Is Your SPINNING REEL Actually Made For Saltwater?

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Here's something most people don't know...
Your "saltwater spinning reel" isn't actually made for saltwater.
Or at least this is true for many of you.
Many reels that we use are just "regular" spinning reels that we saltwater anglers have fallen in love with.
So here's the question: what's the difference between a bass reel and a saltwater reel?
And are there any regulations or ratings?
That's exactly what we talked about in this eye-opening video with all of the Salt Strong Fishing Coaches.
Here's what we covered:
- Whether or not you actually need a "saltwater spinning reel" (and what makes a saltwater spinning reel)
- The surprising pros and cons of a saltwater resistant reel
- How the most popular brands compare on this topic (Daiwa vs. Shimano vs. Penn)
- Which reels are our fishing coaches' favorites
- And much more
If you're a spinning reel nerd like we are, then you're going to love this video!
Have any questions about saltwater spinning reels?
What's your favorite reel?
Let us know down in the comments!
And check out the blog post here for a time-stamped list of what we covered and links to other videos and reels: bit.ly/3sY3dTw

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@Saltstrong 3 жыл бұрын

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@kweeks10045 3 жыл бұрын

I've seen this subject come up numerous times, even among some of my friends that grew up fishing saltwater. They buy a reel and then bad mouth it when it doesn't hold up for 12 months. But that old Penn 712z lasted 20 years. Maintenance is more important than ever, especially since the tolerances have gotten tighter and people expect silky smooth and whisper quiet. The hard part is when you see companies like Daiwa and Shimano produce reels that require special tools and lubricants to service the reel. Magnetic oil for instance. Nonetheless, great video and hopefully a bunch of people will realize that most of the gear at the local Academy or Dick's is really made for Freshwater or is just a "disposable" reel.

@rickleyh2192 3 жыл бұрын

Hey guys, I love these round tables that you do on various common subjects. There’s always something of value to pick up and apply. Keep it up.

@blacktidelures7067 3 жыл бұрын

I don't care who makes the reel or what it's rated for, I open every reel up straight out of the box and re-grease and re-oil it. You'd be amazed how poorly even the more expensive reels are lubricated from the factory. Staying on top of preventative maintenance is key with any object in a salt environment.

@joegrande4848 Жыл бұрын

I too always oil an grease all my reels. Also 2x a year I change line clean reels oil an grease all my reels.

@hadjilover 3 жыл бұрын

you guys keep saying VEE EYE - it's a spinfisher 6 - roman numerals right?

@TimNye850 3 жыл бұрын

The new guy did great, give him a hat.

@HanSoloxcs 3 жыл бұрын

Def

@jimfournier9065 Ай бұрын

I live in Connecticut, so my fishing is a little different than you guys, however, I really enjoy listening to your videos and learning and trying to bring that knowledge to my fishing whether it be freshwater or saltwater! Are you going to start a club for New England soon! Jim

@FloridaBoyGrizz 3 жыл бұрын

My guys always dropping knowledge thanks guys !

@wdinarte 3 жыл бұрын

I just came across this channel and learned a lot, I am a mix fresh and salt water guy... that is being a problem trying to find a good fishing reels for salt water that work well and don’t brake the bank.😂 Van Stalls are the price of one mortgage to me 😂😂 nice conversation guys, and like some of you I been there and do that. 🤙🏻👏🏼

@LittleTree74 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! I have been analyzing the same thing. I am a loyal Shimano customer and some of their "Freshwater" reels still mention saltwater capabilities in the description. I agree with the Sedona comment...I have one from 2004, and it is still going strong here in the Mississippi Gulf Coast. best quality for value.. now I am a big NASCI fan. But plan to get a couple Vanford C3000s for my primary reel.

@therealnicknowosiwsky7233 3 жыл бұрын

This was very helpful. Thank you!

@garyb4929 3 жыл бұрын

Great & interesting discussion, good points on maintenance I didn't know.

@alanleealanlee 3 жыл бұрын

awesome content. happy to get to nerd out about the specifics of the "SW" in spinning reels. I'm no expert but I'm gonna agree with one of the panelists in that the "SW" reels are mostly for offshore applications? Also on the Shimano Japan website most of the reels specify under 'technical characteristics' as "海水 OK" which translates to "Salt Water OK" which tells me that most of the reels are saltwater suitable.

@michaelhornung7266 3 жыл бұрын

Good stuff. Appreciate the discussion

@julian9579 3 жыл бұрын

get the old penn spinfishers from the ss series that where still made in the us and do some upgrades to bearings, line roller (from the newer versions), ht100 drag, new handle, and infinite antireverse (machining needed) and you got the best reel in the world that will never break and you can use the smallest 420ss for ultralight fishing but it can handle fishes that a shimano or daiwa that are twice the size would struggle with 😂😁 its really the best reel ever made 😁 my best reels so far was a shimano vanquish and i had a stella for a week and the peen just feels supirior to them you just got that confidence of knowing its not going to fail at any point and the maitenence is really easy on it 😁 i would highly reccomend buying one if you can get it for under 100$

@raulfernandez3137 3 жыл бұрын

Great conversation, I think that spending a little more on gear makes all the difference and your focus will be more on fishing and quality of fishing. 👍

@edwardrodriguez8687 3 жыл бұрын

Big Penn spinfisher V and VI angler. IMO, the best workhorse spinning reel on the market. Takes a lickin and keeps on tickin 👍

@redouanepeche 3 жыл бұрын

Well done my fisherman friend, your information is great, I wish you an abundant catch

@nivenniven9108 3 жыл бұрын

Hi to all of you my master you all talk about all the the famous brand i have a bigg fan all wht you all use and learn a lot with you all pls did somone of you did ever try the pioner rexo made in japan for salt water ?

@teetimeaz Жыл бұрын

How about some videos on maintenance for kayak drives, boats, reels and other fishing equipment? Oils used, grease, etc.

@Saltstrong Жыл бұрын

Great suggestion! We'll send that to the team to see about adding that type of content to their lists! Thanks!

@earlkalas9301 3 жыл бұрын

What about the Saragosa, that seems like a crowd favorite under 300???

@ryanfish8560 3 жыл бұрын

My stratic ci4+ I've fished it all salt water hard for 5 years even dunked it. never serviced it besides the line roller bearing. Not a spec of corrosion on the hardware atleast on the outside. still reels silky smooth. I really need to service it tho. Just got a heavier outfit a twin power 8000 sw let's see how it holds up

@aaronhiggs 3 жыл бұрын

So you’re saying that I should stick with my Van Stall Vr 50 and my Penn Slammer 3. Thanks guys lol.

@frankiev-tech4630 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with Tony! He knows the Stradic FL is the best but he has to agree with the Ballistic.😅

@leroymarshalljr.9981 3 жыл бұрын

This is a deep topic. My question is are Penn International or Shimano equivalent reels of the same components of fresh water reels. This is a deep topic of conversation.

@RRFISHING1 3 жыл бұрын

Love my SW Penn reels

@chazman4461 3 жыл бұрын

My BG gold did not hold up well. I went for a swim with it off the kayak. I washed it out really good that day. A few weeks later it was really stiff and the anti reverse switch would not work. Sent it out for service and the inside was horribly corroded.

@Saltstrong 3 жыл бұрын

The BG reels do not have the magseal technology so they aren't as good at withstanding saltwater exposure as the ones that do.

@scoobysreellife4259 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a way for us to add any kind of these oils that you are talking about being in these saltwater reels to a freshwater reel for added protection?

@robertrodriguez3039 3 жыл бұрын

I like that you are as truthfully as possible but still have to make a little money in this sport Thanks for all advice I fish a lot and haven’t had a real seizure yet but I do Maintnace and corrosion x frequently Mostly a penn guy and little shimano

@ronpowell7236 3 жыл бұрын

I fish a Zee Baas,Penn Torque& a VanStall is your reel as good as mine?

@maasai- 2 жыл бұрын

That’s alot of infos. great individuals, ball bearings is usually what count for good sealing, as a shimano n penn guy , my old issue with shimano is only the line roller bbs, now that they’ve claimed xprotect for it , i hope it’d last alot longer, still hate the magseal gimmik thing, a reel u can’t take it apart is not friendly enough.

@tonyshoeball7759 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just starting getting into bigboy reels, and I got 3 Shimanos, the bait runner(my surf), saragosa(pier/general), and nasci(in shore). But I think next few reels I might drop some money on Daiwa after this and a few friends' recommendations.

@stevejones9636 2 жыл бұрын

i would not, stick with shimano best warranty daiwa lasts maybe 12 mnths for there top of the range

@justinszuch6184 3 жыл бұрын

I like my fuego way better than my shimano ci4. The diawa backbay is heavy but amazing. Another great video.

@Saltstrong 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making time to leave the comment Justin!

@Tallnerdyguy 2 жыл бұрын

While i don't fish in the salt, i fish in the worlds finest sand... I have ruined 3 UL reels trying to fish from rivers (in AZ) and am looking for a light and sealed reel (1000-2000 size) ruined a daiwa fuego piscifun carbon X (it was only $30) and a daiwa regal LT. While i understand that sand and salt water are massively different (particle size) i am looking for a sand resistant reel (about $200 if it will last more than 6 months) I only fish in freshwater. I have a Nasci and Stradic FL and am afraid to take them into the sand. They are also 3000 and 4000 size, so they are a bit large/heavy for my ultralight backpack (my river is about a 2 mile walk from the road)

@PartnerProAlliance 3 жыл бұрын

What about ceramic ball bearings? Do they last longer. Have you ever tested switching the bearings out for ceramic?

@RevIt66 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know about reels but have used them in high end r/c race cars and one bit a dirt and they are buggered, was an expensive lesson, lol

@user-jo6yn4xj8c 5 ай бұрын

I HAVE 3 DAIWA GS9 GOLD USE FOR SALT WATER FISHING MAINLY ON THE BEACH ,ROCK FISHING (1 STILL IN THE BOX) I SERVICE THEM ONCE YEAR STILL GOING

@jelly_fishing 3 жыл бұрын

Great discussion on a topic that I never considered

@aaronwilder9643 2 жыл бұрын

Marine grade bearing grease goes a long way. I'm still yak fishing with a $50 reel 8 years later.

@jplee3 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting take on the Vanford vs Ballistic. But what about when it comes down to maintenance of the Ballistic and if you ever need to replace the Magseal fluid? The Magseal fluid doesn't seem easily obtainable and seems like it might be cost prohibitive if it is. Also, Daiwa parts don't seem as readily or easily obtainable in general compared to Shimano. I brought my Fuego to Hawaii and it think I dunked it or had saltwater intrusion at some point and you could feel a difference in the retrieve after. That said, I use my Fuego often in the surf and like it a lot. But I need to get some Magseal oil for it haha. Almost forgot about the dreaded "screw of death" that Daiwa employs in many of their reels - I ran into one of these on the old Coastal 153H I tore down. I think there's one on the Fuego too.

@aaronhiggs 3 жыл бұрын

Mag seal is junk. It’s a gimmick. You can’t even get the fluid.

@jplee3 3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronhiggs I actually just tore my Fuego LT down over the weekend. Fished it on Saturday and noticed it was 'squeaky' retrieving. Opened it up and found the magnet in the magseal plate/cover ((part J68-8201) corroding and deteriorating. The replacement part will likely cost $15+ and I'm not even sure where to purchase the Magseal fluid at a reasonable cost. It's on Ebay and costs like $50~!!! Cost to repair this reel would likely be what I paid for it :T

@aaronhiggs 3 жыл бұрын

@@jplee3 Yeap. That’s such a junky thing for Daiwa to do. Basically makes lower end mag seal reels disposable.

@jplee3 3 жыл бұрын

FWIW some guys at alan tani's website have mentioned having good success with Ferrotec's ferrofluid APG L11 - it may not be the exact formula but it works well according to multiple users. Ferrotec appears to be the supplier of magseal fluid, without anyone ever actually confirming this 100%

@chavez1731 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Guys! I follow you here from Brazil and I can say that it is the best fishing content on the internet!

@Travis7919 3 жыл бұрын

I was kayak fishing pacific ocean for one year with Shimano Exage 2500 and I was amazed how well this reel stand it. No corrosion, no issues, no brainer. Since then I dont care if any reel fits to any category just because of marketing.

@Charsept 3 жыл бұрын

Went from a Battle 2 to a BG. Both good. Dunked the Battle a bit so it's not 100%

@dudeonacow9917 3 жыл бұрын

Wyatt saying "I am not sure what that means." when talking about liters was kinda funny to me, I don't know why.

@kevinyim8880 3 жыл бұрын

Never liked the term "fresh" or "salt" water reel. By nature, all reels will corrode, just matter of time and how it's sealed/maintained. My oldest reel that I still use is a freshwater reel that never saw freshwater. BTW, IPX means nothing in moving parts. The rating is based on sealed stagnant pressure and definitely and certainly not saltwater condition.

@mbari6963 3 жыл бұрын

Hey all!!! I’m really curious as to why the Tsunami spinning reels don’t ever make the conversation. The Shield claims to have several water resistant seals and is right in the price range of the Fuego, BG and others. Any reason for this? Love the videos BTW. Been binge watching since the weekend.

@Gio-nl7eg 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with what you just said

@blacktidelures7067 3 жыл бұрын

They are sealed up pretty well, but the overall quality of the components is lower than that of the other reels you mentioned. I was looking into buying one at a local shop, and the anti-reverse was malfunctioning straight out of the box. Turned me off of them until QC improves.

@Julianuribe23 3 жыл бұрын

Cause it's a crap reel lol

@Gio-nl7eg 3 жыл бұрын

@@Julianuribe23 so other than the anti reverse that the last comment mentioned. What else is crap about them?

@Julianuribe23 3 жыл бұрын

@@Gio-nl7eg way too many things to even mention. The sealing sucks, the gears blow out easily, the drag is weak and sticky. All my buddies that got one regret it. Get a Shimano or even a Penn lol

@donbloodworth3144 3 жыл бұрын

My reels are all fresh water. I've used them for saltwater for past 7 years. I rinse and grease them after saltwater fishing. I have never had a problem with any. Abu, penn, lews, zebco, and several off brands, take care of reel and it works for any water.

@dwalker223outdoors9 3 жыл бұрын

This is true, but the benefit of buying better quality reels is you don’t have to worry about them. And can fish for months without servicing them.

@Stevefrump 3 жыл бұрын

@@dwalker223outdoors9 yep. I don't even rinse my stradics most of the time. I get them serviced at least once a year and they last years.

@dwalker223outdoors9 3 жыл бұрын

@@Stevefrump yeah, I’ve accidentally dunked a stradic fk, and haven’t opened it up in months, just rinsed it with fresh water and it seems fine. Most used reel I own. Currently have 4 of the new stradic FL reels and they are without a doubt a step up, from the FK.

@Stevefrump 3 жыл бұрын

@@dwalker223outdoors9 Glad you like the FL. I have the fk and fi as well as earlier stradics. I love them. You are swaying me toward the FL but I'm tempted by the vanford for the weight reduction. I wade a bunch and use 4000s. I could benefit from the lighter weight but I hesitate because I've never had issues with the traditional stradic.

@dwalker223outdoors9 3 жыл бұрын

@@Stevefrump the stradic also offers higher gear ratios, and from what I’ve read, can handle bigger fish better

@joeross952 3 жыл бұрын

Zebco 202 all plastic inside. The grandkids kids break them long before the salt damages them.

@leroymarshalljr.9981 3 жыл бұрын

You guys are big time.

@bliss235 3 жыл бұрын

Thank for telling me tha

@michaelfoley1966 3 жыл бұрын

And that’s why I only use van staal for saltwater

@57tubeviewer 3 жыл бұрын

I was a huge fan of the Daiwa Fuego until--. Fishing from a kayak, I managed to dunk my Fuego in the bay. It seized up a few trips later. My Fuego has been at Daiwa for cleaning and servicing for five weeks now. Their fee will be !/2 the original cost--if they ever finish it. So much for Daiwa. My Pfleuger Presidents last at least as long at 1/2 the price; and the turnaround if they need service is about a week or so; with comparable cost.

@iancampbell1494 3 жыл бұрын

but have you dunked your pflueger? Honest question

@57tubeviewer 3 жыл бұрын

@@iancampbell1494 Yeah. The reel cost half as much originally. Service cost half as much, and turnaround was half the time.

@iancampbell1494 3 жыл бұрын

@@57tubeviewer I love the president but I use it for fresh water mostly but I’ve never dunked mine

@HossoFishing 2 жыл бұрын

Hey guy's look up stella 1000 fj 20lb snapper challenge on you tube its from NZ might interest you..

@chuckschillingvideos Жыл бұрын

Manufacturers have to pay to obtain an IPX rating, so they don't submit every reel for certification - only the ones they know will achieve the certification desired and which will be marketed using this rating.

@Saltstrong Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info

@joegrande4848 Жыл бұрын

What the tackle expert says I'd like a reel constructed in a way the structure as well as chemical or scientific way to protect the reel. To have both those aspects covored

@Saltstrong Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@leroymarshalljr.9981 3 жыл бұрын

Big corporations always find ways to get over.

@richardsmith1674 3 жыл бұрын

Don’t be too quick to bash the vanford. It’s basically the same as the Stradic fl but with the ci4 body. It’s nothing like the old Stradic ci4. I’ve taken the fl and vanford apart and everything is 99% the same.

@js4391 3 жыл бұрын

For freshwater reel in 2500-3000 size what reel would u recommend.

@richardsmith1674 3 жыл бұрын

@@js4391 3000

@drunknnirish 3 жыл бұрын

Bashing the Vanford and pushing the Balistic shows a complete lack of knowledge on how x protect works. I would take x protect over mag seal any day of the week. Neither will do well after being completely submerged but a normal human can service x protect.

@goodluckbryan5421 3 жыл бұрын

How do you have a 45-minute conversation about saltwater spinning reels and not mention Van Staal, Zeebass, Tsunami SaltX, etc? Don't use price as an excuse; collectively all of your saltwater reels in your arsenal could buy several Van Staals.

@iancampbell1494 3 жыл бұрын

but the answer is literally price. Dont ask a question just to immediately dismiss the answer. Why in the world would I, as a recreational fisherman, spend over 500$ on a fishing reel when my penn pursuit and Penn fierce have lasted plenty of time, caught plenty of fish, and still function just fine?... Why would I spend more to achieve the same purpose? Not to mention, I could just get a saltiga or a slammer. My grandpa has a five year old Pflueger president that has only ever seen salt water and it works just fine.

@drunknnirish 3 жыл бұрын

I think if you are surf fishing Van Staal and Zeebass are in the conversation for sure. For inshore they simply aren't needed as a Stradic FL will do anything an inshore fisherman needs.

@dwalker223outdoors9 3 жыл бұрын

Conflict reels are garbage. I’ve had 2 fail within a year from saltwater. Not sealed at all. Same with the clash. Slammer and spin fisher are. New shimano stradic date sealed almost as well as a spin fisher and way lighter and smoother. Pretty sure you have to get the USA made penn reels to be sealed

@aaronhiggs 3 жыл бұрын

The Slammer 3 and spinfisher are made in China and are sealed. I have a slammer3 4500 and love it.

@dwalker223outdoors9 3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronhiggs I know some of the slammers where made in the USA. I know the spinfisher and slammer are sealed just thought they were USA made. Guess not.

@dwalker223outdoors9 3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronhiggs I also have a slammer 3 5500 and love that beast as well.

@kerrydeshotels9691 3 жыл бұрын

Are the older Spinfishers sealed too?

@Julianuribe23 3 жыл бұрын

@@kerrydeshotels9691 the 5th and current gen are