It goes to 11! Logitech Pro Wheel and Pedals review: DD and load cell FTW

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Logitech G Pro Racing Wheel and Pro Racing Pedals
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Going up to 11Nm of torque, the Logitech Pro Wheel is a solid choice for those looking to take their sim racing setup to the next level.
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0:41 Overview
1:58 Pro Racing Wheel
3:52 Mounting
4:49 The wheel design
6:50 TrueForce
8:02 Pro Racing Pedals
9:30 Spring swap
10:45 Brake talk
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12:38 G Hub
13:48 In-use
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@Masterr-K Жыл бұрын

It's funny how I see so many people on here calling it overpriced crap, but with every review that I've seen, the reviewers, who actually have one, love it. They say it even performs just as good, if not better than the higher priced options. One reviewer, boosted media, even thinks the quality of the plastic is better than some of the metal housings on other brands. I myself will probably buy one because of all the good reviews it has gotten. I have yet to see a negative review! To those looking to buy one, I would listen to the people who actually have one, and not the people making speculative comments because they want everyone to believe what they have, or what they are a fan of, is the best. Often times people knock other things to make themselves feel better about what the already own!

@caliginousmoira8565 Жыл бұрын

harkor simb razer.......'mine better than yours'

@talon1706 Жыл бұрын

It is good. Don't listen to the jealous ones.

@timefortimbo Жыл бұрын

There's merrit to it being overpriced but for 999 you get the motor and wheel, where as, say, the equivilant fanatec motor and wheel combo, you get the 8nm motor for 500 and a cheap wheel for 150, or an equal wheel for 400, totalling 900 anyway. Very close price range, and i know which brand i'd trust more for reliability

@kidShibuya 4 ай бұрын

Agree. But keep in mind UK reviewers. I bought my G Pro wheel and pedals for a little over 1K USD, but if I were in the UK Logitech would want 1.7K for the exact same thing.

@CrashD6 Жыл бұрын

14:38 Drifting 101 1. Begin with donuts, big or small, and both sides. 2. Do figure 8's, this where you learn transitions. 3. Once you nail figure 8's and feel comfortable, download a drifting course on Assetto Corsa, pick a low speed one to begin and stick with it until you nail it. Observations: Don't care about changing gears, you will need only the 2nd gear to learn low speed drifting, also, you need to get use with the wheel turning itself, your wheel will always turn faster than your hands, and you need that speed, learn to make micro adjustments, the car won't drive itself, the wheel turns because of weight transfer. One more thing, you don't really need a handbrake to learn how to drift, but certainly helps a lot, just remember to kick the clutch while you pull the handbrake. Drifting is hard to learn but very rewarding, once you learn it, it's like riding a bicycle, you will never forget!

@Frankestein01nl Жыл бұрын

Also, in ac overinflate your rear tires to help a bit more with the loss of traction. You dont have to go fast to drift, you can even ride the brakes a bit... the flow will come with practice. IF you ever get into VR, you'll be feeling like a driftking, as all the inputs to create the sideways movement on the screen will transfer much easier through your eyes in a set of goggles. Good luck on nailing those combo's once you get the basics done. Remember, it's the balance between your hands and feet, that keep a car in balance.

@JP-wu8ek Жыл бұрын

Okay...

@Thehoeh Жыл бұрын

I'm really excited that Logitech put this out. Can't wait to pick it up!

@Jorge.-..-.-.--..-.-.- Жыл бұрын

For the price is ton of options better on DDs mate

@carloscervantes836 Жыл бұрын

@@Jorge.-..-.-.--..-.-.- I would say it looks like a nice piece of kit tho. I still plan to go with the Fanatec GT DD pro premium bundle but 11nm is nice.

@Dave062YT Жыл бұрын

I ve been running T-LCM pedals and you can easily mod the load cell but throttle and clutch are sealed in and you have to unsecrew the base to access the springs so this is much better,

@carloscervantes836 Жыл бұрын

Now this is a much better Logitech offering. Fanatec has a 900-1K option around this but it caps at 8nm.

@marcelbreytenbach593 Жыл бұрын

In the early 90'sI built a wheel from a real racing steering wheel, an old joystick and some rubber bands for resistance. I played Indie 500, it was a blast! But even then, the hamster in the wheel, dreamt at night of things that would become reality 30 years later.

@tracklizard4018 Жыл бұрын

There's nothing cool or new about this wheel specifically though imho.

@guig16 Жыл бұрын

@@tracklizard4018 apparently the for feedback is of a higher quality than other similar wheels and that's where the hype comes in

@PresidentScrooge Жыл бұрын

@@guig16 It isn't. Equal Wheels such as the Moza R9 or Simagic Alpha Mini are roughly equa. Some people like the TrueForce feature, others don't. It has little to do with the ForceFeedback itself, but is more an addition to it. The biggest advantage Logitech has is that they can be used for Consoles and fill the gap that Fanatec has between their CSL DD (that is only using a stepping instead of a servo motor) and their DD1 / DD2. Also their pedals seem to be better than everything Fanatec has to offer.

@guig16 Жыл бұрын

@@PresidentScrooge I didn't know that's thanks

@aquafx00 Жыл бұрын

After about 3 weeks of watching, listening and contemplating what DD ecosystem to get into, 2 options were really all that made any sense for me living in Canada due to the $ and shipping, Moza or Logitech. I decided on the G Pro , as my guess is this ecosystem has the best chance at staying relevant longterm. My 5 year G920 wheel looks and works like new and there's still a market for them. All the other options I'm not too sure about. Hope more wheel options come along soon and it will be interesting to see what the mod community comes up with. 🙂

@storypunman 7 ай бұрын

Also live in Canada, was there any problem ordering on-line and any problems with the G Pro? Looking at getting one for the PS/PC version.

@Dave062YT Жыл бұрын

Had to buy this today,The extra layers of fidelity from the Tueforce made me to get out my card and man up.Can't wait for it to get here and I'm never going back to ordinary wheels .I have the NLR F-GT cockpit btw very good and very little flex 100% recommended

@antoniocabrita Жыл бұрын

Hello thank you for your video! Do you think the trueforce is something that would make you replace a Fanatec GT DD Pro with this new wheel ?

@rafalhodgson1508 Жыл бұрын

Great Video!

@taimurutube-rcmaniac-basherrc Жыл бұрын

Great video

@heinous70 2 ай бұрын

My Playseat Evolution and G29 are a little over a decade old now. Micro Center opens here in May, and I'll be able to walk out of a retail store with a DD pro under my arm. I'm ready. Thing is, that's about as far as I really want to take it. I've looked, and I can't seem to find anyone that's bolted one of these to an Evolution. I guess that should be a sign right? To make matters worse, the only thing I'm really interested in is the Playseat Sensation, and those carry a high price that's even higher in the US. I got into this in the late nineties, and I'm an old man now. It's a very old hobby for me. If I could get away with a partial upgrade, that would be great.. but I'm not so sure I'm willing to invest in an entirely new rig Outstanding research. Out of every review I've watched, you're the first person that's pointed out the rotation limit. Thank you! Spinning like a fan after a crash is something I consider very unrealistic. I think Logitech probably saw what was in store for fanatec, and are waiting for the competition to disappear before they release optional Wheels😅 To have been new at this, you gave a much better review than others.. especially for the Logitech fan. I believe there's a different set of standards and features that are far more important to us than the masses.

@willmt9728 Жыл бұрын

If u want to use a shifter with it u can use the thrustmaster TH8A using a usb that u just plug directly into the PC

@talon1706 Жыл бұрын

I got an adapter cable to use my existing G29 shifter with this wheel. It shows up as G2x in devices. edit. Until I get a better one. :)

@timefortimbo Жыл бұрын

unfortunately this won't work for console users, but logitech says they're coming out with an adapter to work with old pedals and shifters directly with the new wheel for console users. Plus... its pretty obvious we're just waiting for them to come out with more and more peripherals for this platform. It'll print money

@Photopdra Жыл бұрын

Throttle control is a key for drifting

@kason9194 16 күн бұрын

What happens for example in GT7 if I set the max torque to 5/10 and on the wheel I set it to say 5 nm? Does this mean the effective max torque would be 2.5 nm?

@azbear2781 Жыл бұрын

Fanatecs Sequential clubsport shifter does not work when plugged into this wheel with the USB dongle. It still requires a separate connection and as such will only work with this wheel on PC and not console.

@rumdore Жыл бұрын

id think thats to be expected tbh

@azbear2781 Жыл бұрын

@@rumdore Expected.. and now confirmed for those who aren't sure.

@Bad888Max Жыл бұрын

Usb c would be nice - intersted what would dlc wheel be- mclaren?

@davethebaron Жыл бұрын

It's good that they got with the times but it could've been a bit cheaper.

@mangs9940 Жыл бұрын

What I would like to know is what arcade racers will work with this wheel. Obviously the ones on the official list. But what about older games like grid 2, dirt 2/3 , NFS series. There is an g923 compatibility mode. Does this mean it will work with all games that worked on g923?The reason I asked was that grid 2 , NFS heat / payback /2016 and dirt 3 are officially supported by the g923 but are not mentioned in compatibility list even with g923 mode

@steevo124 Жыл бұрын

Does Acc (PC) recognize the Logitech Pro Wheel in "pro wheel" mode? My wheel does not work in pro wheel mode. I have to use the G923 Compatibility mode with my pro wheel for it to work. Not sure if it's just my wheel?

@rchatte100 Жыл бұрын

pricing is crazy!

@snippidippi Жыл бұрын

You can get the simagic alpha with gt1 or gtu wheel and simforge loadcell pedals for same price

@truegaming6183 Жыл бұрын

To much

@solidfpvdeadgxsr4528 Жыл бұрын

Getting Fanatec 8nm, with a set of wheels with universal hub xbox quick release, Pedals with clutch load cell, Is 1199 vs logitec pro 11nm with pedals 1260. Im still trying to choose and pull trigger!!

@abuelb Жыл бұрын

@@snippidippi uhmm? No. $1600 for alpha base and gt1 wheel alone.💆

@snippidippi Жыл бұрын

@@abuelb in usa? I have seen prices in Europe for 1000-1300€ for alpha mini 10nm with gt1-D wheel

@johnl2613 Жыл бұрын

Does the pedal work with non logitech wheel? Can I connect it to a USB port on pc?

@ViperJon 5 ай бұрын

Just bought one thanks for the in-depth info. There is a bit of a discount now on the pair but still not cheap. But Fanatec's abysmal customer service, ridiculous lead times and limited console compatibility sold me on this wheel pedal combo.

@laur.an01 Жыл бұрын

Hey buddy. Tips for drifting: start with the old bmw, it's very well balanced and it would make your life a lot easier. Use street 90 tries if you have the option. Start with small drifts. Practice circles, move to eights and connect them. When drifting, try to always be in a gear that would allow you to drift at 70%-80% of revs, on the drift map, I can do a full circle in the 3rd gear while driving the bmw. Don't try to make things happen, you need to lose the grip and let the car dance :), don't let her fall tho, catch it in time and control the drift with the acceleration, break and clutch. You wanna lose grip and you can't? Clutch kick. You wanna increase the angle of the drift? Accelerate a little harder Wanna extend a drift? Slight brake mid drift plus acceleration all the way (don't over do it as you will lose too much speed). This was a very messy advice but if you listen to few of the points you'll naturally get it. You probably know the general rule, practice makes perfect.

@9to5toys Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips! Yes, I really just need to put more time in. But I'll keep these tips in mind. Cheers!

@solidfpvdeadgxsr4528 Жыл бұрын

I would say. First tip, get a shifter if you dont have 1.

@dimitris.4484 Жыл бұрын

This DD wheel costs 1300 euros (base and pedals). When you can get this combo for 970 euros from fanatec the only think is that this whell it has a bit lower torque.

@svtcontour Жыл бұрын

Are you speaking of the 8NM one? If so its a fair bit of torque difference so if you want their more powerful direct drive, , its about $300 difference for the unit, so it kind of puts it in line with this pricing - thought the fanatec then has more torque - but basically this in the middle somewhere.

@timefortimbo Жыл бұрын

You can get that combo with the worst dd wheel on the market, and the cheapest pos basic wheel on the market, and good pedals. Who would have guessed that buying worse products for a lower price would cost less?

@midnightvoyageurs Жыл бұрын

are they anounced shifter for this ?

@snippidippi Жыл бұрын

Can you remove the cluth pedal? If you want 2 pedal option

@9to5toys Жыл бұрын

yup! all of the pedals are removable and adjustable.

@UTD1958 Жыл бұрын

Is it possible to replace the original wheel with a add on wheel?

@stupidpieceofequipment Жыл бұрын

they havent realeased any yet, but i imagine 3rd party companies will be right on it, and logitech themselves will probably make some in the future

@shadow_playz6351 Жыл бұрын

man its my dream to have a wheel

@grantolio5 Жыл бұрын

Title 🔥

@kevinjohnson9579 Жыл бұрын

Where is the pro shifter and handbrake? LG needs to get it together...

@Outlander682 Жыл бұрын

Is the h patter shifter compatible with this set up

@ihanvaavp5383 Жыл бұрын

@carloscervantes836 Жыл бұрын

For drifting, I tried AC just with a gampad and found the car doesn't turn or lose traction how I would imagine. People say it has good real world physics but it really made me doubt that or think there are some settings that need to be changed.

@KnowerofThings Жыл бұрын

do you have traction control stability control still on? try changing the tires to street and use the bmw e30 drift car.

@timefortimbo Жыл бұрын

Gamepads in assetto typically hit wheel lock immediately in a very unrealistic way. Imagine if you were driving at 40 miles an hour and your wheel went from straight to maximum lock in an instant. That's basically gamepad on assetto...

@jonbranch710 Жыл бұрын

My question is can I use my fanatec shifter

@Krayziedad Жыл бұрын

Can somebody help me out here. Can you connect the Thrustmaster shifter and handbrake at the back? Does it work when i play GT7 and AC on the PS5? Or does the shifter and handbrake only work with PC?

@COCO4TACOZ Жыл бұрын

I don’t believe it would work on console unfortunately. On PC the shifter and brake could be connected directly to the computer but on console they would not be recognized through the USB ports on the wheel base.

@hathanabdullah9679 Жыл бұрын

any good realistic fun games to play sim on pc

@fabricationnation8052 Жыл бұрын

Will my 923 pedal work with new wheel and base?

@FATALROTARY Жыл бұрын

Found a answer to this question?

@fabricationnation8052 Жыл бұрын

@@FATALROTARY not yet....would love to know tho....even tried to send message to Logitech, but no luck....they want me to make a customer service account and claim just to ask a question

@FATALROTARY Жыл бұрын

@@fabricationnation8052 wow seriously..

@sinz1875 Жыл бұрын

No but I believe, they are coming out with an adapter.

@fabricationnation8052 Жыл бұрын

@@sinz1875 thanks for confirming that....been hoping someone would answer it

@XBOW83 Жыл бұрын

1000e for the wheels + base ? 😔

@truegaming6183 Жыл бұрын

Yea way to much

@pablo3558 Жыл бұрын

how much torque has a real steering wheel?

@atomik9469 Жыл бұрын

it goes to 11! damn. thats pretty high. 39,916,800newton meters. if you dont get it, its 11!

@truegaming6183 Жыл бұрын

Looks nice but the damn thing is too expensive

@jodyhiiirolla2398 Жыл бұрын

You gotta pay to play baby boy!

@truegaming6183 Жыл бұрын

@@jodyhiiirolla2398 yeah I'll get it soon

@anyau Жыл бұрын

if you are still struggling with drifting i would recommend a doing an experience day in real life. couple hundred dollars but you will learn and feel the most important thing. Weight transfer.. it is unbelievably difficult to learn how to be good in sims without that feeling of inertia or alternatively if you have nice car irl practice some figure 8s in a quiet industrial area

@9to5toys Жыл бұрын

That would be a lot of fun! I don’t think my ‘05 golf tdi would cut it 😅

@Rozzyfro Жыл бұрын

Just looking to buy a racing wheel when Logitech dropped this what a coincidence LMFAO...

@tigerbalm666 Жыл бұрын

$1300 OUCH! Not touching that...even Fanatec seems like a deal vs this!

@gullejerr Жыл бұрын

actually just made a comparison with fanatec, and the 8nm GT DD comes in for about €200 cheaper, but it also depends on what whell you buy with it. I picked the McLaren GT3 steeringwheel for this occasion. That wheel is only €200. If you get a wheel similair to the logitec wheel you end up with something like the fanatec clubsport GT v2, which is priced at €400, making the sets pretty much equal in price.

@allenhinson1066 Жыл бұрын

I will stay with my Fanatec.

@marcelbreytenbach593 Жыл бұрын

I am quite happy the market is opening up. It just shows that we are now getting spoiled for choices. Having a Fanatec myself now, I am still relishing the fact that my old G29 got me here.

@cookecothanet Жыл бұрын

Would be great if their support was any good. Decided to purchase. It’s a lot of money! Bought pedals and wheel together from their shop . Wheel arrived within a week. Still waiting for pedals a month later. Said they were in stock and on way .Support worse than useless. Loads of promises nothing happens. Just told to be patient. Shocking Just awful one star service . Will give it a few days then going to return although looking at the one star trustpilot reviews then this will be a nightmare AVOID

@samgao Жыл бұрын

a real steering wheel doesn't even go to 11. In fact, I have mine about 6nm, and that's about the same as my lotus elise s2 with it's manual steering. My Genesis G70 with a weighty electronic power steering feels like a 3nm. The lotus emira I test drove is like a 3.5-4nm. the 11's are probably reserved for F1 cars...

@tritonh5683 Жыл бұрын

time to get one thats plug and play. tired of messing with dd1

@RaymondJansen Жыл бұрын

However I think the wheelbase is to big, just as the price It's looks great. The only thing I don't like are the pedals. To expensive for the plastic. There are better options for that price. And if you don't have a pedal plate on your rig then they're not usable.

@VidiSLTU Жыл бұрын

11 nM power, but expensive

@irlantiisti2810 Жыл бұрын

❤️‍🔥

@igamehard8860 Жыл бұрын

I've been playing on a Logitech wheel since gt4 days with the driving force pro gt I still have. The g29 feels great at first but absolute junk after someone hits you hard a few times. I'm sure most people won't notice. But after that happens it's like playing golf with plastic golf clubs. I would never give Logitech that much money, the quality just gets worse and worse.. but I feel like that's all companies. The products suffer because everything is too top heavy with profits over everything. Maybe the g29 needs this brass encoder ring I'm hearing about. If I flick the ps switch mid race the wheel strokes out before recalibrating, good condition g29s don't do this

@I_Like__bananas Жыл бұрын

Why micro usb? Thats terrible for this pricepoint

@princejaiswal6487 Жыл бұрын

Why every tech guy love Lego.... 🔥❤️😅

@9to5toys Жыл бұрын

😅

@pahillclimbs Жыл бұрын

so give away????? i want one so bad now but $1300 thats alot

@CrimsonRegalia Жыл бұрын

Is there a reason why Logitech still won’t support Type-C?… This is getting ridiculous… This is a “Pro” racing wheel ffs.

@ele_112 Жыл бұрын

really a usb type-c makes it a Pro

@CrimsonRegalia Жыл бұрын

@@ele_112 The issue is long term reliability. Type-C is designed so that if there is any significant force applied to the port, it would damage the cable and not the port itself. To be honest, a large Type-B connector like those used on printers would've been better since those are a lot more heavy duty. Micro-USB is just not reliable enough for this kind of application in my opinion. On some people's setups, this would be on a sim rig in the middle of a room where people could potentially trip over the cable

@eternalvomitting8784 Жыл бұрын

£1000 for every 10Nm of force??!?!?!!

@ingeonsa Жыл бұрын

Yeah seems rather silly not having usb-c, micro usb was\is so unreliable long term

@daansukano Жыл бұрын

Problem is that it's not compatible apparently with forza horizon 5, so honestly its not much needed for me and there is better gear still costing at 300

@Racing_L14M Жыл бұрын

I love this My wallet hates this

@hurhehr964 Жыл бұрын

You know

@deniskovalenko5105 Жыл бұрын

Where are the new shifters? Where are the GT or F1 style wheels? $1400 for the plastic, disgusting.... We made a removable steering wheel, but we won't provide steering wheels anytime soon. What we have at the moment - zero modifications, no ecosystem, dumb micro usb

@Haasmilton Жыл бұрын

400 USD= Fanatec V3 pedals. better Quality, best feeling. Just talking about pedals. what a joke Logitech.

@johnl2613 Жыл бұрын

$349....

@abuelb Жыл бұрын

@@johnl2613 $262

@NiCookie25 Жыл бұрын

Goes up to 11... only... I don't see a good reason as to why people are buying it. It's overpriced. (The Fanatec DD1 that goes up to 20Nm is 1100, No, you don't get a wheel, but that wheel shouldn't justify the cost of it either, or if you just want a DD wheel, CSL DD will work just fine.) The G Hub software is alright... sometimes. The pedals from what I heard and saw aren't the best either, not to mention that at the price of 389€, you could be going with Fanatec Clubsport V3s for 10€ more, or the new Asetek Forte pedals which come at 498€. In my opinion, this is a waste of money.

@ozgurkuzu2202 Жыл бұрын

in my opinion this wheel is the best.

@jodyhiiirolla2398 Жыл бұрын

Bro you can be a fan and prefer a totally different brand without having to try and pull strings to drag down the other. Jesus Christ, I don’t fucking understand people that do this childish shit.

@NiCookie25 Жыл бұрын

@@jodyhiiirolla2398 I'm not trying to drag anything, I'm just saying my opinion and reasonable alternatives to this.

@ytesla9596 Жыл бұрын

DUDE Thats 1000 $ WTF

@MrGulyo Жыл бұрын

No, thank you! I love my Fanatec! ❤

@winonesoon9771 Жыл бұрын

they should sell these for like 600 a pop and dominate the market lol....they would still make freaking bank...these kind of things must cost what??? 20 to 50 bucks, if that to make in a factory hell could be less idk..... ha i think alot alot of people forget this concept when it comes to modern electronics. Asians dont make shit unless they can make it cheap and fast.

@kylerobinson6102 Жыл бұрын

Actual cost to make or produce something like this probably about $150-200 dollars by the time you pay your overhead.

@Bobbarker23455 Жыл бұрын

We can say good but to cammus, monza, sim magic all these companies are done honestly.

@Oakcitymedia Жыл бұрын

Logitech stealing peoples money, not very valuable for the cost over value. Fanatic did pro set is similar in price. If it was a price point of $900 combo kit I’d buy it.

@abuelb Жыл бұрын

8Nm is not the same as 11Nm.

@Boknier Жыл бұрын

Joke

@freedomdst Жыл бұрын

youtube reviews are paid ads by this point.

@jake_taylor4057 Жыл бұрын

Jeez the g920 was expensive enough and it’s crap

@BelgianSimRacing Жыл бұрын

just look at the flexx of the rig .. good advertisment .. NOT

@trappedintimesurroundedbye5477 10 ай бұрын

he's not selling you a rig or reviewing it so you'll be ok so stay with us Karen

@jorgecortez8898 Жыл бұрын

Plastic everywere, no way this worth 1350 usd

@johnl2613 Жыл бұрын

Wait for sale, as usual w logitech stuff lol

@winonesoon9771 Жыл бұрын

@jadynhasstupid2275 Жыл бұрын

@@winonesoon9771 production cost for the whole set is probably 300-400$ the you add shipping and overhead plus development costs and the price point makes sense.

@Silentjackll Жыл бұрын

Nope. As soon as you said $1000, I was done. No way is it worth that much. Not to mention you can get far better direct drive for less then half the price. Logitech has simply lost their minds back when covid started. Do not entertain this sort of behavior. Don't buy overpriced crap like this.

@johnl2613 Жыл бұрын

lol 11nM base with a wheel is around that pricing. Half the price? In your dreams. The only thing that I don't like is you can't just buy the base (for now).

@Silentjackll Жыл бұрын

I was exaggerating yes. But bro. Logitech is not the way to go for E-sim. Much better companies out there that offer far better equipment for much less.

@Silentjackll Жыл бұрын

@@johnl2613 The wheel looks ok. But the rest looks like hot garbage.

@Silentjackll Жыл бұрын

@@johnl2613 Also. If you are going to spend $1000 on just the base and wheel. Why not just go the extra mile and just get the 25Nm from Fanatec? Why settle for 11Nm? 😁

@brunogamesbr1 Жыл бұрын

@@Silentjackll the combo for something like this costs about 100 to 200 less from fanatec, from what i've heard so far the wheelbase feels amazing, considering it's their first attempt at a DD wheel this is pretty good, the more competition the better, and i am curious to see what they will come up with in the next generation

@BelgianSimRacing Жыл бұрын

i rather buy a Fanatec ... then this crap.