Isaiah Bradley Cover-up: WHO ELSE KNEW? (Falcon and Winter Soldier Q&A)

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Isaiah Bradley introduces one of the darkest chapters of MCU history, in which the US government and HYDRA conducted inhumane supersoldier experiments on Bradley and other black test subjects in attempt to replicate the success of the Captain America program. But throughout his imprisonment, at least one longtime figure we've known in the MCU must have known about this. In this Q&A, Erik Voss and MT explore the hard-to-face truth that some trusted leader -- Howard Stark, Peggy Carter, Nick Fury, Thaddeus Ross -- likely participated in this cruel program.
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@ZeroKhaoTiKz
@ZeroKhaoTiKz 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Nick Fury found out and helped the nurse falsify his death.
@zainjessani7340
@zainjessani7340 3 жыл бұрын
Knowing Fury, he probably actually did. But it would have to be in between the years of 1996 and the late 2000s as Fury would start the Avengers Initiative in those years.
@luiscandelario5067
@luiscandelario5067 3 жыл бұрын
Doubtful, korean War was 50-54, he was dexlared dead in the 80's. Fury in the 90's wasn't a high lvl Shield Agent till after Captain Marvel. And Hydra was hidden from him till Captain America 2 ...
@richardbrown3055
@richardbrown3055 3 жыл бұрын
It was before Fury’s time, the “nurse” was hands down Peggy Carter, maybe with an assist from an aging Mr. Rogers.....oh damn...aging Steve was Mr. Rogers in the MCU.
@luiscandelario5067
@luiscandelario5067 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardbrown3055 unsure of Peggy but I like the idea...
@Jbreeze3878
@Jbreeze3878 3 жыл бұрын
@Jackson Forrest Pro-tip. You're a bot
@The_Story_Of_Us
@The_Story_Of_Us 3 жыл бұрын
Since he said HYDRA also did something to him, I wouldn’t be surprised if SHIELD were by extension partially involved, obviously without the knowledge of Howard Stark and Peggy Carter.
@terellbrown4326
@terellbrown4326 3 жыл бұрын
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@gregsiegel7072
@gregsiegel7072 3 жыл бұрын
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@redswasted8624
@redswasted8624 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregsiegel7072 4 Wait, what?
@wynnyx7071
@wynnyx7071 3 жыл бұрын
What if Fury did know, and he sent a "nurse" to let him out and made him look "dead". That sounds exactly the kind of thing that Fury would do. Keeping someone "off the books".
@brandonrussell3346
@brandonrussell3346 3 жыл бұрын
Hawkeye: I keep it off S.H.I.E.L.D's files, I'd like to keep it that way.
@davidozab2753
@davidozab2753 3 жыл бұрын
Or he found out and sent the 'nurse.'
@soulsleepers
@soulsleepers 3 жыл бұрын
cmon now, how would Fury know if he didnt know about Bucky?
@wynnyx7071
@wynnyx7071 3 жыл бұрын
@@soulsleeperswith that logic, how does Fury know anything? What I'm saying, there's a story there that could be told.
@soulsleepers
@soulsleepers 3 жыл бұрын
@@wynnyx7071 yeah, um, thats not how that works. we have literal MCU FOOTAGE of Fury ‘not knowing’ about Bucky. so there is no ‘with that logic’, my comment didnt come from opinion its a literal fact. from that fact we understand the dark parts of the super soldier program was on a need to know basis, Fury wasnt on that list.
@jacquettediggs4633
@jacquettediggs4633 3 жыл бұрын
They all knew and it was super easy, barely a inconvenience.
@vedanthpochhareddy6076
@vedanthpochhareddy6076 3 жыл бұрын
So you have a movie for me Yes sir I do.
@ericawillis.
@ericawillis. 3 жыл бұрын
Wow wow wow wow.....wow
@PopeyeBjj86
@PopeyeBjj86 3 жыл бұрын
Making references to others people's work is tight.
@MillesDaDon
@MillesDaDon 3 жыл бұрын
Ppl who knew and doesn't tell is TIGHT!!!
@pharaohsserpent6
@pharaohsserpent6 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and newrockstars are on their back and need to get aaalllll the off of that thing
@ridzuanmustaffa
@ridzuanmustaffa 3 жыл бұрын
"Cut off one head, two more shall take its place" Hydra still there behind all these movies/series.
@RoxDZoro
@RoxDZoro 3 жыл бұрын
I think Zemo is aware of Hydra still existing , he has all of their secrets
@taronneal7645
@taronneal7645 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t the Isaiah Bradley info have been included in what Black Widow dumped on to the internet at the end of Winter Soldier? If Zemo was able to find info about Bucky that way then someone could have dug through that and found info about Isaiah.
@penjaninkonde1903
@penjaninkonde1903 3 жыл бұрын
You, my friend, have just found a plot hole
@aioncloudest
@aioncloudest 3 жыл бұрын
yes, but those records still had him declared dead.
@DarthRaptor22
@DarthRaptor22 3 жыл бұрын
@@aioncloudest yeah but now the whole world would know what kind of fucked up shit the govt did
@blvkbeatstv5894
@blvkbeatstv5894 3 жыл бұрын
But there still like government files they aren’t the easiest things to read
@bugrasevinc9696
@bugrasevinc9696 3 жыл бұрын
There was a lot of data that got leaked and if you didn't know what you are looking for when you start searching, i think you would get lost in it
@erinstaley6350
@erinstaley6350 3 жыл бұрын
Seconding the desire to see Bucky earn the White Wolf title. I'm hoping that's part of the plot of the Wakanda series.
@einosuhonen4298
@einosuhonen4298 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@WardNightstone
@WardNightstone 3 жыл бұрын
IDK as cool as that would be the comic version being a white Orphan who was raised by King T'chaka in Wakanda and is considered T'Challa's adopted brother could be really interesting
@wolfofthewest8019
@wolfofthewest8019 3 жыл бұрын
White Wolf is a villain in the comics and it's a terrible hero name.
@erinstaley6350
@erinstaley6350 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfofthewest8019 True, but since Karli didn't have a father named Karl and Sharon Carter is the Power Broker, I think it's safe to say the MCU is now it's own thing.
@thorinwoods2642
@thorinwoods2642 3 жыл бұрын
He could appear in Black Panther 2.
@michaelchevillot4557
@michaelchevillot4557 3 жыл бұрын
I found it hard to believe (even though it was hilarious) that Marvel used the old stereotype/saying "The Butler Did It".
@Villainiz3d
@Villainiz3d 3 жыл бұрын
Bucky would not have known what happened to Isaiah afterwards while he was still with Hydra. He was literally just a weapon for them.
@davidozab2753
@davidozab2753 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking Ross knows everything, Peggy was kept completely in the dark, Howard Stark knew about the initial experiments but not about Isaiah's imprisonment and further experiments on him. Same with Fury. He'd have seen the files on the black supersoldiers but nothing on Bradley's later suffering 😢
@cynaracherrycaryccc
@cynaracherrycaryccc 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Howard found out and was murdered shortly after cause Zola mentions Howard was finding out about stuff that Hydra infiltrated Shield didn't want him and Peggy to know so it why he assassinated and it made to look like an accident.
@victornieves1794
@victornieves1794 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that Nick Fury, Peggy Carter, or Howard Stark knew or would’ve went along with it.
@lopezisabelcarolina
@lopezisabelcarolina 3 жыл бұрын
Nick Fury and Peggy Carter? No. Absolutely not. Howard Stark? Eh.
@lopezisabelcarolina
@lopezisabelcarolina 3 жыл бұрын
He was trying to replicate the serum so....
@victornieves1794
@victornieves1794 3 жыл бұрын
@@lopezisabelcarolina He was trying to replicate it, but I doubt he’d do something so flat out evil.
@marcusdavis9748
@marcusdavis9748 3 жыл бұрын
I think that fury was one of the black soldiers experimented on as well he does have a form of super soldier serum in the comics
@victornieves1794
@victornieves1794 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcusdavis9748 In the comics he does. But they’ve never said anything about him having it in the MCU. He’s also too young.
@jasonsingh4035
@jasonsingh4035 3 жыл бұрын
Even though Isaiah was a US asset...I think the highest heads in Hydra knew about him and the torture/research aspect. Fury didn't know Pierce was a psychopath, he could have been kept in the dark about that. He could have only tracked him down trying to make amends with his family and found him alive and just kept it to himself
@marwig87
@marwig87 3 жыл бұрын
The only people I think 100% knew about Isaiah Bradley would be Colonel Chester Phillips, Howard Stark and General Ross. Everyone else would be a maybe.
@stephenheath8465
@stephenheath8465 3 жыл бұрын
Peggy had to know in those early S.H.E.I.L.D days
@craigwilliams1073
@craigwilliams1073 3 жыл бұрын
They all knew and if Bucky found him, the government also knew exactly where he was.
@WatchMilesTV
@WatchMilesTV 3 жыл бұрын
Right!!! Bucky knows his EXACT home address! I mean come on. Lol
@andrew-jv7iv
@andrew-jv7iv 3 жыл бұрын
If we found out Peggy had broken bad in later years, perhaps founded the Powerbroker moniker and now passed to down to Sharon. Would the retcon hold up in this MCU ?
@cbdcdiva6872
@cbdcdiva6872 3 жыл бұрын
Malcolm Spellman went IN! He pulled historical and current events in how he crafted the Isaiah Bradley storyline
@charleneWL
@charleneWL 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@majorperk2275
@majorperk2275 3 жыл бұрын
MT said it, wyatt Russell played john Walker so well that I cant see another actor doing it
@wisconsinking323
@wisconsinking323 3 жыл бұрын
Release the Bucky Sara cut, (in a recent interview Sebastian Stan said there was more scenes of Bucky and sam's sister that got cut).
@schanataylor2067
@schanataylor2067 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see it too!!
@ariannaadams7474
@ariannaadams7474 3 жыл бұрын
where did he say that??
@wisconsinking323
@wisconsinking323 3 жыл бұрын
@@ariannaadams7474 In an interview with Entertainment Weekly (EW).
@danielcostanza4628
@danielcostanza4628 3 жыл бұрын
Probably saving that part for the movies
@wisconsinking323
@wisconsinking323 3 жыл бұрын
@Miguel Messina You mean the virus cut. Yeah we all want to see that.
@wlewis19760
@wlewis19760 3 жыл бұрын
I seriously don't think a Black Nick Fury would be cool with having Isaiah Bradley being locked up for decades and tortured and tested on.
@RoxDZoro
@RoxDZoro 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he knew , but he couldn't do anything about it , for all we know nick fury got him out early , he may have still been being experimented on to this day
@wlewis19760
@wlewis19760 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoxDZoro to be honest I think the issue is that they ret-conned Nick Fury to be Black in the MCU when he was white in the comics. But at the same time, they left the Isaiah Bradley story like the comics in a world where the white Nick Fury was. Just IMO.
@toddriley1377
@toddriley1377 3 жыл бұрын
Isaiah Bradley would have been broken out before Nick fury was in a position in his career to know about or do anything Proactively about it anyway
@wlewis19760
@wlewis19760 3 жыл бұрын
@@toddriley1377 Korean War ended in 1953 and he was locked up for 30 years, so it would have been in the 80's.
@toddriley1377
@toddriley1377 3 жыл бұрын
@@wlewis19760 Fury's S.H.I.E.L.D. badge, issued in 1988 Fury joined S.H.I.E.L.D. by the 1980s and was working under Keller's command by 1988. For six years since 1989, he had been working a desk job in a S.H.I.E.L.D. office, attempting to locate and hunt down future enemies. So he wouldn't have been in a position to need to know about such a deeply classified project
@JohnsolomonH
@JohnsolomonH 3 жыл бұрын
Isiah Bradley story reminds me of Henrietta Lacks in real life
@safetyoshaughnessy8368
@safetyoshaughnessy8368 3 жыл бұрын
Fury planted the nurse to get him out when he find out he was still alive and in prison. If he knew earlier he was alive he would have had him working in Sheild.
@pharaohsserpent6
@pharaohsserpent6 3 жыл бұрын
"He's gonna be doing some really messed up sh...stuff" KZfaq's Demonetizing people: aahh .. missed it guys, better luck next time!
@grayclaw1391
@grayclaw1391 3 жыл бұрын
The White Wolf and the War Dogs of Wakanda that sounds so good.
@shamancarmichael5305
@shamancarmichael5305 3 жыл бұрын
Since Bucky knew where Isaiah Bradley lived, I would imagine that he's known where he was for a long time, and by extension, so has Hydra and probably Shield.
@CarltonYoung
@CarltonYoung 3 жыл бұрын
Well said guys. I would like to see Isaiah Bradley suit up again a la Bruce Wayne, TDKR. Flashbacks to his fight with the Winter Soldier would be amazing.
@Frankengribble
@Frankengribble 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo happy to see MT consistently here at NewRS's! Been a fan of his since before I found this channel but either way... Perfect 'effin' match! So happy to see you more often MT!
@aydangrill4897
@aydangrill4897 3 жыл бұрын
If you see this I hope you have a good day
@mack_ko381
@mack_ko381 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and I hope you do too
@aydangrill4897
@aydangrill4897 3 жыл бұрын
@@mack_ko381 thanks
@baconfacejugs4017
@baconfacejugs4017 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll never understand the 9 people who get here within the first 10 minutes of the video just to dislike.
@prettyboy7066
@prettyboy7066 3 жыл бұрын
I think their bots most of the time
@KaYem_inc
@KaYem_inc 3 жыл бұрын
@@prettyboy7066 maybe people just didn't like it
@khangmai5753
@khangmai5753 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't make it halfway until I didn't like it.
@baconfacejugs4017
@baconfacejugs4017 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaYem_inc but it’s fine if people don’t like it, but I’m saying they should watch the video at least
@michaelchevillot4557
@michaelchevillot4557 3 жыл бұрын
Zola must've known as well
@dphoenix03
@dphoenix03 3 жыл бұрын
This would be the perfect way to introduce Luke Cage... As a matter of fact ...they dropped the ball... They could've hinted at luke cage in TFATWS... Perfect segway...
@camlucas4623
@camlucas4623 3 жыл бұрын
They made this before the rights came back
@stephenheath8465
@stephenheath8465 3 жыл бұрын
If there is a Season 2.That could be Luke Cage Origin Story
@danielcostanza4628
@danielcostanza4628 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. If the rights would have come back much earlier still had that cooling down period sure could have
@Matt00ias
@Matt00ias 3 жыл бұрын
Love the discussions you guys having on the channel! Tnx dudes and dudeds
@loserlessons101
@loserlessons101 3 жыл бұрын
look at MTs hand when he moves it it changes color just like who? MYSTERIO!! WE GOT EM!!
@wisconsinking323
@wisconsinking323 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too!
@loserlessons101
@loserlessons101 3 жыл бұрын
I think that most of the good characters knew after but not before and they could've been mad but like they thought he was dead
@threetreasures7698
@threetreasures7698 3 жыл бұрын
You two ROCK! Big time! I have referred many folks this channel because of the theories, reviews and the great summaries and back stories you provide.
@UnwittingSweater
@UnwittingSweater 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly thought Erik was going to say he wanted Cap to fight Global Warming...
@tapj066
@tapj066 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@slashercat8649
@slashercat8649 3 жыл бұрын
cap just punching the air
@ravenlord4
@ravenlord4 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Romanoff's data dump at the end of winter soldier reveal the Bradley coverup?
@shanemontgomery1358
@shanemontgomery1358 3 жыл бұрын
Because of the script.
@raheemgilliam2224
@raheemgilliam2224 3 жыл бұрын
Also because the data would’ve just showed that Isaiah was dead or also if you know what to search for through the data you may get lost
@deangel9128
@deangel9128 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanemontgomery1358 creative answer 👍
@seth7343
@seth7343 3 жыл бұрын
I hope that captain America four is called Captain America and the Falcon but I also think they would need to declare Torres as the Falcon way before that or it would be too confusing
@its_a_fluke
@its_a_fluke 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they could do it in something like secret invasion or something?
@Yibambe.
@Yibambe. 3 жыл бұрын
Nick was probably too young to have known about Isaiah prior to him having escaped from prison.
@xF3arl
@xF3arl 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that cold open had me shook
@threetreasures7698
@threetreasures7698 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Stereo questions and thank you for reigning yourselves in re response time to questions.
@techynerdygypsy1731
@techynerdygypsy1731 3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent question that needs to be explored...
@jaseadomanis5239
@jaseadomanis5239 3 жыл бұрын
I know it’s not relevant to this video but do you think there will ever be a chance to see Hulk’s evolution to the Maestro? Maybe in multiverse of madness? Or in Loki? Or some other timeline?
@vellaimaliapu6374
@vellaimaliapu6374 3 жыл бұрын
Aged Isaiah knew Bucky, but he's more like Carly and the flag smashers with the serum, just super strong? Bucky was taken from a near death state (falling from the freight train,) and evil dudes (Nazis) transformed him anyway. So...just wondering what Isaiah's mission was supposed to be, and how come he's aged now, and Bucky has not?
@roger9592
@roger9592 3 жыл бұрын
It literally tells us his mission in falcon and thr winter soldier where he rescues troops from behind enemy lines
@mirandagoldstine8548
@mirandagoldstine8548 3 жыл бұрын
It’s due to Bucky being cryogenically frozen in between missions that the aging process was slowed down to the point of him not aging. As to why Isaiah shows signs of aging I think the serum only slows down the aging process not totally stopping it. It could be a side effect that was in the original serum that was also successfully replicated in the imperfect serum that Isaiah was given alongside the super strength. Of course this is just my idea but I think it explains why Isaiah looks older than Bucky. I think since Bucky is no longer cryogenically frozen he’ll age at a slower rate than most people due to the serum. Once again this is just speculation.
@sportsmag6148
@sportsmag6148 3 жыл бұрын
How cool would it be to see Steve Rogers, Bucky and Isaiah Bradley breaking POWs out in the Korean War, Vietnam and the Cold War in that alternate timeline?
@jackmorningstar1653
@jackmorningstar1653 3 жыл бұрын
Zemo when he realizes John Walker and Isasiah Bradley are super soldiers
@TheTancam
@TheTancam 3 жыл бұрын
MT please move your phone from the mic, this isn’t the first time we could hear ur notifications XD.
@terellbrown4326
@terellbrown4326 3 жыл бұрын
Stfu
@theleveretts4179
@theleveretts4179 3 жыл бұрын
@@terellbrown4326 yeah, that's basically what he's tryna say haha
@sportsmag6148
@sportsmag6148 3 жыл бұрын
The White Wolf and the War Dogs of Wakanda should be where the Dora Milaje recall Bucky to repay his debt for breaking Zemo out of prison and do secret missions, then towards the end of the series, Ayo presents him with a white Vibranium arm with black joints.
@crispychrissy
@crispychrissy 3 жыл бұрын
Isaiah said he took off half of Bucky's arm. Like... RIPPED it off. I'm guessing Isaiah might have a more refined version of the serum because Steve was never really able to make a dent, even when he was fighting for his life and had all his strength behind it.
@RoxDZoro
@RoxDZoro 3 жыл бұрын
Bucky didn't have a vibranium arm back when Isaiah fought him , he had a stolen vibranium arm when he showed up in Captain America and the winter soldier
@johnnylee8893
@johnnylee8893 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoxDZoro No, he did not. If he did, Tony wouldn't have been able to blast it off during Civil War. Bucky only got his Vibranium arm after living in Wakanda.
@TonyJaaFan1587
@TonyJaaFan1587 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoxDZoro his arm was titanium until now
@MegaDudeman21
@MegaDudeman21 3 жыл бұрын
Also Cap didn't want to hurt bucky.
@paracletelux
@paracletelux 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting thought: was Bucky’s arm made of the same stuff in the 1950s as 2014? I’m guessing they might have made some upgrades to get to the Titanium one he had when he fought Steve.
@wlewis19760
@wlewis19760 3 жыл бұрын
Wolverine fought in all the U.S. wars, so why didn't they just send him to Viet Nam to kill the Winter Soldier? So he should have known him. Stryker should know about Bradley too.
@matthewvanderkooy8347
@matthewvanderkooy8347 3 жыл бұрын
technically they arent in the MCU yet, but when the eventually are that is a good question.
@RoxDZoro
@RoxDZoro 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe because Wolverine was a secret project?
@wlewis19760
@wlewis19760 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoxDZoro But Wolverine was only a part of the Weapon X program later. He fought in all the wars before they did that secret program.
@wlewis19760
@wlewis19760 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewvanderkooy8347 For sure, I guess I didn't realize before I posted that they meant only people related to the story we saw in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
@windersonmelo5733
@windersonmelo5733 3 жыл бұрын
Yes,Erik and Mt,you're the best
@Bonshello
@Bonshello 3 жыл бұрын
More Isaiah Bradley!
@incisivecommenter5974
@incisivecommenter5974 3 жыл бұрын
Peggy Carter was in the leadership of the supersoldier program and Howard Stark as well. They would've known.
@jandm4ever716
@jandm4ever716 3 жыл бұрын
But I’d doubt they would’ve allowed it to continue. Especially Peggy
@incisivecommenter5974
@incisivecommenter5974 3 жыл бұрын
@@jandm4ever716 We dont know that. Peggy and Howard were very pragmatic people.
@michaelcarter6048
@michaelcarter6048 3 жыл бұрын
I think the question he was asking was about the timeline Steve sent to, that timelines original Captain America.
@cvel1456
@cvel1456 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, did they leave him all frozen or what. Because if people see there was a Cap alive in that timeline would they even search for the original frozen one from there timeline.
@forever_noir_2155
@forever_noir_2155 3 жыл бұрын
Disney is never gonna go for real cultural discourse, falcon is about as politically loud theyll ever be
@hecantguardme15
@hecantguardme15 3 жыл бұрын
the character Blue Marvel answers this question ... SHIELD didn't even have records of Blue Marvel cause the government covered it up that good ... Tony couldn't even find any info on Blue Marvel cause of the government
@brianvasconcellos3109
@brianvasconcellos3109 3 жыл бұрын
@jaxx this could be the lead in to allow someone like Blue Marvel to come in. That would be amazing..... we need Adam Brashier!!
@danielcostanza4628
@danielcostanza4628 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Blue Marvel storyline
@kenbozu1
@kenbozu1 3 жыл бұрын
Who developed the serum that was stolen from Howard Stark by Bucky in Civil War? Howard Stark has been around since WWII, so I think Howard Stark amongst all these people they're discussing is the most likely to know who gave Isaiah the serum.
@devinkarp6156
@devinkarp6156 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that Fury could have known but also because his big thing is not trusting anyone and he wouldn’t know who to tell
@savyammjhunjhunwala
@savyammjhunjhunwala 3 жыл бұрын
Who will you collaborate with for the Loki series??
@RandomSmellyBubble
@RandomSmellyBubble 3 жыл бұрын
I think one of the original *Night Nurse* from the comics could of aided him with faking his death and escape.
@kaankarcan558
@kaankarcan558 3 жыл бұрын
Will you guys do an aftershow for What if...? Even though they will not be MCU cannon?
@ZestyZinny
@ZestyZinny 3 жыл бұрын
Erik Voss cursing is the highlight of my day lol 9:24
@michaelpereira147
@michaelpereira147 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't read the walker thing like him learning something, but like him having good "intention" while still being bad. I think it's their way to create some form of anti-hero or "humanised" vilain
@Thoughtsofajoe
@Thoughtsofajoe 3 жыл бұрын
Erik needs his OWN youtube channel
@wisconsinking323
@wisconsinking323 3 жыл бұрын
He started this channel so it technically is.
@summertyme5748
@summertyme5748 3 жыл бұрын
You do realize that this fictional story is just a means of exploring the Tuskegee experiments on African American soldiers? Start by asking *who knew* in a real world American context. And then we can have a real discussion.
@felixfeliciano7011
@felixfeliciano7011 3 жыл бұрын
They were not explicitly soldiers, just black men. The most recent news I know of that were explicitly black soldiers were chemical gas testing on living black (and japanese, and hispanic) soldiers in WWII. Unlike the Tuskegee experiment, the soldiers knew what was being done to them, but were left with no choice on the matter. To your main point though, you are right on the money. This story is inspired by true events, so to fill in the fictional gaps, we should look to the historical context for answers.
@biggie6181
@biggie6181 3 жыл бұрын
The ending title should have been Captain American and White Wolf or Captain America and Bucky
@wisconsinking323
@wisconsinking323 3 жыл бұрын
It WAS going to be called Captain America and White Wolf in the end.
@NeuroSpicyGamer
@NeuroSpicyGamer 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Nick Fury, Maria Hill, Peggy Carter, Howard Stark, Alexander Pierce, Thaddeus Ross, Val & Maria Rambeau all knew about Isaiah Bradley.
@spudyt4265
@spudyt4265 3 жыл бұрын
Zemo hammer dance off I’d love it
@shotooutsutsuki2489
@shotooutsutsuki2489 3 жыл бұрын
Your guys think John walker will be in Captain America 4
@LPSKYWKR
@LPSKYWKR 3 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie I kind of assumed buck would accept that he is the winter soldier and just turn the symbol into something good , I would have loved seeing him accept it and how powerful it would be that the winter soldier is someone people would clap for and want autographs for and stuff
@kmaher1424
@kmaher1424 3 жыл бұрын
The Winter Soldier name was partly influenced by Thomas Paine's writing and has a positive meaning.
@LPSKYWKR
@LPSKYWKR 3 жыл бұрын
@@kmaher1424 oh really? I just meant in the public’s eye because they currently see the winter soldier as a hydra assassin who killed tony starks dad is all. It would bring a tear to my eye for people to be happy to see the winter soldier in the mcu that are in the mcu (not real people)
@1skippysmooth
@1skippysmooth 3 жыл бұрын
Phil Coulson would have known about all this!
@ShinyMon321
@ShinyMon321 3 жыл бұрын
The party neva stops!!
@josiahjarmon4274
@josiahjarmon4274 3 жыл бұрын
Considering Diego is still alive and has the serum, do you think he could be a threat in the future?
@emperorpalpatine373
@emperorpalpatine373 3 жыл бұрын
Which one was he?
@leonardocerqueiradias6168
@leonardocerqueiradias6168 3 жыл бұрын
I think its more likely that he is captured by an evil group and get experimented on. If he shows up again is probably to explain the origin of another villain.
@RoxDZoro
@RoxDZoro 3 жыл бұрын
I thought they all got blown up ?
@108asf
@108asf 3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorpalpatine373 i think the one who piloted the helicopter, im not sure if he was in the van that exploted
@leonardocerqueiradias6168
@leonardocerqueiradias6168 3 жыл бұрын
@@108asf Pretty sure he was not explicity shown. So they could say he was not there if they want to.
@trehl
@trehl 3 жыл бұрын
It was Stryker! (Great way to introduce to start introducing mutants and Wolverine)
@ironisa6535
@ironisa6535 3 жыл бұрын
No way that Nick Fury knew
@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 3 жыл бұрын
I think general ross and Alexander might have known. P.S. I hope at some point they can get Hugo Weaver back as red skull.
@joshuamccrary2195
@joshuamccrary2195 3 жыл бұрын
I think furt was talking about Bradley when he and Cap were initially arguing ab the insight helicarriers
@williamphillips3035
@williamphillips3035 3 жыл бұрын
If Isaiah was sent to prison during the Korean War(1951) for 30 years, he didn't get out until the early 80s. Fury didn't become director of S.H.I.E.L.D. until the 90s after Captain Marvel took place. So he wasn't around when Isaiah was locked up. If anyone would've known, it would be either Peggy Carter or Howard Stark. Remember, Stark had created his own super soldier serum that he was later killed for by the Winter Soldier along with his wife. Then again the DoD was a separate entity from S.H.I.E.L.D and they kept him locked up in a secret location. Isaiah has to be currently in his 90s and I wonder if Eli is his biological grandfather because Isaiah's wife died while he was in prison. Or maybe his child was born before prison.
@mintdragon9548
@mintdragon9548 3 жыл бұрын
‘“Definitely probably has knowledge” 😊
@gaurav1987pal
@gaurav1987pal 3 жыл бұрын
spooky watching this video after binging Curb your enthusiasm for couple of hours!!
@nedimk7500
@nedimk7500 3 жыл бұрын
MT, do you really think Sam's first cap film should be just mcu repeating themselves with red skull, and hydra
@timothysullivan5264
@timothysullivan5264 3 жыл бұрын
I think making Madani the nurse would make perfect sense. In Breaking Bad there was always a pay off when two seemingly unrelated things affected each other. I could see that strong payoff in the MCU if it turns out Madani and Bradley had a history. Just like what are the odds that Steve would end up getting protected by Peggy Carter's niece??
@statuesq169
@statuesq169 3 жыл бұрын
And the senator played by Gary Schandlin (sp.) probably knew too
@americanpaisareturns9051
@americanpaisareturns9051 3 жыл бұрын
“You knew!?” - The DARPA Chief
@twincast2005
@twincast2005 3 жыл бұрын
22:10 ... That's not what they asked. The question was about what happened to the frozen Steve native to the timeline while "our" Steve was living out his dream life with that timeline's Peggy.
@WardNightstone
@WardNightstone 3 жыл бұрын
SHIELD's founders for sure knew (MAYBE not Hank Pym thoguh)
@tobyford3954
@tobyford3954 3 жыл бұрын
yoo erik and mt u the best
@RoxDZoro
@RoxDZoro 3 жыл бұрын
I think Nick fury knew , because Isaiah would've been out around the time he was coming up , so he didn't need to get Isaiah released .
@jalabi99
@jalabi99 3 жыл бұрын
The higher-ups at Hydra and at SHIELD all knew, for sure.
@alexchiang7222
@alexchiang7222 3 жыл бұрын
Hydra the government,pierce,zola, thats it
@robertdowdy3730
@robertdowdy3730 3 жыл бұрын
How did Hawkeye hold the soul stone without dying?
@jessebest5961
@jessebest5961 3 жыл бұрын
So like almost all the main characters are anti-heroes (or anti-villains) with John Walker, Bucky, Sharon Carter, Karli, and Zemo.
@juliant
@juliant 3 жыл бұрын
how could the soul stone be returned? unlike the other stones, it wasn't clearly indicated where exactly the stone is located.. sure on the planet voramir... but where? Did Steve just put it on the ground, or did he give it to Red Skull? If so, can we really count the stone as returned?
@makinarex9
@makinarex9 3 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, a lot of the support for the flagsmasher movement was due to how the GRC was treating them and I'd like to think Sam's speech at the end had a big enough impact that would result in the GRC making changes to accommodate these people better. And if that were the case, there wouldn't be much of a reason for them to fight.
@toad6884
@toad6884 3 жыл бұрын
Does The Raft stay above water or does it sink when no one is entering or leaving?
@jeremyharbin9450
@jeremyharbin9450 3 жыл бұрын
The flagsmasher that was in the river was also in the truck that blew up because there was only 3 that Bucky caught and 4 were killed so he didn’t survive like you said
@shantaezon3618
@shantaezon3618 3 жыл бұрын
The Hatemonger Idea sounds really good actually, they could definitely that currently relevant the way they did with the Flag Smashers
@juliusceazarm.mendoza8133
@juliusceazarm.mendoza8133 3 жыл бұрын
hey Erik i wanna here from you how you feel about this,that Sharon is a Skrull? 1st Falcon and a Winter soldier was set several months after End Game. 2nd Sharon was also dusted after Infinity War. 3rd its 5yrs being blipped that was very short time to become a Power Broker right?
@jeffwithheldforsafety8359
@jeffwithheldforsafety8359 3 жыл бұрын
For the second to last question I think it was asking what happened to the Cap of that timeline that went into the Ice.
@primusfan87
@primusfan87 3 жыл бұрын
2:15 someone’s phone is on vibrate, lol
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