The big problem is EPA regulations, they keep sensible vehicles out of the market. It is absolutely insane. Personally I would love to see something similar to the first generation Tacoma, a small pickup with a 4-banger and a manual transmission. Nice and simple.

I'm gonna pour myself a stout right about now.

Kirk, Moving Tacoma production to Mexico was the saddest day Toyota pickup fans will ever have to endure. 🤨 The loss of the 'right-sized' Toyota T100 was the second worst. In the case of Hino's T100, the Chicken Tax just made it finger lickin' good. 😉

They need to add a small pickup to their lineup. It would make huge numbers in major cities. At the end of the day, I’d love a pickup for its utility, but in Los Angeles there is literally not enough room for most of these huge new pickups. Parking alone is a massive reason why I haven’t gotten one. But if a small pickup was an option, I’d buy one immediately.

OMG, at 0:31, that small silver Toyota pick-up was the exact truck I owned. I remember paying $8600 for it brand new from Toyota of Orange in California. It was the base, stripped out model, no hubcaps, no door mats, and not even a rear bumper. All it had was an AM/FM radio. I had to pay extra for the air conditioning, which was a lifesaver in the summer. The seats were vinyl and when I saved enough money I bought Toyota's velour bench covers and they were amazing. I bought floor mats and I paid $300 to buy a rear bumper. My last big purchase was I paid $600 for an aftermarket stereo. It was awesome driving down an empty fwy at 2am, windows rolled down, blasting Mozart's Requiem. Unfortunately, I sold the car two years later when I moved to NYC. I think I got $6,000 for it. What I loved about the pick-up is that it was really cheap, even for its time. To put things in perspective, Honda CRX's were selling for around $14,000. Civics were selling for not much less. I never had a care in the world driving that little pick-up. Oil and service charges twice a year was something like $60. Why can't we bring back simplicity again? Get rid of all this computer crap! If you must have an infotainment screen, use a magnetic smart phone mount. Make cars analog again. Kirk, you are Superman! Just Do It! How do you improve a spoon?

After just finishing a river cruise covering, Germany, France, Netherlands and Switzerland. Our country has to really do a lot of re-thinking. I didn't see any "large" SUV's or trucks. There were tons of smaller very economical vehicles and everyone seemed to get around just fine. I am guilty as I want the luxury of a larger vehicle because that is what I grew up with. However, in my younger days I had a small SR5 pickup and it was a blast and got great mileage, very dependable too. However, as I wanted to tow larger items and haul larger items I eventually gave into a full size pickup. The part I keep struggling with is that at one point I had a Ford short bed with an inline 300 cu in 6 cyl, got anywhere from 17-22+ mpg. put 130,000+ trouble free miles on it. Flash forward to today and we don't get a heck of a lot better mpg's. Granted cleaner boring and more power & torque but at a tremendous increase in price and reliability. It doesn't matter what we want, it boils down to the dollar and profit and meeting safety and emissions standards to the dealers and manufacturers. It is beyond me how I survived all those years without ABS brakes, air bags, lane assist, a review camera, power windows, sunroofs, power adjustable mirrors, adaptive cruise control, GPS, etc, etc, etc.............. somehow millions of us did. :) PS: If you got this far reading this, you are doing a great job! Seriously, really enjoy your channel. Even my wife watches occasionally.

Toyota is smart and probably being cautious incase the recession worsens.

Tiny Toyota pickup single cab. Instantly would buy it. 6 speed, good sized work bed. Charge 26k for basic version and $32k for loaded. Naturally aspirated engine with dual port and DI injection, 2.0 liter or 2.5 tuned for efficiency and torque

I continue to drive the 1997 Tacoma that I bought new. It's now my second vehicle, but it comes in handy a couple times a month. About once a month, someone knocks on my front door or leaves me a note with an offer to buy my truck, and that tells me demand for a small truck exists. The new Tacoma is huge, and the Ford Maverick is interesting but even it's a bit too big. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a new Toyota small truck if it were truly small.

Just had my 91 toy 4x4 stolen. My 1st truck purchased at 19. Had it 32 years and 151k miles. 😢 I cried a river

Toyota really needs to make a sub $25k pickup truck.

All those old gen Hilux's in the pictures are my favorite 👌

I looked at a Maverick and a Tacoma. I am 6'4" and I absolutely can not fit in either. Forced to buy a full size truck if I want a truck, which I do. So I did. Tundra 2024.

I hope the small pickup will be made in Japan and not mexico

I think the Toyota guy was throwing everyone off. Just watch-it will probably be announced at the dealers meeting. LOL

I used to drive an old dodge dakota with a bench front seat and manual trans. I really loved that truck.

I had a Toyota HiLux back in the 70’s. Man I wish I had kept it.

I swore I would never buy a new vehicle but if Toyota made a regular cab with very minimal electric options, I want to be the first on the list

5:36 that's my fav the Xtracab Long Bed from the mid-80s. Also at 2:34 Thanks for the slide show.

had one of those little guys in the 80's best truck ever. only had to replace the water pump at 140k km's. easy and cheap fix back then.

I owned an 78, 83, 84 and 89 Toyota Hilux. My 84 and was an Extra cab, 6’ bed. The rest were Regular cabs with the 6’ bed. Our current pickup is a 11 Ranger super cab with a 6’ bed. We use our pickup mainly for work around our property, but if we can get a Stout Extra cab AWD Hybrid, we’ll sell both our Ranger and my wife’s Outback. She can have my Forester Touring, (currently with only 13K miles). Our 11 Ranger has only 36K miles.

Im glad that USA gets the Tacoma, on the catch side the HiLux gets the better engine though. There was a video that explains about why the growth in size and it has to do with wheelbase and meeting EPA standards, it was quite an eye opener for the reasoning for the Tacoma 1st-3rd gen growth.

I want old school long bed Toyota pickup. Much easier to load and have good capacity. I don't need a 3 ft bed for name sake.

Before the Maverick the Ridgeline was around and it is awesome.

Still have my reliable 2006 (MT) Frontier; not dropping $45K to $55K on a new midsize pickup. Would consider a compact $25K to $30K pickup eventually though...

I had a 1980 longbed 5 speed manual p/u and loved that truck wish I never got rid of it. If they made a newer version of that I would buy it in an instant

It’s the chicken tax! Ripping of the consumer one federal tax at a time!

People want affordable trucks. When the compact truck died last time they got too expensive in comparison to the full-size truck. The Santa Cruz is expensive so is the Honda Ridgeline. Ford comes out with the Maverick at a decent price boom! Back in 1991 I could have bought a Nissan hardbody for $8000. Bare bones truck. Manufacturers abandoned low cost trucks because of their bottom line. 40k for a new truck they can keep them.

If the Toyota Compact Cruiser is coming with body-on-frame construction and a gas engine, is it not more likely to be produced on that production line and platform? Then the problem becomes one of where they will make this. I would assume the Compact Cruiser will be made in Japan--but it will have to be built in North America to avoid the chicken tax.

The Hilux is currently sold worldwide into 190 countries with production in 6 Countries in Single and Double Cab versions and as of August 2022 they have sold over 560,00 units every year with the largest market being in Asia with 175,000 units per annum followed by 124,000 units sold in South America with the rest sold in the middle east and Australia and New Zealand and Europe in 5 different Hilux Models and for Toyota the Worldwide Hilux Version has descent sales globally , so not everything in the Toyota Truck Division is USA Centric

This is the opposite of what the Toyota salesman I spoke to told me. He says that, not only is the Stout coming, but that the dealers have already been shown it. Take that for what you will ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Hi Kirk, I hope TOYOTA makes a small truck to compete with the Ford maverick❤

That's a bummer. My dad has a 2017 Tundra SR5 and my mom calls it an apartment on wheels. There's always the used 1st gen Tundra I guess for me.

My neighbor has a mint condition Toyota pick parked in his drive way. But gardeners love these old pick up. There beds are loaded with all their gear plus there are three of them in the cab. They sound like they must have over 500k miles on the odometer. Maybe running on three or two cylinders.

Just got a 23 tacoma access cab Trf off road it is smaller then double cans and gives more of a truck feel then the double cabs but yeah a small pickup single cab would be insane I'd totally want one

Am 44yrs,& I remember when I was young the Stout pick up was larger than the Hilux of that time,& now to have it(Stout) smaller than a Hilux doesn't make sense.

I imagine in a couple of decades, even the maverick will become too big lmao

they might still do it, they said they had no plans on giving the supra a manual but turns out the second they started getting so many requests for it they immediately started creating it.

The Suzuki Jimmy has already a 5 door version and a propose single cab pick up version is brewing. Its possible that the Mini Cruizer and Stotz pick up, could be base on the Suzuki Jimmy .model.

The Wolf Electric Truck looks cool. Wish Toyota did something like that minus the electric part.

Toyota and other automakers should definitely consider producing more of what they are currently selling to address demand and mitigate excessive mark-ups rather than launching new models without any units to sell.

All Toyota has to do is get rid of the enclosed cargo area behind the back seat of a RAV4 or Corolla Cross and extend it a few inches and simply convert it into a bed. Boom you have the all new Toyota Stout. You’re welcome

I bought a 1990 Toyota Hilux 4x4 33 years ago and I just gave it to my son and it's still running. Yes I would love to have a Toyota Truck like the Hilux again. I have never owned a Ford and want to keep it that way. The pictures I have seen of the Stout looks nice. Bring it and I will buy it.

The thing you guys don’t know about Toyota is they don’t deviate from their heritage. They can make a truck but they are never going to do it a unibody it will surely be body on frame. And being body on frame means it’s going to be more expensive than the maverick, that means they are going to be on the losing end.

If Toyota doesn’t release a small pickup, maybe Nissan will. They are supposed to show something at the NAAS bringing back the old Hardbody Nissan trucks. We shall see what they reveal this week to the public.

How about the Honda Ridgeline? Has it benefited from the increased interest in small pickup trucks? Any rumors re a new design based on the latest Pilot?

The market is there! I hear quite a few people looking for a truck but the ones on market are either too big or just made excessively larger just to meet or pass the EPA regulations which of course are ridiculous. If the smaller trucks came back I forsure would've bought one instead of the RAV I know the cross is there but it was too late. I do feel the pricing would've been just as insane if not worse just because it is a "truck". My area has high markups for anything at a dealer even used which seems crazy I had to go quite far just to find a decent price. Edit: I seen someone find some loophole (i guess it would be considered) it would have to be electric or some kind of hybrid so who knows what'll happen.

My parents had a 72 Toyota truck long bed, 4 cylinder and manual transmission. You could load it up with sheetrock or wood paneling with no problem.

How sad is this news? Very sad! I was getting ready for a small Toyota pickup to come out soon & buy one, but if they don't want my business then I will have to look elsewhere. I used to own a 1986 Toyota pickup & currently own a 2003 Tacoma Extra Cab. I like the looks of the Maverick but don't want to wait forever to order one. Also, I don't like the looks of the Hyundai Santa Cruz(I don't care for trucks that looks like they just chopped the back off an suv). Any truth to Subaru maybe bringing back a small truck?. Thanks for always giving us the inside scoop Kirk!

Ever since Ford introduced a unibody pick-up truck, the Maverick, into the market... they've essentially had it to themselves..." Ridgeline - *cough* "say what?"

Thinking with inflation not seeming to end and if a new compact Toyota Pickup truck was priced $10,000 less than a mid-size truck, it would definitely steal sales from the Tacoma. But, on the other hand, it seems Toyota will 'miss the boat' if they don't produce one with that market so hot right now.

$50k+ for two rails and a bed? NO THANKS!!!

Do you have any news on when pricing for LEXUS TX will be announced? Dealers are already getting allocations but no prices

I have three pick up trucks. A 3500, a 1500, and the Ford maverick hybrid. I get between 40 to 50 miles per gallon with my maverick. Guess which one we’re driving all the time now!

like the RN 22 @8:27, 8:34 press photo the gear shifter is not in park 8:41 SR5

Kirk, have you talked to the crew at Subaru??? Baja/Brat 🤷🏽‍♂️

The left side of the video is just eyegasm 😍

Since we got rid of sedans and their segments, I don’t see why they haven’t converted that line up to trucks/SUVs, Corolla? Corolla cross, Camry? Rav4, Avalon? Crown. Point is we need a truck line up that consists of a small medium and large truck. That being the new Stout, the Tacoma and the Tundra. Would actually have a good truck line up to compete with Ford and GM

I have been waiting a LONG time for a smaller Toyota PU Truck with an actual LOOOONG functional bed in the back. PLEASE Toyota!!!!

I was looking forward to a new small Toyota Pickup. Thanks for the "they have looked at nothing yet" let down. Any chance for a small sporty car similar to the earliest Celica's? The first few years they were great cars. I had a '71 and never had any problems with it. It was a work car, it ran two rallies per week and drove cross country three times. Unfortunately it suffered a quick death when a babysitter watching our children stuffed into a light pole at a high speed and destroyed the front end and the drive train.

Well, I believe it’s hard for Toyota to bring out a new pickup model now considering that they’re moving towards electrification. Perhaps when they’ve already solved their electrification problems, like when they already have the best batteries, best motors, best e-axles, I believe that’s the time they can bring out new models and try to compete.

At the dealer meeting they unveiled this as a BEV.

I'm so bummed . . But we can dream fondly on the gem of a Stout truck from Ryan Tuerk, I'm sure you'd enjoy it Kirk.

When i park my 94' Toyota 4wd xtra cab pickup next to a maverick my truck is still smaller width and cab wise. It's probably more equivalent to a tacoma from early 2000s. The maverick is definitely cheaper body and durability being based on unibody crossover vehicle. Who knows Toyotas decision fun to speculate but id rather have a smaller body on frame truck would be my preference.

If I'm remembering it correctly, the hybrid system in the Maverick is actually made by Toyota

We have a Maverick turbo. Getting 29.2 mpg now. Get around 23 in city driving normal not trying .. has been great at random jobs and no issues. 2022 with 11k miles. We are a Toyota Lexus family but they have nothing to compare so we bought the Ford

I had better hold onto my 1999 V6 Extra Cab 4x4 Tacoma. 222,800 and going strong.

Replace the back end of a Highlander Hybrid with a bed, make the sheet metal resemble a Tacoma enough that it looks like a truck and sell every one that rolled off the assembly line.

I want a small pickup, rear wheel drive, 4 or 6 cylinder, available straight and auto trans. I do not want a mutation to compete with the Ford Maverick. When I say small, I mean like a 1980 Chevy Luv pickup small. Like a 90's 2 wheel drive Tacoma. The reason they quit making those pickups was pure greed.

Just give me a new Tacoma - with a naturally aspirated engine and a hybrid set-up tuned for MPGs rather than maximum power.

Probably due to the fact that most of the manufacturers including Toyota are moving more towards larger higher priced vehicles that come with higher profit margins.

We need an Extra Cab with a 6’ bed, AWD Hybrid Stout.

little single cab truck, a simple N/A 2.5l with 200hp some chunky 235/70/17s and some decent height maybe a inch or two lower than tacoma. simple 6 or 8 speed automatic.

Me: gripping my phone waiting for you to mention great grandma a.k.a the 4runner... We have lost hope 😅

Maybe at the dealer meeting someone brings up the ridiculous markups that dealers are taking on product. So many people talking about the $5-$10 markups on the GH and R4 Prime

I guess their focus will be on that new compact SUV you showed us. Maybe they think a new mini truck will cut into taco and tundra sales

Toyota loves 'missing'. They MISSED big with the FJ cruiser by not offering a removable top.

Honda is thinking how did the Pilot get picked in but people love the Maverick.

Kind of crazy how well the Maverick has done and all the demand for a small truck that's existed for a long time now and Toyota didn't immediately jump on board. Going to be way too late to capitalize on it if they ever get around to it.

Here's a novel idea, maybe Toyota should focus on actually producing enough current model trucks to meet the current demand instead of bringing another "flavor of the week" to market. My local dealers still have no inventory of current trucks, everything is allocations that you have to purchase sight unseen, with no ability to test drive.

No, corporate is right, when small comes out consumers want bigger this and that. Even tacoma wants to get taller and bigger. Plus what can you carry in a smaller bed? Even the short bed tacomas are stupid.

Finally. Someone seeing through the smoke and mirrors. Toyota ain't doing squat with the Stout. And all the vids on KZfaq talking about it is just for views and hype. I'm placing bets that nissan and Subaru bring a small pickup truck before the Stout even enters production.

If they want my 2001 Toyota Tacoma sr5 it’s in mint condition. It’s single cab classic and 4x4. I’d trade the dealer for a brand new trd pro 2023 Tacoma in magnetic gray!

Can't wait for the Tokyo show!!

Hard for me to consider a Santa Cruz for $45k. Still don’t think the stout will end up here. Disappointed that the remodel of the 4 Runner was put on the back burner for the Land Cruiser.

It would be cool if they took a page out of the RAM playbook and offer the 2023 Tacoma as a 2024 “Classic” alongside the new 2024 Tacoma for a year or two to help pad sales and please the purists while they figure out what they’re going to do with the Stout. All they need to do is make a RAV4 pickup. Not that difficult.

Such a missed opportunity…

I have a 90 rwd pickup w/22re. ❤. Love it. But you can't really build a vehicle quite like that anymore. And the profit for those small vehicles is low.

The Stout should be a double cab with a 6 ft bed like Toyota does.

i want more sedan options and smaller vehicles. lost the honda fit and toyota yaris. I like cheap/affordable/reliable vehicles. Currently riding my Corolla out, and the only other options are really another Corolla, and they're soooo expensive still new. $30k new corolla with good trim level.

we got the Probox if thats whats your looking for

25k views only 1K likes....you guys BETTER LIKE THIS VIDEO!!!!! or else, I will force you to only be allowed to drive Dodge trucks out of warranty (no classics, only stuff made in the last 10 years).

I think Toyota might consider moving a little faster especially If this week Nissan reveals their own compact pickup truck I guess we’ll see. I think Nissan said Sept 14th they’re going to reveal something.

No your wrong 😂 I ve owned Tacomas and have a 23 I don’t at all want a pickup like a Maverick girly car.

Please, if not already in your plans, can you inquire about the fate of the Lexus LS when you visit Japan? I would be devastated to see it go

When are we going to see an updated toyota hilux ?

EPA regulations make it more profitable to make bigger pickups. That leads to higher gas consumption and it appears to be intentional.

I think Toyota needs to build a truck to compete with the Maverick. As far as losing sales with their other trucks, like the tundra, or the Tacoma not sure that would happen If a person needs to buy a truck to tow heavy loads, they would buy a tundra for medium loads a Tacoma for a vehicle for just fuel mileage and some bed capacity and very light towing, and a four-door people mover ,Why not a stout. I think that would make sense and would probably be a very desired truck. Look at Maverik they can’t sell them fast enough

If toyota does make a new stout, sadly itll be just like mavric/santa cruz itll be 4doors 3 1/2 or 4ft bed based off a compact suv and will be front wheel drive or awd. Not a chance toyota would give a single cab or extra cab compact with a frame and rwd. They want to sell to familys so a proper small truck isnt profitable in north america . But i wish they would

Toyota is in on this, they're just taking their time and going to do it right. They are looking at market cycles and intend on crushing this one.