I have had my PS5 since launch, set in the vertical position, and I play it daily for about three hours. So far, I have had no issues at all.

None of us have heard of this issue until last week and we have a bunch of people running around like headless chickens. And shame on the media outlets that ran with this story. 9.9/10 your PS5 will be okay.

had my ps5 for 3 years now just recently opened it up to replace the hdmi port decided to check the paste crap and guess what it never moved the whole time i have had my ps5 and it's been vertical the whole time too so these videos by these ppl are nothing but click bait scare crap to get more views and likes and it's absolutely disgusting. trust me ppl if this was a thing we all would of heard about it way before now, your ps5,s are okay go play ''em and stop worrying

The whole worry about the liquid metal came from what a dude saw in a repair shop. I would think the percentage is extremely small if there are millions sold and he is only seeing a handful with that issue. And who really knows how most of the owners bringing them in actually took care of anything. It might be best on Sony's part to at least see if there is a bad batch that made it into the wild.

I now set it to horizontal position, even though it is not as ideal for my setup I’m not taking any chances.

I'd think if the seal fails it's going to cause problems regardless of the orientation, they would just occur sooner in the vertical position.

Thanks for the reassuring info. I’ve had my ps5 for about a year now and it’s been vertical this whole time. I’ve also played about 400 hours during this time too. Heard this news and was about to move it horizontal (which can work for my set up but I don’t like how it looks) but now i will just leave it. Keep it up!

Everytime he says "Liquid Metal" I can't help but think of Arnold's voice in T2: Judgment Day.

As I've echoed several times, 99% of people are probably going to be fine and never experience an issue. That said, this is definitely more than a few isolated cases. I've seen several myself, and I'm not by any stretch of the imagination a big repair tech. Most of my repairs these days are done for content and bought as faulty on eBay. What I agree with here is Sony definitely does apply too much liquid metal on the PS5, and because of that it causes the liquid to pool up on the left side of the APU. The thing going around about how they're all drop damage consoles is absurd. If you think about it, all it takes is vibrations, give it long enough and that liquid metal will eventually start to seep into other areas. The density does help it, but at the same time I've had cases where there's no evidence at all of any kind of drop, and it's made its' way under the protective foam and under the black gasket (the video that wololo quoted). One problem is wololo did misquote my video, stating I had claimed the console I worked on was stored without being used at all. That wasn't true, and has since been corrected. What I said in my video three months ago was that the console hadn't been opened by a technican, and that the seals were in tact so the only way it could have leaked was through natural causes. It's amazing though how so many people, uneducated people (not yourself) are weighing in on this without any knowledge of how the system is built. Not only that but the amount of non tech channels, such as gaming channels, who are creating videos just for the views. This will all blow over, in my opinion it's been way over hyped. But I'll take the free traffic from it all the same 🤣

My PS5 has always been vertical since launch. hopefully it can stay that way It's way to big to lay horizontal

I have a day 1 PS5. It’s been in a horizontal position for the most part. It gets heavy use. I haven’t experienced any issues. I’d be interested to see what the liquid mental looks like in mine but I expect if I opened it up to take a look I would go from a PS5 that works perfectly fine to a broken one 😂

And this makes sense Jon. Great explanation. My theory is that for the one's that were affected, if it wasn't tampered with by opening it and messing with the components, those units were probably shipped with little to no barrier around the liquid metal chip and compound, because it could have somehow broken down in transit. And just happening to have it in the vertical orientation was enough to short the whole board. And if it indeed IS an overheating issue, you would have to wonder where people would have their console in their setup, whether it was in cabinet or not, regardless of the orientation.

The main challenge Sony had was to find a way to automate liquid metal application. Anyone who has ever used this material knows how hard it is to get it to 'byte' originally. The issue here, which is valid, is that the PS5 has about twice the liquid metal that is needed for a chip! This means that it pools and moves and, unlike your PS4 Pro application that you did, it is the excess that would cause the concern. I have done many chips and never had this issue but you literally use a pin-head of liquid metal on the cpu and also the heatsink (non aluminum obviously). So the risk doesn't surprise me and there would be a greater risk of overheat or leak just due to the sheer amount of the liquid used. If the seals hold then cool but LM also attracts LM so it 'pools' and it may drag more LM from the chip as it pools at the bottom. LM gets absorbed into copper as well so there are a bunch of variables but I don't think you can compare the automated LM application on a PS5 to what you did on your PS4 Pro! If done in the right amount and with the right care there should be zero risk (bar that of how other metals react to LM over time). So I don't find this risk on a PS5 unwarranted due to HOW the LM is applied and how MUCH they use! They also don't use a resin layer over the caps close to the die and opted for a plastic tape type thing, which doesn't guarantee it won't leak. If you drop, or give the PS5 enough of a jolt it could unsettle the seals in place and cause it to to stop working. So yeah, risks are minimal but there are risks none-the-less, and anyone who has used LM will see that what Sony has done actually increases the risk of leakage or overheating over time. Great video and I don't think panic is needed, but horizontal placement should be 'advised' for long term ownership IMHO.

I've been watching TronicsFix repair PS5s for a couple of years now, the only ones with liquid metal issues were the ones worked on before he got them, by people that didn't know how to handle it, oh and one that had been run over by a car, one dropped down a 10 story stairway. (On purpose for a KZfaq video)

Ive had my PS5 since April of 2020, and “knock on wood” it performs quite well. The only issue I’ve had is sometimes i get something that sounds like coil whine but cycling the power on the system corrects that, it inly ever happened after turning back on from rest mode never from a cold boot. I sometimes use my PS5 or leave it on for hours at a time snd it works just fine. I have. Series X as well and despite the very first one shipped to me didn’t work the next one Microsoft sent works just as well well as my PS5. I know the Liquid Metal story came from a repair shop owner, got picked up by the media and overblown much like everything else the media touches does. I said to myself if the PS5 has been out since 2020 and this hasn’t been an issue until now, for one it might not affect launch models, and/or its a small sample size that affected some users such as Microsoft’s having some Series X’s with PSU issues and not turning on. If it was as big as the media over blew more people would have complained already and there would no doubt be a class action and there hasn’t been any (yet) so its most likely overblown by a repair tech thats trying to get some attention by saying something crazy.

Always kept all my consoles horizontal anyway. My PS5 is horizontal but damn, it is big and hard to find a spot

I’ve had my ps5 since launch standing vertical This entire time and have played extensively. Zero issues with it.

For the PS4 Pro it's the ram that makes the fan spin really fast. Just replace the thermal paste with thermal paste and use Minus 8 pads of the same size on the ram. Completely eliminates high fan spin. Test with Horizon Zero Dawn game.

I think the biggest risk by far is before it gets into stores. Like with a mix of production and shipping, there's a much, MUCH higher chance of something going wrong than being in a still position at your house. Still nowhere near a RRoD and not even at yellow light of death territory

The liquid metal looks like a terminator face, if you look close enough 6:03

It has nothing to do with the vertical position.

Same as others I have had my console since launch vertically. I also have a disc system since June 2021, again vertical. No issues thus far. I am seeing this more as a "could happen" situation if there was a defect in the system when it was put together, like most any other tech imo.

I just got a PS5 for Christmas, I absolutely want to do everything I can to take care of it This has been really irritating to understand what to do, I appreciate you going through this

I've been waiting for you to cover this 🤩

As always, don't really care if there's a problem with a device as long as the companies willing to replace it. Defects happen. It's the response that matters

Would love to see a video of you replacing the liquid metal with regular thermal paste to see if any differences

am I the only one that sees the terminator cop face in the liquid metal at 5:57, I have also heard that dropping the system can cause spillage of liquid metal.

alright this is weird but i do think horizontal keeps ur system cooler honestly cuz about 18months of daily ps5 us my ps5 did start shutting down after 2 or 3 gameplay hours and i went to unscrew the base while the ps5 was in vertical standing and that metal screw you tighten was abnormally hot. i sat my ps5 in the horizontal position ever since and it works great still never shutting down and still super quite.

My PS5 was purchased in October 2021, and since then, I didn't encounter any sort of problem related to overheating. The only time I noticed some issues with this was when I played Sonic Frontiers, the PS5 got pretty hot and the fan started kicking up a bit, but that probably has something to do with the optimisation of the game itself or maybe with the fact I didn't use the PS5 for about two months before playing Frontiers.

I think this is a good thing to be brought since it's something that can happen but until it's mass report by multiple people than won't be something to worry about

Arctic Silver used to be conductive (AS3). I learned that one the hard way.

Love your videos! You helped me get my Switch online with a wired connection. I’m about to connect an SSD to my PS5. Do I have anything to worry about?

Thanks for this Jon, I trust your judgment on this one. Until this becomes a known widespread issue like RRoD I think people are just way overreacting. Mine will be staying vertical as not only does it just look better standing up, but I would have to rearrange my entire gaming space to accommodate it laying down

ive used liquid metal on so many things and never had a single issue with any of it. been using it since Haswell.

I have my ps5 vertical for 2 years now and no issues so far, nice video mate😃👍thanks

5:58 The most dangerous part about this liquid metal is it looks like a T-1000 Terminator is about to come out.

I appreciate your videos calmly trying to explain to people what’s going on with this Liquid Metal problem. It’s a good way to stop people from going into hysterics about their PS5s.

If your PS5 overheats then there are dry spots on the die where there is no LM . Also when assembling the PS5 they put the LM on then flip the motherboard over to install into the PS5 housing. So during that flip LM could potentially escape out of it's foam plastic border.

For keeping my PS5 lasting longer I 1). Turn it off at the powerboard (and pull the plug out while not using it), and 2). Place a "pillow slip" over my "vertical" set up so it doesn't accumulate dust. That's all I can do to to maintain it (well, I don't know if the pillow slip idea actually works - lol). Otherwise while I'm playing a game on disc I pump up the air conditioning in my room. All I can hope for is for the longest life-span of my console as possible. But I think it's already a yes to upgrade to a PS5 Slim or Pro when released, So hopefully - Sony will have definitely learnt some important things by the time they pump out their next pressed consoles.

Ive had my console since launch. It has been vertical the whole time. I have had no issues with it. I did put it horizontal after this news came out but I will be putting it back vertical honestly. I think its more of how the consoles have been treated by people. Ive told people who Ive bought them for to make sure they don't bang them around to much. I would guess the shock would allow the metal to seep pasted the barriers if it was jarred hard enough.

Literally do not believe the rumours. I've opened mine up and it's absolutely fine. It's been standing up since release day and it has been knocked over a few times but it's absolutely perfect inside

Had mine day one horizontal. Only issue I have is on Some AAA games it gives of a slight melting plastic smell it doesn't studdar or drop frames and plays fine.

I've had my ps5 about 2 years now and after a year of having it, it started switching itself off after around 30 mins of gameplay on a ps5 game I noticed after playing a ps4 game on my ps5 it ran fine and didn't crash it was only switching off running ps5 games it turns out there is bit of a flaw in the design as the power supply vent holes are quite small and are prone to blocking about 80% of the holes were blocked So the power supply unit would overheat when more strenuously used ie more power needed for ps5 games and not so much power used playing ps4 games so it wasn't the system overhearing hence why I wasn't getting overheating warnings before it switched off so yeah took it apart and cleaned everything and it hasn't crashed once since. Maybe people have taken their ps5s apart but accidentally unscrewed the heatsink by mistake causing the liquid metal to leak 🤔

Everyone should have it horizontal now. It's common sense. You have liquid, and theres thermal expansion happening over and over again around a seal that is not tough enough. And the liquid metal will pool at the bottom of seal.

I’ve had no issues setting my PS5 vertically. I’ve had my PS5 since launch. So my system is now 2 years and a couple months old.

It was advertised vertically I remember watching the showcase that revealed the ps5 and it was vertical . I think it was designed for that way if they showcased it like that just a thought 🤷🏽‍♂️

Have had my PS5 for over a year now and no issues. Most of that time it was vertical and just changed it recently when I got a new entertainment center.

Even if this only affects a small percentage I'm not going to take the risk so it's going to be horizontal from now on at least until I get a pro or slim version.

Hmm, this story has me wondering if I should figure out a way to mount it horizontally. It would take some doing and hopefully will leave enough space on the side that used to be the top for adequate heat dispersal.

5:49 the Liquid Metal looks like it formed a face in the middle lol

I just got mine in November so hopefully it’ll be all good. I don’t have room for it to be horizontal 😅

My opinion is why risk it. If you can lay it horizontal then why not? Its not going to hurt anything especially if the vertical thing is true.

Talked about a lot? 2 consoles supposedly have had the issue, out of 30 million sold. What’s with the blowing out of proportion lately? You’d thing it’s the next Red Ring or Yellow Light of death with the way it’s been framed.

After all that, I still don't really understand if we should not worry about it at all...

It would be interesting to see a test where you replace the liquid metal on a PS5 with Arctic Silver. How hotter would it get?

Honestly this reminds me of all the miss info around original phat model PS3s. It’ll be interesting to see where this goes

I've had my PS5 since launch as well initially I had it horizontal for aesthetic purposes but eventually I put it in verticle position after about 6 months and that ps5 runs between 2 amd 8 hours a day no issues yet.

Just bought a PS5 not too long ago. I'm really hoping I don't run into any issues with how long I was trying to buy one.

There is always the risk of this with liquid metal, its pretty unavoidable for a handfull of systems have issues. Doesnt seem like a big problem, and im just gonna send it and keep it vertical. If it dies it dies I mostly play on PC anyways. Unrelated my PS5 has pretty bad coil whine so thats fun.

I'm thinking it's just because players are on it for a long period of time and/or not having it in a well air circulated area.

my first PS5 which had never been opened before has suffered with this the liquid metal had gotten under the foam piece, Sony wanted silly money to repair but had it done locally for a fraction of the cost.

Had the 11xx model and no problems with it being vertical even after some of my longer play time.

I don't have a PS5 yet but when I do, I plan on keeping it horizontal as I have with all of my consoles. I mean back in the day, there was the concern that setting a console vertically might scratch up the disc and well, that was true but only when people moved the console while it was turned on. This report about liquid metal seeping out of the sides and causing catastrophic failure is concerning. It would be interesting if Sony would give an official statement. It would also be interesting if it turns out this rumored 'D Chassis' PS5 model quietly further gets redesigned to minimize this being a problem.

I have to keep my consoles horizontal anyway because my furry menace likes to get into trouble and rather than risk her knocking them over, they’re on their sides. Where she promptly sleeps on them.

8:38 this is exactly what i was thinking, with my limited knowledge.

I've had mine a few months in vertical. Saw the possible flaw, turned it to horizontal. Yeah it could be fine, but what if I'm wrong?

Idk but i turned that damn thing horizontal regardless of how ugly it looks

I wonder if Sony will ditch the liquid metal solution when they inevitably redesign the system for the PS5 Slim variant (hopefully in 2023).

5:36 i just saw T1000 of T2 Judgement day😂😂

On my yearly wrap up for 2022 i had almost 2050 hours (not a typo 😂) on my PS5 and was vertical the whole time. Played in same vertical orientation in 2021 since i had gotten my PS5 on 4/20. I have also opened mine up and totally disassembled for a deep clean.

I wonder if there’s something else more to the issue that’s not being correlated. Something that in a controlled test environment you don’t catch, but in the real world shows it’s ugly head. Maybe more humid climates?, how about ones that run hotter from dust or hair?, smoking or vaping near one messing with the seal? Any other ideas?

This was very coincidental for me. Mine shut off suddenly one night during a play session, and it felt very hot. The next day i took it apart and saw that it was very dusty, but my friend also sent me the liquid metal article that was going around that same day. I took out my fan and removed all the dust i saw and laid it down horizontally instead of vertically. So far it's been great. This makes me wonder. I keep mine in a decently open area, but having it since launch I've never cleaned out the dust internally. How many of these reports are people who also never cleaned it and keep it in enclosed spaces? After watching this video I'm thinking it had more to do with it being dusty, so I'll probably stand it back up (fits better in my room). If anything, I'm thinking this is a lesson in maintenance.

Mine has been placed in vertical position the majority of the 2 years I had it. I had one time where the PS5 had a weird boot-up, but restarting it fixed it and had no problems since.

I picked up my PS4 PRO used. It sounded like a deranged hovercraft when playing anything. After a great deep clean, replacing all thermal pads, and installing IC graphite, it's super quiet. Zero heat issues.

Wear & Tear and Tolerances apply here. So my guess is that when it heats up, the tolerances give way a space for a leak to occur, and if there's out of spec quantity of liquid metal, then you get the leak.

It's going to interesting see how Sony counters this issue as they promote the PS5 vertically. I've been putting the PS5 vertically due to it taking less space. But I might have to put it horizontal due to this issue, can't risk it.

My 1st ps5 stopped sending out a video signal . It still would power on ,but after a bit it would just go into rest mode with nothing ever going to the display .

5:55 liquid metal looks like absorber man

Foam and plastic in general degrades over time. So I would say. After a few years of heat. The foam will deteriorate and eventually turn brittle. At which point maybe the liquid metal will start dripping out

Classic FUD. There’s 30M of these things out there and we’re just hearing some reports of this being an issue 2 years in. Not concerned at all.

Make sure your warranties is up to par just in case so if it does it isn't a told loss also I have the horizon ps5 had no problems but after this I turned mines horizontal cause of it and it's just so unappealing to look at now 😅

Let's assume it only affects like 2% of all PS5s produced. Do I wanna risk mine to see if it's on this percentage or not? Nope, it's horizontal forever now.

Ive had my ps5 vertical, will continue to do so

My ps4 pro was loud fresh out of the box, I recently changed the thermal paste and now I struggle to even hear its running.

I have to keep my PS5 horizontal because the shelf it's on is too low for it to be upright. Ironically I wanted it upright for a while but I'll keep it flat until we hear more about whether this is a "real" issue or just people worrying about nothing

Had mine vertical for a little over a year and it still runs fine. Though it recently started infrequently dropping frames when I'm watching something, be it streaming or a physical disc, until I pause and unpause it. Playing a game? Runs perfectly smooth. Watching a bluray or something on Netflix? It's gonna look choppy at random moments. Doubt that has anything to do with the system being vertical, though.

I'm not taking the risk anymore of placing it vertical. Even though right now the problem might be a fluke I still feel like years down the line that liquid metal and the thin foam around it is going to cause issues.

I wonder if it was because of the heat wave last year 🤔 I know the UK had one last year. Not sure about any where else.

Mine has been in a vertical position for over a year and i don’t have room to put horizontally. I’m just gonna have to leave it that way. The PS5 was designed to be vertical and i just don’t think this gonna be a widespread issue like the Xbox 360 RRoD.

I’ve had mine for less than a year setup vertically and just caught wind of this yesterday. My console has been sitting atop my subwoofer this whole time and I got concerned that the vibrations may cause an issue. It’s now horizontal and yes I had to rearrange half the room to accommodate this 😂.

I did put my ps5 down horizontally after hearing this news just to be safe. At least in that position, I don't have the issue of putting the disc backwards.

I got the PS5 thru Amazon Pre Order the day of the announcement (pre orders opened one day before they were supposed to, ot was a mess, whatever.) The point is I received as soon as humanly possible and I have had it vertically operating almost daily with no problems. I have racked up hundreds of hours of Elden Ring and Sims 4 which famously ask a lot of the system. Never had an issue. I am actually considering I should do the vacuum cleaning thing by removing the plates, but I have never done it even once.

had mine on the first wave launch and i had to send my ps5 back twice but good thing is they fixed it for free i did have it in vertical stance when it would randomly shut off playing ps5 games but it would work for awhile without turning off horizontally.

Anyone removed the liquid metal and just use Arctic Silver yet? I'm wondering what the differences would be! 👍

I’m still not convinced. It was meant to be upright by design

Delidded my i7 7700k using thermal grizzly's liquid metal conductonaut at ltx 2019, been running near nonstop since then with 0 issues. Should probably check it, might just be the conformal coating doing its job.

Just recently buy a PS5 and i want to know if it just a normal thing because the consoles had a "crack crack" sound either it was on and off.Also want to know if the PS5 gave a grease smell if the liquid start leaking?

You should do a video on how well the PS5 runs with thermal paste. Hopefully it won't be an expensive video lol

Not PS5, but I remember looking into having a setup with my laptop vertical, and there were testimonies that liquid metals may leak since generally laptops weren't designed to prevent that in the long run. Scared the crap out of me, so I didnt risk it. So, I can totally see it happening to PS5. It seems Sony did add a pretty good containment for it though.

I got a PS5 around Black Friday and wasn't sure as I kinda wanted to wait for a Slim/pro to come out but it was available and since it was self present for my Birthday I never opened it and decided to return it yesterday after much thought and seeing talk about the possible liquid metal issues, I was like "I better wait and maybe SONY would have figure it out if really needed to be figure out" that being said I have a bunch of PS4 games I can play in the meanwhile and a few Switch and even Wii ones I'll be able to spend some time on waiting for the Slim/Pro version next Christmas or Next Year.