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The problem is that they think they will go to heaven if they kill us.

Douglas Murray must be the one of the absolute sharpest minds on Earth right now.

Religious violence has no valid excuse.

Before the establishment of Pakistan in 1947, the region now known as Pakistan was part of a larger Indian subcontinent with a diverse religious population, including Hindus. Over time, particularly leading up to British India's partition, these areas became predominantly Muslim.The same thing happened in Lebanon, which was supposed to be a refuge for Christians, but now they are in a low percentage compared to Muslims.

Douglas Murray’s answer exposes Islamism’s End Times goal.

18 minutes of Taqiyyah from Maajid and 6 minutes of truth from Douglas. ‘Chef’s kiss’ .

You've probersbly heard this before" the extremist Moslem cuts the neck while the moderate Moslem holds the feet "..someone famous from the past said it...

Separate religion from politics.

Too much focus on religious freedom, not enough focus on freedom from religion.

Surah Al-Ma'idan 54: "O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as guardians-they are guardians of each other. Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people." We can never trust Islamists, as they believe somehow their book is holy.

Masjid is just the latest .... more acceptable face of Islam..... he’s saying nothing

🌎🕊️❤️separate all religions from politics! and stand up against those who want to combine them !! firecly ✊

Thank you Douglas Murray 🔆

I thought I was going to see a debate, it’s really all about the dude in tartan trousers.

That guy doing the "steelmanning"seemed to be enjoying it very much,i think he's batting for the other team.

Interesting to see how much more nationalist Douglas has become since 2018. He sees how much worse things have gotten, seen the October 7 Hamas attacks, and sees how things need to radically change asap.

Douglas = STAR

This is not a discussion. Nawaz has 75% of the time. If Nawaz trying to justify, it's understandable. Forget everything nuisance and go to the theology of Islam. People are only mode of instruments. What's is written in the holy books of Islam are the sources of the problems. To exercise mental gymnastics don't help. The society in the western nations are changing for the worst.

I bought a car from a guy wearing plaid pants once. Never again.

Wtf is it the masjid nawaz show or what, is everyone else on there just for show to hear his speeches, what a decent of conversation, a never ending steel man, that’s how he thinks and feels

Regardless of your position, this video highlights many important facts.

8:50 🙄 oh yeah he can use old tired al qaeda & bin laden talking points that they never really gave 2 💩s about. And US foreign policy didnt exist 1400 years ago when they started doing this /attempting to do all the same 💩

Douglas really is the dog's bollocks.

Sam had a lot of anxiety when maajid was adjusting mic

lets all share this video. Israel depends on it..

Blether obfuscation and a very odd definition of steel manning: you can't steel man your own position! The fact that he read out (very bad manners) pages of his own book to a captive audience, and that he wouldn't counter that allegedly "theoretical" position speaks volumes.

What a golden Triangle we are witnessing here. BELIEVE ME....

no one 'interest' is universal in application, sometimes economic interest trumps social liberties, etc. The approach needs to be 'on balance' would you rather operate under 'western' systems and values or Muslin systems & values? note that Muslin refugees do not generally 'escape' to other Muslin countries, so they have voted with their feet.

Wow, sam is a word salad expert, egalitarianism in islam? For the women? For rhe non islamic? What idiotic statements

propaganda is islams greatest strength , for a realistic view of islam , view history of islam, my childhood in lebanon, indoctrination in american schools and universities, muslim brotherhood, all by brigitte gabriel.

Ultimately, if we can focus on the power of love, not the love of power, things will change.

Great to hear from Douglas Murray for 5 seconds!! ASA He starts to speak, the vid ends

Half way through and all I’ve heard was tartan trousers rant.

18:53 Douglas starts

Keep still Steelman. You're making us seasick.

Can’t he articulate his ideas without reading from his own,just released and in the lobby for purchase, book? Does this guy live/love to hear his own words? His agent advised him to read an excerpt- excerpt?! More like a chapter! Of his own f-ink book! I am writing this as he drones on, which is why it’s so long…then at the end of this hardly a single response from the audience, and the panel looking at their shoes, their nails, who were thinking the exact same thing. Then he went into cross-armed self reflection about how stupid and boorish his self-aggrandizement pitch was…then Douglas swoops in and slays him with a few simple phrases…and then he mentions his book again!?

NO WAR

Watched a video “ defunding of UNRWA what Muslims need to know “ calling for Muslims to become activist and infiltrate systems eg joining military, education, etc.

Sure dude....Persians and Arabs were peaceful until GEORGE BUSH... history much

wow Maajid Nawaz's opening argument is so dumb

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Actually it's western christian values that work, be intellectually honest at least.

DM just talks sense Listen to this man A man with integrity. Plus he is a World 🌍 class journalist And travelled the globe 🌍🌎👍🏽🇳🇿👍🏽kiwi 👍🏽respect

What a joke pure arrogance and ego projecting LOL

There are excuses for ALL your manmade religions people of the WORLD .l find most cruelty is ignored, human rights are not universal, greed instead of total welfare for the poor. If you live IN PEACE its EVERYDAY and join your communities to support it as a whole Britain would not be revolting today.

If you need 10 minutes to make a point, you have no point.

The primary cause of conflict involving Muslims is an unceasing and irrational thirst for conquest. Islam has followed a consistent policy that has combined politics, war, terror, and religion. Its purpose was, and remains, essentially religious, however unwilling we might be, because of our own presuppositions, to grant that fact. This purpose follows a reading of the Koran as Islam’s central guide and ultimate justification as the message of Allah to mankind. It also manifests the core reason why Islam, throughout its history, has sought to expand. Other motives-economic, ethnic, and political-were also present, but this religious motive was at its core. Until that core is rejected by enough individual Muslims, it will continue to inspire, by ever varying means-sometimes peaceful, sometimes violent-this drive to conquer what is not yet under Islamic control. Islam has followed a consistent policy that has combined politics, war, terror, and religion. Its purpose was, and remains, essentially religious, however unwilling we might be, because of our own presuppositions, to grant that fact. The Sharif of Mecca wrote to Muhammed (II), calling him ‘the one who has aided Islam and the Muslims, the Sultan of all kings and sultans,’ and-further underscoring the idea that conquest over infidels is the epitome of Islamic piety-‘the resuscitator of the Prophet’s sharia. Muslim hostility for the West is not an aberration but a continuation of Islamic history. What is difficult for many to understand is the persistence of a singular purpose, carried on century after century: the submission of the world to Allah. Both those who believe in nothing and those who believe in other gods are tempted to think such a concept to be preposterous or impossible. Yet this purpose is what motivated and inspired the Muslim caliphs, beys, emirs, sheiks, merchants, and peasants, whether Sunni or Shiite, to continue their mission no matter how hopeless it seemed at first. This expansion involved massive genocides and slaughters in various parts of the world and in different eras, about which Ibrahim gives a detailed and often graphic account. But such shocking means, deliberately undertaken, do not obviate this prior religious purpose. Indeed, this religious purpose is part of the rationale of the expansion, which used whatever means that worked. The philosophical voluntarism that finally explained Muslim actions came into being to justify the use of violence in religion. As explained by al Ghazelli in the eleventh century, Allah could will the opposite of what he willed; everything depends on Allah’s will that is bound to no permanent truth. Islamic armies saw themselves as expansionary and messianic, eager to engage the West and to annex its territory and convert its people. It is a monolithic struggle against Christendom rather than against particular European States. And if Islam ever gains the power again, it will do exactly as it did before. The Crusades were not signs of Christian aggressiveness but of a final, usually desperate effort to protect themselves from Muslim incursions. The only time a Muslim doubts his faith is when he is soundly defeated in battle. A striking thing is the extent and prevalence of slavery, of slave markets, of the need of slaves to make possible the kind of life that Muslim leaders carved out for themselves. If it can expand by democratic means as well as with terror and war, so much the better. The end remains the same-the conquest of the world for Allah, the mission assigned to it from the beginning. It cannot be Islam and deny what is in the Koran. Wherever the Koran is read carefully and seriously, the drive for world submission to Allah will reappear and continue. A Muslim is free to say in public that he will not practice violence provided that he secretly agrees in his heart that he will follow, when he can, the Koran and what it says about such violence. Historically, Christians and non-Christians falling under the control of Muslim majorities have been required to pay a fine and accept second class citizenship, convert, or die. Peace for Islam means the condition brought about when everyone is Muslim. Until then, a state of war with non-Muslims de facto exists. Again, the purpose of Islam is the subjection of all men and nations to Allah. Without this ultimate goal, Islam is not Islam. Show less

He's straw-manning the West.

Is this a competition of the tightest trousers ???

Blah blah blah! It’s all about oil not one of them spoke of this The Gulf states total unwillingness to share the oil wealth and rather indulge themselves in decadent riches and lavishing themselves like in Dubai Qatar and Saudi et al… this conversation is worthless!! No mention of the greed of Arab states around OIL. With their gold plated toilets five wives expensive designer clothes etc truly disgusting.

Why never bring in a REAL muslim schoolar to these kind of discussions ? So one sided...

USA and the royals attended hitlers Olympics and fought With hitlers SS

One of my copy and pastes (it's quite random here haha): Nice. Excessive calories. Fat people choose to be fat. Non-vegan people are the unhealthiest, especially ones that drink (one of the very worst of drugs, according to studies), are fat, and vape (even without nicotine, vaping restricts vessels, among several other bad things).

I see he always criticizes Islam but not Christianity or Judaism. Why is that? 🤔🤔

His comments are almost agreeable, except for the piles of misinformation and propaganda.

Very convincing letter, but it is allso full of half truths and a lie

As much as I praise DM, he actually had no substantial point against the opening remarks, polemics, perhaps none exist, NATO lol, i guess ukraine should also thank NATO. UK's identity was long lost during suez canal crisis when US showed who is the daddy and UK became nothing but US' stooge, all the foreign policy stuff we are talking about is US, UK is just an instrument of it from atleast 6 decades. US used taliban and Mujahideen in afghanistan again Russia, funded pakistan to export these radical militias intro Afg, when you breed snakes in your backyard they will bite you one day. Super idiocy is that they used islamic radicals for their propaganda in Afghanistan, then invaded islamic countries like Iraq too, what were they expecting? Muslim world will give them medal of honor? Lol Bush was such an idiot, so was Tony Blair,

Can't be the victim when you are the initial attackers. You always okay the victim after attacking because the repercussions are by a more prosperous and advanced society. Maybe quit attacking first. Though that goes against the hate and mission of the Muslim cause.

The key being defining your made up terminology.

The point about Capitalism is spot on. We in the West value our progressive secular democracies, but at the same time we pursue wealth and growth and will compromise at nothing to achieve it!!! We are living by double standards.

If your think D.M is very sharp then He must debate finkelstein or hijab Then we can see how sharp he is or He is a just a liar

Majid is great. Very sincere eloquent and grounded. He knows his stuff.

Do you know why "their" side seems so inviting and "ours" doesn't? Is because "their" women haven't eviscerated masculinity and destroyed the concepts of "honour" and "glory".

The crusaders ideology

Sam Harris is definitely not all he is cracked up to be. Waffle Central.

Religion has prophecy the battle of Armageddon as started 🙏🏼❤️🔥XOXOXO

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Араб все перекрутил с ног на голову

Let Douglas debate Glen Greenwald, or Norman Finkelstein or Noam Chomsky? Never going to happen.!

Douglas Murray is a certified maniac ponce

Thats right, listen to Murray who suffers from Chronic Islamophobic Disorder.

2020s: Muslims - Douglas Murray 1920s: Jews - Hans Fritzsche 1820s: Blacks - The journalist every rascist liked

I like this guy. Hes like a posh Tommy Robinson. Britain! Troops!