Too bad about the truss rod. If Dan says it's broken, you know it's broken!
@ronsampservice30662 ай бұрын
Trogly, in my experience with guitars and mechanics/machinist work, I would have to say that when you made your video, the truss rod was not " broken". If you could put torque on the nut and it would spring back, the rod, to me, seemed intact. But the nut was definitely stuck to the threads for some reason. If you ever get another one that acts like that, you might try heating the nut with a large soldering iron. Like a 100 watt for making leaded colored glass windows. But be sure there is no solder whatsoever on the iron. Beautiful guitar! Thanks brother for all the hard work that you are doing and I will definitely come see your museum when it's up and running.
@robertmay50912 ай бұрын
I’m sure Dan Erlewine would have got it working if a procedure like that was possible
@Trog2 ай бұрын
Everything was tried. Heat was unfortunately not a solution to fixing this one. I was hoping it was just a mangled truss rod and a chasing job would do the trick, but Dan was able to confirm the rod was broken inside the neck
@derekkennedy73462 ай бұрын
I counted four missing threat nibs
@dublev782 ай бұрын
@@robertmay5091This. Dan Erlewine is a living legend.
@pulaski12 ай бұрын
I'm betting two things: [1] that the truss rod was "broken"/ improperly installed in the factory, which is why it was stamped "BGN". And [2] that the fact there there is a "bargain" version, means there was at least one that left the factory in "perfect" condition.
@dlflash562 ай бұрын
I have one, a 1977, no pancake body. I got it from one of my best friends, shortly before he passed away from cancer, back in 2014, I Love it. He got it as a High School graduation gift, back in 1980. Even though he rarely played it, and it lived in its case for most of its life, unfortunately, he had an alcohol problem and a 3 pack a day habit. He also had extremely acidic sweat. It took a lot of work to clean it up and pretty much all of the hardware needed to be replaced. I did keep all of the parts; however, the bridge was not salvageable... since all of the screws were fused from his sweat. It also affected the handle on the chainsaw case. He was so acidic, he could put on a set of strings, play it for a couple of hours, wipe them down with finger ease and the next morning they were rusty. The headstock is stamped, and the three-piece maple neck is heavily flamed on the center piece. Mine also has the metal can shield over the pots. The only way I could date it, was from the pots (It's been a while but if I remember, 48th week of 1976), which is why I believe it's a 1977. I sent the serial number to Gibson and they tried to tell me it was a 1973, but the pots tell a different story.
@bmp-22672 ай бұрын
There's a health lesson to be learned here. Cancer flourishes in an acidic environment. There's plenty of things you can do to change your body's ph. Learn and live.
@papasmamas12 ай бұрын
The top and fretboard looks amazing. One reason I never ended up liking the look of this LPs is for the weird contrast pearl inlays have with the maple fretboard, and this ones solves it. Even black dot inlays would look cool on this.
@angus.f.kendal15442 ай бұрын
Thats one of the best sounding LesPauls I've heard lately✌️👽🌾
@paultrombetta2 ай бұрын
What's the big can? Back of the input jack?
@Trog2 ай бұрын
Yes, the output jacks were encased in this era
@petevadelnieks2 ай бұрын
Seriously???? How did he not comment on that? Is it some capacitor?
@chrisghiardi1172 ай бұрын
Shielding. During the 70s there was a period with no bridge/string grounding. Possibly because amps with polarity switches even with grounded 3 prong plugs were common.
@silvernuggets12852 ай бұрын
The pots looked absolutely minty...
@markt48152 ай бұрын
An employee special a.ka. "Backdoor Gibson".
@tonray93952 ай бұрын
Years ago I lived in an apartment next door to a Chrysler assembly plant.After each night shift there would be a nice selection of brtand new parts tossed over the fence to be collected later when the shift is over. At least the Gibson guys paid for it albeit at a discount
@EnJoony2 ай бұрын
Incredibly rare guitar - Well, then it's worth replacing the truss rod!
@martinhiggs70272 ай бұрын
I acquired a "5420" about 5 years ago ! the build is absolutely top quality with the orange metal flake finish, the only mod was a roller bridge ! It's an absolute must to help the unit to hold its tune, today the guitar absolutely rocks, I will be installing a "VIBRAMATE" soon to help in changing strings !
@KALVIN1232 ай бұрын
You going to put that guitar in a museum, a busted truss rod shouldnt be a problem😂
@Trog2 ай бұрын
Longevity of the piece matters.
@TylerJohnstonGuitar2 ай бұрын
Love me a good maple neck on an LP. I actually prefer the no inlays, would show wear really well if you’re into that.
@jameslundy68172 ай бұрын
I like it better without the inlays looks good
@cannabineros2 ай бұрын
maple necks will survive centuries
@bladeoflucatiel2 ай бұрын
There are exotic woods harder than maple, just imagine if they used them for guitars.
@mykneeme2 ай бұрын
What if it left the factory with broken trussrod? And that’s why it was marked a bargain? If the neck is straight, it wouldn’t have been a problem for me personally to own such a guitar. If it was disclosed though and not with such a high pricetag.
@Trog2 ай бұрын
Bargains and seconds were cosmetic blemishes only - anything that bad was chopped up.
@Noooooooooooooooooooooooo-2 ай бұрын
you should check out Banker guitars, they are high quality really nice guitars. They were the first Gibson Partner, so they have an actual Flying V and Explorer.
@jeffreyburmeister67752 ай бұрын
Keep it. You pass on way too many !
@Trog2 ай бұрын
If the truss rod wasn't broken, I would've never parted with it
@eric_in_florida2 ай бұрын
@@Trog You're not going to play it, it's a museum piece. Keep it. See if the place will refund some of your $$.
@RC51Rod2 ай бұрын
@@TrogFor what you want to do, you are the perfect home for it. I want to go to your museum and see stuff like this! You aren't gonna let me play it anyways, no need for the truss rod to work. Haha
@Wargasm542 ай бұрын
@@TrogDan can fix a broken truss rod.
@DannyRedCheeks22 күн бұрын
Looks great Les Paul’s look so much better without pick guards
@jimkalfakis98932 ай бұрын
I think Dan is too scared to fix the truss rod and doesn’t want to be responsible if it breaks on his watch. It’s seized because of moisture. Give it to me, I’ll get it moving.
@ios66052 ай бұрын
It’s a keeper ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
@oscarhrmusic2 ай бұрын
That guitar sounds amazing! Too bad the truss rod is busted. I would keep it just for the sound and keep it in the studio.
@stephanskogen38172 ай бұрын
Why not save it? I mean, if StewMac can fix it for $500, isn't that more important than it being original?
@jaymax32012 ай бұрын
It's listed as a Les Paul Custom MPL•F in my 1979 guitar book. Although it is a black and white photo, it appears that there is no block inlay. The price is 268,000 yen, the regular Custom is 265,000 yen, 3PU is 295,000 yen, Artisan is 350,000 yen, and Standard is 228,000 yen.
@Trog2 ай бұрын
please send me a photo of that - austin@troglysguitarshow.com
@dosgos2 ай бұрын
Y 268,000 was a bit over $1,000 in 1979. That would have included shipping to Japan and probably some Japanese import tariffs (I don't know if there was any type of sales tax included).
@flapjack4132 ай бұрын
Hey, wait a minute. What's going on with the rounded corners on the end of the fretboard? That's not how Gibson does binding. Is that three pieces, with the corners rounded over, or a single piece of binding wrapping around the entirety of the fretboard?
@williampolfus69752 ай бұрын
That's the first thing I noticed about this guitar, I've never seen another Les Paul where the binding is rounded over at the neck joint corners like that, at least an actual USA made Gibson. It seems more likely someone replaced the fretboard at some point.
@NemesisDarkStar2 ай бұрын
Really cool, I'm a bass player turned guitar player. I love maple fretboard on my p basses. Mahogany and ebony gibsons. Although I think that looks awesome. Ive never really liked inlays other than dots. Something about simplicity.
@lewisgeyer14402 ай бұрын
30 years ago a guy offered to sell me a maple fretboard LPC for $400. Problem? He was standing outside the pawnshop that refused to buy it from him. Probably stolen.
@bladeoflucatiel2 ай бұрын
Did you buy it at least?
@ChrisShortyAllen2 ай бұрын
Never look a gift horse in the mouth. Without evidence you should not accuse someone.
@nellayema24552 ай бұрын
40 years ago I sold 2 60's Epiphones to a guy as I left the pawn shop. The pawn shop dude pissed me off with his low ball offer, so I sold them to a guy walking in and got my price. They were not stolen guitars. Could be a similar situation with the guy who had the Les Paul.
@whoisdin2 ай бұрын
Hey Trogly. long time viewer. been noticing something... the number of dB between your quietest part and your loudest is massive. it's too dynamic. try compressing more. depending on the listeners situation, it can be very challenging to listen to your videos without volume riding. :)
@joermnyc2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of my high school gym after they replaced the floor with nice hard maple and then slathered gloss urethane all over it (insert squeaky sneaker sounds). You can replace the broken rod, but on a $6k guitar? That’s major surgery on the neck and it would likely knock a ton of value off because of the repair.
@JocAn-ri7ey2 ай бұрын
I sent pictures of my Custom Maple a few years ago but you never replied. At least you finally did a episode of one.
@P-J-W-7772 ай бұрын
It’s actually sounds really good.
@hotblackdesiato34512 ай бұрын
What on earth is that giant canister at 15:50 ? I can't remember ever seeing something like that before and Trogly doesn't mention it.
@Trog2 ай бұрын
It’s the output Jack. They are encased in this era
@ERAPOSORESERVA2 ай бұрын
You’re gonna keep it behind a glass in the museum anyways, it makes no difference. It’s such a rare and beautiful piece, I’d never let it go because of that.
@ERAPOSORESERVA2 ай бұрын
@@ironnads7975cool, but I didn’t ask anything, I just gave my opinion
@charlesrocks2 ай бұрын
Pretty simple fix. Not a deal breaker at all!!! Just get it fixed and keep it! Busted truss rod takes a lot of work, but it’s not impossible to fix.
@lilbitofOverdrive2 ай бұрын
Keep it and have dan put a new rod in it it sounded great
@mmcwill12 ай бұрын
Hey Trog, in your opinion, was the broken truss rod the reason it was stamped BGN? I’m assuming they don’t use that stamp anymore?
@henrikneesgaard17642 ай бұрын
Really fell in love with that one.. 😌 Soo sad about the trussrod.. 😔
@glaucosouza19712 ай бұрын
Wow, really looking forward for that project with Dan. Sure it will be a blast!
@pulaski12 ай бұрын
I'm betting two things: [1] that the truss rod was "broken"/ improperly installed in the factory, which is why it was stamped "BGN". And [2] that the fact there there is a "bargain" version, means there was at least one that left the factory in "perfect" condition.
@clarkbabin97992 ай бұрын
That's really nice looking on its own. The rosewood pieces look good also and I agree if you do the pickguard you have to do the pickup rings and the truss rod cover and the poker chip.. Was thinking it mightve looked good with rosewood inlays on that maple neck but being the fret board looks like it does they would have to be smaller . The big blocks like you see on a standard may take away to much .
@paulketchupwitheverything7672 ай бұрын
I love the grain and three piece top on this guitar. I find an irregular grain pattern more interesting than more consistent quilting or stripes. I have a fondness for natural top Les Pauls generally and am lucky enough to own a 'Raw Power' Standard (not the type with EMG pickups). I'd be interested to try a LP with a maple neck instead of mahogany. So will the shop sell it to someone else as it is or get the truss rod fixed? If it were mine and I could afford the repair, I'd have a rosewood fingerboard with inlays and more modern frets, preferring playability over originality.
@johnsmith-ug5tp2 ай бұрын
I can't believe the shop that bought it didn't remove the cover and check the truss rod? SMH
@pulaski12 ай бұрын
Maybe they assumed most buyers wouldn't notice until much later, when too much time had passed for the buyer to complain.
@johnsmith-ug5tp2 ай бұрын
@@pulaski1 I was giving that business the benefit of the doubt. I learned the hard way and always turn the truss rod.
@SalmiRahman2 ай бұрын
Would've been more nicer looking if the kbobs, selector plate an pickup rings were cream color instead of black.
@ricardobermudez62292 ай бұрын
amazing video, thanks!!! I love this guitar
@bigdbearkiller51152 ай бұрын
That decal is easy to make
@sconnyjoe52622 ай бұрын
I like the "Sophie's Choice" reference.
@aaabeverages71522 ай бұрын
It's a very handsome axe. Just had to rock your roll.😊
@Slovy_2 ай бұрын
I refretted a 76 custom the other day for a customer of mine. It had a ground wire just like that.
@JokersWild702 ай бұрын
That's really too bad about the truss rod. I understand not wanting to pay 6K for a guitar with a major issue, museum piece or not
@jeffbarnard92462 ай бұрын
I like the freek 😮 it's beautiful. I like the secret texts about gibson specials or any guitar secret deals
@GroovegandalfАй бұрын
Hey everybody, I have a really weird question. I love drawlies but I'm looking for someone who does sort of what he does but with fenders because I'm much more of a fender nerd and really want to learn about the history of that stuff. Buddy has a channel that they could recommend. I would greatly appreciate it. Keep up all the great work. The less Paul history is fascinating
@disco45352 ай бұрын
A Trogly and Dan project is a crossover we need
@ericolson3262 ай бұрын
The dark headstocks on these blondies ruin the whole look. Come on, how hard would a maple veneer with black inlay have been?
@danletter93572 ай бұрын
I actually like the ebony body one
@usagi29882 ай бұрын
Ugh... the truss rod info was a real heartbreak. ☹
@wrtoomes6002 ай бұрын
That guitar is beautiful.
@Penberth12 ай бұрын
Ah man, what a shame. Generally not a fan of the lacquered maple fretboard LPCs of this era, but that looks fantastic and sounds excellent. I'd happily rock the hell out of that, I'm sure would sound outstanding through an old Marshall or two.
@OzziePete12 ай бұрын
The overdriven sounds remind me of Mick Ronson/David Bowie era....
@zeusapollo86882 ай бұрын
Is the can on the output wire a ferrite noise suppressor?
@radfury23g322 ай бұрын
Once again, maple fretboard Gibsons are SICKKKK! And no inlays!? SIGN ME UP FOR ONE WTF
@jubei72592 ай бұрын
July 28 1976 was my 7th birthday lol. I'd be gutted about that truss rod, especially as it all looked so good. Sounds fantastic too.
@michaeljarvis54892 ай бұрын
Do you have kids? Middle/Highschool age ...who giggle and ask you what year you were born?
@Phoenix3082 ай бұрын
I actually kinda like how it looks
@vincentrandles81052 ай бұрын
Definitely a first for me. Never seen another. (Unfortunately) but don't give up the hunt, possibly more out there - who knows....
@jimdoner34432 ай бұрын
Very interesting
@chrisghiardi1172 ай бұрын
It's a BGN because the truss rod is broke or previously nonfunctional. My experience is that BGN guitars are seriously flawed and unless you know what was fixed avoid. Did sound good.
@Kahuna542 ай бұрын
I bought a Carvin DC135T new in the Santa Ana store. I played it about a week and it went unplayable so I took it back. It was diagnosed as a broken truss rod. They built me a replacement under warranty but it never sounded as good as the original. Imo
@lasombra_br2 ай бұрын
Maaaaan, what a shame! I was excited for you because it truly looks out of this world.
@Clearview682 ай бұрын
Your own video shows the truss rod was not busted (spinning loose) before you sent it out to be looked at. The nut was likely just frozen. Someone else tried to break that nut loose and snapped the rod. That should be investigated further, especially if the person you bought it from won't take it back for that reason. Aside from that, for a one of a kind factory guitar (such as this) seems kind of silly to not spend a few hundred to repair it?
@jonscudder7592 ай бұрын
Such a cool guitar and heartbreaking when there is something wrong and has to go back.
@georgewendle74672 ай бұрын
On a side note, I enjoyed having a quick jam with you today :)
@engleharddinglefester42852 ай бұрын
It has the "gig monster" look to it. Meant to be played in a honky tonk.
@victorsilvas96032 ай бұрын
Did the L6S have inlays?
@andye36842 ай бұрын
👍
@Nobody924212 ай бұрын
I had one of those. (With inlays...) It weighed a ton. Super low frets. And yes. I regret selling it.
@picksalot12 ай бұрын
Too bad about the Truss Rod. I've seen someone add a washer as a "spacer" to get more tightening threads on the Truss Rod Nut, but exactly how it's broken on your guitar neck is unclear. There are carpenter devices/tools that you can attach to your Cellphone that let you see "to some degree" through Wallboard, Concrete, to find metal pipes and wires behind them, etc. Might be worth asking your friends in they have any such devices. I tried my old "Walabot" on my Strat neck, but it's not sensitive enough to see anything I'd consider meaningful.
@rudiyantohalim7362 ай бұрын
It surely sound so good
@mikecarbone8282 ай бұрын
Salutations Austin! Too bad it has a broken truss rod, otherwise, it is a really nice Les Paul Custom, and it is extra special having no fret markers at all. Thanks for sharing! Please have an excellent and awesome day! ☀️✨🎸
@knutsenneundorf1162 ай бұрын
How much force do you need to apply to break a truss rod? This sounds brutal.
@stewea572 ай бұрын
I always wondered in your reviews when you say the truss rod looks good how would you know without trying to adjust it
@Trog2 ай бұрын
My preliminary check is for maxed out rods with too many threads showing. Issues past that aren't quite as common and cannot be diagnosed from photos alone
@EarthAltar2 ай бұрын
@@Trog It's a shame Austin as that is one of the best sounding LPs you've ever demoed. I wonder if that maple is so hard that it broke the rod whenever someone originally tried to turn it? The maple refused to move, and the rod gave way before the wood.
@EarthAltar2 ай бұрын
@@cataclysmicconverterImagine the heartbreak as you feel the rod snap, and realize what's happened.
@DDE_ADDICT2 ай бұрын
Nice score
@JayBirdsRockWorld2 ай бұрын
maple fretboards brightens the tone alot
@mboyer682 ай бұрын
However old you were when you fell in love with guitars...I bet that even with your imagination (finding smiley faces or bears in wood gain for example)...even with your imagination you probably couldn't have dreamt that you'd be unboxing, cleaning, measuring, capturing and spreading Gibson history, would have a huge following of great people and be squirreling away super expensive and rare Gibson guitars for a museum!!!
@strat08712 ай бұрын
I have an SG with no inlays, and real ebony fretboard, but it's a luthier made SG, not a Gibson.
@3cardmonty6022 ай бұрын
Water damage on the bottom?
@volkerlinzer8442 ай бұрын
…you get the maple neck…in ebony… hihi
@scottbogfoot2 ай бұрын
The two pancake bodies should be called half or short stack and full stack
@billyc66782 ай бұрын
That’s a keeper 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
@ericbgordon15752 ай бұрын
Gibson would be well served to build and market more guitars with maple fingerboards.
@vincentmorelli10132 ай бұрын
I don't get why the store doesn't just offer a free truss rod replacement.
@disco45352 ай бұрын
Many probably could but its an intensive, expensive process. Many people would probably take it to their luthier they know does good work for sure, if they were going to go that far.
@vincentmorelli10132 ай бұрын
@@disco4535 if they're trying to sell it for 6k then it better function like it is
@Returnality2 ай бұрын
that's a very expensive thing to give away for free
@vincentmorelli10132 ай бұрын
@@Returnality for a 6k guitar? Gtfoh
@MarkEdward-bl6cr2 ай бұрын
Hopefully it can be fixed such a cool guitar shame on that shop they had to know it was in that condition !
@russl90292 ай бұрын
Your playing has gotten way better! Great video! Sorry your "freak" was busted :( That would have been really cool to have!
@kevincox91192 ай бұрын
If it was busted you would be able to pull it out🤔
@jimmyjames20222 ай бұрын
Ah sucks this sweet maple board LP with no inlays had to go back, but that store better let the next buyer know about the truss rod!
@MegaHomie4life2 ай бұрын
So good!
@wesleed11202 ай бұрын
Damn
@bradconklin28782 ай бұрын
The one with the pick guard looks better, period.
@Mark_Media2 ай бұрын
But Trog! What is that big metal cylinder looking think in the electronics cavity????? Stands out like a sore thumb! You are usually so on with description, yet you didn't mention what that is???
@kris955i22 ай бұрын
It’s the jack socket. For some reason it is enclosed on this one
@ChrisShortyAllen2 ай бұрын
He's just teasing you hoping for a comment. What must it be?
@kris955i22 ай бұрын
@@ChrisShortyAllen hoping for a comment from trogly?
@Trog2 ай бұрын
It is the output Jack - they are encased in this era. It had to be removed from Jack plate to take the pots out
@6banzai52 ай бұрын
tough decision but I think you made the right one
@justinpurser47362 ай бұрын
Beauty with a distinctive tone, shame about the truss rod. Way interested in the Dan E. project. Thanks Trogly!
@MegaHomie4life2 ай бұрын
Don’t get rid of it just because of the truss rod
@ousley4212 ай бұрын
Freaking SICK, my birthday is coming up...could someone make me a bargain?