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So what?

@@MDIbrahim-pg1sk they have no right to speak about democracy. Democracy is clearly the best form of governance.

@@manazon6945 yeah just look at the us and uk

They are having democracy emir of Qatar is like queen of london

We should replace Islam with any religion and then you will be able to start! especially Hinduism as India represents it and Pakistan represents Islam🤣

@@shoaibmemon9557 Yeah 3 dictatorships, 3 constitutions, assassinated or exiled PMs. Sovereignty of Allah, enough said!

@@shoaibmemon9557 The chief foes of democracy and human rights are the United Kingdom and the United States. In Iran and Turkey democracy was introduced in 1906 and 1908 but was failed due to the UK and US, conspiracies, and opposition.

@@WoundedWarrior2012 would you like to elaborate?

Well islam had better versions of democracy beacuse they didn't want no western colonial ideas but back then they had good laws until West ruined it all so people could follow them so apparently the world turns better

gtfo.

@@abt1580 stfu

Do you understand your self

@@abdulaihmuhammed1126 u just proved my point, islam and democracy has no meaning

I think you can have a islamic secular country without problems as long as thestrict interpretation of shariah law is banned.

He is the only one with a sound mind.

I agree... this topic requires long time... Should be in several parts..

Actually it's not but it's a beautiful version of democracy

Impossible Islam has no room for democracy and secularism

In actual Democracy the majority and minority is issue based . it is not permanent , the % will be shifting to both sides

Hope everyone India will start thinking like you .

that's a republic where an individual can stand against the tyrany of the majority.

Adan Eglesias Once again the Muslim world remains ignorant to other people’s beliefs and views

and top of that the video is about democracy haha

No!!!!! Because indonesia that majority of population was a muslim including indonesian president jokowi dodo that himself was a muslim have a role in indonesian democraty

@@gff6929 u should check how the islamic empire begun during the rashidun caliphate

Islam has a problem!!

No

@@awacherif1689 Yes it does. Democracy is man made and Islam won't accept anything other than Allah's laws as made up by Md. , who was ironically ...a man.

Deepak Mathew this talks abt Islam... I believe how can u decide participants sanity?????

@Black Gold BHP child rape party? Then who is Muhammad? Lol..the pedophile that started the desert death cult

​@@lubnasajjad4 because other guy said pakistan is successful country 🤣🤣🤣 Pakistan gdp is almost equal to small city in india called as mumbai.

@@Babayagaom gdp kitna bhi kam ho qabza tou tumsay hota nahi hai, itnay champion ho tou aa k qabza kar lo na. Filmo mai keh keh k dil khush kartay rehtay ho apna Ghuss k marain gay, wo aya tha na tumhara Abhinandan, ghusa tha na wo hamaray han, kesi khatir ki thee, budhhay budhay logo nay chambay lagayay thay rakh rakh k. Baatain auqaat dekh k kia karo

@@lubnasajjad4 mere bhai mumbai jaise chote city i jitna tumhara gdp hai ab toh aankhe kholo. IT medical infra, space, army sab mai piche ho tum. Padhai Karo ab. Israel ko kuch ni kr sakte sab mil k aur india ki baat kr Rahe ho yaar tum

And now the west is literally dying and replacing itself by importing people from non democratic religious civilisations to supplement their population decrease.

@@SI-cd7xs I think the west is doing a pretty good job of killing itself, it doesn't need help from outsiders.

Also Iran or any theocracy. Medieval laws can never progress.

You do know that Arab Secularism was violently crushed by the UK and USA after WWII, right? The people have wanted a separation of church and state in the region but this wasn't allowed by the Western powers that wanted full access to petroleum.

@@kevintheminion1497 no u

Whatever percentage pakistan is successful at democracy, it's just only because of effect of india on it.

@The PatRiot Sorry I was wrong.Taliban is the biggest effect on pakistan.Hehehe

Now an Islamic warlord is governing a debate... Get rid of medeival era war philosophy to subdue a settled humanistic settlement.

@joebob Look . Get things in perspective. He is being most undemocratic in anchoring debate... Islam and democracy are antonyms of eachother... Don't u live in fools paradise. Islam is mediaeval era philosophy which was used to loot, plunder and subdue. Get some history lesson before calling someone dumb. I am more read than what you would have chanted lifelong..

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In Islam, majority opinion doesn't matter. What is good matters and it will be imposed.

@@kodvavi150 thats a good thing.

But I agree with your comment I was just pointing something out. Anyway I also don't think church and state are really completely separate in the US anyway they are trying to put Christianity in politics way too much :/

Separation of religion and state. Personal laws are personal . Where state is needed it reforms to best practices.

The Armenian genocide was about the Ottomans wanted to cleanse their lands as they retreated. And these dictatorships were a lot more successful than their current status now.

LordOfTheDucks you can add arabzanation of Somalia and we're including many other ethnic groups into the Arabs, cause they wanted it. while the white man still sees his color and compare it with the person front him.

"Bangladeshi invasion of Rohingya". Seriously! If this is the base of your knowledge; I'm afraid u r just brainwashed by sort of propaganda. Best of luck

The rule of a lion is always more royal than rule of hundred rats.

why

Shabir Ali Because state is for everybody, church is for a few and each group thinks differently. If we're going to get along, keep fairy tales out of government.

Lone Wolf I know right? Should I take the sticker of mohammed of from my dog's food bowl you think? -- In all fairness, I got the bowls at a garage sale from somebody that had a dog named mohammed. He died mysteriously said the owner.

+Oscar Gonzalez +Shabir Ali. You are so right Oscar Gonzalez. State affairs are for all people of all religions, and so no one religion has the right to dominate state affairs. Religions are simply mystery schools that tell fairy tales, and must be kept out of state affairs.

***** That's why they're all screwed up and in fights for the past 800 years.

Sharia 💯

What does an Islamic fundamentalist do when the democracy he has no choice but to be a part of abandons or denies the religious freedom he once had?

+Waffle Destroyer That's a loaded question. It presumes guilt of the government and/or of the society.

J Santarsiero i'm not sympathizing it's just there's always two sides to the coin

+Waffle Destroyer I understand that. My statement still remains. It points to the problems with deeply held beliefs. Religious or not.

ما كتب عن الديمقراطية في أي استيراد للقرآن؟

What for?

Terrible grammar

@@haneef4189 The comment is in Arabic, what do you mean!!

@@AhmadNasriya The Arabic language has grammar too

And why Islam is always mistaken? All sorts of evils- personal or social, directly contradict Islam.

The first part of my previous post still remains! Why Islam is always mistaken? Myth: Islam is totalitarian. Reality: Besides Quran; which is, in fact, more a book of signs and signals than direct orders, Islam derives it laws from: Ijma; Consensus, Istehsan; Equity, Masalih-Marsala; Public Good, Itedlal; Argument, Ijtihad; Reasoning. These are but clear negation of totalitarianism Myth: Islam is autocratic and claim inerrancy? Reality: Except Quran-which has stood the test of time; Islam never calls any other source as inerrant yes, its contemporary perfection is fully ensured. Our renowned jurists used to say, “Any of our verdicts (law induced), if proved in contradiction to the Quran, throw it on the wall” Even Ahadees; the reported sayings of the Prophet PBUH, which is the second main source of Islamic Law after Quran, have been strictly scrutinized and then declared as authentic or discarded as void. Myth: Islam doesn’t tolerate other religion. Reality: Islam is the only religion on earth whose followers not only regard its own Prophet as esteemed, but all the Prophets, including those of Jews and Christians. The first Islamic state; Madina and then Makkah had many Jews and others as citizens, all were protected and not discriminated against. Even during expansion phase of the Islam, and during wars, civilians were fully protected. NOTE: Nonviolent competition between any two systems, to prove superiority with logical facts cannot be interpreted as intolerance. Myth: The intolerant Mullahs and the terrorist Islamic State etc. are Islamic Reality: Quran here speaks in clear words: Chapter 2, Verse 256: “There is no compulsion in (the acceptance of) Islam.” Regarding IS etc. Quran says: Chapter 5, Verse 32, “Whoever kills any innocent person (Any Person NOT MUSLIM ONLY) is as though he killed all mankind.” And brother, the concept of reward; including punishment for the evil-doers, is the essence of a good system, say ‘good governance”. I’m shocked, how one can have objection over this! As a rule; to challenge a system, 1st one needs to disprove that, 2nd a better-one has to be put forth. But the on ground reality is that all the virtues like: justice, equity, tolerance, respect and abstinence from harming and hurting others etc. all that is thought to be what secularism teaches now, is exactly what Islam has been teaching since 1400 years. Islam, in addition, provides a set of morality as well, which secularism is immune to. Now which one is a better system…………

"Myth: Islam is totalitarian." Ok, but why are there so many Muslims and Muslim states which act like Islam was a totalitarian religion? Many modern insights contradict the Quran and the Bible and in fact all ancient myths in many ways. "Myth: Islam doesn’t tolerate other religion." Is it tolerant about atheists? Or about Hinduism, Buddhism or natural religions? "I’m shocked, how one can have objection over this (punishment of evil-doers)!" So you think that every Muslim is an evil-doer who stones an apostate? Or an adulterer? Or anyone? And if you are shocked about the thought that some evil-doers will never be punished, that does not make your fantasy of punishment after death true. I can't disprove any claim of any fantasy about anything happening after death an in my view nobody can. "all that is thought to be what secularism teaches now, is exactly what Islam has been teaching since 1400 years" That might be true, but it was corrupted. And the reason of that is the claim that there is only one truth. The better system is the system that can adapt to change. Islam has not yet proven that it can do that.

Why double standard brother? About Hitler you say that don’t blame the system/secularism for his acts as his acts contradict secularism. But yourself go against own rule; attack system/Islam for the follies of some Muslims or some so-called Muslim states. Here I don’t plead for Muslims, I say and can prove that Islam is perfect. Yes Muslims are not. “Many Modern Insights contradict Quran” For instance??? Is it tolerate about….? I guess you haven’t read, or comprehended, if read my 2nd post…. What violation of law has it done against any of them? Two or more “isms” challenging the authority of each other have all the rights to challenge each other through argument and logical reasoning. Now that other don’t or can’t and Islam has the mettle to not only challenge but also prove them wrong and that too from within them is itself a proof of its superiority if you seek truth. Stoning to death… Apostate is not stoned to death brother, you have misconception, as I have already said! this is why I urge upon you to please learn about Islam, and I hope your misconception well be removed. Brother why go to Akhirat this early? We are talking about isms in the world, disprove Islam here in matter of world. It was corrupted… You claim, I request please prove it! Better system is which adopts to changes For this re-read my 1st Answer in 2nd post; Other sources of Islamic Laws: they are tools to adopting to modern age.

+Adeel Khan Hitler was not a secularist or an atheist. At least he did never say that. Officially he was a Christ and he wrote in "my struggle" about his admiration of Jesus. He was a fundamentalist. I don't see a double standard here. "I say and can prove that Islam is perfect. " How is Islam "perfect"? And how can you "prove" that? "“Many Modern Insights contradict Quran” For instance???" wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran ""Is it tolerant about ...?" "I guess you haven’t read, or comprehended, if read my 2nd post…." Ok, I admit, you can claim to have the perfect truth and be tolerant about other claims. But the claim having the source of the total truth is totalitarian. "Apostate is not stoned to death" In ISIS, Saudi Arabia, Iran and african Muslim countries either apostates or homosexuals or adulterers are stoned or beheaded and in many places at least ostracized. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#In_Islam en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#Usage_today "It was corrupted… You claim, I request please prove it!" It was corrupted by ISIS, Saudi Arabia, Iran, ...... "Islamic Laws: they are tools to adopting to modern age." I don't think so. Why then are so many Muslims killing each other referring to their belief? Sunni against Shia for instances. Why are Islamic countries far behind in many respects like science, human rights, women's rights, children's rights, homosexual's rights, other religions, freedom of thought, economy, democracy? These are facts, no myths.

because he is a dog and you dont let a dog bark when you are discussing something important , whatever he spoke was irelevant to the topic and haqqani been looking forward to criticize islam .

Because traitors have no respect anywhere

@@malikali5880 wow Peace ful people 😂😂

shahzad abbasi ...I am Iranian and I am against blasphemy law and sharia law. We must fight against sharia law by all means land, water 💧, air and ideas. Soon houthi ,isis, Hamas and hezbullah backed by Iran will destroy Mecca and medina

because Medhi is an islamist working for an Islamist state broadcaster. I'd respect him more if he was honest.

because Medhi is an islamist working for an Islamist state broadcaster. I'd respect him more if he was honest.

Skynet

An Islamist can become president in secular christian majority country but a christian can't become president in muslim majority country.

No need too. It's right there. Islam and democracy never mixes

We don't need your democracy that was found by gay Greeks Bye 👋

@@user-nm3ve6el5s So why would you cry about minority rights of islamist on non muslim land? Or least you shouldn't care. Fact is- You don't want democracy coz you've a tribal faith which isn't liberal and secular. It doesn't lets minority have any rights. That's the reason why islam has failed.

@@trigcat3107 we don't cry. We realize you to live upto your constitution For us is ours constitution and for you is yours based on liberalism which you must fulfill

@@JanLaalaa Haha.. hypocrite 😂😂..

Lebanon is under the control of Hezbollah. The most democratic country in the middle east is Kuwait.

+Obadyahu al-Qaynuqai hezbollah is just a small party within the lebanese parlement. at the last elections the pro western coalition won the majority. kuwait i don't know anything about, but yoh could be right there

Actually Israel is the most democratic country and after it I think Tunisia

Half truth. Democracy leads to corruption & slow destruction of every country - The real meaning of views of Plato & Aristotle on Democracy. Those Muslim countries who refuse western slavery gift called democracy & interest based banking are deliberately destabilized...

@@smokiebad exactly

@smokiebads2452 Give some research paper build a prototype without aid? Can you.

there is no stoning in the Quran only in the made-up hadiths from the Umayyad Caliphate

The form of islam now being followed in many parts of the world in islamic and non islamic countries is the Saudi backed wahabi which teaches a strict interpretation. It also opposes democracy in favour of sharia law. Imagine Saudi law spreading into western countries. This could be reality within 20-30 years with the current birth rates. Belgium could be one of the first to feel the effects. I sam a british sikh guy, born in the uk and proud to be British but i can see my kids when they are older with their own kids looking to emigrate back to india if islam is not driven back.

These guys are fooling themselves and those countries they purport to speak about if they seriously believe life is going to get any better if the state give authority to clerics, introduces stoning and amputation, building mosques and madrassas, and "rights" that have not evolved for 1400 years etc etc. The Islamist agenda is just substituting one form of authoritarianism with another. It doesn't address any of the issues that might impact on people.

This observation includes knowledge of our own Western political history.

Just look at China. That country might serve as a role model of how a country can become both prosperous and stable without the need to pretend it's a formal democracy.

@@johnroberts8233 are u kidding?

Faisal Kalim well said akhi

You're just too lazy to think yourself what is right and wrong. Listen to your heart, not to some scripture written by another human 1400 years ago where mankind lived like savages.

..I am Iranian and I am against blasphemy law and sharia law. We must fight against sharia law by all means land, water 💧, air and ideas. Soon houthi ,isis, Hamas and hezbullah backed by Iran will destroy Mecca and medina

lol that's probably her request.

..I am Iranian and I am against blasphemy law and sharia law. We must fight against sharia law by all means land, water 💧, air and ideas. Soon houthi ,isis, Hamas and hezbullah backed by Iran will destroy Mecca and medina

.On the gentleman's point saying that if a majority of voters chose an Islamic Oriented Governing Body, it's still a democracy. (Sorry, this was omitted when I put it up...)

That is what happened in Egypt when the muslim brotherhood were elected and sharia law was strictly enforced. Then they were forced out by the military and then banned. Its is like brexit vote. Once we realised the implications of leaving the eu it was too late and now majority of people regret doing it

Even though there is no legitimate Islamic document that specifically address governance like the bill of rights, it is commonly agreed that an Islam Oriented Governing Body would look like/operate the way it was operated during the time of prophet Muhammad and the first four caliphs, also known as the "rightly-guided" caliphs. Which derive most of its laws from the Qur'an and the Hadith. Which, contrary to popular belief, actually guarantees the rights of all non-muslims and demands that they be treated equally before the law. To get an idea of what it would be like I suggest you take a look at the Medina Charter, drafted over 1400 years ago by prophet Muhammad himself. Where it even described the way to treat prisoners of war. With kindness. Something alien even in some countries today, let alone over 14 centuries ago. Or take a look at the pledge that caliph Umar gave to the people of Jerusalem. How he pledged to guarantee the personal safety and religious freedom of the non-Muslim locals of Jerusalem. I believe that these are the examples that we can look up to, sadly very different with what we currently commonly see in the middle east today

I am Iranian and I am against blasphemy law and sharia law. We must fight against sharia law by all means land, water 💧, air and ideas. Soon houthi backed by Iran will destroy Mecca and medina.

Logical pow me too

what language do you want him to speak?

H U D A UwU Any of the other languages of the Earth

H U D A UwU He made Earth apparently so why does he only speak Arabic

H U D A UwU The first people were Africans and they didn’t speak Arabic

TP1303 05 he spoke to Jesus and Moses and they don’t speak Arabic.

Hi darshan more

Wdym?

Ya they are safe any problem kulbushan lover

4 coups and yet Army rules pakistan. That's indeed successful democracy 😆

Dr dark They aren’t, look up how Christians are treated in Pakistan

you forgot terrorism

And blast yourself Saying ola hu akbar

@@nameall2808 Saying what 😂

Mohamed the Praised one Ibraheem Friend of God not only that Islam is anti racism by establishing salah and fasting month will lead more more n more extra charity . establish salah and jakat

Ya and same sharia also means death to all infidels.

rajeevrp who said that you are wrong we only kill traitors

rajeevrp , U r proved to be wrong as there r many Coptic christian till now, in Arabian paenensula since Prophet Muhammad (saw) ' S time.

But that’s just a line in Quran, tell me how many practice it ? I bet not a single wealthy Muslim would do that ....

the deeper in debt the west gets, the more they intensify their "War on terror"/ looting and pillaging the middle east

money is kept privately. the pupil can't even get proper education. this is the *"demo-crazy"* these ignorant leaders of muslim lands want us to follow.

Ugh a stalin pic behind you. Commies should have been exterminated along time ago.

No, it's entirely understandable as it's an interconnected world. Islamic extremism affects everyone, not just the Middle East

কাজী ইফতেখার the main reason is oil they will move your nose here in the middle east u till a single mine of oil is left....

Its has a conclusion. Islam and Democracy... bad combination