Is your horse leaning on the bit?

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Deanna Corby

Deanna Corby

5 жыл бұрын

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Is your horse leaning on the bit
Deanna Corby with Deanna Corby Dressage is a dressage trainer, riding instructor and dressage competition judge based out of Waxhaw, NC, just outside of Charlotte. Deanna offers riding lessons and horse training to students and horses of all ages and experience.
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@oneofamillion4951
@oneofamillion4951 3 ай бұрын
"Consider the bit to be a connection and holding hands with someone you love". That is some of the best horse teaching advice I've heard. ❤
@cassieb8937
@cassieb8937 Жыл бұрын
Please give best examples of a driving aid, when I squeeze the horse just takes off no matter how hard I try and hang on to the outside rein to maintain the trot he just gets faster and choppier and blows through my hands
@sarahm.2133
@sarahm.2133 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video! Thank you! 😊
@DeannaThompsonCorby
@DeannaThompsonCorby 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! 😁
@dancing.with.adagio
@dancing.with.adagio Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was so sad when I was watching a video of my horse and I, and the bit was definitely tugging the corners of his mouth! I'll try more drive. ☺️
@cattymajiv
@cattymajiv 3 ай бұрын
It's really wonderful that you video yourself riding and critique your own work! I sure hope that you aren't being over-critical though, and correcting things that don't need correcting. (Although nearly all of us do need improvement in some way, even most pros!) I hope you have other experienced riders to show the videos to, or better yet riding coaches or teachers, because personally I would hesitate to take the advice of most people. Even among the pros on KZfaq, there are only around half of those that I'm familiar with that I would trust to teach me. The other half have no idea what they are doing. I've found books are more helpful than videos overall. That really should not be the case, but it does go to show you that so many of the makers of videos have no clue! Even the famous ones! But I still do think your videoing of yourself is a great thing! There is a woman from Australia who does coaching over the phone and by video, and video-calls. I think her price is pretty good too. I think her name is Josie, and her channel is really good. It's called Basic Horse Training. All the best to you! I'm sure you are already doing great, but I love the fact that you want to improve! ❤❤❤
@helenagatlin6165
@helenagatlin6165 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have an Arab/Saddlebred dressage horse JUST got and he likes to pull on the bit and reins a lot. I am not holding the reins hard don't know if that is still under leaning on the reins?
@MissSonicexH
@MissSonicexH 5 жыл бұрын
If your horse pulls so far down that it takes the rein from your hands, what would you do? This is more of a green horse question actually, my lovely Standardbred mare does this to me all the time.
@knickerock
@knickerock 3 жыл бұрын
Try a Waterford bit. They cant lean on it. It might get her out of the habit
@royalrenegadee
@royalrenegadee 2 жыл бұрын
@@knickerock this is absolutely untrue. they can lean into a waterford, and any bits with fully collapsible mouth pieces like a waterford or a chain are not very fair options to the horse, as they lay on the tongue and so the contact is always "on" meaning that there's rarely a true release for the horse, it's just pressure and more pressure
@cattymajiv
@cattymajiv 3 ай бұрын
@@royalrenegadee I agree! We need to be getting away from coercive bits! Or even from bits altogether, where possible. (It's not always possible.) If a snaffle isn't enough, then something is wrong. It could be the rider, or it could be a "hole" in the horse's training, or it could be both. But a Waterford bit is definately not the right answer! They are just horrifying things that can cause a whole lot of discomfort or pain! People should search Google and KZfaq to see what they are. I would never use one myself, and I would never suggest it to anyone.
@jennyter-borch5822
@jennyter-borch5822 Жыл бұрын
My Horse pull forward and when im trying to just follow him and drive him more than he is leaning in a soft way he speeds up faster and faster. I try to use my sit to slow him down but that doesn’t work. I try to turn to. But hi just loses his balance an try to keep on going. Tip?
@cattymajiv
@cattymajiv 3 ай бұрын
Horses tend to speed up when they are losing their balance. I think that's exactly what you are saying. That's very perceptive of you! Bravo! I tend to think that lunging him before every ride might help, and 4 or 5 times a week if possible. But I'm not knowledgable enough to teach someone over the internet how to get him to become more balanced, under saddle or on the lunge line. I suggest you read as much as you can in books about that, especially books on training, or with a section on it. Videos are not a very good way at all to learn about most aspects of riding. It's fine for some areas of horsemanship, but not at all for riding or lunging. Books tend to explain things so much better. But not just any old book. You would need to research the writers. That's really easy now though, with the ability most book sellers give us to read samples, to see if we think we will like the author. And if we want to, we can easily sell the books again through Amazon and other sites. You could also contact Josie of the channel called Basic Horse Training. She might be able to help you. She does charge money for advice, but all good trainers will. I think her fees are reasonable, and she's 1 of the very few that I would trust. I don't know her at all. I just think she's very good at what she does. Maybe 2 or 3 video calls with her would be all you would need, to help get your horse to learn to be balanced, and to stop pulling. I saw a video she did on that problem. And what she did was just to lunge him through the transitions repeatedly, a lot, and then to ride him through the same transitions, up and back down, over and over and over. You would have to get the info from her though, on how long to stay at each gait, how long to do it for overall, and how many days to do it. I'm sure that it all varies, according to the horse. And I can't explain like she does about why the repeated transitions helped so much. It did indeed help though! You could see in the video that the horse was much improved! And he learned how to trot and canter at a steady relaxed pace. Collected and balanced, with no speeding up to try to get his balance. Even if you don't contact Josie, I would recommend trying to find that video of hers. But as I said, overall I don't think videos are a very effective way to learn how to fix problems with horses. Just by their nature, videos are not well suited for that at all. Books are SO much better because they tend to go more in depth where it's needed, instead of rushing through things too fast for a proper understanding. But I know they're expensive. They are wonderful resources though, and usually 1 good book will become a lifelong resource! So they are well worth the cost. And on Amazon you usually have the option of getting a used copy for much less money. You could search Google or KZfaq for your favorite horse people telling which books they think are best. And you can ask your favorite KZfaqrs and their viewers in the comment sections, about which books are best for your purposes. Also check Craig's List, Ebay, and Kijiji. I hope this helps you a little bit. It will probably take time to work this issue out, but I love horses and being outside, so almost anything I do with them is enjoyable! It's all about spending time together and enjoying each others company. As a bonus, that attitude is also the most effective. If we set deadlines for a certain progression, we are almost certain to be disappointed. That just seems to curse the whole thing! If we just set out to enjoy the process, and not to pressure ourself or the horse, all small positive results feel like progress, so it's a bonus for me and the horse! We've learned and accomplished something together, so we've shared something wonderful! Like most things in life that really matter, the final destination isn't the main thing. The main thing is just to enjoy the process of getting there, and the small victories along the way. If we don't see it that way, we are probably involved in the wrong sport. (Or discipline, pastime, art, or whatever we want to call it.) Two of my favorite channels are The Clever Cowgirl, and Free Spirit Equestrian, because of their attitudes. Both of them have very laid back attitudes, and all they want from the horse they're working with at that moment is for them to try. Any effort at all is worth a million buck$ to them in that moment! And the horses feel that, so they do try! And they always end any session on a positive note, without tiring the horse out or frustrating them. That way the horses always feel positive about it when the next session occurs! I'm really sorry for getting carried away and going on for so long here, but I wish you tons of happy days with your horse! I know you will have them, because you have such a great attitude toward him already. He is a lucky boy, and you are on your way to being a top horsewoman yourself! Best of luck to you both! ❤❤❤
@debbieherbeck9779
@debbieherbeck9779 5 жыл бұрын
How are you giving more of a driving aid?
@DeannaThompsonCorby
@DeannaThompsonCorby 5 жыл бұрын
A momentary let aid, gentle brush of the whip or momentary extra push of the seat.
@magdadaek1826
@magdadaek1826 5 жыл бұрын
Deanna, what would be your advice if you had a horse that is going very fast forward and is leaning on the bit?
@cattymajiv
@cattymajiv 3 ай бұрын
@@magdadaek1826 They never seem to respond to this question. Neither do any of the viewers/commentors. I'm sure they don't know, but unlike me, they don't want go admit it. I freely admit that I don't know!
@oneofamillion4951
@oneofamillion4951 3 ай бұрын
​@magdadaek1826 small half halts while still remaining soft in the hands. Practice first in trot where you can help control the pace with your seat by rising slower. Use 10 and 20 meter circles to slow the horse and bring their focus back on you. Focus on relaxation and a positive relationship with the horse if they are rushing out of nervousness. If you need to, even go back to the walk and focus on the very basics.
@kmiklaszewski
@kmiklaszewski 4 жыл бұрын
Who is the female rider at 1:11
@stellamonika1132
@stellamonika1132 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just a picture from the internet lol
@poupette111
@poupette111 2 жыл бұрын
Driving aids? Or better say a bit that causes pain so you can control him through pain. They are very sensitive to the bit, try one yourself. He leans down because he is trying to release the pain that you are causing. Love is riding without causing pain, ie bitless. That is respect for your beloved horse.
@JavierBonillaC
@JavierBonillaC Жыл бұрын
These are the comments that enlighten us all. Thank you.
@teresawort9124
@teresawort9124 5 жыл бұрын
It's called curling.
@DeannaThompsonCorby
@DeannaThompsonCorby 5 жыл бұрын
Curling is different than leaning. Curling is in reference to a horse going behind the vertical. You will see this difference very clearly if you ever ride a baroque horse, Arabian or Saddlebred especially. These breeds will often curl and NOT be leaning against the bit. Curling and leaning are two completely different things.
@teresawort9124
@teresawort9124 5 жыл бұрын
I get that but the pics you showed was curling. Walking long & low is good for the top line. So you are referring to something totally different.
@DeannaThompsonCorby
@DeannaThompsonCorby 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, some of the photos that I showed in this video are of horses curling and leaning at the same time. What you’re referring to is a horse curling WITHOUT leaning so that you feel like you have nothing in your hands and yet the horse has his chin on his chest. A horse can curl and lean at the same time. Or they can just curl. Or they can just lean and push forward and downward in a RUDE WAY. When a horse stretches forward and downward when encouraged it is absolutely good for their topline. No one is denying that! But when “stretching” turns in to leaning, pulling or ripping the reins out of your hands, that’s a different thing. That’s what this video is about.
@teresawort9124
@teresawort9124 5 жыл бұрын
@@DeannaThompsonCorby oh ok good exanation thank you. Without a doubt my horse isn't leaning.
@natalya402
@natalya402 2 жыл бұрын
If your horse is leaning on the bit, it means that you are pulling on his face. If you want your horse to be soft and supple, you have to be soft and supple.
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