You've just become one of my favorite motorcycle channels, sensible and responsible riding without any obnoxious para social pitch 👍

Well, kudos on demonstrating TC and ABS in the wild. I would never do this on video, because the demons of fate would come and punt me into the ditch for sure.

As an older rider myself, seeing social media littered with dangerous riders is very upsetting. Stumbling across this channel has put a massive smile on my face. The time and effort you put into these excellent videos is nothing short of brilliant. Very good explanations and easy to follow instructions for new, returning riders, and even experienced riders to learn from, because we all fall into those little habits. Absolutely brilliant channel, smashed that sub immediately. Keep up the fantastic work, and as always, ride safe people!

You're the only rider i follow because my mentality clicks with yours and whatever you teach ppl here is great, allot of transparency, no fakes just telling it how it is. Great stuff and i hope you will be back to riding soon. Greeting from UK. Btw here in Europe we are fortunate cuz they don't allow manufacturers to build bikes without abs system since 2017. America should adopt the same system tbh.❤ P.S: This systems,Abs,Tcs,6axis IMU, cornering Abs,AW on my mt09 2023 saved my life numerous times,I totally recommend them and I'll never buy a bike without them, doesn't matter how skilled you are, you gonna go down one day and when you do you want the divine intervention on you.

wow, damn convinced to get a bike that is safer now, thank you brother! THIS CHANNEL NEEDS TO BE BIGGER TO SPREAD THE GOOD INFO

Everyone should test the limit of their brakes in a safe way after they get comfortable as a rider and comfortable on their bike. You need to know what your bike is capable of and you should practice braking in emergency scenarios because you don't have time to think when it happens. Especially braking while cornering. Even with ABS you need to practice. Rider aids are not solution for rider ability.

My bike is not fast enough to need TC, but ABS on the street is essential to have. If you are riding through a busy street and a car on the left is doing some sketchy move and takes your attention, but out of nowhere a little girl runs onto the road from the right. You want to have that extra bit of security to prevent dangerous situations.

I’m about to get my first bike tomorrow which will be a ninja 300, and I’ve been watching your videos for a few weeks now and can’t wait to practice what I’ve been watching! Keep up the great videos

1976 BMW 75/6 here. I have a neutral indicator and an adjustable steering dampner...I love the luxuries on this bike !

I have experience with bikes without any electronic assistance as well as bikes with ABS and/or traction control. My riding path over the last 7 years has been CBR300, RC390, 05 ZX6R to my current bike a 2020 Suzuki Katana. Thankfully on 1/3 setting on my Katana I have never set off the traction control, but unfortunately it is not lean angle sensitive. On other bikes I have had the ABS engage on road hazards like sand. Most of my ABS experience is on the RC390. In the performance braking part of Total Control classes I learned even though the bike was equipped with ABS it did not prevent the rear wheel from coming up during efficient, threshold braking. My theory on this is as long as the braking force is great enough to raise the rear wheel without locking the front ABS will not kick in. So not only will ABS save you from road hazards and panic braking but if you are really that good you can still pull off extreme maneuvers. The only reason I could ever see for turning off ABS is because you will be intentionally locking your rear wheel. I am just not at that level of skill yet and if people are honest with themselves very few are. The other half of this is related to traction control. I wish my current bike had a lean angle sensitive system, but my heart does what it wants. However, trust me, you do not want to highside, even in a controlled environment. On a cold day in December 2020 while riding my 05 ZX6R (which was equipped with neither system) I overestimated the heat of my tires, was overcome by a desire to catch up to my friends who were let out 30 seconds ahead of me on the track and didnt use good technique in reducing lean angle while adding throttle (which was a habit uncovered ruthlessly by the conditions). What this resulted in was a highside at an estimated speed of about 80mph. Thankfully I had bought a new helmet literally the week before because after flipping over the front of the bike I hit the back of my head on the track hard enough to rip the venting on the helmet. From there I proceeded to tumble, thinking to myself "when will this end?" and that it is probably good to be wondering that. When I finally came to a stop in the middle of the longest straight I got up and tried to walk off the track but realized I could not actually support my weight so I crawled. I noticed that my visor was still left in the middle of the tarmac the buttons on either side having been ground off my helmet. Thankfully nobody hit it. I had the good fortune not to suffer a concussion or break my spine but it was not good to be me during a 4 day hospital stay. After being wheeled through the double doors while strapped to a gourney straight to a room with intensely bright overhead lights and several doctors examining me I can understand why people might think they've been abducted by aliens if they've suffered a head injury. I severely broke my right hand and have titanium in that now. I also have spiderweb fractures in my cuboid/navicular which are blocky bones in the ankle/heel region. Ended up taking a 3 year break from riding but I am glad to be back. For anybody that made it to the end of this comment please trust what skyoom is saying here. You do not want what I described for yourself. Be humble and enjoy riding but dont push your luck.

for me, ABS and traction control/anti wheelie is a must, and i have it on my new bike thank goodness. I don't like the feeling of not being in control and neither do i want to pull a wheelie, especially since i accidentally did one and came off my 125 backwards when i had to change down into 1st up a long 1:3 hill to stop stalling and it spat me off. IMHO you can have plenty of fun on a bike without inviting unwanted danger in. i appreciate the content and comments, thanks & stay safe. GL

Man i really love all this and i`m glad i got my new bike, again, with ABS and TC.

Very informative. I've always been curious about the traction control. I was going to get a Ninja without ABS to save money but ended up saving even more money by getting a used bike with ABS instead.

I don't even ride a bike and I enjoy watching your videos. If I ever decide to start riding, the knowledge you share will definitely help 👍

As someone just getting into motorcycling I wanted to say your videos are really helpful. Just helpful information told in a grounded, easy to understand way.

Good advice. I bought an older bike after not riding for 10 years and not being aware of the electronics. A week later I bought a 2024 bike with all the electronic safety features (and an airbag with compatible jacket). You are so right, it only needs to work once. I high sided my Street Triple R due to a poor input on a bad surface (fortunately at low speed), the new bike would have stopped it from happening. The new stuff is worth it! A pro rider in controlled environments could probably handle these machines but mere mortals like myself can use all the help we can get! I am going to practice heavy straight line breaking like I used to do on my old 250, which had no ABS.

I've long maintained that for your average rider, if you see that traction control light on when you're riding, it's probably paid for itself. Particularly on a high powered bike, it's easy to make a mistake. Even if you're not doing anything silly, an unnoticed patch of gravel and having it has saved a crash at speed. That's worth it. Same with ABS. Sure, you can practice all you want, get your braking down to perfection *in a closed course setting*. Because it's constant. There are no (well very few) surprises on the track. You've practiced your threshold braking on smooth pavement with hot tires on clean roads. What happens on the street? You need to emergency brake suddenly, but your tires aren't hot. The road is cold. There's oil or gravel or leaves. You can't predict the situation. And ABS will save your ass if *while you are in an unknown, unpredictable, panicked situation* you do not perform perfectly.

you are just pumping out those great videos with great tips and info. keep them coming, your videos are fun and interesting to watch

One thing to consider, re: track riding, as well: MotoGP and many Superbike series use traction control, and those are the best riders in the world.

Luckily the "you suck" argument doesn't work on me since i'm shopping for my first bike so i have zero riding experience and i know i suck 😂 having had these two systems in my car for years, I know their usefulness and they're certainly high on my priority list.

I got the ABS Ninja 500 recently. Its my first bike. I figure it can only help the bike be more forgiving for inexperience. Its certainly no replacement for sensible riding and committing to safety, but it helps supplement that mindset. Still, anything could happen. Ride safe everyone.

Got my first bigger bike today (ZX4-RR)and loved the explanation on the features. Thanks!

Keep it up. I don’t even ride anymore, still Subbed. I enjoy all your vids.

Thanks for being a great instructor, I surely appreciate your style of teaching 👍!! Thank you and stay safe.

Definitely will be looking for an abs/traction control zx4rr. Thank You sir for your GREAT videos!!! Subbed.

Wouldn't buy a Motorcycle without ABS/TC, It's now Mandatory here in Euro Land on new Machines has been for some time.

the Mt 07 have brutal abs on back brake, and duke 790 have brutal front abs. and i would never buy a MC without Abs and TC, if you just drive on a little patch of grass you can fell the TC, kicking in really easy,

Hey I'm new to your channel and riding, just picked up a bike last weekend and your videos and the way you explain things make a lot of sense and are really helpful, thank you for your insight

These are golden, i dont own a bike but in future ill do, and the stuff you talk about interests me so this aknowledge will come in handy forsure. Thanks for making these videos brother💪

I ride a 790 duke and im thankful for all the user aids. I’ve accidentally used them all. It only takes once.

would love to see some aerial footage of this ride. its super funny to think about what people watching from the outside would think haha

(Cue Ryan F9 mode. "You're wrong about ABS!") Regardless, ABS is a good thing in my opinion, and was surprised when it kicked in. I have a 22 GSXS1000GT+, it may be a bit less aggressive then on the GSXR. However, the GT does NOT have the multiaxis IMU, so TC is bog standard without TC leaning over, but the new GX does. Go figure, wish it was able to be installed on my GT. The GSXS also only has 5 settings for TC, so it's less granular, and I really could have used it hitting a patch of gravel making a right turn, but ended up in dirt bike mode and stomping out of the slide.

Sorry, this is something I feel strongly about, so I get commenty :) A big thing you missed. Let's say you're a responsible rider who wants to practice his threshold braking and manual traction control. Braking: with ABS, you can practice with safety. Go too hard? Grab the front too quick? ABS saves your ass. You feel abs kick in and you know the limit. Without ABS, you're always afraid that you'll lock the front, not react quick enough and lowside, and that prevents your ability to practice effectively. Traction control: again, you can push the bike till you see the TCS light get mad. Now you know where the limits of traction are for your current circumstances, and you're still on two wheels. How comfortable are you doing that without TCS, are you actually going to get right to the edge of traction? How will you even know where the edge is until you go too far and lose traction, and if so, do you go down in the process? These aids allow you to practice the rider skills you need so much more effectively and safely.

Thank you Señor Skyoom

I wish the electronics would work on black ice, or diesel on the road.... great video and demonstration, Kudos !

Osmo Action 4. Since dumping GoPro and switching, zero camera issues. ETA - forgot to mention, excellent vid and explanations! Thanks for this.

I could have saved a lot of money by getting a non abs bike, but I don't regret it.

I started riding during the era when rider aids were getting introduced across the industry. The early components were questionable due to how intrusive and or janky they were. My 13' CBR1000RR I bought new at the time had a faulty abs system and it was an issue that many other CBR's had. Also for track riding, when braking, it is an issue for a lot of people that the abs was not good for late braking/trail braking due to the nature of the operation that hinders braking performance in these situations. On the road it's not really a big deal so most people that don't do trackdays will be fine. And I've heard riders aids have been improved over the years... My advice for anyone looking at getting a bike with rider aids is to research if the bike you are interested in has had issues regarding the rider aids. Type in "R1 ABS issues" or "CBR ABS issues" or "zx10r TC issues" Last thing you want is a bike that has shit that may get you in more trouble than the same model without the aids that doesn't have those issues. Rider aids can be beneficial, but unfortunately there's some janky systems so do your research.

I find it amusing manufacturers make motorcycles that so far exceed the majority of riders abilities and put systems on them to compensate so they don’t kill their customers. Rider aids can contribute to lazy unskilled riders that I believe are more dangerous, as they think these systems will save them. That said, ABS and TC can be a useful tool to develop skill-others have noted purposeful practice to find the limits. For a skilled responsible rider, it adds a margin of safety when the unexpected event that exceeds their abilities, inattentive drivers, road hazards etc. K1200GT has ABS but no TC. I take some pride in that the ABS has never activated during the course of my travels. My road strategies, bike/tire maintenance, riding within my abilities, and riding for conditions-year round rider in Colorado-are effective. Granted by the grace of God I have not been up against emergency situations that exceeded my abilities, a few that were close, but didn’t exceed. I am glad that I have ABS in reserve when that moment eventually comes. Knowing I don’t have TC I exercise caution when road conditions deteriorate, having TC in reserve would add peace of mind. Moto Guzzi has ABS and TC. Love the bike, but even in reduced traction conditions I would have to be completely zoned out or even work at it to break traction with it. I am amused that that little bit of torque and horsepower still has the buffer of TC. ABS in reserve is nice. Fully agree having the systems is prudent. Use them as tools to push skill development when it is safe to do so, on public roads ride like you don’t have them and count your blessings when they save you from someone else’s stupidity.

Fantastic content!

This was a really good demonstration on how these systems work.

I am glad you have no injuries, respect bro!

This dude just keeps putting out good videos

It only takes once! Exactly. Im a pretty new rider, I ride pretty well, very safe, follow the laws, ride a huge vstrom 800 de, decided to try and blast around traffic ONCE, and of course a douche dodge challenger decided to make a last 2nd turn into a parking lot, cut me off nasty at near full throttle, and my abs definitely helped me stay on 2 wheels after I grabbed a fist full of brakes, I came probably about an inch from touching his bumper.

Subscribed, my kind of bike channel, great video 👍🙏 Nice to see a decent rider!!

Great video as always. I'm enjoying everything you put out since its a lot of topics that most other motorcycle youtubers don't talk about. Side note: Insta360 needs to take this opportunity to sponsor you lmao

My V strom has kept me from dropping it at least ten times set to one on traction control !

By far the best bike channel I’ve come across to date. Realistic, not romanticized and good tips. Good breath of fresh air to see some more “grounded” content

thanks for the videos man

Traction control absolutely always get it, ABS has almost killed me several times ( it turned on early in corners or it made me blow brake markers). For street abs is ok, faster pace/track abs is absolutely not the move imho

Hi there thank you for your teaching! Can you make a video on leaning angle .. how to tell we’re is the limit .. what to pay attention when leaning in relation to front brake, throttle and suspension thank you.. good stuff

For me, abs and TCS are a hard must have, and the better the system works, the better. I've got riding buddies who mock me about that. But those same buddies put their bikes away when it rains. When it's cold. I'll ride, in Canada, year round, down to -25C. I'll ride when there's sand and gravel and ice on the road. And a big part of that is I don't have to do it 100% on the back of my own skill. I used to have to, before these systems where widely available and as good as they are now, but it's SO MUCH BETTER now they're much more reliable. They don't remove caution and skill - you're always better off not needing them! But if you do need them? As you said, it only takes once. I just find it amusing when people will mock you for buying a bike with TCS and abs (though these days it's not even an option most of the time) but then say they won't ride in reduced traction conditions. I mean. Really. That's the whole point. Even in a sunny day in summer, there could be gravel on the road. An oily patch. Something spilt or leaked from a truck. On the street, you never know. These systems don't replace rider skill, but they cover you for times you may not be perfect, or cannot properly predict the exact conditions from one millisecond to the next.

Awesome content ^^

I love fish tailing my tnt135 on stoplights

@13:21 preach brother preach

I remember buying a new r1 in 2008, mapping it, full race exhaust, no traction control whatsoever. Still alive. We used not to be pussies back then. Thus said I am happy my sdr 1290 has tc now ;)

I'm surprised gopro still pretty much has a monopoly. We need a contender bad.

Btw it so funny how enabled tc on my 1290 sdr cuts power in 1st gear so much as if you blip the throttle it will slip rear before even going to wheelie ;) second gear no problem, goes vertical immediately even with mtc on ;) KTM and Bosch made mtc and ABS so good even on 1st gen 1290 you don’t feel it, ABS let’s me make a stoppie easily on a good pavement and warm tires, no idea why people want to disable it on track, mtc lets you power wheelie, suggesting maximum traction is used, works amazing, will keep it all on track as well

each to their own i like raw everything

I’ve been riding with mine off lately. Maybe I should turn it back on.

could barely hear your words you were saying with those biceps talking in the intro bro. another great vid. Wish I had abs lol. I've fishtail slid within a foot of a turning car that failed to use their blinker..pulled the clutch, got caught in nomans' land and braced for impact lol

i love your videos and find your content ideas excellent. HOWEVER, i think you should definitely practice your talk/script before hand and focus more on repeating yourself less and not rambling continiously. All of your videos could be

you should try dji action 4, less problematic than gopro

Great video and i agree 💯 with all you said, but i have a question that I keep asking myself, I see the abs and traction controls as live savers when people do something wrong, like too much acceleration in a corner with poor traction, for me if the DTC or ABS are getting triggered is because the driver is going far from what the bike can take at that moment, so why the motorcycles allow you to tune the levels? Why would you want to slide the wheel if it's more dangerous than when traction is fully engaged? I honestly dont understand why the dtc has levels and it's not simply on-off switch, i understand this for the track but on street? Thanks for your videos a love your perspective

The best way is to learn on old crap bikes at a really young asge, and become a better rider. I'm still not sold on any of this technology. Will probably be useful though, no doubt.

hell yeah🤘

i've tried a lot of systems and i dont think ducati are particularly good, aprilia is a good, BMW is very safe if a bit conservative, but the crown imo goes to the KTM, it so consistently allows miniscule slides but no more, it's extremely good at trailing the edge of maximum possible acceleration and traction, especially considering the fact it's mounted to a 140Nm V-twin...This is specifically referencing the track mode with the 9 levels of TC, the normal riding modes are basically made for idiots and the bike is uncrashable. Re camera: Get a DJI Action 4 lol, no heat problems and better than the go pro in almost every way haha

Beautiful road too.

My motorcycle didn't had any of those things and when i panicked braked on wet surface and tryed to turn then i slid out and had to rebuild a bike

I only have ABS and sometimes even that is too much

Please talk about tires

Would anyone happen to know which style of Traction Control is on the Honda Rebel CMX1100? Is it proactive or reactive? Honda calls it Torque Control in the manual and it seems to be killing power when the rear wheel is slipping for any reason, so I guess it's reactive?

get a dji action 4, they never overheat, are better than the latest gopro hero's in specs and QoL features

I have a current gen Z900 and the rear brake ABS is pretty similar to yours I think, it seems way too aggressive, I can engine brake harder than I can press the rear. Haven't tested the front ABS yet but maybe I should just so I know what to expect, but I have stopped pretty quick without it kicking in so it doesn't seem to overstep its welcome. Traction control doesn't have lean angle detection, I don't believe, but it doesn't seem too intrusive, on the lowest setting it helps keep you from getting in trouble giving it throttle but doesn't feel like it's limiting me much. I do wish it had that lean angle sensor though, it's a pretty jerky throttle on this bike and some chill in the corners would be greatly appreciated..

can you do a video on braking while riding? like slowing down from some decent speed and stuff? i watched the video about braking to a stop but was more wondering about while at speed and using front brake .

I have ABS and don't like it. My TC is in my forearm where it's always been but I only have maybe 70hp on the ground. If I had twice that much, yeah, I'd want some help with it.

and another video idea about how to avoid losing traction at the back wheel.. what’s the reasoning for it and if something can be done if it happened I have 696 monster with no traction control and no abs and I would like to hear what is your take on it Thanks again

I'm curious, how do these systems react to a rider downshifting too quickly to the point the rear locks up a bit? I did that a few times when i first started lol

Lean angle traction control would have prevented my most popular video on KZfaq.

Hello skyoom culd you do a video about trail braking?

Dang its too bad the gsxr600 or 750 doesn't have an IMU.

Do you recommend practicing ABS on dirt roads or only on paved roads?

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Go pro 10 has failed me so much... went through 4 warranty cameras

The only ones complaining about safety assists are Harley riders.

Heheh my 2003 Fireblade dont have abs or traction control, but i would not go against having abs or some traction control. Well it feels exciting to drive without them also, my earlier bikes also were older so i havent driven a motorcycle with these "nanny systems" would be interesting to try. I havent had problems while driving i usually dont try anything grazy.

Have any thoughts on S1K DTC?

I got myself a DJI. Return that shit and get something worth your money.

How does the abs effect wheelies does it lock out the back brake at all

Tc 1 & 2 are nice, off is nicer.

Your fuel economy must be really bad sitting in 1st 😂

Ive said it before on reddit and got a t.o.s. violation for hate speech that anyone riding a non abs bike on the road in 2023 (at the time) deserves what they get when they crash. The post was about abs and in my view there is no reason to not have it on every bike. I would never own a bike that doesnt have it, period. I like the way my body functions and want to keep it that way.

Suzuki and Nissan have the same crap TCS Hits like a hammer on pro Active, respondent is manageable but I still dislike it. My L5 750 has none of those things.

babe wake up

Let me tell you. I've almost crashed twice due to the abs. I had enough time and space to brake safely, abs kicked in and I in one occasion ended up with the front of the bike in a bush. I wasn't speeding or anything. That said, it was a Yamaha (fukc Yamaha) which has a stupidly intrusive abs. Just by you thinking about pressing the rear brake pedal, it starts immediately releasing pressure. Regarding TC... I've only once felt that shite on an AT which I deliberately tried to slide the rear. It scared the shite out of me when instead of sliding, the whole bike started shaking. On track, I don't know because I've never felt TC kicking in. Yes I'm a pussy, no need to tell me.

Los Angeles is a beautiful city.

TC might be cool I've never experienced it. I don't understand abs when it's so easy to brake up to the point where you will flip over the bars if you brake any more.

I wouldn't make anyone feel bad for wanting the rider aids, but personally I enjoy knowing that the only thing protecting me is my own skill. Same reason I love a manual transmission. I appreciate the freedom. I don't want a nanny, I want to ride the blades edge by nothing but the seat of my pants. Ps. When you tell people to short GoPro make sure you insist it's not financial advice.

ABS is mandatory on 125cc bikes and up in EU since 2016. Below 125cc they must have combined brakes so I guess everyone is a pussy in Europe, me included 😂

I really dislike ABS, traction control and most of the modern riding aids. They make an average rider think he or she is better than what they really are and detracts from learning riding skills. I would go as far to say that they give a false sense of security and actually cause accidents. Controversial I know. In my early days it was about riding in fields and then progressing to motocross, falling off and learning how to use your body weight, feet etc to keep yourself upright.