Reading Isaiah 7:1-22 , 8: 1-8 reading in context is Killing the new Testament

In context Isaiah is speaking about a specific young woman who will become pregnant during the life time of Isaiah and King Ahaz. A miraculous virgin birth that supposedly took place over 560 years later would be irrelevant to Ahaz, who required a sign prior to an imminent military invasion. Christians attempt to avoid this problem by claiming that this is a “double level prophesy” that happens both during the time of Ahaz and again in the time of Jesus. If Christians want to believe that the word Almah means a virgin and simultaneously claim a “double level prophesy” they would have to believe that a virgin birth took place in the time of Ahaz. However, this never occurred and would also contradict the claim that Jesus’ virgin birth is unique. The sign mentioned in verse 14 to Ahaz is that the two kings who threatened King Ahaz would be destroyed quickly. This sign is described in the next verse: “before the child knows enough to refuse evil and choose good the land whose two kings you dread will be forsaken” Isaiah 7:15 It is fulfilled in the next chapter with the birth of a child to the prophet Isaiah: “he (Isaiah) approached the prophetess and she conceived (tahar) and bore (taled) a son and God said to me: Name the child “Maher-shalal-hash-baz” which means (the spoil speeds the prey hastens). For before the child shall know how to cry my father my mother the riches of Damascus and the spoil of Sammaria will be carried away before the king of Assyria.” Isaiah 8:4 Clearly, the woman mentioned in Isaiah 7:14 and 8:3-4 are one and the same and that she is Isaiah’s wife. The real sign to King Ahaz is that Isaiah’s child will be born quickly and before he matures (knowing the difference between good and evil and father and mother) the nations who threaten the Kingdom of Judea will be defeated. Interestingly, Isaiah’s children are specifically referred to as a “signs” from God. “Behold I and the children whom the Lord has given me are for signs and wonders in Israel.” Isaiah 8:18 King Ahaz was told to trust in G-d for assistance and to ask for a sign as proof that his enemies would be defeated. He is told that the sign will be the birth of a child from the young woman who will call the child (Immanuel -עמנואל).[4] Although this name mean ‘God is with us” it does not mean that the child will be divine. It is very common for biblical personality to have names that include God and part of their name. For example, (Daniel -דניאל) means “God is my Judge.” The implication was that G-d would be with Ahaz and the Kingdom of Judah in their fight against their enemies. Isaiah refers to this when he says, “Contrive a scheme, but it will be foiled; conspire a plot, but it will not stand, for God is with us (Emanu El).” Isaiah 8:10 Eventually the Northern Kingdom of Israel and Aram-Syria are vanquished by the armies of Sennacherib King of Assyria (Babylon) who exiled the northern kingdom, “The king of Assyria invaded the entire country… the king of Assyria captured Samaria and exiled Israel” 2 Kings 17:5-6 “Thus God saved Hezikiah (son of Ahaz) and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib King of Assyria.” 2 Chronicles 32:22 The concept of a virgin birth preceded Christianity and has its roots in Greco-Roman mythology. Numerous Greek and Roman gods were born of virgin births, as recorded in the “Golden Bough” by Frazer, for example Tammus and Attis who both were claimed to be of virgin births. The concept of the virgin birth was adopted by Christianity from the pagan world and has no foundation in Judaism. Isaiah is clearly describing an event that has no Messianic connotations. In fact, the word Messiah is never used in this chapter.

In context Isaiah is speaking about a specific young woman who will become pregnant during the life time of Isaiah and King Ahaz. A miraculous virgin birth that supposedly took place over 560 years later would be irrelevant to Ahaz, who required a sign prior to an imminent military invasion. Christians attempt to avoid this problem by claiming that this is a “double level prophesy” that happens both during the time of Ahaz and again in the time of Jesus. If Christians want to believe that the word Almah means a virgin and simultaneously claim a “double level prophesy” they would have to believe that a virgin birth took place in the time of Ahaz. However, this never occurred and would also contradict the claim that Jesus’ virgin birth is unique. The sign mentioned in verse 14 to Ahaz is that the two kings who threatened King Ahaz would be destroyed quickly. This sign is described in the next verse: “before the child knows enough to refuse evil and choose good the land whose two kings you dread will be forsaken” Isaiah 7:15 It is fulfilled in the next chapter with the birth of a child to the prophet Isaiah: “he (Isaiah) approached the prophetess and she conceived (tahar) and bore (taled) a son and God said to me: Name the child “Maher-shalal-hash-baz” which means (the spoil speeds the prey hastens). For before the child shall know how to cry my father my mother the riches of Damascus and the spoil of Sammaria will be carried away before the king of Assyria.” Isaiah 8:4 Clearly, the woman mentioned in Isaiah 7:14 and 8:3-4 are one and the same and that she is Isaiah’s wife. The real sign to King Ahaz is that Isaiah’s child will be born quickly and before he matures (knowing the difference between good and evil and father and mother) the nations who threaten the Kingdom of Judea will be defeated. Interestingly, Isaiah’s children are specifically referred to as a “signs” from God. “Behold I and the children whom the Lord has given me are for signs and wonders in Israel.” Isaiah 8:18 King Ahaz was told to trust in G-d for assistance and to ask for a sign as proof that his enemies would be defeated. He is told that the sign will be the birth of a child from the young woman who will call the child (Immanuel -עמנואל).[4] Although this name mean ‘God is with us” it does not mean that the child will be divine. It is very common for biblical personality to have names that include God and part of their name. For example, (Daniel -דניאל) means “God is my Judge.” The implication was that G-d would be with Ahaz and the Kingdom of Judah in their fight against their enemies. Isaiah refers to this when he says, “Contrive a scheme, but it will be foiled; conspire a plot, but it will not stand, for God is with us (Emanu El).” Isaiah 8:10 Eventually the Northern Kingdom of Israel and Aram-Syria are vanquished by the armies of Sennacherib King of Assyria (Babylon) who exiled the northern kingdom, “The king of Assyria invaded the entire country… the king of Assyria captured Samaria and exiled Israel” 2 Kings 17:5-6 “Thus God saved Hezikiah (son of Ahaz) and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib King of Assyria.” 2 Chronicles 32:22 The concept of a virgin birth preceded Christianity and has its roots in Greco-Roman mythology. Numerous Greek and Roman gods were born of virgin births, as recorded in the “Golden Bough” by Frazer, for example Tammus and Attis who both were claimed to be of virgin births. The concept of the virgin birth was adopted by Christianity from the pagan world and has no foundation in Judaism. Isaiah is clearly describing an event that has no Messianic connotations. In fact, the word Messiah is never used in this chapter.

Also important to Note what ISAIAH 8:6 says, along with the meanings of all the children. The original sign of ISAIAH 7:14-16, they all refused - ISAIAH 8:6 tells us they refused the waters of Shiloh (Messiah), therefore, if they accepted the sign, the waters of Shiloh, those kings Ahaz feared would have been destroyed before the child reached the age of 12 or 13, however, they refused the sign and instead, hired the King of Assyriah, so God instead brought in a child named *MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ* which means Quickly to the spoil/plunder and brought upon them the Rivers of destruction instead the waters of Shiloh that go softly. So now the prophesy of ISAIAH 7:14 was a future prophesy. The prophesy now moves into the future promise of the Davidic King of ISAIAH 9:6-7 called Mighty God. If Ahaz trusted in God, the child born to the prophetess would have been called Immanuel, but he chose to trust in the King of Assyriah over God, so the child's name was now called *MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ* meaning soon destruction, because they refused the waters of Shiloh (ISAIAH 8:6). The apostles knew the prophesy very well. The child Immanuel is the Messiah - The waters of Shiloh - Ahaz and the people rejected him so they brought on their destruction - sound familiar?

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thank you very much for taking the time to explain this.

Is the word gave in the past or future?

Also important to Note what ISAIAH 8:6 says, along with the meanings of all the children. The original sign of ISAIAH 7:14-16, they all refused - ISAIAH 8:6 tells us they refused the waters of Shiloh (Messiah), therefore, if they accepted the sign, the waters of Shiloh, those kings Ahaz feared would have been destroyed before the child reached the age of 12 or 13, however, they refused the sign and instead, hired the King of Assyriah, so God instead brought in a child named *MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ* which means Quickly to the spoil/plunder and brought upon them the Rivers of destruction instead the waters of Shiloh that go softly. So now the prophesy of ISAIAH 7:14 was a future prophesy. The prophesy now moves into the future promise of the Davidic King of ISAIAH 9:6-7 called Mighty God. If Ahaz trusted in God, the child born to the prophetess would have been called Immanuel, but he chose to trust in the King of Assyriah over God, so the child's name was now called *MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ* meaning soon destruction, because they refused the waters of Shiloh (ISAIAH 8:6). The apostles knew the prophesy very well. The child Immanuel is the Messiah - The waters of Shiloh - Ahaz and the people rejected him so they brought on their destruction - sound familiar?

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@@jamilbiotech91 *YOU STILL REFUSE TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ON PSALM 22?* Who is lying? *Tovia and Rashi? Or your Talmud?* - Your Talmud rabbis seem to agree with the KJV translation! Your Talmud rabbis even admit to altering scripture 🤣😂 *ISAIAH 9:6-7* - TALMUD CONFIRMS KJV READING OF ISAIAH 9:6-7 - Who is lying? Tovia and Rashi or your 2-5th century Talmud rabbis before Rashi? *LETS COMPARE!* - ISAIAH 9:6-7 👇 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and *the government* shall be upon his shoulder _(Psalm 22:26-31)_ : and* HIS NAME shall be called* Wonderful, Counseller👉, *The mighty God* , *The everlasting Father* ,👈 The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon *HIS KINGDOM* to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts *WILL* perform this. *Babylonian Talmud (Tract Derech Erez Zutha)* “Rabbi Hose the Galilean said: Also the name of *THE MESSIAH* is called Peace, for it is written ‘ *Everlasting Father* , Prince of Peace.'”[2] *MIDRASH RABBAH (Debarim 1)* “The Rabbis lay the following words in the mouth of the patriarch Jacob: “I have still to bring forth *THE KING MESSIAH* as it is written: ‘Unto us a child is born.'”[3] *Iggereth Teman (Rabbi Moses ben Maimon writes to Jacob Alfajumi)* “God named Him (the Messiah) with six names as He says concerning Him: ‘For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government *SHALL be* upon His shoulder: and *his name SHALL be called* *WONDERFUL* , Counsellor, *GOD, Mighty, EVERLASTING FATHER* , Prince of Peace’. That👉 *He calleth Him God* 👈 in a distinctive manner, is to say with it, that *HIS GLORY* surpasses that of all other children of men. *Aben Ezra* “There are some interpreters who say that ‘Wonderful, Everlasting Father’ are names of God and only ‘Prince of Peace’ is the name of the child. But according to my view the interpretation is right (which says)👉: *all are the names of the child* 👈 *Targum Isaiah* “The prophet saith to the house of David, A child has been born to us, a son has been given to us; and He has taken the law upon Himself to keep it, and His name had been called from of old, Wonderful Counselor, 👉 *MIGHTY GOD, HE WHO LIVES FOREVER* 👈, The Anointed One (or Messiah), in whose days peace shall increase upon us.”[6] *TALMUD ISAIAH 53* - So you Admit ISAIAH 53 is *NOT ISRAEL* then and that Tovia and Rashi lied? Or is all the Talmud rabbis lying? *b. SANHEDRIN 98b* the identity of *THE SERVANT* : Apropos *THE MESSIAH* , the Gemara asks: What is his name?… And the Rabbis say: The leper of the house of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi is his name, as it is stated: “ *Indeed our illnesses he did bear and our pains he endured; yet we did esteem him injured, stricken by God, and afflicted* ” ( *RABBIS QUOTING Isaiah 53:4* ). *Talmud citing Isaiah 53:12 (Sotah 14a* refers to *the Messiah in an early midrash: the descendant of David* . Why was he called a great mountain? Because he will be greater than the patriarchs, as is said: Behold, *MY SERVANT shall prosper, he shall be exalted and lifted up, and shall be very high* (Isa. 52:13). He shall be exalted above Abraham; lifted up above Isaac; and shall be very high above Jacob. He shall be exalted above Abraham, concerning whom it is said: I have lifted up my hand unto the Lord (Gen. 14:22); lifted up above Moses. (Tanchuma Toldot 14:1) *Rabbi Moshe Alshich* : I may remark, then, that *our Rabbis with one voice accept and affirm* the opinion that *the prophet is speaking of the King Messiah* (Driver & Neubauer, p258) *Targum Jonathan* (an Aramaic translation) of the book of Isaiah, dating around the second century, says, “ *Behold, My servant the Messiah shall prosper* *The Babylonian Talmud* , What is *the Messiah’s name?* The rabbis said: his name is the ‘Leper Scholar.’ As it is written Surely he hath borne our griefs and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him a leper, smitten of God and afflicted (b. Sanhedrin 98b)34 *Midrash Ruth Rabbah, dated around the fifth century AD* : And Boaz said unto her . . . come hither, and eat of the bread, and dip thy morsel in the vinegar . . . [an] interpretation makes it refer to the Messiah . . . And dip thy morsel in the vinegar refers to his sufferings as it is said, But *he was wounded because of our transgressions* (Isaiah LIII, 5) (Midrash Ruth Rabbah 5:6)35 *The medieval rabbi Maimonides (Rambam)* : What is to be the manner of Messiah’s advent, and where will be the place of his appearance? . . . He came up as a sucker before him, and as a root out of the dry earth . . . in the words of Isaiah, when describing the manner in which the kings . . . will shut their mouth; for that which had not been told them they have seen, and that which they had not heard they have perceived.36 *Nahman of Breslov in the late 18th/early 19th century: Our Sages also teach (Sanhedrin 98b)* Mashiach will suffer sickness on behalf of all Israel, as it is written (Isaiah 53:5), “He was stricken because of our transgressions.” (Likutei Moharan 118:1 *Rabbi Don Yizhaq Abarbanel* : If, on the other hand, our Rabbis have in view Messiah the son of David, then a difficulty arises from the words marred beyond man,’ ‘without form or comeliness,’ for Isaiah himself, so far from calling him ‘despised’ or ‘forlorn of men,’ describes him as God’s ‘chosen one, in whom his soul delights’ (xlii.1), and as the ‘rod out of the stump’ of Jesse, upon whom ‘the spirit of the Lord rests’ (xi.2), and unto whom ‘the Gentiles will seek’ (ver. 10) (Commentary on Isaiah. Found in The Fifty Third Chapter of Isaiah According to Jewish Interpreters, S.R. Driver, A.D. Neubauer (Oxford: Parker, 1877), p. 163). *You admit God was pierced!* ~ ZECHARIAH 12:10 - The Talmud verifies KJV translation! Again Tovia lied to you! _And _*_I_*_ __*_(YAHWEH)_* will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and_ *_they shall look upon ME (YAHWEH) whom they have pierced_* , _and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn_ *MIDRASH Ein Yaakov (Glick Edition), Sukkah 5:5* (Zech. 12, 10) And *_they will look up toward me whom they have trust through_* , and they will lament for him, as one lamenteth for an only son, and weep bitterly for him, as one weepeth bitterly for the first-born; *The BABYLONIAN TALMUD [Tractate Sukkah, Chapter 5]* “One holds that it was for the Messiah the son of Joseph who was killed, as written in Zechariah 12: *_When they look on me, whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him_* , as one mourns for an only child.” *RABBIS ADMIT TO ALTERING SCRIPTURE AND TORAH!* 👇 🤣 *Rabbi Hiyya bar Abba said in the name of RABBI YOHANAN* : 👇 “👉 _It is better that ONE LETTER BE REMOVED FROM THE TORAH than that the Divine name be publicly profaned_ 👈” 🚩🚩🚩 *RED FLAG!* 🚩🚩🚩 *R. Shmuel Yaffe, MIDRASH RABBAH, writes* : 👉 “if we admit that *_the scribes altered [the text] in one place_* , what prevents us from saying so with regard to the other places? 👈 🚩🚩🚩 *RED FLAG!* 🚩🚩🚩 *The MIDRASH TANHUMA* _writes that it was Ezra’s Anshei Kenesset haGedolah 👉 _*_Men of the Great Assembly_*_ [Sanhedrin] who __*_changed certain words of the Torah_* 👈 🚩🚩🚩 *RED FLAG!* 🚩🚩

@@jamilbiotech91 *GASLIGHTING AGAIN?* 🤣🤣🤣 *AGAIN! WHY WONT YOU ANSWER?* *1* - What will the gentiles *REMEMBER* !?!? _PSALM 22:27_ *2* - What is it that this person does that *CAUSES ALL GENTILES ALL OVER THE WORLD TO WORSHIP GOD?* !!!! _PSALM 22:27_ *3* - How does this person's suffering give Israel and the gentiles eternal life? _PSALM 22:26_ *4* - Did David die naked in front of people while they gambled for his clothes? *5* - Were David's hands and feet pierced? (Proper translation confirmed by dead Sea scrolls and many scholars). Here's the verses below again! Just answer! *PSALM 22:25-31* 25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: *I will pay my vows before them that fear him* _(PUBLIC EXECUTION - HANDS AND FEET PIERCED)_ . 26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the Lord that seek him: "your heart shall live for ever* _(ETERNAL LIFE FOR FOLLOWING HIM)_ . 27 *All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord* *(REMEMBER WHAT?)*: and *all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee (SOUNDS A LOT LIKE DANIEL 7:13-14)* . 28 For the kingdom is the Lord's: and he is the governor among the nations. *(READ DANIEL 7:13-14 & ISAIAH 9:6-7)* 29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul* (PRAYER WONT SAVE YOU - THIS PERSONS SUFFERING DOES) . 30 A seed shall SERVE him *(DANIEL 7:13-14)* ; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. 31 *They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born* , that👉 *HE HATH DONE THIS (WHO DID WHAT?)* .👈

Also important to Note what ISAIAH 8:6 says, along with the meanings of all the children. The original sign of ISAIAH 7:14-16, they all refused - ISAIAH 8:6 tells us they refused the waters of Shiloh (Messiah), therefore, if they accepted the sign, the waters of Shiloh, those kings Ahaz feared would have been destroyed before the child reached the age of 12 or 13, however, they refused the sign and instead, hired the King of Assyriah, so God instead brought in a child named *MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ* which means Quickly to the spoil/plunder and brought upon them the Rivers of destruction instead the waters of Shiloh that go softly. So now the prophesy of ISAIAH 7:14 was a future prophesy. The prophesy now moves into the future promise of the Davidic King of ISAIAH 9:6-7 called Mighty God. If Ahaz trusted in God, the child born to the prophetess would have been called Immanuel, but he chose to trust in the King of Assyriah over God, so the child's name was now called *MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ* meaning soon destruction, because they refused the waters of Shiloh (ISAIAH 8:6). The apostles knew the prophesy very well. The child Immanuel is the Messiah - The waters of Shiloh - Ahaz and the people rejected him so they brought on their destruction - sound familiar?

@ChristianGirlwhoLovesYeshua Thanks for the info. Not to discourage you, but I no longer believe in this stuff.

@@russell311000 You should believe! Ask Yeshua to reveal himself to you - he will.

@@russell311000 Read the entirety of Psalm 22 and pay attention to verses 27-31 - this tells you who suffered in the cross.

@@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus the Bible was written by man.

You seem to not understand this story at all.

@@johnkrause8247 ISAIAH 8 confirms that names of the children are the prophesy! You're the one who doesn't get it! They rejected Immanuel and got Mahershalalhashbaz instead! But if you don't want to get it, you won't.

@@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus where do you see this rejection? What chaper and verse?

@@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus I see them conquering Syria and Israel with Assyria screaming "God is with us" Isaiah 8:6-10

@@johnkrause8247 Read *ISAIAH 7-9* - God replaces *the Sign of Immanuel* with the *Sign of MAHERSHALHASHBAZ* 👇👇👇 *ISAIAH 8:6-7* 6 Forasmuch as👉 *this people refuseth the waters of Shiloah* (Sign of Immanuel - see also Genesis 49:10-11 & Zechariah 9:9-11) 👈that go softly, and *rejoice in Rezin and Remaliah's son* (chose to go to the King Assyria); 7 *NOW therefore* , behold, *the Lord bringeth up upon them the waters of the river, strong and many, even the king of Assyria* , and all his glory: and he shall come up over all his channels, and go over all his banks: ( *MAHERSHALALHASHBAZ* - their destruction). *Ahaz refused the sign in ISAIAH 7;13-16* , so instead of the *SIGN OF IMMANUEL* , God gave Ahaz the *SIGN OF MAHERSHALALHASHBAZ* - Just like when the Jews rejected their Messiah and said Caesar was their King. See the parrellels? *There's a prophesy in all the kids names* 👇 *ISAIAH 8:16* 👇 Behold,👉 *I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders* 👈in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion. *ISAIAH 7:3* 3 Then said the Lord unto Isaiah, Go forth now to meet Ahaz, thou, and *SHEARJASHUB* thy son, at the end of the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller's field; *(A REMNANT SHALL RETURN)* *ISAIAH 7:14-16* 14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name *IMMANUEL* . *(GOD MANIFESTED IN FLESH - GOD WITH US)* *ISAIAH 8:3* 3 And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived, and bare a son. Then said the Lord to me, Call his name *MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ* . *(DESTRUCTION)* *NOW PUT IT ALL TOGETHER* 1. Israel comes back from the 1st Exile - the remnant returned. *(SHEARJASHUB)* 2. They reject their Messiah who came in flesh. *(IMMANUEL)* 3. Rejection of their Messiah/Shiloh brought on their destruction. *(MAHER-SHALAL-HASH-BAZ)* Get it now? YESHUAH was the Immanuel who was rejected which caused the destruction of the Temple by Israel's enemies - it's a prophesy *_(Read also Deuteronomy 28, 2 CHRONICLES 7, Zechariah 13:7-9)_*

Calm down . Stop being a nutty controlling and crying Pharisee! Or a Mislead fake Black Hebrew Israelite!!

@@YeshuaCameAndGaveUsLifeandLove first of all I am not a fake Black Hebrew Israelite. I am in the original Hebrew and the so-called Old Testament with our Messiah David is our book! You can have your Greek made New Testament with your false Idols Christ! I'm asking is stop disrespecting the true Messiah the true Chosen One by the almighty creator by mixing his name up with your fake New Testament Christ

@@YeshuaCameAndGaveUsLifeandLove it's not talking about jesus/yahawashi . It's talking about Isaiah son. You have to read Isaiah 7: 1-22 and Isaiah 8: 1-8. You have to read in context to get the understanding

@@jarrellneriahshamah5394 Isaiah only had 2 sons . Immanuel is a metaphor

@@dejournetkelly6745 no he actually had three sons.shearjashub , immanel, and maher-shala-hashbaz. Don't let the mew testament fool you. Ch. 18:8 the prophet even tells you what those sons purpose was.