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Issues I've had while Tracking my FRS (And how to solve them)

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Oren Holzman

Oren Holzman

Күн бұрын

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@OfficeLinebacker
@OfficeLinebacker 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lesson learned here is if you're losing oil (whether due to blowby or whatever), check your oil often and refill as necessary. Carrying a quart with you everywhere and checking every time you fill up the gas is more than enough.
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 2 жыл бұрын
Until the problem gets so bad that you blow the motor on the session following a refill. Ask me how I know.
@digiovanniracing
@digiovanniracing 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna start showing people this video when they egg me about keeping my engine stock
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@dutchberry
@dutchberry Жыл бұрын
take a look at DK Tsuchiya's gt86. He keeps it NA. He says the engine is prone to turbo or SC so that it breaks. I'd rather take advice from DK than from some guys online. DK is Drift king. he is a legend. don't listen to other people but DK
@k2r79
@k2r79 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely staying NA after watching this 😇 Great content 👏
@stevebodalenko5286
@stevebodalenko5286 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative without padding or BS nonsense OR weird video effects or angles..
@xiaohusun4196
@xiaohusun4196 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience, I regret not seeing your video earlier lol. I owned my frs about 2 years and I learned a lot driving skills throughout tracking it. At first I was just running the track with stock power, and gradually, I started to upgrade the suspension.. tires.. ect. Everything went smoothly until I decided to add more horsepower to that frs. The SC kit gave me a sweet time but also ruined my trans and motor. After about 7000 track miles my engine blew like yours. I think a lot. Thinking that I have spent so much time and money on the car, I decided to build new motor and swap it. Now my car is still in the shop and I'm still struggling with how to solve the transmission problem... Ah if I could see your video earlier, I would probably buy a C6 or other more reliable car for track car ;D
@TrackMonkey327
@TrackMonkey327 3 жыл бұрын
Good info, especially regarding fuel starvation with less than 1/2 tank gas.
@iWARDOG
@iWARDOG 3 жыл бұрын
I have 3 transmissions sitting here hahah. Damn I had all these issues :( Wish this video was up a few years ago.
@anthonyingramingram6388
@anthonyingramingram6388 4 жыл бұрын
Wow now I really understand the whole situation thanks
@thelastsignature
@thelastsignature Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much!
@rd2die1
@rd2die1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. I was looking into buying a supercharged BRZ, but now I see that it would probably not last long if I tracked it..
@SR-fx5sm
@SR-fx5sm 10 ай бұрын
Couldn't you have setup the catch tank/ air oil separator to drain the oil back into the engine (valve cover) ?
@sierraramblers7600
@sierraramblers7600 3 жыл бұрын
And just like that the prospect of an FRS trackcar died. Amazing video man, very informative.
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 3 жыл бұрын
The FRS is a fantastic platform but if you’re going to build a track version, find a rolling shell and K24 swap it.
@cduncan5690
@cduncan5690 3 жыл бұрын
Great information and thanks for sharing your experience. However, this engine and transmission was only designed to withstand naturally aspirated loads. People who want to track turbo setups should get the appropriate rods, pistons, rings, cams, etc. Sorry to see you lose your engine but it is nice to know what the engines factory limits are.
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 3 жыл бұрын
Even in a stock form I had transmission issues and in stock form, when driven hard, the oil gets to concerning temperatures. I agree the car wasn’t build for boost but there’s still some design flaws to keep in mind.
@cduncan5690
@cduncan5690 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrenHolzman I hear you. If Toyota had put this engine in its rightful place behind the driver and mate it to the STI 6 speed a lot of these little problems would have been alleviated. However, they would not have sold as many of those cars because people still get excited about having two useless seats behind them instead of an engine.
@shadowchrome_
@shadowchrome_ 2 жыл бұрын
so do you think upgrades to the oil cooling and some form of reinforcements to the gearbox will solve that?
@shadowchrome_
@shadowchrome_ 2 жыл бұрын
what i said may not be a feasible but im just curious if its practically possible
@omer9572
@omer9572 Жыл бұрын
אורן רכב מדהים אחי
@aplong1911
@aplong1911 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and information, thank you for sharing!👍🏼👍🏼
@iknow4291
@iknow4291 Жыл бұрын
Mi e is supercharged for last 5 years and still with 1st transmission from when it came out of factory atm at 300whp and no problem with the transmision, do you have solid mounts for transmision cuz if u have it thats your cause for gping thru them
@meatloafmike
@meatloafmike 9 ай бұрын
Is stock tranny w upgraded clutch good enough for 240-250whp w 200tq kicking in early around 2-2500rpm? Looking at getting a brz and throwing the sprinted 210 supercharger on it. Carb legal tune. *NOTE: this will be my daily and I don’t drive like a moron in public.
@boomin7713
@boomin7713 3 жыл бұрын
i have that same problem with my 2017 brz 1:57 :/
@BulletproofPitbulls
@BulletproofPitbulls 2 жыл бұрын
Hey boss this video is amazing, I own Huracan and want to build a track car and now I'm second guessing the frs. What would you recommend? Appreciate your response
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 2 жыл бұрын
If you have enough money to afford a huracan then there’s a ton of options for you to consider. On the upper end there’s mclarens, lower down you can do the new C8 corvette or a C7 Z06/ZR1. If you’re trying to build a JDM car then consider the new Supra, the S2000 or a K24/LS swapped FRS/BRZ/86.
@BulletproofPitbulls
@BulletproofPitbulls 2 жыл бұрын
@@OrenHolzmanlol I want to stay in a 20k 30k budget I don't want to go crazy but yes the huracan was a dream.
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 2 жыл бұрын
20k or 30k for the car or for the complete build
@BulletproofPitbulls
@BulletproofPitbulls 2 жыл бұрын
@@OrenHolzman possibly complete build. To be honest we have tracks here in Toronto Canada that are not that long but you can still use the power on the straights. I just don't want to get a car dump 10k in and then be like I need more power. I think the frs supercharged is sufficient because apparently the handling is amazing. Cars right now are expensive as hell. A guy I know blew his cayman s and a replacement motor is like 25k that's just ridiculous to me so I'm just asking because you are actually doing it. This is not a daily driver for me its something I can learn limits in case I put it in a wall🤣appreciate your time
@BulletproofPitbulls
@BulletproofPitbulls 2 жыл бұрын
@@OrenHolzman I haven't seen a reliable k24 swap but if i know that works and car 10k/suspension brakes tires 10k/ k24 swap later 10k thats total 30k ish
@matthewwain9958
@matthewwain9958 9 ай бұрын
What's the weight difference between the stock trans and the cd09?
@SomethingRandomChannel
@SomethingRandomChannel Жыл бұрын
Really good video man, don’t get this detail too often
@maebusgaming7913
@maebusgaming7913 Жыл бұрын
IF you wanna stay boxer and got the cash. Go for Crawford or HKS built boxer motor brother.
@killroy2993
@killroy2993 2 жыл бұрын
Could run a surge tank for the fuel
@fistandilus1
@fistandilus1 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious since you are sponsored by Verus, why did you not use the Verus Rear Cam Cover Block in conjunction with your Verus AoS? That setup should have prevented you having to do an atmospheric setup that got oil all over the underside of your car AND prevented the oil starvation issue. Am I missing something about the situation. I was thinking about using just the setup that I mentioned when I go FI but I am wondering if there is an issue there.
@48763405
@48763405 4 жыл бұрын
Why not IAG AOS? They have the system that will dump the blow by oil back into the oil pan through the oil filler cap.
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 4 жыл бұрын
As far as I am aware, IAG does not make an AOS for the FRS. I highly considered trying to mount the IAG AOS and testing it out but then my motor blew. However, the blow-by was not a result of the catch can/AOS, it was caused by the motor itself.
@rollinthunder8671
@rollinthunder8671 3 жыл бұрын
Legit I'm just doing a OFT flash for my engine that's it!
@claysavage8047
@claysavage8047 Жыл бұрын
So it's been a year since you commented this... Did you actually have the self control to only tune the car and nothing else? Lol.
@rollinthunder8671
@rollinthunder8671 Жыл бұрын
@@claysavage8047 yes lol that and a greddy catback
@s4060
@s4060 3 жыл бұрын
Blow by was from your motor mate. It was ok it’s way out, I would guess rings.
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it blew about a year ago because it lost too much oil on the track.
@ronaldz333
@ronaldz333 4 жыл бұрын
There are a lot more problems om our cars. Coilpack failure, weak axles/rear end, wheel bearing failure, burning coolant, going through brakes like crazy compared to similar weight cars...
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 4 жыл бұрын
I FORGOT TO MENTION THE COIL PACKS! Yeah all of these are true. I just haven’t experienced them myself. Even with forced induction my stock axles were fine and I have an upgraded diff. I didn’t burn coolant and I actually had good life with my brake pads. That being said, all of what you said are common problems.
@1atinlove
@1atinlove 4 жыл бұрын
How is the new trans holding up? Would you have gone any other routes(i.e. gear sets)?Do you think the Verus AOS is no good?
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 4 жыл бұрын
The new trans is holding up well. You could get strengthened gears / synchros and if you have the know-how, install them yourself for a cheaper solution. Because transmissions are daunting to me, I am happy with my decision to go CD09. As far as the Verus AOS, I think it is a good option but my engine and it’s blow by issue was the problem. The Verus AOS is great for a motor without the blow by issues.
@1atinlove
@1atinlove 4 жыл бұрын
@@OrenHolzman thanks bro, im was looking at PAR gears and the CD09 trans. I was just wondering how much more reliable. Or if i should go with the gears, and Verus synchros. Still have some time to get it all figured out. I am going to get the AOS from VERUS. Thanks bro
@1atinlove
@1atinlove 4 жыл бұрын
@@OrenHolzman i forgot to ask could we run our own clutch or do we have to use a nissan clutch with the CD009 trans?
@zacharystucker77
@zacharystucker77 3 жыл бұрын
Just started having blowby issues. GTX2867r tuned on e85 making 390 at 14 psi. Street car but gets the dick beat off it. Sick of the burning oil smell and smoke at this point. Know of anyone using the accu tank with success? I’m not sure I’d want to be returning the blowby back into the motor with all the ethanol. Seems like a sure fire way to wash it out. Even with regular interval oil changes.
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re referring to an accusump, that’s a bandaid and not a solution. You’ll still have the same blow by, the accusump would just replace it with pressurized oil so you have less of a chance of oil starvation.
@raylo0408
@raylo0408 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I missed this in the video, did you do anything with oil cooler and oil baffle?
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 2 жыл бұрын
Had an oil cooler. No baffle in the oil pan.
@recklesslyarrogant7242
@recklesslyarrogant7242 2 жыл бұрын
How to reduce drag
@RR-cg2rq
@RR-cg2rq 2 жыл бұрын
How much whp did your FRS have
@zombiejuice4542
@zombiejuice4542 4 жыл бұрын
I’m installing a jdl kit with a g25-550 turbo soon and I hope I don’t get blow by.
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely let me know. I’m curious. I’d recommend a catch can/AOS if you don’t already have one.
@zombiejuice4542
@zombiejuice4542 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrenHolzman man, I just stumbled upon your KZfaq channel again and guess what? I spun a rod bearing with the kit. Car had oil as I always watched it, but due to either overload or low oil pressure (I don’t have a gauge for that). The main rod bearing just spun and knock knock ): I’m currently trying to build my engine and that’s how I found your channel again. Subscribed now*
@rookietoprobuildz
@rookietoprobuildz 4 жыл бұрын
Taking notes 📝 I want to go back to the track so bad. More of a risk now that I'm boosted though
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely but as long as you have an oil cooler, air oil seperator/catch can, and a way to keep track of oil temp, oil pressure and boost, you should be fine!
@skycapt01
@skycapt01 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the verus AOS have the option to drain back to your cam plate cover? Seems like that's a nice neutral spot to drain to without much travel.
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 3 жыл бұрын
I had drain back kit. I think it filled so much that it overflowed the drain back.
@reemeruxd
@reemeruxd 3 жыл бұрын
@@OrenHolzman that’s crazy. I have the verus AOS on my turbo brz vented to atmosphere with an STI pcv valve. I don’t drive my car that hard but there’s hardly ever that much blow by when i drain it. it’d be the equivalent of a small sip of water after 2 months of daily driving. I also have a very short vent hose and sits right on top of the trans but i don’t see it spilling oil onto the trans. I assumed that’s just for fumes and the aos is what’s supposed to catch the liquid blow by. I definitely can smells the oil fumes when i do a pull but maybe i should check if i don’t have something routed properly and there’s a bunch of blow by in the motor. I just followed Ian Barton’s guide on the JDL owners FB group
@prodnbxo
@prodnbxo Жыл бұрын
@@reemeruxd How did you set your AOS up. Pcv valve in the block or in the AOS. did you have the pcv valve installed and vta? We’re you boosted? thanks. setting one up now.
@davidmathewsoniii1776
@davidmathewsoniii1776 3 жыл бұрын
Has anybody here built a trans for the frs? Is there any aftermarket support for upgraded part for the transmission?
@reemeruxd
@reemeruxd 3 жыл бұрын
Verus sells carbon synchros for the trans which is their biggest weakness. I had to get a new trans almost immediately when i bought my car stock for the same reason, grinding into 4th gear at high rpm. Even still with a brand new trans now that i’m boosted, a couple money shifts into 2nd and now 2nd is a bit difficult to get into when the trans is cold
@gregadjuntas9876
@gregadjuntas9876 4 жыл бұрын
What trunk did you get? Is it marsh? What wing you getting??
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 4 жыл бұрын
Marsh trunk and Voltex Type 7.5 wing
@alexanderdavidtarras1156
@alexanderdavidtarras1156 4 жыл бұрын
So.... I'm in mechanic school and I am learning a lot from your videos and want(ed) to get an FRZ and tune it.....I am starting to think that this car isn't meant for serious power upgrades after hearing everything you have had to replace on your car with headers, tune, and a turbo. It seems like you are going to have to rebuild your entire engine after this process is over. Maybe you should cut your losses and buy a used cayman or boxter...Idk, let me know what you think.
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 4 жыл бұрын
Adding power to this car is difficult. The engine and trans both aren’t capable of handling power reliably. If you want a car that’s out of the box quick and moderately reliable, consider the C7 corvette or maybe a cayman. But if you’re willing to dedicate the time and money, building this car has taught me so much and starting with a slow car has helped hone my driving skills. Look at the Evasive Motorsports Pikes Peak FRS. That thing is heavily modified but it shows the FRS chassis has great potential if you’re prepared to do what it takes... maybe I should make a video about this, lol.
@AT-fi9dj
@AT-fi9dj 4 жыл бұрын
@@OrenHolzman Thanks for the reply. Yea that sounds good to me. I definitely want to learn how to work on a car and track a car and this car is a relatively inexpensive entry point. Best of luck!
@anthonye3680
@anthonye3680 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like you should have bought a Miata.
@ROYAL_14_Z
@ROYAL_14_Z 3 жыл бұрын
Proof I own this car.....pulls out a trunk 🤣🤣🤣
@frayed610
@frayed610 3 жыл бұрын
just make it electric
@OrenHolzman
@OrenHolzman 2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea
@jrag1000
@jrag1000 2 жыл бұрын
Before this video starts, i'll tell you what happened, he blew up his car. The lesson, buy a Nissan 350 Z beforehand...
@mrporsche4236
@mrporsche4236 8 ай бұрын
Had a 370 z had big issues and so did afew of my friends never again
@AzraelIgnis
@AzraelIgnis Жыл бұрын
Gross this video is in 720.
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