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@amcc666
@amcc666 Ай бұрын
I’m not trying to be obtuse, but it is worth noting that most Jews from Arab countries were expelled from their nations after Israel’s creation - they didn’t go to Israel of their own accord
@shafsteryellow
@shafsteryellow Ай бұрын
Israel actively pursued that
@amcc666
@amcc666 Ай бұрын
@@shafsteryellow they for sure wanted it, but they didn’t write laws in Libya, Egypt, Iraq etc banning Jews
@zackerycooper1206
@zackerycooper1206 Ай бұрын
@@amcc666Well, Israel did pursue false flag attacks in 1954 that gained the name The Lavon Affair intending to pressure Israelis to emigrate
@universalcitizen9429
@universalcitizen9429 Ай бұрын
They were offered incentives by Israel to move there. Many did so willingly. There were also persecutions as well as Arabs wanted to unfortunately exact revenge for Palestinians in an unfair way. Many Arabs governments also rightly feared that Israel would use their Jewish populations against them to influence foreign policy and pressure their government just like Jews do in the US still today
@edres7563
@edres7563 Ай бұрын
There are so many holes in your story, i just dont know where to begin. Youd think that in the age of information, you would have at least come across the numerous sources of information that is available in relation to this most covered of conflicts. You are either totally naive and captured by the usual insidious palestine propaganda, or you are pretending to be impartial, because you have done nothing but regurgitate countless lies, disinformation and propaganda. I used to be pro palestine my whole life because i too swallowed the usual propaganda, cleverly crafted by the most sophisticated of propaganda masters on the so called palestinin side, to appeal to all the usual cues of people in the west. But it was only with the advent of the internet, that i was finally able to deep dive and check out all sides with an honest desire to get to the truth, and I like many others who have also done this deep dive, have come to the only sensible conclusion, which is that we been duped big time by the so called palestine cause, which is nothing short of the most disingenuous cause ever to have existed possibly in the history of humanity. I dont have time to go into all the countless points of history that this video has either missed or deliberately failed to include, but anyone who is genuinely interested in getting closer to the truth, I would recommend a youtuber called Destiny, who recently took an honest and public deep dive from a totally neutral perspective, and shared his findings with his audience. Its not perfect, but at least he was thorough and honest and done in genuine good faith and anyone who is genuinely interested in the truth, should start there and examine what he has found, research it further yourself, and check his conclusions to see if it holds up to the light of day.
@axel665
@axel665 Ай бұрын
Also aren't Jews from Arab states the North Africa the largest demographic of Jews in israel not those who came from Europe
@dionysus913
@dionysus913 Ай бұрын
While I don’t have the exact stats, today about 80% of Israeli Jews were born in Israel, 14% are immigrants from Europe and the Americas, and the last 6% are from Asia and Africa. This is according to Israel Central Bureau of Statistics. Considering that the majority of Israeli settlers were originally European Jews and American Jews, majority Orthodox in the first and second waves of settlement, its probably not accurate to describe Arabic and North African Jews to be the majority of Israeli Jews.
@don7784
@don7784 Ай бұрын
@@dionysus913 Im Israeli and I can tell you that Mizrahi jews (Arabic and North African jews) are definitely the majority here. Ashkenazi jews are almost considered a minority by this point.
@jackyex
@jackyex Ай бұрын
​@@dionysus913Sephardic Jews are the biggest population group, more like a plurality. They aren't the majority but the biggest group.
@oremfrien
@oremfrien Ай бұрын
@@dionysus913 What you're assuming incorrectly is that the majority of Israeli Jews who were born in Israel are descended from the European and American Jews who came prior to 1948. In 1948, the population of Israeli Jews (made overwhelmingly of European and American Jews) was 600,000 and between 1948-1957, roughly 500,000 Jews from the Middle East and North Africa immigrated to Israel, meaning that by 1957, the country's Jewish population was roughly evenly split between people from European/American ancestry and people from MENA. The Jews from MENA had somewhat higher birth rates and so they became the majority of the Jewish population in Israel, at least until Soviet Jewish migration in the 1990s. If we compare Jews with origins from Europe/America and Jews with origins from MENA, there are still more Jews with origins from MENA but not a majority since there is a significant percentage of Israeli Jews with mixed heritage now.
@dionysus913
@dionysus913 Ай бұрын
@@oremfrien Neat, I’d love to see where you got those statistics from, by the way. Doesn’t change the fact that the Zionist movement was inspired by European colonialism, was headed by European Jews, and was largely encouraged by European governments. And the first waves of people to arrive were largely European and American Jews, ingrained with a “Manifest Destiny” mindset nearly identical to those of American settlers and British colonists. Take the United States for example: While the demographics of the United States are quite diverse, containing large populations of White, Black, Latiné, Asian, Middle Eastern, Slavic, etc. etc. it is undeniable that the United States was founded by White European men, with the interests of keeping White men at the top of the social ladder. The same is true of Israel. While it now contains a multitude of people of different ethnicities and colors, it was created with the interests of European Jews in mind. (South Africa is also a good example, having a black majority population but having apartheid laws that propped up a white minority, so just having a diversity of population does not necessarily make a nation any less systematically racist or oppressive.) There’s also a storied history of “Ashkenaziation” in which Ashkenazi (Eastern European) Jews have become almost a standard for Jewish-ness within Israel itself, with Mizrahi (Arab and North African) Jews and Ethiopian Jews encouraged to integrate into Ashkenazi culture and leave their own cultural customs behind. I believe it’s even addressed in the video itself. It’s not about how many people there are, it’s about the dominant culture and the systems built around that culture.
@fuckboi_killa
@fuckboi_killa Ай бұрын
You know this is complicated when the closest the conflict has come to peace was just one side acknowledging the other side existed
@Morgan_of_the_Maxilla
@Morgan_of_the_Maxilla Ай бұрын
You say that like Jews havent been calling Palestinians a Soviet invention for decades
@AyamanAmusic
@AyamanAmusic Ай бұрын
We don't call them like that, thank you very much.​@Morgan_of_the_Maxilla
@mjsteele42
@mjsteele42 Ай бұрын
@@Morgan_of_the_Maxilla Nice lie there.
@captainpancake8177
@captainpancake8177 Ай бұрын
​@Morgan_of_the_Maxilla they just say they don't fucking exist it's crazy
@gogodaal7273
@gogodaal7273 Ай бұрын
Why would the Palestinians recognize their ethnic cleansers and occupiers?
@MyFuckVevo
@MyFuckVevo Ай бұрын
man until 31:44 you had me but saying the intifada was most a peaceful protest is just lying or not knowing the history
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan Ай бұрын
It was mostly peaceful. Not devoid of violence, in the same way as the civil rights protests in Northern Ireland were mostly peaceful. I know I simplify history, but be careful you don’t simplify it too much either way.
@barzomer2639
@barzomer2639 17 күн бұрын
@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan suicide bombings, mass shootings and kidnappings... what's the non violent part in all of this?
@striker7625
@striker7625 17 күн бұрын
​it was majorly non violent all the violence which was committed was initiated by Israel and all those bombings came as response read about the intifada even U.N agrees it started out as a non violent protest which was turned violent by I.D.F
@barzomer2639
@barzomer2639 17 күн бұрын
@@striker7625 the UN has a majority for anti-west dictatorships, that's why every year 50% of all condemnations are on Israel, it's completely biased political source. In reality you had lynches of civilians, suicide bombings, stabbing and mass shootings of civilians and policemen, hundreds of violent riots with explosives and rocks thrown... every intifada was a period where jews knew not to go near a palestinian village because those who accidentally did- appeared on the news that night, in a hospital or a coffin. On what ground do you say it was "mostly peaceful"? That's like saying the kristalnacht or the Farhud were mostly peaceful (well, since the majority of the rioters didn't get the chance to kill or burn anything they didn't do any violence, only a few!). Such BS apologism for terrorism.
@striker7625
@striker7625 17 күн бұрын
@@barzomer2639 do you have a credible sources ?? Give sources for the lynches and bombs with reference to where you got you're sources from
@veronicatoothpaste8576
@veronicatoothpaste8576 Ай бұрын
23:50 denmark was able to save 95% of their Jewish population due to germany's diplomat to Denmark warned the resistance that Germany would roundup all the Jews, he even was the one to get Sweden accept the jews
@shneurz7cups846
@shneurz7cups846 Ай бұрын
17:16 - "kibbutz" is a Hebrew word, not Yiddish
@filipinordabest
@filipinordabest Ай бұрын
Whaaaaaaa, person pointing out misinformation actually points out real misinformation?
@alexanderthegrape5641
@alexanderthegrape5641 Ай бұрын
Wait what’s the difference between Yiddish and Hebrew. Ain’t em both Jew language lol
@shneurz7cups846
@shneurz7cups846 Ай бұрын
@@alexanderthegrape5641 Hebrew is an ancient Semitic language (it is the language of most of the Bible) and Yiddish is a variation of High German spoken by Jews throughout Europe and is an Indo-European language. They are both used almost exclusively by Jews.
@stephenandersen4625
@stephenandersen4625 Ай бұрын
@@alexanderthegrape5641. Yiddish is a German dialect with spoken in by Jews in Eastern Europe. It’s tied to a couple of different practices in the Holy Roman Empire the Jews came under the authority of the Emperor not the local lord and as such were likely to live in the cities And then, further east, many areas had German aristocracy (e.g. the Teutonic Knights) who ruled over Slavic and Baltic dual populations while the Jews were the Merchant class in the cities. So they spoke German…. With a Jewish accent all over Eastern Europe .
@gordogenero5762
@gordogenero5762 25 күн бұрын
@@alexanderthegrape5641aren’t English and French both Christian languages? 🤣🤣
@bentrinker1937
@bentrinker1937 Ай бұрын
I’m a little annoyed of the description of the first Aliyah in 1880 and the portrayal of Russias pogroms against the Jews as a reaction to Jewish emancipation across Europe is just wrong. The violence against the Jew was caused by the assassination of tsar Alexander the second in 1881 by an anti-monarchist group and the Russian peasants naturally blamed the Jew which lead to the violence. Also, that comment from the Arab, “aren’t you guys Russians” is misleading. The Jews in Russia were not Russians. They were Jews they were distinctly separate and treated as such. Jews weren’t allowed to live in Russia proper they had to live in the pale of settlements (modern day this refers to Latvia Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, the eastern half of Poland, and a good chunk of Ukraine.
@bentrinker1937
@bentrinker1937 Ай бұрын
I’m also annoyed at the portrayal of lord Balfour. He may have had other motives but he also recognized how poorly Europe had treated the Jews for centuries and wanted to make it right in some way.
@dionysus913
@dionysus913 Ай бұрын
Wait, so you’re saying Jewish Russians weren’t Russian? I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous. It’s like saying a Japanese American isn’t an American or that a German Jew isn’t a Jew (like the USA said of Japanese Americans or the Nazis said of German Jews during the Second World War). While they might have different cultural practices, they are still very much of the nation they were born in, whether they be Jewish or any other ethnicity or culture. You’re playing into a talking point used by the literal fucking Nazis, that of “dual loyalty”.
@chuckecheese5251
@chuckecheese5251 Ай бұрын
I'd give this history a "Mostly Accurate but cherry picked" for example Liberia was built by former slaves who wanted to leave the US and Americas one of the concepts founders being Fredrick Douglass
@enjoyingend1939
@enjoyingend1939 Ай бұрын
Or at 27:00 where instead of saying that the arab states ethnically cleansed the jews living there, he states that israel "convinced" them to move......
@generalamsel437
@generalamsel437 Ай бұрын
@@enjoyingend1939 Well Israel did support immigration from these areas, It just should have also emphasized that many where pressured by the ruling population and government to leave either by economic pressure or violence.
@enjoyingend1939
@enjoyingend1939 Ай бұрын
@@generalamsel437 The problem is that the campaigns of ethnic cleansing by those arab states which now have almost single digit jewish populations was entirely omitted. He only mentions the part that doesn't make the arab cause look bad, and that isn't the only time he does that in the video either.
@King_Gum
@King_Gum Ай бұрын
​@@enjoyingend1939 False flag attacks carried out by Israel in places like Iraq to get Jews to flee to Israel is also a factor I'm sure you don't mind being added to the discussion.
@enjoyingend1939
@enjoyingend1939 Ай бұрын
@@King_Gum i deal in facts, and the fact of the matter is, aside from the lavon affair there is little evidence to support any other israeli "false flag" operation, the iraqi bombings as i believe you're referring to are to this day an unresolved issue with no clear motives. It's all allegations to this day and i don't pick sides in a she said/ he said situation.
@maninthewall7050
@maninthewall7050 Ай бұрын
Well this is not going to be even slightly controversial
@maninthewall7050
@maninthewall7050 Ай бұрын
You know what would be really cool? You did a video on the history of Lord of The Rings- maybe do one about the history of A Song Of Ice And Fire- like the Targaryen dynasty
@michaellynes3540
@michaellynes3540 Ай бұрын
That comment is going to be a “Hold my Beer”
@maninthewall7050
@maninthewall7050 Ай бұрын
@@michaellynes3540 Which one? The first one or the second one?
@michaellynes3540
@michaellynes3540 Ай бұрын
@@maninthewall7050 the first one.
@smithPalacios-ir4ct
@smithPalacios-ir4ct Ай бұрын
bro when are you going to make a new video
@dxfl123
@dxfl123 Ай бұрын
This took balls to post.
@dimaignatiev6370
@dimaignatiev6370 Ай бұрын
Lots of them...
@dvalle1320
@dvalle1320 26 күн бұрын
@@raz5802 cry more im almost done
@raz5802
@raz5802 26 күн бұрын
@@dvalle1320 almost done what?
@ApeX-pj4mq
@ApeX-pj4mq 25 күн бұрын
⁠@@raz5802You really don’t want to know what he is almost done doing
@yummiestfern2316
@yummiestfern2316 25 күн бұрын
@@raz5802you say "post lies" without providing anything to prove there were lies let alone a single source to counter them
@Jenna-hu7mp
@Jenna-hu7mp Ай бұрын
The Romans changed the region name to Palastine in order to seperate the Jew's connection to the land. You didn't mention why that did that. You also missed when then Islamist arabs invaded them, driving out the local population and colonizing it themselves. 10:00 You forgot to mention it being in retaliation of hundreds of years of muslim wars and aggression. This video seems to be coming at it from a biased angle with what it being left out.
@godhelp7535
@godhelp7535 Ай бұрын
more like history sides with the palestinians and your crying over it
@user-kh5qi1rm7h
@user-kh5qi1rm7h Ай бұрын
Regardless of your point. The indigenous people who called themselves Palestinian were expelled from their land to make way for foreigners. I say the indigenous people the Palestinians have more Jew DNA in them than the foreigners. Stop defending the indefensible.
@chershire109
@chershire109 Ай бұрын
@@user-kh5qi1rm7h umm kinda wrong dna does not equal ingenious and jew were living in palestine and when arab nation kicks out jews from their nation(because of a jewish nation) most of the jew are mizrachi jew and are arab in israel so wrong and muslim treat the jew kinda like chrsitains and those arab are the palestinians. their not foreigner your family of jew dont need to live in palesine your jewish because your mom is. what do you mean by foreigner
@aleks6977
@aleks6977 Ай бұрын
​@@godhelp7535History sides with no-one. Both parties of this conflict have committed atrocities and portraying either side as righteous is absolutely wrong.
@dionysus913
@dionysus913 Ай бұрын
1. No they didn’t. The name Palestine finds its earliest uses in the roughly translated Egyptian “Peleset” and Assyrian “Palashtu” in referring to the region, as well as the Biblical Philistines. In the Torah, the area of Palestine was never given clearly defined boundaries, but was just said as having been in conflict with the Kingdom of Israel. The Greeks used the term Palestine as early as the 5th Century, and Romans renamed Judea as Syria Palaestina as it was part of larger Syria. It is unknown if this happened before the Bar Kokhba revolt or after. It is inaccurate to say that the name Palestine was exclusively used to pave over Israel and erase Israel’s Jewish roots. 2. When? I’d love to know exactly what colonization or conquest you’re talking about. Was this before or after the Jewish diaspora into the wider European continent after the Bar Kokhba revolt? 3. Muslim wars and aggression? It’s hard to say that this “aggression” is unique to the Muslim nations of the time. Compared to their European counterparts, the Muslim nations were actually considered more peaceful and accepting of different faiths during the Middle Ages. As well as being a hub for growing scientific and mathematical knowledge, Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike were allowed to life their lives practicing their own religion. So painting Muslim nations with such a broad brush just comes off as Xenophobic. What about the aggressive and warmongering Italian states, constantly embroiled in their own civil wars? And their aggressive colonization of the Mediterranean? Wouldn’t that perhaps make Muslim states nervous for a European Catholic invasion? Or maybe you can’t paint states full of “people I don’t like” as violent and destructive without proof.
@davidlaredo2501
@davidlaredo2501 23 күн бұрын
Oh the Irish…. You are trying to present this as an objective read on history, But this is a mere interpretation of yours and also an highly inaccurate one. What genocide are you talking about? What mass starvation? No numbers support your claims. What kind of “historian” are you? Do you know what genocide really looks like? Try covering what Bassar El Assad did it his people on Syria, or the war in Yemen, or what the Turks did and still doing to The Armanians and Kurds. I don’t mind you being a hypocrite and ignorant, But all in all this is pretty amateur work if I’ll be honest. Considered subscribing when I saw the title, but hard pass for me.
@Very_Silly_Individual
@Very_Silly_Individual 23 күн бұрын
It's SO biased.
@natethenoble909
@natethenoble909 Ай бұрын
Lovely content, but I do have to say some things are somewhat misleading.... Jews in Arab states werent "encouraged" by Israel to leave. In what is in many ways a reverse Nakba, the Arab states they lived in relentlessly persecuted them and forced them out. The 1948 Arab Israeli war was the result of the Jewish state declaring its independence, but also all neighbouring Arab Nations and Palestinians absolutrly refusing the UN compromise which drew the borders, something Israel accepted. Now these borders suited Israel just fine, and the Palestinians saw some of the land granted to the Jews as theirs (which to be fair, some was). Regardless, the bloodshed and violence needs to end. What the Israeli government is currently doing in Gaza is horrific, and so were the attacks made by Hamas. Too many people have died. The only way we can live together is to put this all behind us.
@Rajaz117
@Rajaz117 Ай бұрын
I'm palestinian and that's definitely true. And some were also terrorized by the zionists in their arab countries like throwing hand grenades into synagogues in iraq
@CutieZalbu
@CutieZalbu Ай бұрын
I can’t believe you just equated what a bunch of rugtag losers like hamas did to an occupying force to a nuclear state leveling the whole land,This two things aren’t equivalents.
@emmawalter5433
@emmawalter5433 Ай бұрын
Am Yisrael Chai!
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Ай бұрын
​@ot8479Amazing, all three actions are in response to Arab terror against the Jews which started in the 1800s (even before), the list of Arab massacres on Jews is much larger and goes back further.
@eyallevin6302
@eyallevin6302 Ай бұрын
Much worse than the Nakba Arabs mostly left because of there commanders. Jews left because they were kicked out (a much higher percentage of Jews who left were kicked out then Arabs who left)
@user-li9nr9el1s
@user-li9nr9el1s Ай бұрын
as a 13 year old israeli who grew up with a famliy that hates the govermant and learned as much as i could about this conflict for almost a year, who have been through scary experiences before, i really hope that my generation would be the end of this conflict.
@colinmarch30
@colinmarch30 Ай бұрын
Your generation needs to stop zionism
@holybread2583
@holybread2583 Ай бұрын
"אני בן 13 וזה כל כך עמוק"
@ghostlytavern129
@ghostlytavern129 29 күн бұрын
I hope so as well kid I’m sorry I can imagine hearing people call for your country to be gone to be difficult and confusing. You’re doing a good job educating yourself, I don’t agree with Israel’s existence not because I don’t think Jewish folk deserve community but because I think you can not solve one genocide with another. I think no religious government should have control of the state, it should be safe for all religions and all people. Your history is horrific and beyond sad I just hope that a good end can come from this conflict and that no one in our modern age has to fear where they live because of they’re religion
@playinglifeoneasy9226
@playinglifeoneasy9226 28 күн бұрын
Sorry it’s not gonna be fixed in this generation because the Palestinian generations are getting more and more entrenched in a fictional narrative in which Jews are the villains of the world and lies about stolen land and they just wanna kill you October 7 was there declaration they don’t want peace they want you and your family gone and or dead did not ask anybody’s politics. They didn’t ask whether you wanted a two solution or a one solution whether you voted for Leor labor they didn’t ask whether people were Jewish or Muslim. They didn’t ask whether you were Israeli or Palestinian, they just raged and tortured and gourd like a water buffalo. You cannot make peace with somebody who wants you and your family dead please be careful.
@Themanwhosoldtheworld-kt9cv
@Themanwhosoldtheworld-kt9cv 27 күн бұрын
@@holybread2583slawg😭🙏
@johnferraro707
@johnferraro707 25 күн бұрын
There was never a group of humans who called themselves “Byzantines”. They were Romans
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan 25 күн бұрын
True story. Bloody Germans not accepting that the romans were ended by the Turks!
@michaellynes3540
@michaellynes3540 4 күн бұрын
You make a good point. There is also never a group of Palestinians. They were Lebanese, Jordanians, Syrians and Egyptians.
@kingchrystia1417
@kingchrystia1417 Ай бұрын
It's funny, this video talks about the arab league conference and yet doesn't mention the most famous part of that summit: The Three No's. No Negotiation, No Recognition, No Peace with Israel.
@shakkedadi3452
@shakkedadi3452 Ай бұрын
love you dude. it's so important to notice those critical points that are being "pushed under the carpet" and show them
@user-jl2vr4hq4n
@user-jl2vr4hq4n 22 күн бұрын
Thx for sharing important part of history
@InuMokuba
@InuMokuba 9 күн бұрын
Exactly. I'm still looking over all of the conflict but it seems to be a constant thing people are ignoring. No negotiation , no recognition and no peace.
@rayzain7686
@rayzain7686 Ай бұрын
As a Muslim who lives in Saudi Arabia, thank you so much for teaching me the history of the Israel and Palestine conflict. Never have I seen a conflict or war with so much misinformation, thank you so much for teaching me this. Too many people have suffered, the Jews looking for a land for peace, and the Palestinians never had much control under their lives which left them too easy to be subjected. I hope peace will come to the holy lands and the innocent lives in Israel and Palestine will live in peace soon. One hopes that’ll happen in the future. God bless you John, god bless you.
@the7screw
@the7screw Ай бұрын
Taking a quick look at your channel I admit I'm impressed, not only for finishing the remake of destroy all humans deathless 100% or some of the witty humour I saw but because you seem to be someone who seeks information for the sake of growth and understanding. so please know this video omits plenty of information, and has too clear of a bias. I encourage you to continue on your path and learn more about the subject and be skeptical of everything you read. (Also don't burn yourself out on making videos, it's better to create for the joy of it than for unlimited intangible growth)
@rayzain7686
@rayzain7686 Ай бұрын
@@the7screw Thank you so much.
@8is
@8is Ай бұрын
This video is also very biased against Israel and is outright wrong here and there. It misses a lot of important context, which explains a lot of Israel's actions as well as showing the lack of care the governments of the Arab states have for Palestinians.
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
no doubt the topic is interesting,but why all the thanks,especially when this video ommits so many crucial elements . talking of "colonization" without mentioning it consisted of jews buying land from registered owners in the ottoman land registry the brits kept(and tel aviv,rehovot,petach tikva,west jerusalem outside the walls and many other cities were purchased and built through the roman era). talking of paramilitary violence without mentioning the 1886 attack on petach tikva,1929 hebron and safed massacre or 1938 tiberias massacre(against unarmed sephardi religious communities) is at least "weird". saying we mizrahi jews were "convicned" to move to israel without mentioning we were held as dhimmis till tanzimat(and in practice after as well),that till 1948 we constituted 1/6th of jews in israel,and we built the first neighbourhoods of west jerusalem and tel aviv. its leaving out all the pogroms we suffered from 1903 to 1912 morroco pogroms through 1941 farhud to 1947 aden and aleppo pogroms and the racist legislation against us in egypt and iraq which made us feld the muslim world so we wont face similar faith to the assyriacs(Simmele,seyfo),rom and pontic greek,yazidis,armenians... saying we "lost our arab heritage" when huge portion of us(including my family) didnt come from arab speaking countries or areas(assyriac/kurdistan,iran,central asia,caucasus,turkey,india diasporas).we assyriacs jews,iraqi jews and irani jews all maintained very close connections as jews regardless of the common language where we lived. not every middle eastern person is arab. finally saying "israel started receiving aid from the us" right after 1948 is not true. till 1967 we got donations from american jews and in many cases america had weapons embargo on us. no major american governmental aid till the cold war spike in the 1960s.
@rayzain7686
@rayzain7686 Ай бұрын
@@user-we4ih1tp7n Well that is an interesting argument but non-then-less I feel like arguments from the like likes of yours and ones similar to Palestinian supporters (who both of the latter provide non bias arguments, which I know is impossible with the current state of politics- ah who am I kidding politics been like this for centuries) can give out a more fleshed out views of both Israeli and Palestinian views to help maybe build up on the reasons why there is so much hate between the groups and know what kind of solution can be made to mediate each others problems while also respecting each other, which again it’s pretty impossible with the hate being reignited since Oct 7th and if the war were to end (in any way or shape of form, that’s up to your imagination for the outcome) there’ll be more hate and more bias and lies from both sides. So I appreciate the argument you have and maybe if everyone were to listen to others to prevent more of these biases from happening.
@Pixel_Earth
@Pixel_Earth Ай бұрын
Make peace not war 🇮🇱☮️🇵🇸
@18nakedcowboys69
@18nakedcowboys69 Ай бұрын
Laugh react
@notenoughmemes1847
@notenoughmemes1847 Ай бұрын
There will be no peace until Palestine has all of its land
@eidorm.7953
@eidorm.7953 Ай бұрын
Peace you make with defeated enemies
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 Ай бұрын
I support neither side. I just want this war to end and for innocents on both sides to not suffer
@notenoughmemes1847
@notenoughmemes1847 Ай бұрын
There will be no peace so long as the settler colonialist regime continues to exist
@tenkag
@tenkag 22 күн бұрын
A half-truth is even more dangerous than a lie. A lie, you can detect at some stage, but half a truth is sure to mislead you for long.
@Pangloss6413
@Pangloss6413 15 күн бұрын
Could you be more specific about what you’re talking about?
@Omri5551000
@Omri5551000 11 күн бұрын
Some of the "facts" on this video were wrong, for example that Israel led by European Jews convinced Jews from Arab countries to join, when the actual truth is that Arab countries kicked out and hurt their Jews. Also he is adding his own thoughts about Israelis destroying Gaza for example for "living space" (which is a reference for Nazi terminology). Have you looked at Gaza in Google maps? It's tiny. We don't care about it and as he said correctly, religiously and spiritually we don't care too much about this area. he is bias and not really hiding it too much.. you can talk about the tragedy of the people of Gaza how much you want, but the truth needs to be said- they are extreme Islamic jihadist population who teaches their children from day 1 that they should become a terrorist and anyone, especially a Jew, who don't follow Islam should die. They are Nazis and I'm talking about actual nazi books translated into Arabic found in Gaza at large numbers, this is an evil society and no nation would just live with that situation after that massacre they did to us and after all those years of terror attacks, there is simply no one sane leader we can make peace with unfortunately.​@@Pangloss6413
@shakkedadi3452
@shakkedadi3452 Ай бұрын
A very very important point to make is: the philistins mentioned in the video and the palestinians of today have nothing to do with each other, they are completely different groups.
@TheAssassin2299
@TheAssassin2299 Ай бұрын
One could equally say the Judeans and the Z*onists of today have nothing to do with each other. They are two different groups. In fact, the Palestinians genetically have more in common with the Levant's original residents that most Is*aelis. Is*ael refrains from doing genetic testing like 23andMe to prove otherwise for that reason.
@davidconsumerofmath
@davidconsumerofmath 29 күн бұрын
Yes, it was quite wrong for him to say that the non-Jews in Israel primarily originated from the Bronze Age people of that region. Not true at all! As rather they're more recent immigrants / colonizers.
@muhammadfarid8740
@muhammadfarid8740 29 күн бұрын
as well as the isreali kingdom that existed in 1050 bc isn't the same as israel of today in which it's populations are mainly comes from the other side of the world prior to ottoman losing ww1 and the rise of antisemitism in europe.
@thomasriggins1299
@thomasriggins1299 28 күн бұрын
Vid never said that
@shakkedadi3452
@shakkedadi3452 28 күн бұрын
But let me tell you something for sure. Modern jews have a very strong blood connection with the jews in the ancient jewish kingdom, and blood tests prove that.@@muhammadfarid8740
@TheDragonborn97
@TheDragonborn97 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, Ruddy, and i hope you had a happy Easter
@danghoangluong2942
@danghoangluong2942 Ай бұрын
I think you exaggerate American aid. Israel's weapons in 1948 war was mostly funded by Czechoslovakia (encouraged by USSR), not the USA. At that time USSR wanted to get a socialist foothold in the Middle East. Israel was quiet socialist in the 40s. During 6 Day War, US didn't provide aid to Israel. Most Israeli weapons were bought from France and Britain before. Israel's Iron Dome is Israeli design. Rafael, the company that developed the system, have factories in USA. Sure US did paid some of those systems for IDF. But at the end, it is an Israeli weapon
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan Ай бұрын
So if USA removed its financial support tomorrow, Israel would be fine?
@danghoangluong2942
@danghoangluong2942 Ай бұрын
​@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan If the US just decided to take a hands-off approach to Israel, then sure, Israel would be fine. US support for Israel were not really significant, until after the Six Day War Israel is much stronger than it was founded, and has one of the world's best domestic arms industries in the world. They are second Biggest Arms supplier of India and Vietnam. Most of the US' foreign aid to Israel is 3.8 billions military aid, which is like 16% of the aid, and Israel's defence industry already exports hundreds of millions of dollars worth of arms every year. They don't rely on foreign military aid to defend themselves. As the matter of fact, without aid, Israel's military industry might be forced to grow, which benefits their home industry in long term, but bad for US arms industry Also US "aid" to Israel isn't even all that high in comparison to what the USA spends on its other allies. The USA spends 10s of billions on putting a military presence in it's foreign allies. The main difference with Israel is that Israel is risking its own troops. The USA spends far more on their presence in South Korea, Japan, Turkey, Germany, Iraq, etc... no one mentions that. The Israeli Military Industry is also part of the reason that even if the US stops actively supporting Israel, they probably won't actually turn against Israel. If Israel were backed into the corner and the US started being an enemy, instead of an ally, the Israelis develop some of the world's most advanced military technology, and could use that as leverage to get a different foreign backer. Russia is active in the Middle East, and would kill to get their hands on Israeli military tech. China would be another option, although, given the neighbourhood, India would be an interesting option. If Russia or China or India collaborated with Israel, things would actually look bad for the United States. Also, US aid is not exactly a 1 way street. US benefit a lot by funding Israeli military. It can access to Israel's military technology and prohibit them from selling those to American opponents (like China). In general, Israel has benefitted from US assistance for a long time, but they don't need that aid to survive. Many Arabs thought they could wipe out Israel in the cradle in 1948, but they failed. If Israel could survive back then with US arms embargo (yes, US embargoed selling weapons to both sides of the conflict), it could totally survive nowadays.
@youtubesangryopinionramble1465
@youtubesangryopinionramble1465 26 күн бұрын
Lol 70% of military aid to Israel comes from USA. Next in line is Germany and UK
@amir2537_
@amir2537_ 25 күн бұрын
@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan The financial support amount to 3 B a year, Israel will survive without it
@wikiboy63
@wikiboy63 21 күн бұрын
@@JohnDRuddyMannyManyou strawmanned his argument. He made no mention of modern US support
@redactedagentdataexpunged9431
@redactedagentdataexpunged9431 Ай бұрын
I need to actually clarify the "migration" claim regarding the Jews in the middle east Whilst it is true many Jews did come into Israel after the establishment of the State in 1948, they usually found themselves in the same situation as the Palestinians during the Nakba It's estimated 900,000 to over a Million Jews were expelled from their homes in Muslim majority countries, reasons can vary including; Not able to own property, not able to work or even have a living, not able to practice their religion Most of Israel's population is mainly Middle Eastern Jews, such as those from Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan ETC. Friendly reminder; compared to the Middle East not allowing Jews to practice their religion in public or even at all, there are churches, mosques, synagogues etc, all in Israel so people of all faiths can practice their religions The Jews weren't convinced to migrate to Israel, they were FORCED to, EXPELLED, an Ethnic Cleansing if you will
@Caro-ys4kk
@Caro-ys4kk Ай бұрын
If you knew history, you wouldn’t say what you just said. When the collective West refused to take in Jewish refugees during world war 2, it was the Islamic world that gave the Je..ws refuge , especially Turkey and Palestine. When Christian Europe kicked the Jews out of Spain in the 15th century, the Muslims gave refuge to the Jews, in Morroco, Palestine, Iraq, all over the Islamic world. don’t take my word for it , look it up! Antisemitism historically was never a problem of the Islamic world where Jews lived peacefully. Let’s look at 2 Jewish sources on this , 1: Let’s see what a Jewish Historian says about this, «Jews under medieval Islam never suffered from the same general negative perception as in the Christian West. Despite regional variations and high medieval political instability, in medieval Islam multicultural environments, combined with active engagement in sciences and literature, led to something of an Islamic golden age for the Jews, at least according to most historical accounts. It has been primarily in the context of recent political developments that the once assumed positive views of Jewish life under medieval Islam have been seriously questioned.» Source : Dean Phillip Bell, Jews in the Early Modern World. New York, 2008, p. 25. 2: the Jewish magazine, the Jewish chronicles say the following: «Islam saved Jewry. This is an unpopular, discomforting claim in the modern world. But it is a historical truth…Within a century of the death of Mohammad, in 632, Muslim armies had conquered almost the whole of the world where Jews lived, from Spain eastward across North Africa and the Middle East as far as the eastern frontier of Iran and beyond. Almost all the Jews in the world were now ruled by Islam. This new situation transformed Jewish existence. Their fortunes changed in legal, demographic, social, religious, political, geographical, economic, linguistic and cultural terms - all for the better…»
@Caro-ys4kk
@Caro-ys4kk Ай бұрын
Who resettled Jews in Palestine after their long exile since Roman times ? The Muslims did ! Go look this up! The second Khalif of Islam Umaar Ibn Al-Khattab resettled Jews back in Palestine in the 7th century. Umaar brought Jews from Medina, and resettled them in Jerusalem. The Jews had been kicked out by the Romans. Those Jews have nothing to do with the modern Jews of Poland , Hungary and Russia who are not from the Middle East, they’re Europeans.
@ayhemshaban9745
@ayhemshaban9745 Ай бұрын
No they werent, actual historians and actual jews who still live in muslim countries such as in yemen, iraq, syria, Lebanon and morocco would suggest otherwise
@Caro-ys4kk
@Caro-ys4kk Ай бұрын
Israeli Historians like Avi Shlaim , himself a middle eastern jew has documented the history of middle Eastern Jews and the assertions in your comment are not historically accurate ! About middle Eastern Jews : «Invention of the Mizrahim: Israel invented the word Mizrahim to strip Arab Jews of their histories as they tried to do with Palestinians. The State of Israel was conceived at the turn of the 20th century in Eastern Europe by a group of elite European Jews who launched a movement called Zionism that sought to establish a physical nation state exclusive to Jews. It was a typical settler colonial enterprise, complete with the narrative of a divine mandate and a non-existent or savage indigenous population, central to which was the myth that Jews of the world formed a singular people, favored by God, who were returning to their singular place of origin - Palestine - after a three thousand year absence. Although it was a project conceived in Europe by Europeans and for European Jews, they lacked sufficient numbers to build a population large enough to conquer the indigenous Palestinian population. Thus, recruitment of Jews from the surrounding Arab world was a necessary inconvenience. They did so through propaganda and by creating false flag terror incidents (bombing of synagogues or Jewish centres) in order provoke an exodus of Arab Jews. A prime example of this happened in Iraq, where the oldest Jewish community in the world had lived for millennia as contributing members of Iraqi society, and who prospered, contributed to the arts and the economy, and participated in government. But these Jews were not embraced as brethren by European Zionists. Zionism was decidedly colonial, and that meant that Jews of the Arab world were seen as incomplete, barbaric, dirty, uncivilised. Za’ev Jabotinsky, one of the forefathers of Zionism said, “We Jews have nothing in common with what is called the Orient, thank God. To the extent that our uneducated masses [Arab Jews] have ancient spiritual traditions and laws that call the Orient, they must be weaned away from them, and this is in fact what we are doing in every decent school, what life itself is doing with great success. We are going in Palestine, first for our national convenience, [second] to sweep out thoroughly all traces of the Oriental soul.” A multitude of programs and protocols were implemented towards this goal. One of the most egregious was a large initiative of stealing the babies of Arab Jews and giving them to be raised by European Jews. But the larger efforts were simple propaganda campaigns that were implemented in schools, communities, and national projects. In essence, it was a project to strip ancient peoples of their identities, which was not unlike what they tried to do to Palestinians. Zionists were trying to create a new nation with a unified people. So, they could not abide allowing parts of this population to continue to identify as Iraqi, Moroccan, Persian, Tunisian, and so on, and certainly not as Arab Jews. At the same time, the racist impulses of colonialism could not abide putting these people on par with Jews of Europe. They could not simply be Jews in the new Jewish state. Thus, the word Mizrahim, from the Hebrew and Arabic words meaning “those of the East,” was popularised to lump all of these peoples of different nations into a single miscellaneous category that erased their individual ancient histories and cultures that spanned thousands of years of life and tradition, replete with countless and invaluable achievements in their respective nations. Before Israel, Jews of Iraq identified as Iraqi, of Morocco as Moroccan, of Tunisia as Tunisian, of Iran as Persian, of Syria as Syrian, of Egypt as Egyptian, and of Palestine as Palestinian. They spoke Arabic, ate the same foods as their Christian and Muslim compatriots, celebrated and partook in the same national events and traditions, lived by the same social protocols, and moved through their respective cultures as other natives did. And despite the similarities of their cultures, Tunisians were distinct from Egyptians, who were both distinct from Iraqis, who were distinct from Moroccans, etc. But Israel collapsed them all under a single identity, which was to be distinguished only from Ashkenazis, European Jews, who were higher up on the social order, and, of course, from non-Jewish Palestinians and Arabs, who were to be despised. The level of their resulting self-hate can be measured in the heightened cruelty they practise against Palestinians. However, as Zionists would learn from Palestinians, erasing the identity of others is not an easy task. Memory is stubborn, and roots will continue to tug at humans long after they’ve been uprooted. Arab Jews continued to speak Arabic at home, to dance to Arabic music, eat Arab food, and dream of once again seeing the mountains, rivers, architecture, libraries, and colours of Persia, Babylon, North Africa and the Levant. Israel has moved away slightly from early Zionism’s contempt for our part of the world. And while it remains a colonial project, bent on erasing the native Palestinian presence, their social efforts are more focused on “indigenising” themselves to the land. The obstinacy of Arab Jews in clinging to their cultural roots has provided a convenient avenue to lay claim to regional indigenous culture. So now, Arab foods (like falafel, hummus, shakshouka), traditional Arab clothing (like tatreez, galabiyas, keffiyehs), and Arab folkloric dances are all being rebranded as “Israeli,” yet another phase of colonial renaming, and they use the rebranded Arab Jews to justify their claim.» An article by Susan Abulhawa
@Caro-ys4kk
@Caro-ys4kk Ай бұрын
Let’s see what your own Je..wish sources say about this : the Je..wish magazine, the Je..wish chronicles say the following: «Islam saved Je..wry. This is an unpopular, discomforting claim in the modern world. But it is a historical truth…Within a century of the death of Mohammad, in 632, Muslim armies had conquered almost the whole of the world where Je..ws lived, from Spain eastward across North Africa and the Middle East as far as the eastern frontier of Iran and beyond. Almost all the Je..ws in the world were now ruled by Islam. This new situation transformed Je..wish existence. Their fortunes changed in legal, demographic, social, religious, political, geographical, economic, linguistic and cultural terms - all for the better…»
@someguy6369
@someguy6369 Ай бұрын
Uh oh, this won’t get controversial.
@christopherkopke7593
@christopherkopke7593 Ай бұрын
I find it funny how he uses the Gregorian calendar with BC E but it still is centered around Jesus
@Crystal_Dylan
@Crystal_Dylan Ай бұрын
You know it will. Sadly saying “mass slaughter of innocents for more living space” is controversial now
@cammyman32
@cammyman32 Ай бұрын
Hopefully no antisemitism OR islamophobia in the comments section! :-)
@onrch
@onrch Ай бұрын
​@@Crystal_Dylanthat sounds awfully similar to another regime
@michaellynes3540
@michaellynes3540 Ай бұрын
Hold my Beer
@JeremiahsFiles
@JeremiahsFiles 19 күн бұрын
Also, anti-Semitism & Islamophobia & discrimination & hate of any kind have no place on Sesame Street or any street.
@scott-soul-cough
@scott-soul-cough Ай бұрын
At 18:22 he says that the Balfour declaration recognized a future Jewish home on Arab land. When did it become “Arab” land?? It might be properly referred to as Ottoman land, but not Arab. To call it Arab is setting up a false narrative that pervades the rest of the video. What is worse is at 20:39, the word Palestinian is used to describe the Muslim anti-Zionist population. This is highly misleading and historically inaccurate. All the people who lived in “Palestine” were Palestinian. This included Christian Palestinians, Jewish Palestinians and Muslim Palestinians. The use of the term “Palestinian” to refer only to the Muslim Palestinians was a new term coined by Yassir Arafat. It has a deeply political appeal because it allowed the Palestinian Muslims to label themselves with the land at the exclusion of the Jewish Palestinians and the Christian Palestinians. Golda Meir, an early Prine Minister of Israel, called herself a Palestinian Jew. This commandeering of the word “Palestinian” was a trick of the tongue and one this presenter uses for the rest of the film to further a misleading narrative. It right away sows the seed that the “Palestinians” from which the Jews were unilaterally excluded, are associated with the land and the Jews are not. Labels matter. “Pro Life” Americans could just as easily be called “anti-Abortion rights” but they developed and use the term “pro life” to frame the narrative. Those who co-opted the term “Palestinian” did so for their own political purposes. A true historian might still use the term “Palestinian (since that term has been so successfully tied yo only the Muslim Palestinians) but must explain the use of the term and its qualifications. Failing to do this makes the reporter complicit in excluding the Jews, an intentional or unintentional act that is, at the very least, negligent. He then commits a heinous act by, at 23:42, including the deaths of Soviet Civilians and other collateral casualties of war as “Holocaust Victims.” No. These were victims of war, not the Holocaust. In no legitimate historical text, do we see civilian deaths in WWII listed as Holocaust victims. That “distinction” is reserved for the Jews, Gypsies and others who were persecuted on the basis of their identity. Other deaths of civilians are casualties of war. This also is no mistake by the author. This is precisely what antisemites do when they try to dilute the Jewish nature of the Holocaust. At 25:23, he explains that the UN proposed a partition plan but “none of this was implemented as it sparked a civil war between the Jews and Arabs….” Oh geez! It was never implemented because it was flatly rejected by the Palestinian Muslims. I guess he forgot to mention that. He then points out that the fighting happened “as the 2/3 majority Arabs would be getting less than half of the land.” Kind of true but misleading. Most of the land allocated to the Jews was the unpopulated, arid Sinai desert which had been left unpopulated and was deemed not arable by the Muslims. He soon goes on to state that the Arab states invaded Israel but what pushed the Arabs out was an Israeli victory. This is false. What pushed many Arabs out was the war started by the invasion. In fact, there exist today the news accounts from the invading Arab states whose leaders urged the Muslims to pack up and get out in advance of the invasion and that they will soon be able to return after the Jews are defeated. The historical inaccuracies are manifest throughout this video. I stopped watching at 25:44.
@romeyjondorf
@romeyjondorf 25 күн бұрын
What you have sent is 100% true ✡
@coleschoenberg9971
@coleschoenberg9971 24 күн бұрын
Much of what you just said is meaningless and historically inaccurate. We should all hope too Free Palestine from needless slaughter 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@DJChiefX197
@DJChiefX197 23 күн бұрын
Another thing to mention is the Jewish state, as laid out by the 1947 UN partition plan, would have been only 55% Jewish, whereas the Arab state would have been 99% Arab. [1] The proposed Jewish state would have only contained 20% of the arable land in all of Mandate Palestine. [2] It's hard to say that Israel would have always treated the Arabs outside of its borders so harshly, since Israeli violence against the Arabs has always been reciprocal to, sometimes massive, Arab violence. The Six Day War, inclusive- considering the Arab states' flagrantly provocative actions. 1. Report of UNSCOP: 3 September 1947: CHAPTER 4: A COMMENTARY ON PARTITION 2. Michael R. Fischbach (13 August 2013). Jewish Property Claims Against Arab Countries. Columbia University Press. p. 24. ISBN 978-0-231-51781-2
@DJChiefX197
@DJChiefX197 23 күн бұрын
I hope you don't mind, but I formatted your wall-of-text into something a little easier to read. I only added line breaks and leading spaces. The text is otherwise untouched. " At 18:22 he says that the Balfour declaration recognized a future Jewish home on Arab land. When did it become “Arab” land?? It might be properly referred to as Ottoman land, but not Arab. To call it Arab is setting up a false narrative that pervades the rest of the video. What is worse is at 20:39, the word Palestinian is used to describe the Muslim anti-Zionist population. This is highly misleading and historically inaccurate. All the people who lived in “Palestine” were Palestinian. This included Christian Palestinians, Jewish Palestinians and Muslim Palestinians. The use of the term “Palestinian” to refer only to the Muslim Palestinians was a new term coined by Yassir Arafat. It has a deeply political appeal because it allowed the Palestinian Muslims to label themselves with the land at the exclusion of the Jewish Palestinians and the Christian Palestinians. Golda Meir, an early Prine Minister of Israel, called herself a Palestinian Jew. This commandeering of the word “Palestinian” was a trick of the tongue and one this presenter uses for the rest of the film to further a misleading narrative. It right away sows the seed that the “Palestinians” from which the Jews were unilaterally excluded, are associated with the land and the Jews are not. Labels matter. “Pro Life” Americans could just as easily be called “anti-Abortion rights” but they developed and use the term “pro life” to frame the narrative. Those who co-opted the term “Palestinian” did so for their own political purposes. A true historian might still use the term “Palestinian (since that term has been so successfully tied yo only the Muslim Palestinians) but must explain the use of the term and its qualifications. Failing to do this makes the reporter complicit in excluding the Jews, an intentional or unintentional act that is, at the very least, negligent. He then commits a heinous act by, at 23:42, including the deaths of Soviet Civilians and other collateral casualties of war as “Holocaust Victims.” No. These were victims of war, not the Holocaust. In no legitimate historical text, do we see civilian deaths in WWII listed as Holocaust victims. That “distinction” is reserved for the Jews, Gypsies and others who were persecuted on the basis of their identity. Other deaths of civilians are casualties of war. This also is no mistake by the author. This is precisely what antisemites do when they try to dilute the Jewish nature of the Holocaust. At 25:23, he explains that the UN proposed a partition plan but “none of this was implemented as it sparked a civil war between the Jews and Arabs….” Oh geez! It was never implemented because it was flatly rejected by the Palestinian Muslims. I guess he forgot to mention that. He then points out that the fighting happened “as the 2/3 majority Arabs would be getting less than half of the land.” Kind of true but misleading. Most of the land allocated to the Jews was the unpopulated, arid Sinai desert which had been left unpopulated and was deemed not arable by the Muslims. He soon goes on to state that the Arab states invaded Israel but what pushed the Arabs out was an Israeli victory. This is false. What pushed many Arabs out was the war started by the invasion. In fact, there exist today the news accounts from the invading Arab states whose leaders urged the Muslims to pack up and get out in advance of the invasion and that they will soon be able to return after the Jews are defeated. The historical inaccuracies are manifest throughout this video. I stopped watching at 25:44. "
@wikiboy63
@wikiboy63 21 күн бұрын
@@coleschoenberg9971explain how they’re wrong
@Nickz666
@Nickz666 Ай бұрын
John, I can understand the trepidation you had over posting this. It's about to be your most watched video ever. I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to create and publish this video. It's important. You're exasperated reasoning at the end really resonated with me deeply. I hope someone learns this lesson.
@naomieggl
@naomieggl Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for creating this. I generally have a good grasp on the history around topics like this, but you have unearthed so much more detail that I was totally unaware of. Please keep up all your efforts in everything - one of if not the best video you have ever created. Thanks again.
@majesticfirebird2310
@majesticfirebird2310 Ай бұрын
2:47 I've just started watching this video, I had to pause it to say thanks for the mention, Mr Ruddy. I'm sure your special take on history will do this conflict justice, and thanks for making content like this free to watch. With support from New Zealand 🇳🇿.
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
its very special because "its unique" in the amount of crucial information it ommits. . talking of "colonization" without mentioning it consisted of jews buying land from registered owners in the ottoman land registry the brits kept(and tel aviv,rehovot,petach tikva,west jerusalem outside the walls and many other cities were purchased and built through the roman era). talking of paramilitary violence without mentioning the 1886 attack on petach tikva,1929 hebron and safed massacre or 1938 tiberias massacre(against unarmed sephardi religious communities) is at least "weird". saying we mizrahi jews were "convicned" to move to israel without mentioning we were held as dhimmis till tanzimat(and in practice after as well),that till 1948 we constituted 1/6th of jews in israel,and we built the first neighbourhoods of west jerusalem and tel aviv. its leaving out all the pogroms we suffered from 1903 to 1912 morroco pogroms through 1941 farhud to 1947 aden and aleppo pogroms and the racist legislation against us in egypt and iraq which made us feld the muslim world so we wont face similar faith to the assyriacs(Simmele,seyfo),rom and pontic greek,yazidis,armenians... saying we "lost our arab heritage" when huge portion of us(including my family) didnt come from arab speaking countries or areas(assyriac/kurdistan,iran,central asia,caucasus,turkey,india diasporas).we assyriacs jews,iraqi jews and irani jews all maintained very close connections as jews regardless of the common language where we lived. not every middle eastern person is arab. finally saying "israel started receiving aid from the us" right after 1948 is not true. till 1967 we got donations from american jews and in many cases america had weapons embargo on us. no major american governmental aid till the cold war spike in the 1960s.
@michaellynes3540
@michaellynes3540 Ай бұрын
12:14 “Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!”
@gilmeiri5400
@gilmeiri5400 Ай бұрын
He is clearly biased the "Palestine" side. And this is unfortunate.
@gilmeiri5400
@gilmeiri5400 Ай бұрын
​@@user-we4ih1tp7nfinally! an educated person. Please spread your knowledge more so videos like this won't happen again.
@jordandino417
@jordandino417 Ай бұрын
What ever happened to “Love thy neighbor”? :(
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan Ай бұрын
Sadly, some people like to leave “neighbour” open to interpretation…
@paulamarsh1
@paulamarsh1 Ай бұрын
Doesn't exist in Arab mentality, you are either Muslim or kafar...
@brysonfugarino861
@brysonfugarino861 Ай бұрын
Israel has tried that numerous times with two state solutions but the palestinians think everything is their and act like spoiled brats when they don't get what their way.
@Rita1984
@Rita1984 Ай бұрын
Lol not when it comes to loving jews 😂
@FaketriangleFake0001
@FaketriangleFake0001 Ай бұрын
How can we love an invader?
@vauiarex4877
@vauiarex4877 Ай бұрын
Syria Palestina meant that Judea was annexed to the province of Syria. Later a Palestina province was carved out, but "Syria Palestina" was not a separate province next to Syria like the map suggests, that would have been silly
@nersharific813
@nersharific813 Ай бұрын
27:00 Might be important to mention that many were expelled from where they lived for centuries…
@lexaron
@lexaron Ай бұрын
for like the 15th time
@wajihtaouk1989
@wajihtaouk1989 Ай бұрын
Biased video
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
@@lexaron ah,no . jews and christians werent banished from the muslim world in general till tanzimat. after tanzimat any minority that demanded equal rights to muslims(and even muslims who are non arabs or quiet minorities) were persecuted and killed in huge numbers by the islamists or pan arabs. we got off easily compared to the yazidis and assyriacs.
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
@@lexaron ah ,no .arabs barely have banished christians and jews prior to tanzimat. after tanzimat when ethnic and religious minorities started to demand equal right-thats when the pan arab and islamist carnage started. we came off easily compared to the assyriacs,yazidis and kurds.
@maxtomlinson8134
@maxtomlinson8134 Ай бұрын
Facts
@adriacortesabad8055
@adriacortesabad8055 Ай бұрын
Could you make a video about the Spanish Civil War?
@StephenLuke
@StephenLuke Ай бұрын
Hear! Hear! 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸
@parri0923
@parri0923 16 күн бұрын
I was truly hoping for a fellow Irishman's unbiased history lesson. Didn't get that here, mate.
@chuckecheese5251
@chuckecheese5251 Ай бұрын
@22:11 you're missing the whole part where Germany was joined by the Ottoman empire which was decolonized by the British empire with the agreement England would divide the Arabian peninsula for freeing it from the Ottomans and under the same agreement wrote the boundaries for virtually Every current country in the region including Jordan Lebanon Saudi Arabia and even Egypt coming into existence after being freed from the Ottoman Empire which again had allied itself from Germany during WW1 (pre Nazi)
@occam7382
@occam7382 Ай бұрын
And the Arab rebels were promised they'd get a unified state consisting of all the Ottomans' territories from Syria to Yemen, and instead they were carved up and turned into British and French colonies. They weren't "freed" from anything.
@libertatemadvocatus1797
@libertatemadvocatus1797 24 күн бұрын
@@occam7382 But you're also leaving out the ethnic and religious differences which made a single state an impossibility.
@occam7382
@occam7382 24 күн бұрын
@@libertatemadvocatus1797, whether or not that's true (which I doubt), the fact is the Hashemites were promised a single state, and the Entente betrayed that promise in nearly every way imaginable.
@spaghettiking7312
@spaghettiking7312 22 күн бұрын
I'm sure this will be a completely unbiased comment section.
@terrancephillips5798
@terrancephillips5798 14 күн бұрын
I’m not really terribly concerned about going back to 1200 BC, I’m more concerned with the 20 years since Israel abandoned Gaza and the Palestinians have had a state which they turned into what people call an open air prison. Israel has tried over and over and over again to make peace with the Palestinians and the Palestinians just can never ever bring themselves to take the deal. I don’t care about the Palestinians anymore, they need to surrender and they need to made to make peace, or they need to be shoved into Jordan and Egypt and never let back in. Their entire national identity is tied up in oppression. Except they’re not oppressed anymore, they have had sovereignty well something close to sovereignty for nearly 20 years. The rest of the sovereignty that they don’t have, they don’t have because they can’t be trusted with it. They need to surrender utterly.
@JoshAlec
@JoshAlec 27 күн бұрын
its important to state that The ancient and Biblical Philistines no longer exist today.
@Pstein300
@Pstein300 20 күн бұрын
Destiny's historical reading of the situation is much better than this. Israel wasn't a colonial state
@striker7625
@striker7625 17 күн бұрын
The names and purposes of the early colonization instruments read as follows: "The Jewish Colonial Trust" (1898), the "Colonization Commission" (1898), the "Palestine Land Development Company.”
@striker7625
@striker7625 17 күн бұрын
Mr. Cecil Rhodes: For some months mutual friends have been trying on my behalf to arrange a meeting between us. At the moment, however, I am so inordinately busy that it would hardly be possible for me to come to London, unless I knew in advance that you took a serious interest in the matter. This, to be sure, would be a sufficiently strong reason to travel, for I need you. In fact, all things considered, you are the only man who can help me now. Of course, I am not concealing from myself the fact that you are not likely to do so. The probability is perhaps one in a million, if this can be expressed in figures at all. But it is a big-some say, too big-thing. To me it does not seem too big for Cecil Rhodes. This sounds like flattery; however, it does not reside in the words, but in the offer. If you participate, then you are the man. If you don't, then I have simply made a mis take. You are being invited to help make history. That cannot frighten you, nor will you laugh at it. It is not in your accustomed line; it doesn't involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor, not Eng- lishmen, but Jews. But had this been on your path, you would have done it yourself by now. How, then, do I happen to turn to you, since this is an out-of-the- way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something *Colonial* . [11] The Complete Diaries Of *Theodor* *Herzl* , Volume 3, p. 1194.
@striker7625
@striker7625 17 күн бұрын
"It is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting Palestine from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority. My readers have a general idea of the history of colonisation in other countries. I suggest they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonisation being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. [...] This is equally true of the Arabs. They feel at least the same instinctive, jealous love of Palestine as the old Aztecs felt for ancient Mexico, and the Sioux for their rolling prairies. [...] Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonised. That is what the Arabs of Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of Palestine the Land of Israel." -[12] The Iron Wall, Vladimir Jabotinsky (leader of Zionism)
@larryalvares1369
@larryalvares1369 Ай бұрын
This video has been age-restricted/taken down due to violating KZfaq guidelines
@chrisv2107
@chrisv2107 Ай бұрын
I believe i have witnessed some blackouts that paused the video randomly
@kelvinhow1965
@kelvinhow1965 Ай бұрын
Bro these people blacklist this just to cover up the truth over their continued hate they are so dumbass
@michaellynes3540
@michaellynes3540 Ай бұрын
This is stupid. We the American people have a right to hear about this.
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
​@@michaellynes3540 sure you do. you even have thr right to hear it without all the facts the video creator ommitted . talking of "colonization" without mentioning it consisted of jews buying land from registered owners in the ottoman land registry the brits kept(and tel aviv,rehovot,petach tikva,west jerusalem outside the walls and many other cities were purchased and built through the roman era). talking of paramilitary violence without mentioning the 1886 attack on petach tikva,1929 hebron and safed massacre or 1938 tiberias massacre(against unarmed sephardi religious communities) is at least "weird". saying we mizrahi jews were "convicned" to move to israel without mentioning we were held as dhimmis till tanzimat(and in practice after as well),that till 1948 we constituted 1/6th of jews in israel,and we built the first neighbourhoods of west jerusalem and tel aviv. its leaving out all the pogroms we suffered from 1903 to 1912 morroco pogroms through 1941 farhud to 1947 aden and aleppo pogroms and the racist legislation against us in egypt and iraq which made us feld the muslim world so we wont face similar faith to the assyriacs(Simmele,seyfo),rom and pontic greek,yazidis,armenians... saying we "lost our arab heritage" when huge portion of us(including my family) didnt come from arab speaking countries or areas(assyriac/kurdistan,iran,central asia,caucasus,turkey,india diasporas).we assyriacs jews,iraqi jews and irani jews all maintained very close connections as jews regardless of the common language where we lived. not every middle eastern person is arab. finally saying "israel started receiving aid from the us" right after 1948 is not true. till 1967 we got donations from american jews and in many cases america had weapons embargo on us. no major american governmental aid till the cold war spike in the 1960s.
@DeVolksrepubliek
@DeVolksrepubliek Ай бұрын
@@michaellynes3540PREACH
@masterofraw1175
@masterofraw1175 Ай бұрын
23:43 why did you show Ukraine there out of all the places, not France, Hungry or Romania, which all kept much greater degrees of autonomy compared to Ukraine? I thought this wouldn’t be “Anti imperialist” contrarianism but alas I am wrong
@historysuit9418
@historysuit9418 Ай бұрын
5:47 Just a quick correction, the Roman did call this place "Provincia Iudaea", the "province of Judea" for a while, it was only after the great Bar Kokhba Jewish revolt in 135 that as part of the punishment the official name changed to "Provincia Palaestina”.
@imjoeim
@imjoeim 23 күн бұрын
this video is full of mistakes so don't even bother
@hemafalcon629
@hemafalcon629 21 күн бұрын
Herodotus mentioned region Palestine in his book 500 BCE and ancient Egyptians named this region "paleset" 1500 BCE
@ultimateoriginalgod
@ultimateoriginalgod 20 күн бұрын
​@@imjoeimwhich is the one that has you most annoyed?
@ultimateoriginalgod
@ultimateoriginalgod 20 күн бұрын
This is a talking point. The name of the region was still Palestine under the jurisdiction of the Province of Iudea.
@historysuit9418
@historysuit9418 20 күн бұрын
And where can that be seen?
@BeeugsHistory
@BeeugsHistory Ай бұрын
Thank you John. It feels sometimes that there are some people who are not learning from the mistakes of the past, and are continuing to let dehumanisation take hold of their fears. We should all stand together, not tear each other apart. I seems to be the only way we can bring an end to this horror.
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
its hard to learn from the past when videos like that ommit crucial details of the story or make gross misrepresentations . talking of "colonization" without mentioning it consisted of jews buying land from registered owners in the ottoman land registry the brits kept(and tel aviv,rehovot,petach tikva,west jerusalem outside the walls and many other cities were purchased and built through the roman era). talking of paramilitary violence without mentioning the 1886 attack on petach tikva,1929 hebron and safed massacre or 1938 tiberias massacre(against unarmed sephardi religious communities) is at least "weird". saying we mizrahi jews were "convicned" to move to israel without mentioning we were held as dhimmis till tanzimat(and in practice after as well),that till 1948 we constituted 1/6th of jews in israel,and we built the first neighbourhoods of west jerusalem and tel aviv. its leaving out all the pogroms we suffered from 1903 to 1912 morroco pogroms through 1941 farhud to 1947 aden and aleppo pogroms and the racist legislation against us in egypt and iraq which made us feld the muslim world so we wont face similar faith to the assyriacs(Simmele,seyfo),rom and pontic greek,yazidis,armenians... saying we "lost our arab heritage" when huge portion of us(including my family) didnt come from arab speaking countries or areas(assyriac/kurdistan,iran,central asia,caucasus,turkey,india diasporas).we assyriacs jews,iraqi jews and irani jews all maintained very close connections as jews regardless of the common language where we lived. not every middle eastern person is arab. finally saying "israel started receiving aid from the us" right after 1948 is not true. till 1967 we got donations from american jews and in many cases america had weapons embargo on us. no major american governmental aid till the cold war spike in the 1960s.
@benjaminfleming1512
@benjaminfleming1512 Ай бұрын
I noticed there is no mention of the leader of the Arabs in Palestine; Amin Al Husseini, who was an actual Nazi who was prosecuted by the Allies post-war for collaborating with Hitler, notwithstanding conveniently leaving that part out; the creator also left out the extensive persecution of Jews in arab nations before the founding of the state of Israel (eg. The Farhud, lack of property rights and pogroms in North Africa); the fact the Arabs rejected every single 2 state solution offered to them including the peel Commission and the UN resolution, and they seem to have completely fabricated the United states arming Israel in the 1940s when in reality whilst they recognized Israel straight away they held an arms embargo against both sides for the duration of the conflict. It is important to note the British actually supported the Arab armies far more in the 1948 war with British officers directing some of the more elite Jordanian army units so I'm not sure where the idea of Britain as their "overlord" comes from, furthermore, they reneged on the Balfour declaration by appointing to Husseini as the leader of Jerusalem AGAIN conveniently left out here. Not telling the whole truth is tantamount to lying when studying history. This man should really stick to drawing Pokemon tutorials
@tomgachagan1347
@tomgachagan1347 Ай бұрын
why would someone accept a deal that would displace millions of their people and give them the worse quality land whilst the colonisers/settlers would receive the rich and fertile lands?
@benjaminfleming1512
@benjaminfleming1512 Ай бұрын
@@tomgachagan1347 sorry but you're misinformed. The UN proposal for the foundation of the state of Israel did not call for the displacement of the Arabs living in mandatory Palestine nor did the Israeli Declaration of Independence, such guarantees are included in the declaration itself: " we call upon the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to return to the ways of peace and play their part in the development of the State, with full and equal citizenship and due representation in its bodies and institution" - from the Israeli declaration of independence written in 1948 by David Ben Gurion. Also, the land marked for a Jewish state in the partition plan consisted mostly of the Negev desert, which was largely uninhabited and unirrigated contrary to your aspersion of the lands being "rich and fertile", the Arab land contained all of the larger urban areas of the land as well as extensive arrable land. hope this helps
@tomgachagan1347
@tomgachagan1347 Ай бұрын
@@benjaminfleming1512 israeli settlers stole land of displaced palestinians after the war and they still cannot return. israeli settlers colonised the land
@itamarplayz3153
@itamarplayz3153 Ай бұрын
Thank you Benjamin, I was looking for a comment addressing his mistakes.
@jachimikedenis
@jachimikedenis Ай бұрын
@@benjaminfleming1512 It was quite reasonable for the palestnians to reject the un partition plan. Nobody would ever give up any percentage of their home to new immigrants. If it was the other way aroud im sure the jews would have done the same.
@crazedunionboy3383
@crazedunionboy3383 Ай бұрын
Bless you John D. Ruddy. Never before have I seen anyone dive so deep into a topic so important to the modern layout of our world.
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
not so deep. talking of "colonization" without mentioning it consisted of jews buying land from registered owners in the ottoman land registry the brits kept(and tel aviv,rehovot,petach tikva,west jerusalem outside the walls and many other cities were purchased and built through the roman era). talking of paramilitary violence without mentioning the 1886 attack on petach tikva,1929 hebron and safed massacre or 1938 tiberias massacre(against unarmed sephardi religious communities) is at least "weird". saying we mizrahi jews were "convicned" to move to israel without mentioning we were held as dhimmis till tanzimat(and in practice after as well),that till 1948 we constituted 1/6th of jews in israel,and we built the first neighbourhoods of west jerusalem and tel aviv. its leaving out all the pogroms we suffered from 1903 to 1912 morroco pogroms through 1941 farhud to 1947 aden and aleppo pogroms and the racist legislation against us in egypt and iraq which made us feld the muslim world so we wont face similar faith to the assyriacs(Simmele,seyfo),rom and pontic greek,yazidis,armenians... saying we "lost our arab heritage" when huge portion of us(including my family) didnt come from arab speaking countries or areas(assyriac/kurdistan,iran,central asia,caucasus,turkey,india diasporas).we assyriacs jews,iraqi jews and irani jews all maintained very close connections as jews regardless of the common language where we lived. not every middle eastern person is arab. finally saying "israel started receiving aid from the us" right after 1948 is not true. till 1967 we got donations from american jews and in many cases america had weapons embargo on us. no major american governmental aid till the cold war spike in the 1960s.
@enjoyingend1939
@enjoyingend1939 Ай бұрын
And yet he only presents about half the picture, mostly the pro-palestinian side. One thing i found particularly funny is at 27:00 where he says that israel convinced the jews living in the arab states to move to israel, while in reality it was ethnic cleansing by those states.
@nemui1fan447
@nemui1fan447 Ай бұрын
​@@enjoyingend1939I am happy google exists
@markoherceg3707
@markoherceg3707 Ай бұрын
What those jews and others around the world have gone through is what Palestinians now are going through. You nitpick a part of history but neglect to acknowledge that israel became what it fought against in the first place
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
@@markoherceg3707 so jews before the holocaust committed atrocities against germans like 1929 hebron and safed massacre and 1938 massacre and held the germans as second class citizens like mizrahi jews were held as dhimmis(And before you say jews have taken lands from them-yes lands they have bought from registered owners in ottoman land registry which the brits kept. petach tikva,tel aviv and rishon letzion were even built during ottoman era)? the jews of germany supported racial or religious supremacy against germany(whne most of them were secular) like hamas (islamists) or PLO(pan arab) support?
@shaneboardwell1060
@shaneboardwell1060 Ай бұрын
Sorry Manny but the US did not arm or fund Israel at all until after the six day war. In fact there was a strict arms embargo on Israel during the 1948 war. This should be corrected.
@queenofredania6076
@queenofredania6076 9 күн бұрын
so this is a pro palestine propaganda?....I was hoping for a neutral video...one who could openly say...both sides are crazy becuase it is....mr pro palestine also should have seen it from the start as you are wearing their flag dispite disclaimers
@kr33tz
@kr33tz Ай бұрын
I agree with the general message of this video, in that violence against anyone is never justified and a peaceful solution is always to be sought. But there are sadly so many (minor, but all too more important, regarding this topic) historical mistakes and missing of nuance, that it makes me question if they were just accidents or deliberate. All in all, really not a good video, even though you got your heart in the right place.
@hudsondunn8385
@hudsondunn8385 17 күн бұрын
I wish this comment had more likes
@tornadojoe17
@tornadojoe17 Ай бұрын
The Spanish Inquisition was not to convert Muslims and Jews to Christianity. It was to inquire if those who claimed to convert to Christianity were truly converted or if they were heretics.(It only affected Christians, not practicing Muslims or Jews or of any other faith.) This is a big mistake on the videos behalf.
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan Ай бұрын
Fair enough, it was an oversimplification
@eldadmarbach2288
@eldadmarbach2288 10 күн бұрын
You introduced the Palestinian narrative after 1920! And not the truth! You presented one side at a time, in the period before the establishment of the state you did not mention what was happening in Israel (which included a civil war between the Arabs and Jews). And the fact that the Jews did agree to the partition and the Arabs did not. In addition, you did not mention that in World War II there was an agreement between the Arabs and the British that the British would give the Arabs a large Arab state (the size and territory of the Muslim Empire - one of them), and in World War II most of the Arabs in Israel decided to go over to the side of the Netzaim (only about 1000 offered the Jews help in case the Netzaim arrived ), including that their leader met with Hitler. You also forgot to mention that during all these years there were still terrorist attacks (even before the rockets), and you did it as if the Jews only wanted to kill the Palestinians (who have no connection to Canaan - they only came to Israel during the Islamic conquests), since the establishment of the state, you have followed the Palestinian narrative, the shooting of The Israeli missiles and bombs are designed to destroy the Hamas rocket array, which is still firing rockets (which means it is still active despite all the damage), all military deployments over the years were in response to terrorist attacks. In addition to calling Gaza an open air prison is a lie, they have a crossing with Egypt through which they can leave Gaza, (and they do it from time to time). In addition, in times of peace there are many workers who come from the Palestinian territories to earn money in Israel, only when there are many terrorist attacks there or during war the quota is reduced (there is a limit because they also occasionally carry out terrorist attacks and murder their boss). Another thing is that when Jordan controlled the West Bank the Palestinians asked for independence! It didn't go so well for them. The First Lebanon War, it was in cooperation with the "South Lebanon Army" against Hizbullah who conquered South Lebanon and is still the one who rules there. The Six Day War started because of intelligence information (their armies were sitting on the border) that the Arab armies intended to start another war, and as a result Israel decided instead of waiting to launch a pre-emptive attack and destroy the Egyptian Air Force (the strongest in the region). And that you claim that Israel is committing genocide is like saying that Hamas wants peace (which is not true). The claim that the Israeli attacks do not help to rescue the abductees is not related, the attacks were intended, along with the ground attack, to destroy Hamas, which is holding the hostages, and thus had the idea that they would succeed in rescuing them (and indeed they succeeded in rescuing some in a military operation) but Hamas simply kills them, and therefore there is an argument that it does not help and owe a deal. It is also important to note that Hamas used the hospitals and its fighters have a so-called stomach, the government there (Hamas) is the one who has to say, my people are suffering, I have to surrender and return the kidnapped, but they only make the conditions more difficult and not really flexible, they hope that opinions like the one you presented Here they will make Israel surrender to Hamas! And not the other way around! (For them, the IDF withdrawing is a victory)! Israel is not trying to kill the Palestinians (the Palestinian authorities often count Hamas also as civilian casualties or lie in the numbers, they recently changed the numbers to half of the previous ones!), but this is an area built up by fighting against Hamas who is fighting a guerilla war with civilian clothes, in a dense, difficult area To prevent harm to civilians completely, there were also two-sided shooting on the side of the IDF, do you think we wanted that?!, Hamas actively uses populated places and prevents civilians from evacuating to create more civilian casualties. Until the current war there was a military procedure called "tap on the roof" - that is, before attacking a building with bombs (90-100% of the time between wars) they drop a bomb that makes a lot of noise but does no damage to warn the residents that they need to evacuate, and then after a sufficient amount of time they attack the the structure. Only because of what Hamas did it was decided to be more aggressive and cancel this procedure. What you wrote here (after the establishment of Israel) is misleading, and calling it history is the summary of the Palestinians as they want it and not the truth.
@sammylegaspi2214
@sammylegaspi2214 Ай бұрын
The funny part is the Palestinians have the Judah gene that lived there thousands of years ago, they never left they had to convert
@chuckecheese5251
@chuckecheese5251 Ай бұрын
Okay here @32:00 you simply skipped the part where Lebanon had become a base for the PLO (after being removed by the Jordanians who had claimed this territory through war)which in its charter stated publicly it's goal was to claim the newly created concept of Palestine from the river to the Sea the river being the Jordan River meaning to claim back the territory conquered by Jordan and to qoute "from the river to the sea and tofind every Jew hiding behind a rock tree or in a cave and Mohammed get the Jew hiding behind me" to give the full and accurate direct quoted declaration
@dionysus913
@dionysus913 Ай бұрын
But invasion was still probably not the best option. The U.S invasion of Afghanistan was under similar pretenses, but it still led to widespread chaos and civilian death. And as said within the video, the PLO’s radical and antisemitic edge would mellow out, seeking peace rather than conquest. Not every small detail can be addressed all in one video, unfortunately.
@adamsvorad4354
@adamsvorad4354 Ай бұрын
​@@dionysus913PLO didn t ever wanted any peace! They ended 1st intifada and signed that damned agreements only because they lost all their sponsors and allies at once. USSR and eastern block after the fall of communism in 1989 and, Saddam s Iraq and also arab gulf states after the PLO had to support invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Together with Kaddafi s Libya or Bashir s Sudan. Arafat never had to stop support and organize terror onto Israel citizens. He created so called ,,martyr fund" for the famillies of sucide boombers or for prisoners im West Bank. Mostly from ,,Al Aqsa brigade of martyrs".
@BEEFYP.I.M.P.
@BEEFYP.I.M.P. Ай бұрын
@@dionysus913mellowed out so much they never condemned Oct 7th ok buddy
@dionysus913
@dionysus913 Ай бұрын
@@BEEFYP.I.M.P.Think: What exactly would have provoked Hamas (who, again, are not representative of the entire Palestinian population or Palestinian political environment) to commit an atrocity on the level of October 7th? It’s not a defense, but when you take into account the cruelties committed against Palestinians by the Israeli Government, it becomes harder and harder to say that October 7th was completely without cause or without precedent. Hell, the Israeli Government was aware that October 7th was going to happen, but dismissed the reports. Nobody is entirely without blame here, but Israelis definitely deserve blame more than others considering they are attempting a literal genocide right now.
@jedicake3177
@jedicake3177 21 күн бұрын
@@dionysus913 Most of Hamas militants were orphans they just hated Israel so much so its Israel fault for killing their parents
@Tab1300
@Tab1300 Ай бұрын
The burden of being a history KZfaqr when history is being loudly made. Good on you for making this and there are people trying hard to supress this history, glad to see you trying to keep it known.
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
aint telling half the story like this video did supression of history ? . talking of "colonization" without mentioning it consisted of jews buying land from registered owners in the ottoman land registry the brits kept(and tel aviv,rehovot,petach tikva,west jerusalem outside the walls and many other cities were purchased and built through the roman era). talking of paramilitary violence without mentioning the 1886 attack on petach tikva,1929 hebron and safed massacre or 1938 tiberias massacre(against unarmed sephardi religious communities) is at least "weird". saying we mizrahi jews were "convicned" to move to israel without mentioning we were held as dhimmis till tanzimat(and in practice after as well),that till 1948 we constituted 1/6th of jews in israel,and we built the first neighbourhoods of west jerusalem and tel aviv. its leaving out all the pogroms we suffered from 1903 to 1912 morroco pogroms through 1941 farhud to 1947 aden and aleppo pogroms and the racist legislation against us in egypt and iraq which made us feld the muslim world so we wont face similar faith to the assyriacs(Simmele,seyfo),rom and pontic greek,yazidis,armenians... saying we "lost our arab heritage" when huge portion of us(including my family) didnt come from arab speaking countries or areas(assyriac/kurdistan,iran,central asia,caucasus,turkey,india diasporas).we assyriacs jews,iraqi jews and irani jews all maintained very close connections as jews regardless of the common language where we lived. not every middle eastern person is arab. finally saying "israel started receiving aid from the us" right after 1948 is not true. till 1967 we got donations from american jews and in many cases america had weapons embargo on us. no major american governmental aid till the cold war spike in the 1960s.
@OdensRaven
@OdensRaven Ай бұрын
Imagine thinking this is history content. Dude omitted so much history from the last 80 years because it didn't fit his narrative and tried to twist facts and thought people weren't gonna notice.
@jedicake3177
@jedicake3177 21 күн бұрын
@@OdensRaven wdym there is no narrative from the other side lol there is but you just too focus on the Palestinian side because how you had the hatred to the Palestinian people lol
@OfficialRodrigoLeon
@OfficialRodrigoLeon Ай бұрын
Just like how you said “the world does not want this war” since Russia invaded Ukraine, we should say the same for both Israel and Palestine. The whole world MUST understand how we should end this conflict peacefully and to possibly bring up a long term solution to end this decades or centuries long conflict.
@occam7382
@occam7382 Ай бұрын
The conflict is only about 100 years old.
@patrickparker7430
@patrickparker7430 Ай бұрын
The problem is that a lot of people are calling for the death of isreal. They cheer for it. Its sickening.
@gotgrainslikerice5311
@gotgrainslikerice5311 Ай бұрын
​@@patrickparker7430 They went there and did everything that was done to them. They don't deserve it. But I get why someone would say that.
@patrickparker7430
@patrickparker7430 Ай бұрын
@gotgrainslikerice5311 not all chose to be there. Many came because they got kicked out surrounding Muslim countries.
@gotgrainslikerice5311
@gotgrainslikerice5311 Ай бұрын
@patrickparker7430 that doesn't change the fact they instantly started committing such acts on the locals when given the slightest bit of power. Its a fact they are an occupation. It's makes perfect sense why someone would want death for their occupiers.
@JeroenDoes
@JeroenDoes Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, it was very informative. I have a question, given the amount of hardliners on both side, can you see a solution to the conflict that is humane?
@baronbrummbar8691
@baronbrummbar8691 18 күн бұрын
well ther almost was a solution in the early 2000s then the arab population sayed fuck negotiation put those who screamed lets go to war the loadest in charge (the hamas) and as the the Israeli government didn´t do anything he was viewed as a traitor for letting terrorist take power he was murdered
@maxsavage9325
@maxsavage9325 Ай бұрын
I thank you for making this video ❤
@arburch763
@arburch763 12 күн бұрын
This is painfully biased and cherry-picked... I'm not an Israeli apologist or someone who thinks they are free from criticism, but your characterization of the conflict leaves so much out that it effectively absolves the Palestinians of any blame. No mention of the pogroms committed by the Palestinians in the 1920s and 1930s, no mention of Palestinian nationalist roots having ties with the Nazis, no mention of the "3 No's", no mention of what lead to/instigated the 1967 War (it wasn't because of blocking the Suez Canal), no mention of the wave of suicide bombing that prompted the blockade of Gaza, no mention of the Palestinians REPEATEDLY (several times since the 1930s) being offered their own state and THEM rejecting it... I could probably go on, but this is just off the top of my head.
@mouselet
@mouselet Ай бұрын
I always like the Manny Man videos. That being said, there have been so many atrocities on both sides and neither is wholly in the right.
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
i hope you like those videos as historical fiction . disinformation and ommission. first,huge poortion of mizrahi jews aint even from the arab world(my mom family are from the assyriac jewish diaspora). assyria/kurdistan,india,caucasus,central asia,turkey,iran.and we "lost our arab heritage"? not every middle eastern is arab. he doesnt mention the fact the jewish "colonialism" in israel was jews buying land from the registered owner(as per the ottoman land registry) and many cities like tel aviv and west jerusalem being built before 1917. he doesnt mention that mizrahi jews wanted to move before 1948 and that by 1948 they constituted sixth of the population (and tel aviv first neighbourhoods were created by sephardi and yemenite jews). we would have moved there first if we weren't held as dhimmis till 19th century. he doesnt mention the 1910 shiraz blood libel,1903-1912 morrocan + 1921 nabi mosa +1929 hebron and safed +1938 tiberias +1941 baghdad farhud + 1945 tripoli and egypt's + 1947 eden and aleppo pogroms. he doesnt mention the racist legislation in egypt and baghdad. he doesnt mention the mass massacres against ethnic and religious minorities by pan arabs and islamists since tanzimat. "we were just invited to come to israel"(yeah and we left all our wealth behind giving up on our former citizenships to live in tents in maabarot). he says israel has got aid and weapons from the us after 1948 . no it didnt. we got aid from the american jewish community while the american gov put embargo on us,no major aid till 1967.
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan Ай бұрын
Of course.
@owenfautley
@owenfautley 22 күн бұрын
​@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan But you were incredibly biased and misleading in this especially after the 1900's. Those Jews across the Muslim world did not go to Israel because they were encouraged to by Israel, they were persecuted and kicked out. Plus you only ever paint the Palestinian side as the victims when they also committed their fair share of violence. The un plan was not put into work because it was rejected by the Palestinians because they wanted the whole area and for Israel not to exist. Also the use of the term Palestinian for the Muslims only was adopted in 1967. Also during that invasion Jews who had been living in the west bank and Gaza were kicked out by the Jordanian invading force. As for apartheid if they want their own state then Palestinians would not have full rights as those who are native to israel like how I cannot vote in French elections that is how boards and countries work. Also 20% of Israel are Arab Muslims who are also a part of the IDF and have many high ranking positions in the judiciary system, army and government, as for South Africa there is still apartheid and targeted genocide against white farmers now even propagated by politicians there. Hamas are the ones taking all the money and food and starving there people because they want to win over the people online through propaganda, I still believe that children of year 7 and under should have been and still should be evacuated but the education system there is like the Hitler youth. Also many deaths are unintended casualties, the IDF do not maliciously target aid workers or most journalists (some journalists were in kahoots with hamas). Overall it seems like you think Israel should not exist. There will only be peace when Hamas is gone, a proper government that will recognise israel as a country is put in place and Gaza rebuilt by Israel.
@user-ff2nk1po8g
@user-ff2nk1po8g 19 күн бұрын
​@JohnDRuddyMannyMan Do you accept Israel's existence?
@Kole_D
@Kole_D Ай бұрын
All very well said. May peace come soon 🙏🏻
@Jebbtube
@Jebbtube Ай бұрын
No way someone's not gonna get angry over something related to this topic. Good luck JDR!
@aiiscool6118
@aiiscool6118 23 күн бұрын
this guy doesn't know what he's talking about lol
@Aviv704
@Aviv704 Ай бұрын
Saying that Israel just decided to invade Lebanon without mentioning that there was rocket attacks from The invasion followed a series of attacks by PLO from Lebanon prior to the invasion is just spreading lies. Also, you "forgot" to mention that PLO actions were one of the key factors in the eruption of the Lebanese Civil War
@OdensRaven
@OdensRaven Ай бұрын
Dude conveniently left out alot.
@airplaneperson8807
@airplaneperson8807 Ай бұрын
Yeah lots of missing context which is sooo dangerous when talking about this….
@gooberV2
@gooberV2 22 күн бұрын
its because those in charge know we are easier to control divided, if we stood together we could topple the unjust regimes that run our lives, but if they keep us radicalized and angry at each other, they can keep us controlled, and that is what is happening
@my_master512
@my_master512 24 күн бұрын
This videos off to a bad start 💯 firstly he clearly shows his political bodies when he says Israel invaded Gaza for the second time 🤨 since he considers the IDF going after its hostages then invading I won't even try to touch bases on what he considers the first time 🤔 But let's just set that aside and pay attention to where he claims the name Palestine came from 😬 the real historical legacy of the name Palestine is what the Romans named the land after attempting to ethnically cleanse the Jewish population that live there at the time the name Palestine was a direct flight in the face of the Jewish people that remain 💯 All of this is in the first 5 minutes are you serious what kind of historian is this 🤯
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Ай бұрын
29:20 "The UN called for" the UN is a political organization, not a legal organization. They did not even mention Palestinians at all in that resolution. The wording of that resolution was sent back 3 times before it was finally approved.
@fredrikjulsenandersen
@fredrikjulsenandersen 21 күн бұрын
Thank you for this very good historical summary of this conflict. I commend you for the effort. However, I have one criticism about your speech at the end of the video, and if anyone reads this and know more about this, then perhaps you can help me. The “Free Palestine” Movement wishes to achieve the complete removal of the state of Israel, yet you also seem to be in favour of (or at least open to) a two state solution. I would suggest this is quite contradictory. It seems to be very ironic that you say that “we keep falling for mistakes and being fed lies” and then you go ahead and support the aggression and support of terror, by showing support to this movement. I suppose this is not your intention, but I think we should be careful about acts like these. I am referring to around 50:00 in this video. Personally, I recognise the state of Israel and I do not believe that the UK was in the wrong to be in possession of the territory after the events of WW1. In my view, if you are going to call this colonisation, then it would be like calling the management of Germany after WW2, colonisation. And in this particular conflict, I also see the occupation of Gaza by Israel in itself as a self-defence act, and we must not forget that they are dealing with multiple terror groups, or at least one. Finally, I will add that I also condemn any unnecessary killing of innocent civilians on either side of this conflict, and I condemn Israel for the settlements in the West Bank and Gaza (Even though Israel have later pulled out of Gaza in terms of these settlements). Israel has seemingly been careless and brutal about the civilians in Gaza since October, and I think this should have consequences for them as well. I suggest we do not pick any sides in this conflict, but work for peace for all.
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan 21 күн бұрын
A very measured response. Thank you. I’ll reply properly later hopefully :)
@fredrikjulsenandersen
@fredrikjulsenandersen 21 күн бұрын
@@JohnDRuddyMannyMan That sounds good. I'm looking forwards to learn more 👍
@KingForever-zu5jl
@KingForever-zu5jl 16 күн бұрын
Zahir Muhsein was a Palestinian leader of the pro-Syria As-Sa'iqa Ba'athist faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization between 1971 and 1979. In an interview with Trouw Magazine, 31. March 1977 he stated....."The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new tool to continue the fight against Israel and for Arab unity....!!!
@itamarplayz3153
@itamarplayz3153 Ай бұрын
14:55 , The region of Palestine referenced in 1890 report includes, The provinces of Jerusalem, Nablus, Acre, Beirut (part of it including the city), and Damascus (part of it including the city). Thus the comparison with what is known today as Palestine is of little use. What it does tell us, is that even though the area referenced to shrinks (British mandate of Palestine only included Israel and Jordan), the Muslim population grows at what seems to be normal rates for the area. Since the people here did not have wayy more children than anywhere else it points to migration within the area. Specifically migration into the west side of the Jordanian river, is because of the economic prosperity the region has witnessed, mainly because of the Jewish settlements. Before you call me racist, it is proven that there have been migrations from the surrounding areas to the mandate. It is also proven that the Jewish settlements, thanks to the highly educated workers and skilled labourers have become the most advanced and prosperous cities in the region thus attracting the immigrants. It were also these technological advancements that allowed the population explosion you see demographically.
@Biggydiggly
@Biggydiggly Ай бұрын
I like how he goes into detail about Jewish persecution and expulsion in Europe, but glosses over Jewish persecution and expulsion from Arabic empires and Arab states in the 1960s, saying that Israel "recommended" they move.
@filipinordabest
@filipinordabest Ай бұрын
I found that weird too, but later on he brings up that many antisemites are zionists, because it validates some final solution.
@Raptor810Blue
@Raptor810Blue Ай бұрын
Arabs can do no wrong. Everyone knows that Islamic empires were peaceful and beautiful places with no ethnic cleansing or religious oppression.
@repuIsive
@repuIsive Ай бұрын
no, islam is a religion of peace and they would never do anything like genocide
@whailingwhale6352
@whailingwhale6352 Ай бұрын
I 100% bet you guys are Westeners.
@Biggydiggly
@Biggydiggly Ай бұрын
@@whailingwhale6352 I'm hispanic, lol. Also, I like you, didn't even deny it.
@the7screw
@the7screw Ай бұрын
27:01 I'm a descendant of Iraqi Jews and so I can tell you without a doubt it wasn't Israeli encouragement that convinced my grandparents to flee Iraq. It was the governing powers within Iraq persecuting jews with most of their life long friends and neighbors turning on them as well (partially as a result of pan-arabism which I noticed was completely neglected to be mentioned in the video). I disagree with the statement that Israel is a colonial state, but even if you view it's foundation as such you'd have to agree it had become a refuge for persecuted Jews worldwide.
@Camo54553
@Camo54553 Ай бұрын
Mossad agents dressed up as Arabs and Muslims and carried out and heinous crimes against Jews in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Assyria, "Israel" and even their allies UK/USA. The term Islamic terrorism was created by those attack. The reasons being for cheap Jewish labour for the ruling class that is Ashkenazi Jews and the false urgency to build a Jewish Utopia. There are official evidences as well as many whistle blower accounts that lead to arrests and resignations.
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
exactly. so much disinformation and ommission. first,huge poortion of mizrahi jews aint even from the arab world(my mom's family are from the assyriac jewish diaspora). assyria/kurdistan,india,caucasus,central asia,turkey,iran.and we "lost our arab heritage"? not every middle eastern is arab. he doesnt mention the fact the jewish "colonialism" in israel was jews buying land from the registered owner(as per the ottoman land registry) and many cities like tel aviv and west jerusalem being built before 1917. he doesnt mention that mizrahi jews wanted to move before 1948 and that by 1948 they constituted sixth of the population (and tel aviv first neighbourhoods were created by sephardi and yemenite jews). we would have moved there first if we weren't held as dhimmis till 19th century. he doesnt mention the 1910 shiraz blood libel,1903-1912 morrocan + 1921 nabi mosa +1929 hebron and safed +1938 tiberias +1941 baghdad farhud + 1945 tripoli and egypt's + 1947 eden and aleppo pogroms. he doesnt mention the racist legislation in egypt and baghdad. he doesnt mention the mass massacres against ethnic and religious minorities by pan arabs and islamists since tanzimat. "we were just invited to come to israel"(yeah and we left all our wealth behind giving up on our former citizenships to live in tents in maabarot). he says israel has got aid and weapons from the us after 1948 . no it didnt. we got aid from the american jewish community while the american gov put embargo on us,no major aid till 1967.
@grayishcolors
@grayishcolors Ай бұрын
Ok but that’s literally the definition of colonial state. It was colonized…. I understand from your perspective arguing that to be a good thing, but to argue against actual reality seems a bit silly.
@user-we4ih1tp7n
@user-we4ih1tp7n Ай бұрын
@@grayishcolors good or not good. muslims(And few non muslims) from all over the ottoman empire moved here, not all were even arabs....circassians of kafr kama and rihania,bosniaks of keisaria,turkmen of abu zurayk and hirbat turkmen,afro arabs from sudan,egyptians from masrawa(biggest muslim clan in israel) and al masri clans,north africans in kafr sabt,bedouins speaking hijazi arabic to this day...they didnt pay anything,just took the land by force or were given it by the ottomans for their services.all while jews were held as dhimmis and barred from moving to their ancestors lands. how does jews purchasing land from the registered owners(in the ottoman land registry which continued into british era) is more of colonialism or less moral? now a jew buying land in the middle east is "colonialism"?
@the7screw
@the7screw Ай бұрын
@@grayishcolors no, that is the definition of a refuge: _a condition of being safe or sheltered from pursuit, danger, or trouble._ The Google definition to colonies is: _a country or area under the full or partial political control of another country, typically a distant one, and occupied by settlers from that country._ however the difference here being that Israel is its own country not governed by a foreign rule. (Unless you count US interventionalism and then you might as well count the rest of the world including Europe as colonies.) that also brings into question plenty of Arabs of originated from other countries and migrated to mandatory Palestine.(Not that there is anything wrong with that, but most Muslims living in the North are more culturally aligned with Syria, Muslims within Gaza are more culturally aligned with Egypt, and Muslims living in the West Bank or Judea and Samaria as some prefer had Jordanian citizenship before the agreements between the PLO and Israel, after which they had those revoked) And of course finally most Jews would argue the entirety of their culture was born and based around the country, if we skim over the Bible we know of the early existence of at the very least two Jewish kingdoms in the area, not to mention DNA tests also confirm a middle eastern origin in Jewish DNA. Personally I don't much care for the last explanation, I just want to live in a country where my well-being and the well-being of my family are truly guaranteed to be protected and not persecuted by the government. And the rest of the world hadn't really given me a true guarantee.
@katherineellis8951
@katherineellis8951 Ай бұрын
This video was so beautifully done!
@frugaljimmy71
@frugaljimmy71 Ай бұрын
John - tough topic, with no way to present it so that wouldn't upset someone. I think you did a very admirable job. Thank you.
@kuunda8363
@kuunda8363 29 күн бұрын
My only criticism is that it feels like the jewish people being expelled from israel/ palestine .. how many times? Was glossed over with a mention of it once for like 5 seconds. - But this seems like a great video.
@kazazim8396
@kazazim8396 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. You're a good man❤
@ezigrosinger6096
@ezigrosinger6096 13 күн бұрын
This is so ahistorical they weren’t expelled the Arab nations told them to leave till the Arab run the Jews into the ocean and then they will return
@hawar_jesser
@hawar_jesser Ай бұрын
I love your videos John, but just 4 corrections/comments: Kibbutz is a hebrew word, not yiddish Most zionists based their movement off of nationalist movements like Irish nationalism not colonial ones Jews were already the majority in Jerusalem by the time that Zionism ramped up Egypt and Jordan annexed the Gaza strip and West bank respectively out of their own volition And most Mizrahi Jews came to Israel due to their own beliefs or persecution in Arab and muslim countries All of these come from a source of bias, which I understand, im biased to. But hopefully this helps balance out an “unbiased” video
@sandypike2431
@sandypike2431 6 күн бұрын
Clear bias as you having nothing good to say when it comes to Israel but paint them as the aggressor throughout. To be fair the Israelis today have been constantly attacked by surrounding states even though they have the smallest 'homeland' in the region. The nakbah and intafadahs were violent uprising against people living in the region that also had an ancient history in the land and had been driven out by various empires in ancient times. These people, the Jews, were returned and continue to return to a small area as proscribed by the league of nations which became the UN in 1948 and have not been allowed to live in peace with others in the region ever since. The 'palestinians' are Arab pawns being used by surrounding superpowers to remove Israel from the region, they are not welcome in these superpower nations but confined to being 'refugees' who belong in the small region described as from 'the river to the sea', which includes Israel. The fences, walls around Gaza and between parts of the West Bank and Israel were easily breached by 'palestinians' when they chose to enter Israel on October 7th and massacre their neighbour's. This was not a legitimate military incursion but a surprise incursion perpetrated by 'palestinians'. Israel's response is a military one mounted to get back its hostages and to neutralize the threat of further attacks from Gazan 'palestinians' who have no intention to live at peace with Israel in the region. I listened to your whole 'history' to the very end and was disappointed to discover that you did not present a clear unbiased perspective of the events but had your own anti-colonial agenda underpinning your presentation of events. The Arab nations were violent colonisers across much of the world (and still are) as well and have not abandoned their quest to rule over others. Unless you subscribe to their belief system and way of life you have no place among them which you only mentioned in regard to early world history - they seek the same domination today and continue to persecute those who do not submit to their dictates. You as a European, Irish man would only be embraced by them if you subscribed to their rule over you with all that that entails. For me it is clearly a 'NO'. I support the innocent party in this middle east war, I too would resist their domination if they came to subjugate my country.
@ruairiodonohoe2533
@ruairiodonohoe2533 Ай бұрын
This is gonna be a fun comments section. Get your popcorn here
@dicomark
@dicomark 12 күн бұрын
Best illustration for the real situation can be seen clearly even in this, palestinian biased video. In 25:10 author claims that arab majority got only 1/3 of the land and in 25:45 we see how all other surrounding territories are already arab countries populated by arabs and how jews agreed on getting a super-tiny area that immidiately attacked by arabs. I truly hope that without Hamas, some day palestinians will stop playing "or us or they" game and leave a chance to a peaceful coexistence.
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan 12 күн бұрын
But suggesting all Arabs are just the exact same is disingenuous in itself. That’d be like kicking Polish people off their land and saying “yea, sure you can go to Russia or Ukraine or somewhere! You’re all Slavs!”
@dicomark
@dicomark 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for providing a great example of national uniqueness. As someone who is half Russian (Slavic) and half Jewish (Semitic), I am neither Polish nor Arab. However, due to my love of history, I can name many events that happened to the Polish people since medieval times. Unfortunately, it is impossible to identify any historical events specific to the modern Palestinians (not Arabs) before the partition plan was discussed. Perhaps I am wrong, and you can easily provide at least one historical event unique to the Palestinian arabs who lived within the current borders of Palestinian land that distinguished them from their neighbors, such as those in present-day Jordan? My advice for you is to start creating a video on this issue. Conduct your own research, and you will see by yourself that there wasn't any ethnic difference among Middle Eastern Arabs.
@mannygutierrez7654
@mannygutierrez7654 Ай бұрын
I've studied the Levant and Near East for many years, this video is a fantastic compilation and history of the Palestine/Israel story Thanks for posting man ❤
@asbjrnc7877
@asbjrnc7877 Ай бұрын
Just wanted to say, that I was recommended this. So keep up the good work John, your message is spreading ❤️🙏
@historicalminds6812
@historicalminds6812 Ай бұрын
You're very brave, John! Thank you for the video!
@thehaus6998
@thehaus6998 14 күн бұрын
26:48 this is by far the stupidest thing I've seen, they weren't "Convinced" they were kicked out, expelled, forced out, robbed, and often times persecuated by those arab nations in the name of palestine and they were forced to leave to israel
@directorofnolearning
@directorofnolearning Ай бұрын
Manny Man poking the hornet's nest with a very large stick.
@carterstroud5403
@carterstroud5403 Ай бұрын
Israelis and the Palestinians have realized that god sold them a time share
@BasedAidencertified
@BasedAidencertified Ай бұрын
and they say real estate is easy
@Rita1984
@Rita1984 Ай бұрын
It doesnt have to be this way. If Palestinians hadnt taken on h!tler’s dreams everyone can live on the land together. The palestinians despise the jews and only want them in tiny numbers to more easily control them and to not worry about any uprisings from an oppressed dhimmi group. Its pure racism on the palestinian’s part. Jews have lived in many lands only for their oppressors to mistreat them and to make up excuses like eating baby blood or being r@pists. Horrible blood libels. And palestinians still spew these lies to this day with the intent of wanting to dehumanize and genoc!de the jews as h!tler had wanted to do. They are impossible to live with, and they should fully know why the jews want to live there and that jews are ultimately the aboriginal people. Its absolutely abhorrent.
@wajihtaouk1989
@wajihtaouk1989 Ай бұрын
40:16 the irony lol😂
@michaellynes3540
@michaellynes3540 Ай бұрын
15:58 That is messed up; former black slaves from America enslaving black tribes in Liberia.🤦‍♂️
@Adventurepee
@Adventurepee 12 күн бұрын
This is the first time I've come across this channel, so I'm not sure if this is intended or not, but this video is definitely not an unbiased recounting of history, and in fact seems to have a very strong bias actually. You do admit that not all the history is shared here, but it is also very alarming exactly which bits of history are cherrypicked here.
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan 12 күн бұрын
I find it alarming when people will argue over semantics and technicalities while a genocide is going on.
@Adventurepee
@Adventurepee 12 күн бұрын
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan technicalities and semantics are all that matters when recounting history. History is not how you feel or what your opinion is. It is meant to be an unbiased and neutral telling of the facts. And it is very telling that you, as a self-proclaimed historian, are using the term genocide for the current conflict, when the definition of genocide simply does not line up with Israeli actions in Gaza. If you want to be a political commentator, at least be honest with what you are doing, don't present yourself as a historian.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Ай бұрын
*_"Israel made its capital Jerusalem against UN Resolutions"_* UN resolutions are political opinions, Not laws. And, Jerusalem was not anyone else's land but Israels under the International Law of Uti Possidetis Juris. Israel's borders under Uti Possidetis Juris are the former borders of the Mandate of Palestine. It was Egypt and Jordan that took Israeli land (Gaza and the West Bank). According to the "Palestinians" themselves the West Bank and Gaza were NOT Palestinian sovereign land. This from the 1964 PLO Charter; *_"This Organization does not exercise any regional sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or the Himmah Area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political and financial fields."_*
@fives5555arc
@fives5555arc Ай бұрын
Although UN resolutions are not laws, they hold immense diplomatic and moral authority. So even though one could definitely reject the UN’s statements, it comes at the cost of being alienated and also causing a delegitimization of International Cooperation. On Uti Possidetis Juris. The principle does indeed support the preservation of existing territorial boundaries upon state succession. However, the application of this principle to the specific case of Jerusalem's status and Israel's borders is complex and subject to interpretation, with many in the international community not recognizing that status for Jerusalem and also the reason why many in the international community do not recognize Israeli claims that the entirety of the lands of the former Mandate of Palestine belongs to them. However, this is subject to anyone’s specific interpretation of international law and also where they politically lean. The PLO did say they didn’t have any regional sovereignty over Gaza and West Bank as of 1964, that is true. However, this is because of the current political reality and historical context of the time which was, as you’ve shown in the quote, that the West Bank and Gaza were under the administration and control of Jordan and Egypt respectively. This is did not mean that the PLO relinquished the rest of its claim to the lands of the Mandate of Palestine under Israel. The possible historical reason for this is that the PLO didn’t want to alienate itself from its Arab allies (and perhaps wanted to conjoin its movement with the broader Arab Nationalist movement) and also wanted to be able to achieve a sovereign state within internationally recognized borders. Then, finally to note is that the PLO's stance evolved over time, particularly after the 1967 Six-Day War when Israel gained control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Subsequent to this conflict, the PLO expanded its territorial claims to encompass these territories and asserted its sovereignty over them in pursuit of Palestinian statehood.
@dionysus913
@dionysus913 Ай бұрын
Even if it wasn’t technically illegal, it’s still definitely not a good action. Not every legal action is moral, and not every illegal action is immoral. You’re confusing legality with morality here.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 Ай бұрын
​@@fives5555arcLook up Dr. Jacques Gauthier who wrote his doctorate on the status of Jerusalem. There are several videos and articles on him and his work. Please search, *_"Whose Land?"_*_ by UKLFI Charitable Trust_
@michaellynes3540
@michaellynes3540 24 күн бұрын
Israel didn’t start these wars, but they finish them.
@striker7625
@striker7625 17 күн бұрын
Opposite Israel started all of the wars 1948 war was started by Israel committing the nakba 1967 War was started by Israel attacking Egyptian air force 1973 War was started by Israel occupying what was internationally recognized Egyptian and Syrian territory 1983 Lebanon war was invasion 2006 Lebanon war was an invasion
@michaellynes3540
@michaellynes3540 17 күн бұрын
@@striker7625 where’s your evidence?
@striker7625
@striker7625 17 күн бұрын
@@michaellynes3540 which of these event you want me to provide evidence for exactly ?? They are all globally accepted facts
@chershire109
@chershire109 16 күн бұрын
@@striker7625 1948 Arab Israeli War happened because of the Arab Leaders not Israel 1967 War the immediate trigger was Egypt’s mobilization of forces in the Sinai, closure of the Gulf of Aqaba to Israeli shipping, and Jordan’s alliance with Egypt and Palestinian querrila groups in other countries increaed attacks on Israel. 1973 War The war aimed to persuade Israel to negotiate more favorable terms for the Arab countries and Israel said they would give the Golen Height for peace but Syria refused. 1983 War was not carried by Israel but by Ismaic Jihadist organization with PLO withdrawal after the war 2006 War was by Hezbollah after israel withdraw in 2000
@AlbaHistory
@AlbaHistory Күн бұрын
Question where does it end? When you say Israel will finish it what does that mean.
@udembachuka3492
@udembachuka3492 15 күн бұрын
Rudy I wanna say u tried Ur best to simplify the worlds most complicated conflict in an hour and in animated form which isn't easy to be honest but I feel u left out some of the aggressive actions taken by some of the palestinians and Arabs such as the riots the suicide bombings that derailed peace initiatives and the expulsion of Jews from Arab and Muslim countries such as Egypt, I also felt u failed to mention the Arabs rejecting the peace initiatives before 1948 but none the less its just an hour and theres a limit to wat u can mention for a conflict of this nature so i commend u and will definitely be subscribing to ur channel
@Myaw-mrow
@Myaw-mrow Ай бұрын
skip intro to the actual video: 3:46
@Wildwildmint
@Wildwildmint Ай бұрын
Wrong history. Picking and choosing and dismissing very important information? And you're deleting comments too! Shameful!
@MultiBlackman13
@MultiBlackman13 Ай бұрын
That video length is...deserved!
@ehannasir8464
@ehannasir8464 Ай бұрын
and yet it still misses alot of important things, but it's pretty good compared to all the other videos which all suck (from both sides) as they are so empty or so biased it feels like ur watching propaganda (because you are)
@sunnybear178
@sunnybear178 Ай бұрын
it's pretty obvious this is the whole old jeans theory - if you keep adding new patches to it, is it the same pair of jeans? The Kingdom of Israel did exist and was taken through conquest however by the point the State of Israel came, the areas had been far removed from those times. It only got worse because of the colonial powers seeing it as an opportunity to move in on the region; using everyone and their issues against the other. I genuinely don't see how the correct outcome can even happen like it's truly a tragedy.
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan Ай бұрын
Can the Ship of Theseus still be called such if it has slowly but surely been replaced by a pair of jeans? Seriously though, I agree with you :/
@RedLogicYT
@RedLogicYT Ай бұрын
You can tell this is non biased because he doesnt once mention the first or second intifada, calls israel a colony, and blames israel for every instance of violence. So unbiased!
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan
@JohnDRuddyMannyMan Ай бұрын
Did you watch the video…?
@gm-le6fy
@gm-le6fy Ай бұрын
The reason why Jews migrated to Israel was because they had been persecuted for centuries and just got out of the holocaust. The arab nations also persecuted them, so they all believed they had no choice. Would you stay in a home where you are forever a persecuted minority? What would make the settlers think that another holocaust was going to happen in Europe after they just barely escaped Nazi persecution with their lives? It's easy to say "Why can't we all just get along" when you aren't at the reviving over 2000 years worth of persecution.
@mustafae934
@mustafae934 Ай бұрын
So if the Jews took a chunk of a European country can we still defend them? Also was America anti-semetic, if not why didn’t they take them in.
@jtt8237
@jtt8237 Ай бұрын
Past persecution doesn’t mean you get to walk into someone else’s home, rape their wife and murder them and then live in their house. Before the founding of Israel, Jews came peacefully for the most part, buying land. Then the colonial powers created Israel, giving them tons of land that already had Arabs living on it, so the Israelis raped and pillaged until they had successfully forced most of the Arabs out of their homes.
@de_plum123
@de_plum123 18 күн бұрын
Also because it’s kinda where the Jews come from. It’s said in the video about the kingdom of Judea or the king of Jews. About 3000-4000 years ago. And they’ve been living their ALONGSIDE the Palestinians for thousands of years continuously.
@martinnemeth6909
@martinnemeth6909 13 күн бұрын
Palestinians shouldn't pay for 2000 years of European anti-semitism.
@hehning8678
@hehning8678 20 күн бұрын
Why does this only have 80k views? Are people afraid of good history and knowledge? Tbh theese idiots rioting on the streets dont know any history and create false information and facts. I still cant understand why no one understand and learn from history. We should work toghether to create a better world for everyone.
@zachisawesome7434
@zachisawesome7434 Ай бұрын
Well done, JDR! Your videos never cease to educate and amaze me. Even on the most sensitive of topics. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@StephenLuke
@StephenLuke Ай бұрын
Very well done! Thank you so much for telling us and animating about the Israel-Palestine conflict!
@hehning8678
@hehning8678 20 күн бұрын
Didnt Isreal agree to all the different UN two state solutions? Because the Palestinians attacked them so Isreal defended themselfs. Didnt Palestinian/Arab leaders tell their people to leave Isreal to fight another day. Isnt that the reason for many people leaving Isreal in 1948 / the Nakba?
@capncake8837
@capncake8837 4 күн бұрын
This video is quite heavily biased in favor of the Palestinians. It’s a shame, since he’s usually pretty good at explaining history.
@hehning8678
@hehning8678 4 күн бұрын
@@capncake8837 Yeah i figured, i mean im neutral in this conflict because there is no real winner here. Even if you are agianst how Isreal have fared their war in Gaza you should still provide valid facts and history and still try to find a solution for a better future. Theese people saying isreal should be ereased just create more conflict...
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