күн бұрын
Where do they even go with XCOM after Chimera Squad? The Elders have been defeated and the aliens freed of mind control co-existed peacefully with humans on Earth and even got recruited by Earth's law enforcement. What do they even make a XCOM 3 conflict about?
@edhart8583
@edhart8583 14 күн бұрын
Chimera Squad is not cannon to the XCOM storyline stated by the produces of Chimera Squad. It was created to play around and try out new game mechanics. The story to Chimera is more like fan fic.
@aquapendulum
@aquapendulum 14 күн бұрын
@@edhart8583 Which interview are you talking about? The Polygon interview of Mark Nauta made it clear that Enemy Unknown's "Game Over" ending, War of the Chosen's good ending and Chimera Squad are the current canon.
@edhart8583
@edhart8583 14 күн бұрын
​@@aquapendulum Chimera Squad wiki. Development, second paragraph. And if you think I'm wrong then the decision for this direction of the story is poor because you need to consider future games to continue the story. XCOM is about Earth vs Alians, not everyone is friends now and we now fighting other humans who don't agree we can live peacefully together. Completely miss the mark if Chimera is cannon. But I do like the idea of Jane Kelly being Central for XCOM 3 and Bradford playing a more Senior General role like faceless bald man in XCOM 2.
@aquapendulum
@aquapendulum 14 күн бұрын
@@edhart8583 Your source didn't say Chimera Squad isn't canon. The full quote from the Firaxis spokesman was "It’s neither a sequel or expansion to XCOM 2, though its story is set after the events of the past games". Oh, okay... You mean to tell me it's a spinoff game, that's it? He didn't contradict Nauta in the Polygon interview whatsoever. The company messaging is still consistent: Chimera Squad is canon.
@Dutchwheelchair
@Dutchwheelchair 15 күн бұрын
i cant even play xcom 2
@Knighted357
@Knighted357 15 күн бұрын
I hope x-com3 is more like x-com2 and not marvel midnights sons as I can’t stand it it’s horrible mobile phone card game no moving around a map just one screen battle field played for6 hours try to like it and I like superheroes as collected comics punisher/ironman/Avengers. X-com3 needs better graphics and better animations more gruesome kills and enhanced psychological mechanics more base building plus maybe plan vs ufo game play too not just land battles and bigger squads .
@napyet
@napyet 15 күн бұрын
I'm always intrigued thinking about where they might set it. I get that everyone wants it under water like Terror from the Deep but I never much cared for that setting.
@Shoutatclouds
@Shoutatclouds 14 күн бұрын
PHONEX POINT 2 PLS
@hopdevil007
@hopdevil007 15 күн бұрын
Xcom3 get messed up by Marvel. I hate superhero movies.
@manzell
@manzell 12 күн бұрын
I'd love Midnight Suns gameplay in a high fantasy universe.
@r.davidsen
@r.davidsen 14 күн бұрын
I hate Marvel now. I didn't mind their braindead movies until now, but them being the reason my favorite game doesn't have another sequel is disheartening.
@florinadrian5174
@florinadrian5174 15 күн бұрын
LWOTC is xcom3. If they want to do something more, they should either fix those embarrassing bugs or make it open source.
@hanshaperle6075
@hanshaperle6075 14 күн бұрын
Got Midnight Suns free on Epic. I dont like it. Cheatprotection in a single player game.....i need to use my speedhack or turnbased games are too slow for me. i dont like card games. Graphics looks cheap. Performance sucks a bit if you dont skip the 2k launcher......
@kimrah01
@kimrah01 11 күн бұрын
Midnight Sun was trash, cardbased gameplay and an abyssmal story. Further 2K seems really fond of pushing microtransactions in their games as of late and with XCOM2 being as good as it is and having endless replayability thanks to mods, I don't need a new XCOM game. I fear 2K would only ruin the franchise by doing something cringe with the story or trying to sell you extra soldiers for real money...
@George_M_
@George_M_ 15 күн бұрын
Midnight Suns stopped working in the tutorial for me and the trash writing was already apparent, I returned it.
@LorenTR
@LorenTR 13 күн бұрын
Wtf is Marvel?! Make WW2 if you won't do XCOM.
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